I'll bite... you aren't a very good programmer if some 16 year old can crack your software... write better code, make more money.
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It may be that google searches from linux boxes only account for 1% of their hits... however, how many times do you log into your server to search google? especially your server that doesn't have a gui on it?
I have 10 desktop boxes that are running as servers (linux is so nice and versatile like that), these sales counted as adding to the *desktop* market share, but I never search google with any of them. You can buy a whole heap of cheap desktop machines with linux, cluster them and have a nice load balanced, redundant web server farm for way cheaper than buying actual server machines...
This is most certainly FUD. having the IP address of a VoIP phone is not enough to send them a voicemail. You have to know (at least on any decently secure system) a phone number, and an IP address. And, to leave a message you have to have an open communication channel with the messaging server, not the phone (again on any decently secure system).
I manage VoIP for a 9000 node network. Only the messaging server can leave a voicemail in a persons voicemail box, and to leave a message on the system you have to open a connection to the server (over sip, or from the pstn) at any rate, if it was incoming spam to my organization it would have to come over the pstn (we are voip internally, to all of our branches, but pstn everywhere else). Thus, spam would have to be initiated from the PSTN, and would be limited to a total of about 200 simultaneous calls (we have about 10 PRIs for connections to the outside world, we run about 60% usage on those PRIs).
Thus realistically a telemarketer could only leave about 80 messages simultaneously before starting to get the no circuits available error from our provider, and it would tie up 80 of their phone lines for the 30 seconds it would take to leave the message, and they would have to pay long distance etc for those calls. Now, inside our organization, you can send a voicemail to everyone at once, but it is very restricted (IE, you can only do this from 3 accounts, and to make a call from one of these 3 accounts you have to know the pin numbers to allow the call through).
In our setup, I can't think of a single way to really automate sending everyone a voicemail, besides hacking one of those 3 accounts, or calling all 9000 people... granted you could have a voice recorder call the numbers, and leave messages, but telemarketers already do that, and with VoIP it would be no different. You can't just email the voicemail to the accounts, as the voicemail system only recognizes voicemail that it has put in the email accounts (it keeps a database of unique IDs that it puts in the email and only reads the emails it generated).
Furthermore, emailing 9000 copies of a 300KB message, would require alot more bandwidth than sending 9000 4KB html viagra ads. Why would a telemarketer do it? Or a spammer? Bandwidth is cheap, but it still costs something. Sure, they can use their zombie nets, and then its not their bandwidth, but, if they are sending multi-megabyte chunks of mail, alot more people will notice that they are infected if their net connections noticably slow down.
I agree with you. At my last job, I was always getting taken to task for not "appearing" busy. I always had my required tasks well in hand, I didn't have anything else to do, but it upset people that I wasn't constantly working, so they would always complain to my boss.
However, it is much more likely that the reason this guy that plays solitaire constantly isn't getting canned is because of some political connection.
My mother in law is currently in this situation... Her co-worker doesn't do anything, always pushes everything off on her, but if any complaints about the 2 of them go to the higher-ups it automatically gets blamed on her, cause her co-worker is the son of the CTO, and therefore, above the law. If their boss yells at him (the sone), he (the boss) gets yelled at by the CTO...
well, I'm talking packet voice not digital cell service. VoIP will work over a WLAN, but it can be flaky, like a cell phone, which is generally unacceptable as a carrier of last resort.
I'm also talking about IP Video which your streaming video would qualify for, but try comparing the quality of that streaming video to a DVD or HDTV. Yeah, you can receive broadcast HDTV but that isn't IP Video, it isn't packetized, which is where the latency kills you. If you get packets arriving a few milliseconds late it seriously degrades video performance leading to pixelization, blurriness, and annoyed/frustrated customers.
Yeah, Verizon is rolling out their service at 30mbps, and this can attain 300mbps in the lab... well, I've seen 1tbps in the lab over fiber... so touch that wireless! Anyway, I work at a ftth provider, we have 1gbps dedicated to every home, switched network, not shared (like wireless is).
We give up to 50mbps for internet... as our bandwidth gets cheaper, we'll be bumping that up to 100mbps, wireless can't hold anything to fiber.. besides, you can't do reliable voice over wireless (latency issues) and certainly not video which we provide as well, more than 5ms of latency and your video stream is toast...
Wireless will never be a reliable triple play provider, which is the holy grail in telecommunications right now.
As far as users using your server goes, if the domains from which they are claiming to be sending mail list your server as a legitimate source, then they will be able to send just fine. If their domain admins do not list your server as a legitimate source, then they should use whatever systems their work has set up.
Do you understand the administrative headache that coordinating this with 1000+ mail admins across the country will be???!!!
I have no hold over them, I can't tell them "Hey add me to your list of approved relays". I can't add them to my list of approved relays, I don't trust them to properly configure their server, maybe they leave it open for a day and suddenly mail from my domain is blacklisted, and I have no clue why.
These people don't have alternative means of sending work email, their offices are small, or they don't understand VPN or SMTP auth, or anything, I've talked to some of them, they are idiots and I'm certainly not going to train a bunch of people that don't work for/with me in the first place how to properly configure a webmail interface, or a vpn to allow remote users to send email. SPF assumes entirely too much about mail admins across the country, and that is the problem with it.
I don't have control over all of these mx's. They are at remote sites, owned and operated by other people. My 1 mail server is labeled in dns, however, I can't tell all of the remote mailservers to relay to this central one, they are out of my control. I can't put all of the remote mailservers in dns, they and the domains they are in are out of my control.
Every high speed ISP I've ever used (dsl, cable, wireless) has blocked by default outgoing port 25 on their DHCP/normal addresses. my DSL and wireless providers have made exceptions for static IPs that I pay extra for, which are reserved in their network, and set aside for people to run servers on, and therefore aren't as restricted. But, good luck getting comcast to do same..
Except most ISPs block outgoing port 25 these days, so every user has to change his outgoing port number to communicate with the authenticated server. This is a large burden on any small isp/mail host. Making this change will mean a phone call from 80-90% of any consumer base. "What is this port thingy I've got to change to get my email to work again?"
Yes, thats what it means. SPF screws all the little guys, I do this, and I run a service for about 250 contractors that do this as well... I handle incoming mail, they are responsible for outgoing mail, I manage the domains, and the mail stores, but they set their smtp servers to whatever they need (their isp, their clients, the branch office they are at...) This will no longer work.
If SPF and microsoft force me to maintain a rotating table of 40,000 entries, then it is a cludge, a hack, and no where near a solution. That this is the "best anti-spam solution" available is an embarassment.
SPF requires that you know every mail server that will ever relay mail for your domain. This is unknowable. I manage 40 domains, people using these domains for email regularly travel to branch offices where they change their outgoing smtp server to whatever server is local to that office... I'm talking about a rotating list of around 1000 smtp servers that have to be on all 40 of these domains... That is the most unmanagable hack I've ever seen. This is not one company I manage small domains for contractors that need to be able to have 1 email address, but that are constantly moving to different physical locations, and using many smtp servers. Furthermore, VPN is not a solution as most of the time they are on heavily firewalled and NATed networks where VPN does not work reliably. Also, I work for a small ISP and many of our users use our outgoing smtp server to relay mail for their work accounts that don't have VPN set up for them. All of this email will now be summarily rejected.... whoever came up with SPF is an idiot, thanks for breaking email, this is the death of it.
This article is complete bunk. For example, There are 2 security errata on RHN right now for the kernel, both of which either require local access or a very poorly configured server to exploit, but this company probably counts both of them as critical although of the hundreds of servers I manage only 1 is vulnerable to either of these (I only have one machine with local users on it, and I'm not running the kernel NFS server anywhere).
Further, it states that RHEL 3 has had 50 vulnerabilities since last Nov... well, I'm quite sure that they are counting bugs in all of the software included with the distro. Most of my servers are just running a barebones amount of services, any one advisory might hit on 2 or 3 of my 500+ servers (unless its something like openssl/ssh..) But anyway, on the few windows servers I manage (about 10) every vuln hits on all ten of them every time. It is much more difficult to patch those 10 systems than the 500+ redhat boxes (log in to RHN select the errata, click apply, wait a few hours done). With the 10 windows machines, walk into the data center, walk to the windows rack, pop open the kvm, log in to 1 server, go to windowsupdate, start the download, log into the next, start download * 10, then reboot all 10 servers use my downtime for the next 2 years... and ok 2 hours later, during which time I had to actually be monitoring all of the boxes and couldn't do anything else, I've patched the latest IE hole....
So, they put WiFi on a ship... When they're out at sea they still have no access, and when they park their boat at whatever place they decide they're going to protest next, hopefully someone will just have a big antenna pointing out into the middle of the ocean to give them access?? Seems far fetched and stupid to me.
Besides all of my dislike of greenpeace this just seems pointless (like most of what greenpeace does). Why doesn't greenpeace use all their man hours of volunteer work to try to create technology that supports their movement?
Heck, they could sell that boat (I bet they'd fetch at least 10-15 million for it), take that cash and buy a bunch of solar panels, take their volunteers, buy some land in the desert somewhere, and build a solar generation plant... Then wow they've got renewable revenue, proving their point, and making money to support more renewable power generation elsewhere... But wait that would be capitalist and thats bad (to them..) so they'll just continue with their eco-terror tactics and hope someone starts taking them seriously.
If there is something on your desktop that you aren't looking at then your desktop is misconfigured anyway. I always turn off the autohide because if programs I install put something in the tray they automatically are uninstalled. Nothing is worse than people that bug me saying "I don't know why my computer is slow now" when you turn off their autohide, and the running programs take up half the task bar... oh thats the problem... MS is so good at hiding spyware/adware from people they should be sued. Anyway, as I said in the begining, if there is something on your desktop that you aren't looking at, your desktop is misconfigured.
Similar company size, about 20 employees, we have a nice server with 5 36GB drives, running RAID 5, and another old system, with 2 120 GB IDE drives running RAID 1 in software (redhat), this machine rsyncs every hour with the main server... Its been fine for 2.5 years now.. lost a drive once in the RAID 5, replaced it and everything came back up fine...
we aren't getting 15k/mo we only get 5k/mo, the other 10k is opportunity cost that the attorney incurs because they cannot work while we are fixing stupid windows bugs.
We aren't talking about people who make $100/hr, we are talking about people who are billed out at that. At my last job I only made $25/hr, it was a networking consulting company. The company billed me out at $150/hr. So every hour I was on site working on a customer's problem, they were getting $150/hr bills.
So if I go to their site, and their computer's are down (maybe they are attorney's say.. they are billing at 200-300/hr).
So, I'm there 2 hours dealing with 1 computer that is down because outlook decided it didn't want to work today... the TCO of that windows box then is the $300 I just charged, plus the $400-$600 that the attorney just lost while he couldn't use his computer. Thats $700-$900, and trust me we had many clients who had $5,000 bills every month... thats 33 hours and at the attorneys offices we worked, thats another $6600-$9900 every month. We are talking about 20-30 computer networks here, not hundreds of computers. The attorneys office I've been mentioning had 24 employees, and 2 servers. They were losing 11600-14900 every month to keep this tiny network running... Thats bizarre.
yeah, I've got a triopoly, Comcast, and dish and direct... but I refuse to sign a 1 or 2 year contract when I only have a 6 month lease... so really I only have 1 choice.
Well, In the area of television since Comcast has a basic monopoly (ok maybe a duopoly, but really I don't think comcast competes with satelite) They don't have to do what the customer wants, just what the shareholders want.
I have definately seen this in the job market 1 year ago I was looking for DBA jobs, and hardly anyone requested linux knowledge/experience.
Now I'm looking again and I would say for 70-80% of the jobs I look at (DBA stuff) linux is either recommended or required. Linux really is making alot of inroads into the DB server market from what I see.
They may not cause an actual loss in GDP right now, but its like sick days, they cost the economy alot in productivity.
If I have to spend all day cleaning viruses off of office computers, thats 8-10 hours I don't spend developing the software my company sells. Even though I still get paid for those 8-10 hours, so GDP is still the same, the actual amount of product has been reduced.
My company has to pay more for the same product than they would have. This means, on the back end the company makes less money, has less to pay its employees, and less to reinvest in new products. That is a real economic loss.
Everyone is always placing a monetary value on human life. The entire civil torts system is based on this, the entire insurance industry is based on this, and the entire medical care industry is based on this. All of these industries weigh risks/rewards and the impact on human productivity and the monetary value that people derive from said productivity.
Trying to deny that human lives have a monetary value is just stupid. You may want to live in an ideal world where everyone is valued the same, where everything is some great eutopia, but you don't so wake up and realize that if we spend a collective 1 billion hours a year say fixing computer bugs, that is alot of money/time/energy that we could have spent improving lives, saving lives, whatever else. It makes a very large impact, and it causes real verifiable damage.
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you aren't a very good programmer if some 16 year old can crack your software... write better code, make more money.
It may be that google searches from linux boxes only account for 1% of their hits... however, how many times do you log into your server to search google? especially your server that doesn't have a gui on it?
I have 10 desktop boxes that are running as servers (linux is so nice and versatile like that), these sales counted as adding to the *desktop* market share, but I never search google with any of them. You can buy a whole heap of cheap desktop machines with linux, cluster them and have a nice load balanced, redundant web server farm for way cheaper than buying actual server machines...
This is most certainly FUD.
having the IP address of a VoIP phone is not enough to send them a voicemail. You have to know (at least on any decently secure system) a phone number, and an IP address. And, to leave a message you have to have an open communication channel with the messaging server, not the phone (again on any decently secure system).
I manage VoIP for a 9000 node network. Only the messaging server can leave a voicemail in a persons voicemail box, and to leave a message on the system you have to open a connection to the server (over sip, or from the pstn) at any rate, if it was incoming spam to my organization it would have to come over the pstn (we are voip internally, to all of our branches, but pstn everywhere else). Thus, spam would have to be initiated from the PSTN, and would be limited to a total of about 200 simultaneous calls (we have about 10 PRIs for connections to the outside world, we run about 60% usage on those PRIs).
Thus realistically a telemarketer could only leave about 80 messages simultaneously before starting to get the no circuits available error from our provider, and it would tie up 80 of their phone lines for the 30 seconds it would take to leave the message, and they would have to pay long distance etc for those calls. Now, inside our organization, you can send a voicemail to everyone at once, but it is very restricted (IE, you can only do this from 3 accounts, and to make a call from one of these 3 accounts you have to know the pin numbers to allow the call through).
In our setup, I can't think of a single way to really automate sending everyone a voicemail, besides hacking one of those 3 accounts, or calling all 9000 people... granted you could have a voice recorder call the numbers, and leave messages, but telemarketers already do that, and with VoIP it would be no different. You can't just email the voicemail to the accounts, as the voicemail system only recognizes voicemail that it has put in the email accounts (it keeps a database of unique IDs that it puts in the email and only reads the emails it generated).
Furthermore, emailing 9000 copies of a 300KB message, would require alot more bandwidth than sending 9000 4KB html viagra ads. Why would a telemarketer do it? Or a spammer? Bandwidth is cheap, but it still costs something. Sure, they can use their zombie nets, and then its not their bandwidth, but, if they are sending multi-megabyte chunks of mail, alot more people will notice that they are infected if their net connections noticably slow down.
I agree with you. At my last job, I was always getting taken to task for not "appearing" busy. I always had my required tasks well in hand, I didn't have anything else to do, but it upset people that I wasn't constantly working, so they would always complain to my boss.
However, it is much more likely that the reason this guy that plays solitaire constantly isn't getting canned is because of some political connection.
My mother in law is currently in this situation... Her co-worker doesn't do anything, always pushes everything off on her, but if any complaints about the 2 of them go to the higher-ups it automatically gets blamed on her, cause her co-worker is the son of the CTO, and therefore, above the law. If their boss yells at him (the sone), he (the boss) gets yelled at by the CTO...
well, I'm talking packet voice not digital cell service. VoIP will work over a WLAN, but it can be flaky, like a cell phone, which is generally unacceptable as a carrier of last resort.
I'm also talking about IP Video which your streaming video would qualify for, but try comparing the quality of that streaming video to a DVD or HDTV. Yeah, you can receive broadcast HDTV but that isn't IP Video, it isn't packetized, which is where the latency kills you. If you get packets arriving a few milliseconds late it seriously degrades video performance leading to pixelization, blurriness, and annoyed/frustrated customers.
Yeah, Verizon is rolling out their service at 30mbps, and this can attain 300mbps in the lab... well, I've seen 1tbps in the lab over fiber... so touch that wireless! Anyway, I work at a ftth provider, we have 1gbps dedicated to every home, switched network, not shared (like wireless is).
We give up to 50mbps for internet... as our bandwidth gets cheaper, we'll be bumping that up to 100mbps, wireless can't hold anything to fiber.. besides, you can't do reliable voice over wireless (latency issues) and certainly not video which we provide as well, more than 5ms of latency and your video stream is toast...
Wireless will never be a reliable triple play provider, which is the holy grail in telecommunications right now.
As far as users using your server goes, if the domains from which they are claiming to be sending mail list your server as a legitimate source, then they will be able to send just fine. If their domain admins do not list your server as a legitimate source, then they should use whatever systems their work has set up.
Do you understand the administrative headache that coordinating this with 1000+ mail admins across the country will be???!!!
I have no hold over them, I can't tell them "Hey add me to your list of approved relays". I can't add them to my list of approved relays, I don't trust them to properly configure their server, maybe they leave it open for a day and suddenly mail from my domain is blacklisted, and I have no clue why.
These people don't have alternative means of sending work email, their offices are small, or they don't understand VPN or SMTP auth, or anything, I've talked to some of them, they are idiots and I'm certainly not going to train a bunch of people that don't work for/with me in the first place how to properly configure a webmail interface, or a vpn to allow remote users to send email. SPF assumes entirely too much about mail admins across the country, and that is the problem with it.
I don't have control over all of these mx's. They are at remote sites, owned and operated by other people. My 1 mail server is labeled in dns, however, I can't tell all of the remote mailservers to relay to this central one, they are out of my control. I can't put all of the remote mailservers in dns, they and the domains they are in are out of my control.
Every high speed ISP I've ever used (dsl, cable, wireless) has blocked by default outgoing port 25 on their DHCP/normal addresses. my DSL and wireless providers have made exceptions for static IPs that I pay extra for, which are reserved in their network, and set aside for people to run servers on, and therefore aren't as restricted. But, good luck getting comcast to do same..
Except most ISPs block outgoing port 25 these days, so every user has to change his outgoing port number to communicate with the authenticated server. This is a large burden on any small isp/mail host. Making this change will mean a phone call from 80-90% of any consumer base. "What is this port thingy I've got to change to get my email to work again?"
Yes, thats what it means. SPF screws all the little guys, I do this, and I run a service for about 250 contractors that do this as well... I handle incoming mail, they are responsible for outgoing mail, I manage the domains, and the mail stores, but they set their smtp servers to whatever they need (their isp, their clients, the branch office they are at...) This will no longer work.
If SPF and microsoft force me to maintain a rotating table of 40,000 entries, then it is a cludge, a hack, and no where near a solution. That this is the "best anti-spam solution" available is an embarassment.
SPF requires that you know every mail server that will ever relay mail for your domain. This is unknowable. I manage 40 domains, people using these domains for email regularly travel to branch offices where they change their outgoing smtp server to whatever server is local to that office... I'm talking about a rotating list of around 1000 smtp servers that have to be on all 40 of these domains... That is the most unmanagable hack I've ever seen. This is not one company I manage small domains for contractors that need to be able to have 1 email address, but that are constantly moving to different physical locations, and using many smtp servers. Furthermore, VPN is not a solution as most of the time they are on heavily firewalled and NATed networks where VPN does not work reliably. Also, I work for a small ISP and many of our users use our outgoing smtp server to relay mail for their work accounts that don't have VPN set up for them. All of this email will now be summarily rejected.... whoever came up with SPF is an idiot, thanks for breaking email, this is the death of it.
This article is complete bunk. For example, There are 2 security errata on RHN right now for the kernel, both of which either require local access or a very poorly configured server to exploit, but this company probably counts both of them as critical although of the hundreds of servers I manage only 1 is vulnerable to either of these (I only have one machine with local users on it, and I'm not running the kernel NFS server anywhere).
Further, it states that RHEL 3 has had 50 vulnerabilities since last Nov... well, I'm quite sure that they are counting bugs in all of the software included with the distro. Most of my servers are just running a barebones amount of services, any one advisory might hit on 2 or 3 of my 500+ servers (unless its something like openssl/ssh..) But anyway, on the few windows servers I manage (about 10) every vuln hits on all ten of them every time. It is much more difficult to patch those 10 systems than the 500+ redhat boxes (log in to RHN select the errata, click apply, wait a few hours done). With the 10 windows machines, walk into the data center, walk to the windows rack, pop open the kvm, log in to 1 server, go to windowsupdate, start the download, log into the next, start download * 10, then reboot all 10 servers use my downtime for the next 2 years... and ok 2 hours later, during which time I had to actually be monitoring all of the boxes and couldn't do anything else, I've patched the latest IE hole....
Loggers then don't count as civilians?
So, they put WiFi on a ship... When they're out at sea they still have no access, and when they park their boat at whatever place they decide they're going to protest next, hopefully someone will just have a big antenna pointing out into the middle of the ocean to give them access?? Seems far fetched and stupid to me.
Besides all of my dislike of greenpeace this just seems pointless (like most of what greenpeace does). Why doesn't greenpeace use all their man hours of volunteer work to try to create technology that supports their movement?
Heck, they could sell that boat (I bet they'd fetch at least 10-15 million for it), take that cash and buy a bunch of solar panels, take their volunteers, buy some land in the desert somewhere, and build a solar generation plant... Then wow they've got renewable revenue, proving their point, and making money to support more renewable power generation elsewhere... But wait that would be capitalist and thats bad (to them..) so they'll just continue with their eco-terror tactics and hope someone starts taking them seriously.
If there is something on your desktop that you aren't looking at then your desktop is misconfigured anyway. I always turn off the autohide because if programs I install put something in the tray they automatically are uninstalled. Nothing is worse than people that bug me saying "I don't know why my computer is slow now" when you turn off their autohide, and the running programs take up half the task bar... oh thats the problem... MS is so good at hiding spyware/adware from people they should be sued. Anyway, as I said in the begining, if there is something on your desktop that you aren't looking at, your desktop is misconfigured.
Similar company size, about 20 employees,
we have a nice server with 5 36GB drives, running RAID 5, and another old system, with 2 120 GB IDE drives running RAID 1 in software (redhat), this machine rsyncs every hour with the main server... Its been fine for 2.5 years now.. lost a drive once in the RAID 5, replaced it and everything came back up fine...
we aren't getting 15k/mo we only get 5k/mo, the other 10k is opportunity cost that the attorney incurs because they cannot work while we are fixing stupid windows bugs.
We aren't talking about people who make $100/hr, we are talking about people who are billed out at that. At my last job I only made $25/hr, it was a networking consulting company. The company billed me out at $150/hr. So every hour I was on site working on a customer's problem, they were getting $150/hr bills.
So if I go to their site, and their computer's are down (maybe they are attorney's say.. they are billing at 200-300/hr).
So, I'm there 2 hours dealing with 1 computer that is down because outlook decided it didn't want to work today... the TCO of that windows box then is the $300 I just charged, plus the $400-$600 that the attorney just lost while he couldn't use his computer. Thats $700-$900, and trust me we had many clients who had $5,000 bills every month... thats 33 hours and at the attorneys offices we worked, thats another $6600-$9900 every month. We are talking about 20-30 computer networks here, not hundreds of computers. The attorneys office I've been mentioning had 24 employees, and 2 servers. They were losing 11600-14900 every month to keep this tiny network running... Thats bizarre.
yeah, I've got a triopoly, Comcast, and dish and direct... but I refuse to sign a 1 or 2 year contract when I only have a 6 month lease... so really I only have 1 choice.
Well,
In the area of television since Comcast has a basic monopoly (ok maybe a duopoly, but really I don't think comcast competes with satelite) They don't have to do what the customer wants, just what the shareholders want.
I have definately seen this in the job market
1 year ago I was looking for DBA jobs, and hardly anyone requested linux knowledge/experience.
Now I'm looking again and I would say for 70-80% of the jobs I look at (DBA stuff) linux is either recommended or required. Linux really is making alot of inroads into the DB server market from what I see.
They may not cause an actual loss in GDP right now, but its like sick days, they cost the economy alot in productivity.
If I have to spend all day cleaning viruses off of office computers, thats 8-10 hours I don't spend developing the software my company sells. Even though I still get paid for those 8-10 hours, so GDP is still the same, the actual amount of product has been reduced.
My company has to pay more for the same product than they would have. This means, on the back end the company makes less money, has less to pay its employees, and less to reinvest in new products. That is a real economic loss.
Everyone is always placing a monetary value on human life. The entire civil torts system is based on this, the entire insurance industry is based on this, and the entire medical care industry is based on this. All of these industries weigh risks/rewards and the impact on human productivity and the monetary value that people derive from said productivity.
Trying to deny that human lives have a monetary value is just stupid. You may want to live in an ideal world where everyone is valued the same, where everything is some great eutopia, but you don't so wake up and realize that if we spend a collective 1 billion hours a year say fixing computer bugs, that is alot of money/time/energy that we could have spent improving lives, saving lives, whatever else. It makes a very large impact, and it causes real verifiable damage.