Well just by checking out netcraft.com and seeing what Microsoft servers are running, several of them run BSD and Linux still; in fact if you do a search for *.microsoft.com, the first 10 or so are ALL Linux. This has been a running gag for the longest time. Hotmail servers used to ALL run on Linux with Apache. It wasn't until recently that they switched them over to 2003 and still quite a few of them remain on Linux. And on their higher load servers they are running Linux and BSD.
So if Windows isn't good enough for Microsofts high end servers, why should it be good for mine? They are setting a precident by saying that their product isn't good enough to handle their high load.
The questions isn't whether 3 people in a small town USE Linux, the questions is whether Linux could meet all THEIR needs. Why buy something when all they need is to surf the web and check their mail?
Hmmm... you must have seen this prior to the expansion. They have 8 tennis courts, 3 swimming pools, 4 basketball courts, 8 squash courts 7 racquetball courts, a free weight room, 2 fitness rooms, several studios for ballet, yoga, pilates, and many other things and even a small theatre.
Plus there are 4 hot tubs in each locker room, tanning beds, a salon, masseusses, a bistro, bar and restaurant. Then you hae to take into consideration the doctors offices and over 80 personal trainers. It's more like a 'health mall' than a gym.
Yes because their database went down they WOULD switch. The reason being is because the flaw was within the OS itself! Microsoft has special functionality built into ALL Windows OS'es that is turned on automatically that SQL Slammer monopolized upon. In one vnunet article, over 2000 servers had switched over to a different operating system the next day.
And yes, it is impossible for netcraft to see intranet servers but the stat gives us a good gauge of the technology sectors reaction to the news. So knowing the exact number is not that important for gauging the industries reaction to the event; the reaction can be obviously seen regardless.
Well lets look at a few stats shall we? In 2001 according to vnunet, code red and nimda knocked out over 150,000 websites running on over 80,000 servers running IIS. The next month (according to netcraft.com statistics) approx 380,000 machines switched to Apache. Granted the vast majority of these could have just decided to run Apache on windows though this is extremely unlikely.
In January of 2003, SQL Slammer took out over 30,000 machines running SQL (alot of them unknowingly thanks to Microsoft). Even Microsoft itself was taken offline due to the worm. Since then, Microsoft has lost 1% of it's server market to Apache. Again, everyone could be using Apache on Windows, though again, highly unlikely.
I actually think I lowballed my stats by saying that 30% switched and obviously from the statictics, one can easily assume a much higher number but it is hard to take into consideration which are 'switchers' and which are new servers.
Either way, the stats speak for themselves fairly well.
I work in an all Microsoft environment too... in fact we are across the street, 98% of our business depends on them and the VP are constantly in here (ran into Steve Ballmer in the halls). But I was able to prove and show that Apache, PHP and MySQL were better options for our website. Though they wouldn't let me run Linux or BSD, I'm still pleased I was able to make this much headway. It all has to do with showing the management how much they potentially stand to lose; use the sql slammer dilemna, use the sql insertion problem, use the platforms security risks or whatever but if you show them that it is in their best interests and can come up with a dollar number that they will save over 5 years, they will switch.
It's absolutely NO use to Microsoft to do that but when they are losing the server market because of it, you'd think they might learn a lesson.
Let's take for example SQL Slammer. 30,000 servers went down as a result and 35% of them made the switch. With that switch, all those techies had to rebuild all the day to day apps that the company used to make them compliant with the new platform. The companies learned a valuable lesson as did the techies... be cross platform whenever possible.
So now businesses and techies are increasingly demanding al business apps that they use on servers to be able to run in any environment that they switch to.
So yes, Microsoft can decide not to change with the times if they want... but as an example, only 25% of the web is run using IIS while nearly 70% runs Apache and that number is getting bigger every month.
So Microsoft and it's drones can continue on their self destructive path but people have seen the light and that light is cross platform compatibility.
Oh so he coded it in.NET and made sure ti worked on his Linux machine and then also ran it on his Windows machine? Highly unlikely since Microsoft themseleves stated that.NET doesn't run on Linux. Care to try for door number 2?
Hey relax. Microsoft uses the media to do it's bashing with severely scewed statistics, highly subjective microsoft funded reports and questionable data. We just do it here in a forum that supports the facts. Only a few are platform -centric and I think the vast majority of people here use a variety of platforms in their day to day roles.
This is just a resounding voice saying 'no thanks'
Well considering how much you post in support of Bill and his buddies, this does not come as a surprise that you would find anything anti-microsoft as anything but an insult. Tell you what, you convince Bill and his buddies to make.NET cross platform compliant and we may just convert. As is,.NET only works on windows with LIMITED support of BSD.
Totally. I found this out when a co-worker claimed that it worked for him and helped the day to speed buy while at the same time helping him to concentrate on the task at hand. I laughed at his suggestion then but now I see what he means. If you have alot of distractions and have a tough time concentrating and getting started, it can truly help.
This is one reason the tech sector doesn't do drug testing... because we'd ALL be out of work. Except the mormons of course but all they do is.NET so who cares.:)
May not be ADD. May be Bipolarity. I myself am Bipolar II and get stuck in my manic phase for months on end.
The only way to overcome? Discipline. Kick yourself in the head and just do it. Once you get started, it's hard to stop.
Also, an afternoon toke sometimes helps to focus your energies and totally zone. No I'm not advocating getting wasted... I'm saying a puff can relax you and help you to totally zone on your task once you get started. Before you know it, 5 hours have passed and you got 2 weeks of work done.
First the Gartner group claims that 80% of the Linux systems that will be run in Munich will have VMWARE and Windows running on them (without ANY support documentation to support that number) and NOW they are saying not to USE Linux?
Sounds to me like someone is on the Microsoft payroll if you ask me?
Um... regardless of your flame, this wasn't a discussion about communism... it was a metaphor. Being used strictly as a metaphor to illustrate a media outlet being used to laud the greatness of it's owners. Your kneejerk response was unwarranted and juvenile and illustrates your role as a tool to your emotions rather than your intellect.
And yes I have read the communist manifesto as part of a class assignment. Have you read the Principia Discordia?
Well how about representing the facts? They love to EXAGGERATE small holes in functionality which in most circumstances are not holes at all but just a different way of doing something which they had not thought of themselves.
They have been known to lie, exaggerate, misrepresent the facts, fund questionable research which states their product to be better when independent research states otherwise. This isn't so much a question of bashing your competitor as it is of using your own Microsoft controlled media to push it's own views...
This I equate with communist radio and communist TV stations telling you how great communism is.
There are tons of automated scanners out there but as with most automation you absolutely have to have a person there watching all the time to make sure that two pages aren't grabbed at the same time and other such problems... but it's still better than hand scanning.
As for the software, Textbridge is perhaps the best that I know of.
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Well just by checking out netcraft.com and seeing what Microsoft servers are running, several of them run BSD and Linux still; in fact if you do a search for *.microsoft.com, the first 10 or so are ALL Linux. This has been a running gag for the longest time. Hotmail servers used to ALL run on Linux with Apache. It wasn't until recently that they switched them over to 2003 and still quite a few of them remain on Linux. And on their higher load servers they are running Linux and BSD.
So if Windows isn't good enough for Microsofts high end servers, why should it be good for mine? They are setting a precident by saying that their product isn't good enough to handle their high load.
In other words:
'Please help us bankroll our lawsuit against you'.
The questions isn't whether 3 people in a small town USE Linux, the questions is whether Linux could meet all THEIR needs. Why buy something when all they need is to surf the web and check their mail?
Hmmm... you must have seen this prior to the expansion. They have 8 tennis courts, 3 swimming pools, 4 basketball courts, 8 squash courts 7 racquetball courts, a free weight room, 2 fitness rooms, several studios for ballet, yoga, pilates, and many other things and even a small theatre.
Plus there are 4 hot tubs in each locker room, tanning beds, a salon, masseusses, a bistro, bar and restaurant. Then you hae to take into consideration the doctors offices and over 80 personal trainers. It's more like a 'health mall' than a gym.
I use dilithium crystals when I can which have a shelf life of 10 years at full warp. Engage!
Excellent. Send me a link to the program if it exists. I'll test it out on MY Linux box! :)
A million bucks says it never shows and you have vaporware coming out your ass.
Yes because their database went down they WOULD switch. The reason being is because the flaw was within the OS itself! Microsoft has special functionality built into ALL Windows OS'es that is turned on automatically that SQL Slammer monopolized upon. In one vnunet article, over 2000 servers had switched over to a different operating system the next day.
And yes, it is impossible for netcraft to see intranet servers but the stat gives us a good gauge of the technology sectors reaction to the news. So knowing the exact number is not that important for gauging the industries reaction to the event; the reaction can be obviously seen regardless.
Well lets look at a few stats shall we? In 2001 according to vnunet, code red and nimda knocked out over 150,000 websites running on over 80,000 servers running IIS. The next month (according to netcraft.com statistics) approx 380,000 machines switched to Apache. Granted the vast majority of these could have just decided to run Apache on windows though this is extremely unlikely.
In January of 2003, SQL Slammer took out over 30,000 machines running SQL (alot of them unknowingly thanks to Microsoft). Even Microsoft itself was taken offline due to the worm. Since then, Microsoft has lost 1% of it's server market to Apache. Again, everyone could be using Apache on Windows, though again, highly unlikely.
I actually think I lowballed my stats by saying that 30% switched and obviously from the statictics, one can easily assume a much higher number but it is hard to take into consideration which are 'switchers' and which are new servers.
Either way, the stats speak for themselves fairly well.
I work in an all Microsoft environment too... in fact we are across the street, 98% of our business depends on them and the VP are constantly in here (ran into Steve Ballmer in the halls). But I was able to prove and show that Apache, PHP and MySQL were better options for our website. Though they wouldn't let me run Linux or BSD, I'm still pleased I was able to make this much headway. It all has to do with showing the management how much they potentially stand to lose; use the sql slammer dilemna, use the sql insertion problem, use the platforms security risks or whatever but if you show them that it is in their best interests and can come up with a dollar number that they will save over 5 years, they will switch.
It's absolutely NO use to Microsoft to do that but when they are losing the server market because of it, you'd think they might learn a lesson.
Let's take for example SQL Slammer. 30,000 servers went down as a result and 35% of them made the switch. With that switch, all those techies had to rebuild all the day to day apps that the company used to make them compliant with the new platform. The companies learned a valuable lesson as did the techies... be cross platform whenever possible.
So now businesses and techies are increasingly demanding al business apps that they use on servers to be able to run in any environment that they switch to.
So yes, Microsoft can decide not to change with the times if they want... but as an example, only 25% of the web is run using IIS while nearly 70% runs Apache and that number is getting bigger every month.
So Microsoft and it's drones can continue on their self destructive path but people have seen the light and that light is cross platform compatibility.
Oh so he coded it in .NET and made sure ti worked on his Linux machine and then also ran it on his Windows machine? Highly unlikely since Microsoft themseleves stated that .NET doesn't run on Linux. Care to try for door number 2?
This is just a resounding voice saying 'no thanks'
Well considering how much you post in support of Bill and his buddies, this does not come as a surprise that you would find anything anti-microsoft as anything but an insult. Tell you what, you convince Bill and his buddies to make .NET cross platform compliant and we may just convert. As is, .NET only works on windows with LIMITED support of BSD.
Why Microsoft people don't take this site serious you mean...heh. Maybe your brain isn't cross platform compliant? :)
Heh... yeah no sh1t! Tel you what Microsuck, when you build .NET to be cross platform, I'll use it. Until then J2EE is fine by me.
Totally. I found this out when a co-worker claimed that it worked for him and helped the day to speed buy while at the same time helping him to concentrate on the task at hand. I laughed at his suggestion then but now I see what he means. If you have alot of distractions and have a tough time concentrating and getting started, it can truly help.
.NET so who cares. :)
This is one reason the tech sector doesn't do drug testing... because we'd ALL be out of work. Except the mormons of course but all they do is
Well thats the diff between getting stoned and having a puff. A puff destresses and allows you to focus; too much and say goodbye to that focus.
May not be ADD. May be Bipolarity. I myself am Bipolar II and get stuck in my manic phase for months on end.
The only way to overcome? Discipline. Kick yourself in the head and just do it. Once you get started, it's hard to stop.
Also, an afternoon toke sometimes helps to focus your energies and totally zone. No I'm not advocating getting wasted... I'm saying a puff can relax you and help you to totally zone on your task once you get started. Before you know it, 5 hours have passed and you got 2 weeks of work done.
Sounds to me like someone is on the Microsoft payroll if you ask me?
No sympathy for the devil, man. ;)
And yes I have read the communist manifesto as part of a class assignment. Have you read the Principia Discordia?
Good luck getting them to move toward Linux though... Ive tried.
They have been known to lie, exaggerate, misrepresent the facts, fund questionable research which states their product to be better when independent research states otherwise. This isn't so much a question of bashing your competitor as it is of using your own Microsoft controlled media to push it's own views...
This I equate with communist radio and communist TV stations telling you how great communism is.
Gee... Microsoft complaining about the competition beating them? When does THAT ever happen?
As for the software, Textbridge is perhaps the best that I know of.