*and recognizes the existence and validity of contrary or divergent opinions.*
That sounds nice but doesn't work that way in practice, as political opportunists will use "tolerance" of behavior unacceptable to the dominant culture to declare such objections invalid. For instance, I'm opposed to illegal immigration because:
1) My culture values rule of law, and illegal immigrants are breaking the law.
2) The immigrants are exploited for cheap labor by greedy businesses who pay them below the minimum wage, do not follow labor protection laws, and keep them in line by threatening them with deportation. My culture values fair play and again, rule of law.
3) Some of the illegal immigrants commit crimes against my countrymen that would not have occurred if they had not been allowed in the country. My culture values justice, believes the purpose of government is to serve citizens and betrays them by refusing to enforce the laws passed to protect them, and values the lives of countrymen over the economic interest of foreigners and businesses.
4) 80% of the central American women and girls who cross the border illegally are raped during the crossing. My culture finds rape abhorrent and wants these crimes stopped by securing the border so people can only cross in a safe and authorized manner.
However, according to the media (coincidentally owned by businesses that profit from illegal immigration), I'm lying about each of these points, they are not valid opinions, and in fact I simply have an irrational, deranged hatred of Mexicans because I am an entity of pure evil wrapped in human flesh.
So your vision of multiculturalism doesn't matter when the only people who are chastised and told to "understand" the other cultures is the dominant culture.
Were the people from those cultures incompatible with American culture, though? And weren't they treated like shit until they adapted themselves to American culture?
Compare and contrast with importing Islamic culture, which goes to war with every other culture it encounters including itself, and then a significant portion of our people who bend over backwards to avoid criticizing them or making them feel as if they need to change in any way.
Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.
The president has been granted by Congress to ban the entry of all lesbian left-handed eskimo transmidgets. Any aliens or any class of aliens. So there's absolutely no problem with banning people from 7 specific countries for 90 days, correct? So you would agree, I'm not babbling?
But if all you need is some to start rioting to get rid of the problem...
But you'll notice all they did was arrest the 200 or so people who were actually rioting and causing property damage. They torched a muslim immigrant's limo he rented out, they beat the shit out of a trash bin and set it on fire (I'm assuming it was Adolf Binler, the most evil and racist trash bin of all time), etc. Those people got arrested. The hundreds of thousands or millions of other people peacefully waving signs and chanting were unmolested. So, no problem then, right? Arrest people who torch cars, leave people who wave signs? All good?
They wore masks for the rioting. This is an investigation into the few hundred people who were arrested for assault, vandalism, destruction of property, etc. Nothing to do with the hundreds of thousands or millions of people who peacefully waved signs, marched and chanted.
I agree with everything you said. But understand in this case we're talking about warrants issued for people who were arrested for rioting, not protesting. There were hundreds of thousands or even millions if you count the nationwide pussy march thing who peaceful protested, chanted, waved signs, etc. There were about 200 rioters who assaulted people, smashed property, torched cars, beat the hell out of a trash bin (???). These are crimes, and you don't have a right to do these things. And since it seems these people were identically dressed and coordinated their actions. An investigation into organized violence is completely reasonable.
The political pendulum is swinging back to the right, but if it had gone any further left I seriously doubt civil war reenactments would have survived much longer. They too would be declared political incorrect and protested and shut down because the rebel uniforms and flags are far too problematic and each one constitutes a milliaggression (1000 microaggressions) against marginalized POC and probably the LGBTQRS7TU&V community also.
CNN market share? Trump and Trump supporters haven't really called for many boycotts. I think the entire boycott thing is a red herring, but as I noted there do exist counter examples.
Not directly related, but ESPN's ratings have tanked since they started injecting leftist politics into their sports coverage. I don't know if that's a rejection of their political stance or simply because the entire point of bread and circuses is to distract from politics. If the circus gets political you might as well just watch actual politics. Same thing with Marvel Comics sales tanking every time they replace an established white male hero who fights space monsters with a transethnic trigendered demimexican that fights against mansplaining or whatever.
Yes, and you know what we did to those immigrants? We beat and derided them until they became Americans. We didn't pander to them and give them free shit.
I for open borders, but only after we: 1) Remove the federal welfare system completely
Yes, the whole "nation of immigrants" rhetoric doesn't really work in the presence of the welfare state. During the times we were taking in the tired and the poor and everything, it was European immigrants who were likely to share a similar culture and set of beliefs to the people already here, and there was a vast, empty country to fill. It was "hey, welcome to America. Now go west until you find some place to squat and either build something to feed yourself, starve, or fuck off back to Europe." And an awful lot of them did fuck off back to Europe because they couldn't make it in America. Now it's "we're going to tax you so we can give money to Catholic Charities to import Somali muslims to set up in Section 8 housing next to you. And we're going to tax you to feed and house them, and if you complain about the crime and terror threats we'll call you names because we've found one who's a doctor or something and we put him on TV so that means they're all doctors you racist."
An Executive Order is just an order from the executive telling the workers in the executive branch how to implement policies the President has been authorized by congress to make. So Congress via the Immigration and Nationality Act has authorized the president to ban any class of foreigners he wants from coming to the US. Trump could say "no left-handed lesbian mormon eskimo transmidgets" and it would be perfectly legal and constitutional.
8 U.S.C. 1182(f).
Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.
So, the power was granted by Congress, and Trump has simply issued an executive order stating that he's wielding this power to ban the class of aliens defined as people from these 7 countries, for 90 days, because security risks while they figure out how to vet them. There is nothing illegal or unconstitutional about it, lots of presidents have issued similar orders, and courts have always found in favor of the President's authority when challenged. The judge who approved the halt had no arguments besides "muh feelings" and it will almost certainly be overturned.
There's nothing unreasonable about stopping the entry of Somalis when we have no way of knowing who the fuck they are because Somalia has no function government that can provide us with records. Lefties and the media (but I repeat myself) are apoplectic because they knee jerk oppose anything Trump does. If Trump said "air is good and people should breathe it, believe me" the left would suffocate themselves to death. Come to think of it, Trump should tweet just that.
The vast majority of Republicans on TV are token. If you look up the origin of neoconservatism it's ex-trotskyites who love foreign wars. Like Bill Kristol's dad. Democrats love these "reasonable" Republicans because they basically agree with them in everything but measure. So CNN's "fair, balanced panel" will be "Democrat Lefty McCommie and Republican Rino McNeocon who both agree Trump is dangerous and unhinged for not wanting to import the entire third world into America."
Well, yes, intelligent people see him for the Dunning-Kruger charlatan that he is, so even when his policies are advantageous
I love the "Trump is stupid" meme. The guy is a billionaire who smashed two political dynasties, the Republican party, the Democratic party and the entire media establishment with a hat and a twitter feed. But you're the smart guy.
I know you people still feel like losers, even after your political tantrum was successful, so it must really stick in your craw when Trump is thwarted. You're just going to have to learn to live with it. The President is not a king and he must answer to a wide variety of power that challenges his own - and his only originates from and is limited by the Constitution.
The injunction issued by a whiny, politically motivated judge whose argument was nothing but "my fee-fees!" is not going to stand. The power to halt the entry of any class of alien for whatever reason is a power that has been granted to the President by Congress, and there are piles and piles of case law and precedent that show that it will stand. Sorry, but the Somali ghettos you love so much will have their growth hampered by a measly 90 days and you're going to have to learn to live with it.
You might want to consider why right-wing boycotts and protests usually amount to nothing more than providing material to comedians
1. Import people with a wide variety of incompatible cultures to your country.
2. Actively discourage assimilation by promoting multiculturalism and denouncing any criticism of the incompatible culture as "racism."
3. When violence inevitably occurs, demand expanded police and surveillance powers to maintain "stability."
You lose your culture, are forced to live next to people who are at best indifferent to you and at worst want to kill you, lose your civil rights and get a police state, too. What's not to love?
Oh please, you say that now, but during the campaigns the left calls everyone they disagree with a nazi. And now they're normalizing "punching nazis" and after the riots at the Milo event (and Milo is absolutely nowhere near a nazi...he mainly just thinks just feminism and identity politics are stupid) the leftist """intellectuals""" are all over twitter supporting the riots. The gameplan seems to be:
1. It's okay to punch nazis.
2. I get to decide who's a nazi.
3. Anyone who doesn't agree with me is a nazi.
Trump isn't Hitler This will end very badly if the left doesn't snap out of their hallucinations that they're living in 1930s Germany. If the left wants to normalize political violence, they need to look at the lay of the land and see they cannot win. They're a bunch of pink haired landwhales and flabby nu-males who are terrified of guns and they're packed into the cities. The right have the countrysides, the farms, the police, most of the veterans and military, the rednecks, the gun nuts, etc. There is a reason they're only rioting in the deep blue cities. It would not work out well for them if they tried that shit in my comfy red state.
Oh yes liberals FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE. 47 genders race is a social construct genetics aren't real gays are born that way show you the gay gene? haha no way homophobe and 97% of scientists say we should send all our money to 3rd world fuckers to save the planet! But no, no, it's the right wingers who are the ones who make shit up to fit their delusions. Right.
"Alternative facts" is a legal term: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... Kelly Anne was a lawyer. They are just a different set of facts that support an alternative narrative, but you want to pretend like everything the Trump admin says in a lie and the NY Times and CNN are good boys who would never tell a fib. No.
The H1-B visa people are restricted from getting other employment while they're here are they not? Essentially the job market is walled off from them, and they are indentured servants. This artificially keeps their wages (and thereby competing wages) low.
There is no free market. The government is making choices, and some choices benefit labor, and some choices benefit capital. You act as though the choices that benefit labor are artificial and the ones that benefit capital are natural, when they're all artificial.
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*and recognizes the existence and validity of contrary or divergent opinions.*
That sounds nice but doesn't work that way in practice, as political opportunists will use "tolerance" of behavior unacceptable to the dominant culture to declare such objections invalid. For instance, I'm opposed to illegal immigration because:
1) My culture values rule of law, and illegal immigrants are breaking the law.
2) The immigrants are exploited for cheap labor by greedy businesses who pay them below the minimum wage, do not follow labor protection laws, and keep them in line by threatening them with deportation. My culture values fair play and again, rule of law.
3) Some of the illegal immigrants commit crimes against my countrymen that would not have occurred if they had not been allowed in the country. My culture values justice, believes the purpose of government is to serve citizens and betrays them by refusing to enforce the laws passed to protect them, and values the lives of countrymen over the economic interest of foreigners and businesses.
4) 80% of the central American women and girls who cross the border illegally are raped during the crossing. My culture finds rape abhorrent and wants these crimes stopped by securing the border so people can only cross in a safe and authorized manner.
However, according to the media (coincidentally owned by businesses that profit from illegal immigration), I'm lying about each of these points, they are not valid opinions, and in fact I simply have an irrational, deranged hatred of Mexicans because I am an entity of pure evil wrapped in human flesh.
So your vision of multiculturalism doesn't matter when the only people who are chastised and told to "understand" the other cultures is the dominant culture.
Were the people from those cultures incompatible with American culture, though? And weren't they treated like shit until they adapted themselves to American culture?
Compare and contrast with importing Islamic culture, which goes to war with every other culture it encounters including itself, and then a significant portion of our people who bend over backwards to avoid criticizing them or making them feel as if they need to change in any way.
8 U.S.C. 1182(f).
Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.
The president has been granted by Congress to ban the entry of all lesbian left-handed eskimo transmidgets. Any aliens or any class of aliens. So there's absolutely no problem with banning people from 7 specific countries for 90 days, correct? So you would agree, I'm not babbling?
I was just making a reference to the stupid Facebook movie. I don't actually give a fuck, asshole.
If the independent board committee wanted to run Facebook then it should have invented Facebook.
But if all you need is some to start rioting to get rid of the problem...
But you'll notice all they did was arrest the 200 or so people who were actually rioting and causing property damage. They torched a muslim immigrant's limo he rented out, they beat the shit out of a trash bin and set it on fire (I'm assuming it was Adolf Binler, the most evil and racist trash bin of all time), etc. Those people got arrested. The hundreds of thousands or millions of other people peacefully waving signs and chanting were unmolested. So, no problem then, right? Arrest people who torch cars, leave people who wave signs? All good?
That's why the masks are a good idea.
They wore masks for the rioting. This is an investigation into the few hundred people who were arrested for assault, vandalism, destruction of property, etc. Nothing to do with the hundreds of thousands or millions of people who peacefully waved signs, marched and chanted.
I agree with everything you said. But understand in this case we're talking about warrants issued for people who were arrested for rioting, not protesting. There were hundreds of thousands or even millions if you count the nationwide pussy march thing who peaceful protested, chanted, waved signs, etc. There were about 200 rioters who assaulted people, smashed property, torched cars, beat the hell out of a trash bin (???). These are crimes, and you don't have a right to do these things. And since it seems these people were identically dressed and coordinated their actions. An investigation into organized violence is completely reasonable.
It's not a "game" where you get to "win" if you check off enough of the "rules."
Well it is the way I do it.
Yes. We not liberty, not money.
Canada has a highly selective immigration system, unlike the United States. Also soon "Canadian" culture will be Chinese.
will be allowed to keep civil war reenactments
The political pendulum is swinging back to the right, but if it had gone any further left I seriously doubt civil war reenactments would have survived much longer. They too would be declared political incorrect and protested and shut down because the rebel uniforms and flags are far too problematic and each one constitutes a milliaggression (1000 microaggressions) against marginalized POC and probably the LGBTQRS7TU&V community also.
CNN market share? Trump and Trump supporters haven't really called for many boycotts. I think the entire boycott thing is a red herring, but as I noted there do exist counter examples.
Not directly related, but ESPN's ratings have tanked since they started injecting leftist politics into their sports coverage. I don't know if that's a rejection of their political stance or simply because the entire point of bread and circuses is to distract from politics. If the circus gets political you might as well just watch actual politics. Same thing with Marvel Comics sales tanking every time they replace an established white male hero who fights space monsters with a transethnic trigendered demimexican that fights against mansplaining or whatever.
Yes, and you know what we did to those immigrants? We beat and derided them until they became Americans. We didn't pander to them and give them free shit.
I for open borders, but only after we: 1) Remove the federal welfare system completely
Yes, the whole "nation of immigrants" rhetoric doesn't really work in the presence of the welfare state. During the times we were taking in the tired and the poor and everything, it was European immigrants who were likely to share a similar culture and set of beliefs to the people already here, and there was a vast, empty country to fill. It was "hey, welcome to America. Now go west until you find some place to squat and either build something to feed yourself, starve, or fuck off back to Europe." And an awful lot of them did fuck off back to Europe because they couldn't make it in America. Now it's "we're going to tax you so we can give money to Catholic Charities to import Somali muslims to set up in Section 8 housing next to you. And we're going to tax you to feed and house them, and if you complain about the crime and terror threats we'll call you names because we've found one who's a doctor or something and we put him on TV so that means they're all doctors you racist."
An Executive Order is just an order from the executive telling the workers in the executive branch how to implement policies the President has been authorized by congress to make. So Congress via the Immigration and Nationality Act has authorized the president to ban any class of foreigners he wants from coming to the US. Trump could say "no left-handed lesbian mormon eskimo transmidgets" and it would be perfectly legal and constitutional.
8 U.S.C. 1182(f).
Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.
So, the power was granted by Congress, and Trump has simply issued an executive order stating that he's wielding this power to ban the class of aliens defined as people from these 7 countries, for 90 days, because security risks while they figure out how to vet them. There is nothing illegal or unconstitutional about it, lots of presidents have issued similar orders, and courts have always found in favor of the President's authority when challenged. The judge who approved the halt had no arguments besides "muh feelings" and it will almost certainly be overturned.
There's nothing unreasonable about stopping the entry of Somalis when we have no way of knowing who the fuck they are because Somalia has no function government that can provide us with records. Lefties and the media (but I repeat myself) are apoplectic because they knee jerk oppose anything Trump does. If Trump said "air is good and people should breathe it, believe me" the left would suffocate themselves to death. Come to think of it, Trump should tweet just that.
The vast majority of Republicans on TV are token. If you look up the origin of neoconservatism it's ex-trotskyites who love foreign wars. Like Bill Kristol's dad. Democrats love these "reasonable" Republicans because they basically agree with them in everything but measure. So CNN's "fair, balanced panel" will be "Democrat Lefty McCommie and Republican Rino McNeocon who both agree Trump is dangerous and unhinged for not wanting to import the entire third world into America."
Well, yes, intelligent people see him for the Dunning-Kruger charlatan that he is, so even when his policies are advantageous
I love the "Trump is stupid" meme. The guy is a billionaire who smashed two political dynasties, the Republican party, the Democratic party and the entire media establishment with a hat and a twitter feed. But you're the smart guy.
I know you people still feel like losers, even after your political tantrum was successful, so it must really stick in your craw when Trump is thwarted. You're just going to have to learn to live with it. The President is not a king and he must answer to a wide variety of power that challenges his own - and his only originates from and is limited by the Constitution.
The injunction issued by a whiny, politically motivated judge whose argument was nothing but "my fee-fees!" is not going to stand. The power to halt the entry of any class of alien for whatever reason is a power that has been granted to the President by Congress, and there are piles and piles of case law and precedent that show that it will stand. Sorry, but the Somali ghettos you love so much will have their growth hampered by a measly 90 days and you're going to have to learn to live with it.
You might want to consider why right-wing boycotts and protests usually amount to nothing more than providing material to comedians
See Macy's stock over the last year?
1. Import people with a wide variety of incompatible cultures to your country.
2. Actively discourage assimilation by promoting multiculturalism and denouncing any criticism of the incompatible culture as "racism."
3. When violence inevitably occurs, demand expanded police and surveillance powers to maintain "stability."
You lose your culture, are forced to live next to people who are at best indifferent to you and at worst want to kill you, lose your civil rights and get a police state, too. What's not to love?
How is Trump authoritarian in any way Obama was not?
Oh please, you say that now, but during the campaigns the left calls everyone they disagree with a nazi. And now they're normalizing "punching nazis" and after the riots at the Milo event (and Milo is absolutely nowhere near a nazi...he mainly just thinks just feminism and identity politics are stupid) the leftist """intellectuals""" are all over twitter supporting the riots. The gameplan seems to be:
1. It's okay to punch nazis.
2. I get to decide who's a nazi.
3. Anyone who doesn't agree with me is a nazi.
Trump isn't Hitler This will end very badly if the left doesn't snap out of their hallucinations that they're living in 1930s Germany. If the left wants to normalize political violence, they need to look at the lay of the land and see they cannot win. They're a bunch of pink haired landwhales and flabby nu-males who are terrified of guns and they're packed into the cities. The right have the countrysides, the farms, the police, most of the veterans and military, the rednecks, the gun nuts, etc. There is a reason they're only rioting in the deep blue cities. It would not work out well for them if they tried that shit in my comfy red state.
We spend more per pupil than anyone in the world. Maybe it's being misspent?
Oh yes liberals FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE. 47 genders race is a social construct genetics aren't real gays are born that way show you the gay gene? haha no way homophobe and 97% of scientists say we should send all our money to 3rd world fuckers to save the planet! But no, no, it's the right wingers who are the ones who make shit up to fit their delusions. Right.
"Alternative facts" is a legal term: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... Kelly Anne was a lawyer. They are just a different set of facts that support an alternative narrative, but you want to pretend like everything the Trump admin says in a lie and the NY Times and CNN are good boys who would never tell a fib. No.
The H1-B visa people are restricted from getting other employment while they're here are they not? Essentially the job market is walled off from them, and they are indentured servants. This artificially keeps their wages (and thereby competing wages) low.
There is no free market. The government is making choices, and some choices benefit labor, and some choices benefit capital. You act as though the choices that benefit labor are artificial and the ones that benefit capital are natural, when they're all artificial.