sorry, but this reminds me of an infamous send-up of the awfull british radio dj pat sharp:
The endangered animals arent really endangered.... They're just hiding. And at the expense of all the common animals. I say kill a panda - save a pidgeon!
No, they could create a male and female, they would be twins.
Using current cloning techniques, you can only create the same sex as the DNA donor. Unfortunately the goat was female, but if it had been male (males have an X and a Y chromosome, wherease females have two X chromosomes), I dont see why you couldnt do some nifty chromomal transfer and produce a male and female from one donor.
this is mildly offtopic, but i was reminded of a news article from around a year ago. true story.
The last pyrenesse mountain goat left in the world was on a 24hr watch by park rangers. There was talk of cloning it, using a related goat species as the surrogate mother.
its kinda right... python was a product of the cambridge-university based footlights. which is the cornerstone of (exportable) british comedy. you would think these guys would be stone-faced sober acedimics. but no. in fact, they have produced some of the finest comedians in the world... right from MP up to AliG. i dont think americans will know this one (or even get it...) but he is FUNNY. and endlessly repeatable like MP.
its funny how if your in a room full of americans all you need to do is breathe the words "monty pyth..." and suddennly the room is a cocophony of
ni|run away run away|spank me|burn the witch|your mother is a snowblower|shwubbary|i'll bite your balls off|african swallow|brave, brave sir robin|a herring|ni nI NI NI
all you pro-gun fanatics are obviously missing the point:
what i am sying is that you cannot compare a gun with a portscanner. duh. like, sure you can kill someone with a screwdriver. or a gun or a teaspoon. but a portscanner??
what i am saying is (and _listen_ this time): GUN LAW Vs PORSCANNER LAW IS NOT A FAIR COMPARISON
i aint anti-guns.... but if you say they dont kill poeple yau are an idiot. they are designed with one purpose in mind. which means the screwdriver/knife/teaspoon/coliander argument really doesnt hold water.
erm... whoever moderated this as troll is obviously an idiot. and mikethegeek too. i qoute him:
"....the same kind of flawed thinking that leads to things like anti-gun laws"
guns kill people. the more guns there are, the more people get shot.
whether portscanners increase or decrease security is a different matter altogother. its not a life or death situation, just a financial one.
dont confuse money with life.
!i feel strongly enough about this to post non-anonymously, despite the off-topic/troll factor!
Volrath: I know you aint 8 yrs old or whatever you claim to be (or else you're gonna be one 1ee7 d00d man), but i would still would mod ya up if i had that authority
yeah well i'm not a yank, and i think there might be 1or2 other/. readers who aint either. anyway, i here ricochet coverage is pretty poor (major us cities, at best).
one of the few cool things about my mobile is that it works up a mounatian. or botswana. or even in wales.
therefore 3g offers the only hope of increased mobile bandwith worldwide - not just for the lucky few.
offtopic mode on: However, here in the uk, we may have BIG g3 problems - the government (in their usual wise ways) auctioned the 3g liscence to the mob companies for bout a £kazillion. which sounds good.... untill you hit a technological slump. doh. erricson.... redundancies. nokia.... scale-down.
"Touch typing was invented over 100 years ago. In all that time there have been no significat advances in how people type."
Apparantly the original typewriter layout was simply abcdef.... etc. However
the problem occured that the typist were typing too fast, and the little
hammers were going down at practically the same time and getting stuck
togethor (you oldies out their might just remember this.... if the selinity
has'nt set in yet!). So tthe typewriter manufacturers had to slow the keys
down somehow. And the result was the qwerty keyboard. Of all the possible
arrangements in 'keyboard space', qwerty is one of the worst.
A prime example of backwards compatibility gone wrong.
In leiu of this, surely it would be better to arrange a new keyboard that
might help speed things up a little (...at least for our children), rather
than, er, chopping it in half!
The Scene: A polling booth, somewhere in East London, UK
The Date: Mid-June 2023
"Hello Sir, Could I take your polling card please?"
"Er" The man fumbles in his pockets for a second - "here"
"And your Microsoft Ex-Pee Product Registration Key please Sir"
"Huh!?"
If it were so easy to do long term covert taps right at the telco, then why is the NSA actually investing billions of dollars in equipment to do undersea taps?
jus though i'd point out that (as the article mentioned) there are fibre-optics running all over th planet (e.g. from japan->china, middle east->europe etc.), and i really dont think these are owned by telco or any other company easily infiltrated by the ss. might it be these fibres the NSA are actually interested in? C'mon - surely they dont want to monitor yanks downloading pr0n.
Apparently, the main difference between gaming and real sports (from this thread at least...) is that oldworld, real sports have evolved "rules" and "regulations". I can imagine the bickering at football games a couple of centuries back (moving goalposts etal).
It would appear that gaming is at such a stage, where some basic ground rules probably need to be layed down so a consensus exists between major international tournaments.
From my experience and reading the posts in this thread, my reccomendations would be:
1. Tournament provides standard box/monitor
2. You provide mouse/kb
3. You bring disk/cd with drivers and cfg file, with the organisers reserving the right to check disk contents where foul play suspected etc.
4. Rotating computers is probably too much hassle, but providing some back up machines would be advisable.
>millions of dollars were spent by medical research institutions
>to locate these genetic defects on the genome. Still,
>nothing has come of these findings, beyond the
>patenting of screening tests, which can be used to warn
>couples that any of their children might have a
>one-in-four chance of being born with a disease
This is clearly not true. A number of example exist where gene characterisation has led to treatments. One of the most striking examples being e.g. Phenylketonuria 20 years ago this disease led to complete brain damage at a very early age. Now, with only slight dietary intervention, these children grow up completely normally.
>In the case of cancer, nothing definite has been found
>after a 20-year search.
Furthermore, cloning of cancer genes such as the most common ones for breast cancer BRCA1 and BRCA2 have considerably impoved screening in famalies prone to breast cancer and real improvements in expected lifetime of these patients has been shown.
Basically the article is badly researched and a typical oversimplification of the facts by the press. It seems to make out that the Genome scientists have been trumpeting themselves for years - saying how were gonna cure all human disease and suffering etc. And then suddenly we get the sequence of the genome and we realise it aint so simple and my god we were so wrong all allong. In fact it has been chiefly the media who have been building up Genome Research as The Next Big Thing, and now it is really unsuprising that they are knocking it down. As you may have guessed, this is pretty much my field and nobody i know (except laymen;-)) batted an eyelid when the number of genes was estimated at 30,000 or whatever. In fact nobody seemed that bothered about the anouncement of the __draft__ human genome sequence.
The truth is that the complexity of life is reflected in the Genome and Proteome and this has been known for a long, long time. The article is correct in that medical breakthroughs have been slow coming from genome research, and yes, companies with vested interest may have exaggerated just a }{ little.
But the article is a load of crap in that there has been no great paradigm shift within the field due to wether we have 30000 or whatever genes.
er, why not bypass the oversized middleman and just fire the nukes straight at telford?
ive been there and know this would solve alot of problems.
\/
peace.
this may sound ultra-nerdy but i have found linux user groups a pretty good way to meet likeminded people. a slight paucity of the opposite sex, admitedly, but they can still be pretty social.
Another good place for meeting folks is at an evening class. If your after a woman you can pick something creative like comtempary-fashion design;-)
However, you might feel like a complete tool and give up after two weeks, so better to pick something you actually enjoy/want to learn. That way you can combine work/learning, and hopefully meet some similiar people.
On the same theme, sport classes (martial arts lessons anyone?) can be darn good fun. fencing and kabadi are particular favourites!
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"Brody's got friends in every town
and village from here to the Sudan.
He speaks a dozen languages, knows
every local custom. He'll blend
in. Disappear."
Aahhh fuk it.... i'll jus put the whole thing up on my l337 warez server anyhow....
If a tree falls in a deserted forest and lands on schrodinger's cat, is the cat....
The endangered animals arent really endangered.... They're just hiding. And at the expense of all the common animals. I say kill a panda - save a pidgeon!
Using current cloning techniques, you can only create the same sex as the DNA donor. Unfortunately the goat was female, but if it had been male (males have an X and a Y chromosome, wherease females have two X chromosomes), I dont see why you couldnt do some nifty chromomal transfer and produce a male and female from one donor.
The last pyrenesse mountain goat left in the world was on a 24hr watch by park rangers. There was talk of cloning it, using a related goat species as the surrogate mother.
And then a tree fell on it...
is it cos i is black?
wind em up watch em go
-some bitter brit
ps still makes me laff though ;)
if you were real men, you wouldnt mind risking a few karma
all you pro-gun fanatics are obviously missing the point:
what i am sying is that you cannot compare a gun with a portscanner. duh. like, sure you can kill someone with a screwdriver. or a gun or a teaspoon. but a portscanner??
what i am saying is (and _listen_ this time): GUN LAW Vs PORSCANNER LAW IS NOT A FAIR COMPARISON
i aint anti-guns.... but if you say they dont kill poeple yau are an idiot. they are designed with one purpose in mind. which means the screwdriver/knife/teaspoon/coliander argument really doesnt hold water.
erm... whoever moderated this as troll is obviously an idiot. and mikethegeek too. i qoute him:
"....the same kind of flawed thinking that leads to things like anti-gun laws"
guns kill people. the more guns there are, the more people get shot.
whether portscanners increase or decrease security is a different matter altogother. its not a life or death situation, just a financial one.
dont confuse money with life.
!i feel strongly enough about this to post non-anonymously, despite the off-topic/troll factor!
keep it real -- AliG
yeah well i'm not a yank, and i think there might be 1or2 other /. readers who aint either. anyway, i here ricochet coverage is pretty poor (major us cities, at best).
one of the few cool things about my mobile is that it works up a mounatian. or botswana. or even in wales.
therefore 3g offers the only hope of increased mobile bandwith worldwide - not just for the lucky few.
offtopic mode on: However, here in the uk, we may have BIG g3 problems - the government (in their usual wise ways) auctioned the 3g liscence to the mob companies for bout a £kazillion. which sounds good.... untill you hit a technological slump. doh. erricson.... redundancies. nokia.... scale-down.
i want my 3g :-(
Apparantly the original typewriter layout was simply abcdef.... etc. However the problem occured that the typist were typing too fast, and the little hammers were going down at practically the same time and getting stuck togethor (you oldies out their might just remember this.... if the selinity has'nt set in yet!). So tthe typewriter manufacturers had to slow the keys down somehow. And the result was the qwerty keyboard. Of all the possible arrangements in 'keyboard space', qwerty is one of the worst. A prime example of backwards compatibility gone wrong.
In leiu of this, surely it would be better to arrange a new keyboard that might help speed things up a little (...at least for our children), rather than, er, chopping it in half!
The Scene: A polling booth, somewhere in East London, UK
The Date: Mid-June 2023
"Hello Sir, Could I take your polling card please?"
"Er" The man fumbles in his pockets for a second - "here"
"And your Microsoft Ex-Pee Product Registration Key please Sir"
"Huh!?"
Sirens whir in the distance.....
jus though i'd point out that (as the article mentioned) there are fibre-optics running all over th planet (e.g. from japan->china, middle east->europe etc.), and i really dont think these are owned by telco or any other company easily infiltrated by the ss. might it be these fibres the NSA are actually interested in? C'mon - surely they dont want to monitor yanks downloading pr0n.
LOL.....
I just tried to visit transactie.org and the server was down!!
3 years uptime without the slightest trouble and then along come a herd of slashdotters.....
Apparently, the main difference between gaming and real sports (from this thread at least...) is that oldworld, real sports have evolved "rules" and "regulations". I can imagine the bickering at football games a couple of centuries back (moving goalposts etal).
It would appear that gaming is at such a stage, where some basic ground rules probably need to be layed down so a consensus exists between major international tournaments.
From my experience and reading the posts in this thread, my reccomendations would be:
1. Tournament provides standard box/monitor
2. You provide mouse/kb
3. You bring disk/cd with drivers and cfg file, with the organisers reserving the right to check disk contents where foul play suspected etc.
4. Rotating computers is probably too much hassle, but providing some back up machines would be advisable.
>millions of dollars were spent by medical research institutions
;-)) batted an eyelid when the number of genes was estimated at 30,000 or whatever. In fact nobody seemed that bothered about the anouncement of the __draft__ human genome sequence.
>to locate these genetic defects on the genome. Still,
>nothing has come of these findings, beyond the
>patenting of screening tests, which can be used to warn
>couples that any of their children might have a
>one-in-four chance of being born with a disease
This is clearly not true. A number of example exist where gene characterisation has led to treatments. One of the most striking examples being e.g. Phenylketonuria 20 years ago this disease led to complete brain damage at a very early age. Now, with only slight dietary intervention, these children grow up completely normally.
>In the case of cancer, nothing definite has been found
>after a 20-year search.
Furthermore, cloning of cancer genes such as the most common ones for breast cancer BRCA1 and BRCA2 have considerably impoved screening in famalies prone to breast cancer and real improvements in expected lifetime of these patients has been shown.
Basically the article is badly researched and a typical oversimplification of the facts by the press. It seems to make out that the Genome scientists have been trumpeting themselves for years - saying how were gonna cure all human disease and suffering etc. And then suddenly we get the sequence of the genome and we realise it aint so simple and my god we were so wrong all allong. In fact it has been chiefly the media who have been building up Genome Research as The Next Big Thing, and now it is really unsuprising that they are knocking it down. As you may have guessed, this is pretty much my field and nobody i know (except laymen
The truth is that the complexity of life is reflected in the Genome and Proteome and this has been known for a long, long time. The article is correct in that medical breakthroughs have been slow coming from genome research, and yes, companies with vested interest may have exaggerated just a }{ little.
But the article is a load of crap in that there has been no great paradigm shift within the field due to wether we have 30000 or whatever genes.
er, why not bypass the oversized middleman and just fire the nukes straight at telford? ive been there and know this would solve alot of problems. \/ peace.
this may sound ultra-nerdy but i have found linux user groups a pretty good way to meet likeminded people. a slight paucity of the opposite sex, admitedly, but they can still be pretty social.
;-)
Another good place for meeting folks is at an evening class. If your after a woman you can pick something creative like comtempary-fashion design
However, you might feel like a complete tool and give up after two weeks, so better to pick something you actually enjoy/want to learn. That way you can combine work/learning, and hopefully meet some similiar people.
On the same theme, sport classes (martial arts lessons anyone?) can be darn good fun. fencing and kabadi are particular favourites!
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~
"Brody's got friends in every town
and village from here to the Sudan.
He speaks a dozen languages, knows
every local custom. He'll blend
in. Disappear."