1) Desert Shield/Desert Storm has not yet ended. It is the same war..ask the pilots who were being shot at all though the "peaceful" clinton years. 2) What idiot would actually be for war? It's a disgusting slap at the American people to say that they are for a war, anymore than I am. 3) Oh, I get it!! A military action where we go in, have luck and airpower with us, and quit after 100 hours is "popular". But a war where we actually have an enemy fight back is "unpopular" and thus never worth fighting?
Maybe I should have tagged this question as Commitment to Teachers. The kids are the end receivers, but the teachers are stuck in a world where the kids barely know what a paper encyclopedia is.
Wikipedia isn't an experiment any more - it is often the resource of choice. Especially for students.
Bob Ney and Diebold are two topics much in the news. Neither of the articles is an adequate, encyclopedic, or even brief and fair, representation of the subject.
How does Wikipedia accept the responsibilities now placed on it? Caveat lector, or caveat magister, seems not enough any more.
For those who are interested, we do have studies and figures which suggest that Kern is addressing a valid problem.
The National Science Foundation took a look, and said, (along with charts and figures):
Global competition for S&E talent is intensifying, such that the United
States may not be able to rely on the international S&E labor market to
fill unmet skill needs;
The number of native-born S&E graduates entering the workforce is likely
to decline unless the Nation intervenes to improve success in educating
S&E students from all demographic groups, especially those underrepresented in S&E careers.
It goes on to examine the global and domestic contexts, the flattening of US participation in science and engineering education relative to other countries, and the dismal participation of minorities.
Years from now we'll declassify it, and the poli-sci folks can read about it in the papers and debate whether we made the right choices or not.;-)
(If it makes you feel better, ask the ex-Soviet generals: 'Who won the Cold War?'. They will tell you it was American engineers - who never fired a round.)
Yes, and if you are lucky, you will get all that money. As a politics major, you likely will find plenty of meat for your pessimism. You will, though, miss learning and seeing some cool things.
Now, Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln...they were surveyors and builders and optimists.
Puffing out chests and condemning the questioner. Macho, but is it thoughtful?
Me, I like solving problems. Hard ones. Learning theory offers such challenges.
For the record, Carnegie-Mellon granted me a B.S. Physics. Immediately thereafter, I solved problems at the top level of the world's most complex embedded electronics system. Multi-mode radar, navigation, guidance, terrain following, all those fun challenges - with limited computing power. My second job included the challenge of integrating and standardizing multiple such platforms. With teams of many hundreds-- thousands--of engineers.
Does any of that give pause to re-examine how we train engineers? Of course.
Lessons many of us have learned in 21st century engineering include:
Communications solves more problems than grinding mathematics most any day. Excellence at the skills of listening, rhetoric (clear, concise writing), and research are far more critical to most engineering positions than mathematical success.
Simplicity may trump rigor and finesse. (Ask Tim Berners-Lee or anybody else who, in 1989, worked the "hypertext" problem.
Committment to the basics of quality builds the foundation for the next generation of ingenutiy.
I prize the workload we endured at CMU. It allows me to know I've been tested to the max. I have no problem looking at a U.S. Marine who's been through "The Crucible" and saying, "Fine. Stress your mind to its limit for 4 years." It follows: if I meet an engineer graduate from the U.S. Military Academy., I know I've met a man (woman). So, yes, make our students work.
But I also feel my education was designed in 1960.
Engineering schools should teach in ways that allow students to learn smarter and harder. This thread could rise to a higher level of discussion of how.
Doing fifteen problems from chapter 6 (and ch. 7, and ch 8,...) instead of seven problems is not the only way to become a better problem solver. It may be one of the worst.
Team projects and competitions - from DARPA's Grand challenge to simple one month constructions - allow students to taste real, group problem solving.
Learning to write in one compelling page what you were writing in 5 snoozers will aid your future team or boss or journal article readers.
Learning--in your bones--how Thomas Hutchison had to work in order to establish a land grid in the U.S. may free your mind for more focus on real engineering problems instead of imagined comfort or reward problems. Learning how the Romans built Rome might give you patience.
Mastering suppy-demand curves, how Deng Xiaoping discovered the same principle as William Bradford; and the basics of accrual accounting; may make you a better engineer and disabuse you of some of the sillier thought patterns that plague the academy and society
A class in fundamentals of leadership and followership might lead to greater team efficiency and success.
Should Doug Kern have been an engineer? Maybe, maybe not. Yet the U.S. today grants only 5% of its BS/BA degrees to engineers. China graduates 39% engineers; Taiwan 23%, and Japan 19%. Of our 5%, many will take their degrees back to their native countries. Many will transition to other career fields.
We should be looking to see if Kern doesn't make a good point, and asking, like good problems solvers, how to make things better.
OK, I use Panera all the time. I bring in my laptop and go. (I think I registered once).
But every library I know will not let me do this.
At Carnegie Mellon U, where I was yesterday, they now require registration to use even the normal desktop (library catalog access) terminals. When I asked why, they said "hate mail".
Don't see the language JOVIAL. We should. Used in many, many USAF systems, JOVIAL was a true precursor to Ada, and influential in its own right.
If nothing else, JOVIAL should be recognized for the role it plays in things-that-go-BOOM, and therefor in the flow of world history.
However, JOVIAL is significant computationally for the way it introduced real-time extensions, suport for embedded systems, and for very-large-scale systems engineering.
Sorry perhaps they meant 75Mhz. I have enough trouble keeping track of the current processors, not to mention Dell's lovely move to use the same model number on systems with different bus speeds.
Amazingly, the Village Council hired a member's son-in-law as village administrator. His credentials (completely unchecked, of course) included just such a fine degree. He would step into the middle of a complete downtown rennovation project.
Three years later, he has returned to Arkansas (thankfully!), but has taken with him $45,000 in severance pay. His computer remains at the state Bureau of Criminal Investigation, the rumor being it may contain child porn.
And the Village has a new $100k street sweeper no one wanted. Meanwhile the police department mucks through on 25Mhz Pentium I desktops.
The Administrator position is open. We can pay the cat well.
Thanks. That is a lot more reassuring. I just did all that (except it already had SP2), plus updating Office (also a security threat), and thought I was ahead in only spending 5-6 hours on and off. Then I reduced my price to $90 because of all I'd read here.
This is rural Appalacia, so I doubt I'll be seeing many $200 price tags, but I feel a lot better about the $120 or so I was charging. (Well, except for that health insurance thing!)
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1) Desert Shield/Desert Storm has not yet ended. It is the same war..ask the pilots who were being shot at all though the "peaceful" clinton years.
2) What idiot would actually be for war? It's a disgusting slap at the American people to say that they are for a war, anymore than I am.
3) Oh, I get it!! A military action where we go in, have luck and airpower with us, and quit after 100 hours is "popular". But a war where we actually have an enemy fight back is "unpopular" and thus never worth fighting?
As opposed to which popular war?
Gimme a break. Go back and learn something about strategy, and try to write a sentence.
The article said "and encryption".
Well, I just found on the HGP project page ( http://www.ornl.gov/sci/techresources/Human_Genome /home.shtml )that it was completed in 2003. Ant this page: http://www.ornl.gov/sci/techresources/Human_Genome /project/progress.shtml announces any number of completions since then.
So yeah, a little explanation would be in order.
They all look fine. Leave each of them as a selectable skin.
/. since Bill and Monica were an item. Give it a rest. Give the eyeballs something a little fresh.
But we've been looking at
1) Anything but off green.
2) Make it so we can find Search and Topics.
3) Anything but off green.
You mean watching a stampede of 30+ dinosaurs through a 50' chasm, missing all our heroes underfoot is not compelling to you?
Maybe I should have tagged this question as Commitment to Teachers. The kids are the end receivers, but the teachers are stuck in a world where the kids barely know what a paper encyclopedia is.
Wikipedia isn't an experiment any more - it is often the resource of choice. Especially for students. Bob Ney and Diebold are two topics much in the news. Neither of the articles is an adequate, encyclopedic, or even brief and fair, representation of the subject. How does Wikipedia accept the responsibilities now placed on it? Caveat lector, or caveat magister, seems not enough any more.
OK, so I'm too late to mention the big-bother like spread of Google Pidgeons. But can I patent litter monitoring squirrels?
- Global competition for S&E talent is intensifying, such that the United
States may not be able to rely on the international S&E labor market to
fill unmet skill needs;
- The number of native-born S&E graduates entering the workforce is likely
to decline unless the Nation intervenes to improve success in educating
S&E students from all demographic groups, especially those underrepresented in S&E careers.
It goes on to examine the global and domestic contexts, the flattening of US participation in science and engineering education relative to other countries, and the dismal participation of minorities.By the way, the NSF seems to think he's got something right. The National Science Board documents the problems:0 369.pdf
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http://www.nsf.gov/nsb/documents/2003/nsb0369/nsb
and the NSF is tossing money in hopes of solutions:
http://www.nsf.gov/pubs/2005/nsf05519/nsf05519.ht
Looks like Princeton. (I was hoping to say, "a quick Google finds...", but it wasn't quick at all.
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If it makes you feel better, he has little more respect for his law school:
http://www.techcentralstation.com/062204E.html
Years from now we'll declassify it, and the poli-sci folks can read about it in the papers and debate whether we made the right choices or not.
(If it makes you feel better, ask the ex-Soviet generals: 'Who won the Cold War?'. They will tell you it was American engineers - who never fired a round.)
Yes, and if you are lucky, you will get all that money. As a politics major, you likely will find plenty of meat for your pessimism. You will, though, miss learning and seeing some cool things.
Now, Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln...they were surveyors and builders and optimists.
Best of luck.
Ed
Me, I like solving problems. Hard ones. Learning theory offers such challenges.
For the record, Carnegie-Mellon granted me a B.S. Physics. Immediately thereafter, I solved problems at the top level of the world's most complex embedded electronics system. Multi-mode radar, navigation, guidance, terrain following, all those fun challenges - with limited computing power. My second job included the challenge of integrating and standardizing multiple such platforms. With teams of many hundreds-- thousands--of engineers.
Does any of that give pause to re-examine how we train engineers? Of course.
Lessons many of us have learned in 21st century engineering include:
I prize the workload we endured at CMU. It allows me to know I've been tested to the max. I have no problem looking at a U.S. Marine who's been through "The Crucible" and saying, "Fine. Stress your mind to its limit for 4 years." It follows: if I meet an engineer graduate from the U.S. Military Academy., I know I've met a man (woman). So, yes, make our students work.
But I also feel my education was designed in 1960.Engineering schools should teach in ways that allow students to learn smarter and harder. This thread could rise to a higher level of discussion of how.
Should Doug Kern have been an engineer? Maybe, maybe not. Yet the U.S. today grants only 5% of its BS/BA degrees to engineers. China graduates 39% engineers; Taiwan 23%, and Japan 19%. Of our 5%, many will take their degrees back to their native countries. Many will transition to other career fields.
We should be looking to see if Kern doesn't make a good point, and asking, like good problems solvers, how to make things better.
The full text of Gates' speech is available on the website of the 2005 National Education Summit on High Schools.
More info is also at Achieve.org, including an Action Agenda.
OK, I use Panera all the time. I bring in my laptop and go. (I think I registered once).
But every library I know will not let me do this.
At Carnegie Mellon U, where I was yesterday, they now require registration to use even the normal desktop (library catalog access) terminals. When I asked why, they said "hate mail".
Explain?
Lap dances are 2 blocks east. ...And 3 blocks south. ...And down the highway...
If you surf at the Belden Location, you can walk to a brand new 2 story lap-dance place...
Certainly as fast as my 1.5M DSL at home....fast enough to download XMLSPY.
There's another Panera across from Belden Village;
Panini's Bar & Grill has free access.
At their Strip location!
Don't see the language JOVIAL. We should. Used in many, many USAF systems, JOVIAL was a true precursor to Ada, and influential in its own right.
If nothing else, JOVIAL should be recognized for the role it plays in things-that-go-BOOM, and therefor in the flow of world history.
However, JOVIAL is significant computationally for the way it introduced real-time extensions, suport for embedded systems, and for very-large-scale systems engineering.
See my job posting.
Ability to walk the sidewalks daily, hunched over, with a 5-lb radio strapped to your belt is a plus.
Ability to notice that the new faux-brick sidewalks are already crumbling is above and beyond the call of duty.
Sorry perhaps they meant 75Mhz. I have enough trouble keeping track of the current processors, not to mention Dell's lovely move to use the same model number on systems with different bus speeds.
Amazingly, the Village Council hired a member's son-in-law as village administrator. His credentials (completely unchecked, of course) included just such a fine degree. He would step into the middle of a complete downtown rennovation project.
Three years later, he has returned to Arkansas (thankfully!), but has taken with him $45,000 in severance pay. His computer remains at the state Bureau of Criminal Investigation, the rumor being it may contain child porn.
And the Village has a new $100k street sweeper no one wanted. Meanwhile the police department mucks through on 25Mhz Pentium I desktops.
The Administrator position is open. We can pay the cat well.
Thanks. That is a lot more reassuring. I just did all that (except it already had SP2), plus updating Office (also a security threat), and thought I was ahead in only spending 5-6 hours on and off. Then I reduced my price to $90 because of all I'd read here.
This is rural Appalacia, so I doubt I'll be seeing many $200 price tags, but I feel a lot better about the $120 or so I was charging. (Well, except for that health insurance thing!)