Re:ACLU apply their standards *very* unevenly
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> The modern constitutional doctrine
The 1972 Roe vs Wade Supreme Court decision says that, yes. As you've pointed out, the "viability" distinction is neither good biology nor good logic. If we indeed have doubts as to when a baby becomes a person, wouldn't it be better to err on the side of safety?
> The majority of Americans now support abortion
I'll spare you the tedious references to Germany 1937. Might does not make right, nor does an erring majority.
> protecting the rights of mothers at the > cost of unviable fetus' rights
Close. It's at the cost of babies' lives. And it puzzles me that the life of a baby can be seen as less valuable than the "right to privacy" of that baby's mother.
Re:ACLU apply their standards *very* unevenly
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> after birth it is living on its own. (Of course > , in practice, the mom usually takes care of > the baby after birth, too!)
His point exactly. A 2 day old baby won't survive if left on its own either, but that doesn't mean we should kill it.
> we need to make that distinction > somewhere [...] Pre-conception is hopeless
Of course.
> we understand that moment well biologically > and know it to be really just cells dividing
Hm. Doesn't "just cells dividing" apply to every other moment of life as well?
> post-conception the division sometimes > results in twins
Why does this present a problem for the "life as conception" argument? Just because we don't know exactly how many babies are there doesn't mean we should kill them.
Right on. I run RubyForge on commodity hardware - 2.4 GHz CPU, IDE, 512 MB RAM. It handles an average of 24K hits per day plus a couple hundred emails plus CVS and SSH, no problem. If you know even a little bit about what you're doing, low end hardware can take you a long way.
Lyndsay: Why not both, then everybody's happy. Comic Book Guy: Oh yeah, everyone's real happy then. Lyndsay: Do I detect a note of sarcasm? Frink: Are you kidding me, this baby's off the charts. CBG: Oooh a sarcasm detector, that's a real useful invention. (detector explodes)
One could find links either way on that one, I daresay.
> I'm 99% convinced Hiroshima was unnecessary.
Fair enough; I disagree.
> but blaming my own cultural history >(as a European) rather than others.
Is blaming a prerequisite to improvement?
> such and such a thing is worse so don't > point any fingers at me
Hm. I agree, that doesn't seem to be a good attitude. On the other hand, doesn't criticising one system while ignoring the depredations of another constitute an argument by selective observation?
> There is no doubt in my mind that the > worst pillages of nature have all been > initiated in the minds and by the greed > of the western capitalist system,
What MicroCenter does have - at least the one outside the beltway on Rt 29 - is an _excellent_ book selection. They've got everything from compiler theory to Java in 21 Days to Game Programming Gems. It's definitely worth a visit.
As a govt contractor for a small company paid to support govt projects, I am also allowed to work on open source projects. Since I work for a small company with no overhead, my workstation is a 2 CPU Linux box with 2 GB of RAM which I purchased after my boss' only guidelines were to "keep it under $5K".
I agree wholeheartedly with your analysis of the suggested Dept of Software foulness, but pls recognize that some good OSS gets written under govt auspices, and it can work out well for everyone.
I had the "ASP in a Nutshell" book in a previous job. It was very useful - the floor in my office sagged a bit, so I put the book on the floor under my bookcase to keep it level. It was the perfect size and served me well for over a year in that capacity.
Re:Former perl, python, java geek gone to Ruby
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> perhaps the Ruby version of *Forge can be > hosted and developed on the non-Ruby version > of *Forge
Sure, no reason why not if someone's interested in doing that. In the meantime, though, we'll continue to keep enhancing and improving GForge via suggestions collected on RubyForge and other GForge installations.
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> The modern constitutional doctrine
The 1972 Roe vs Wade Supreme Court decision says that, yes. As you've pointed out, the "viability" distinction is neither good biology nor good logic. If we indeed have doubts as to when a baby becomes a person, wouldn't it be better to err on the side of safety?
> The majority of Americans now support abortion
I'll spare you the tedious references to Germany 1937. Might does not make right, nor does an erring majority.
> protecting the rights of mothers at the
> cost of unviable fetus' rights
Close. It's at the cost of babies' lives. And it puzzles me that the life of a baby can be seen as less valuable than the "right to privacy" of that baby's mother.
> after birth it is living on its own. (Of course
> , in practice, the mom usually takes care of
> the baby after birth, too!)
His point exactly. A 2 day old baby won't survive if left on its own either, but that doesn't mean we should kill it.
> we need to make that distinction
> somewhere [...] Pre-conception is hopeless
Of course.
> we understand that moment well biologically
> and know it to be really just cells dividing
Hm. Doesn't "just cells dividing" apply to every other moment of life as well?
> post-conception the division sometimes
> results in twins
Why does this present a problem for the "life as conception" argument? Just because we don't know exactly how many babies are there doesn't mean we should kill them.
Right on. I run RubyForge on commodity hardware - 2.4 GHz CPU, IDE, 512 MB RAM. It handles an average of 24K hits per day plus a couple hundred emails plus CVS and SSH, no problem. If you know even a little bit about what you're doing, low end hardware can take you a long way.
Awesome, dude! We've got a 3 yr old, 2 yr old twins, and a new little girl 3 weeks old.
:-)
Now you have to ask yourself, what's your child count progression going to be like? You've got:
2,1
so far. What's next?
2,1,2
Maybe. For us, we've got:
1,2,1
So we're expecting either:
1,2,1,2
or:
1,2,1,3
Only time will tell
> father of 3 kids under 18 months
:-)
4 kids under 4 years old for me. You must have twins too
> Far better that we do nothing
Lyndsay: Why not both, then everybody's happy.
Comic Book Guy: Oh yeah, everyone's real happy then.
Lyndsay: Do I detect a note of sarcasm?
Frink: Are you kidding me, this baby's off the charts.
CBG: Oooh a sarcasm detector, that's a real useful invention.
(detector explodes)
"Here's to paying guests!"
> I was making a subjective superlative claim
Hm, fair enough. You're right, debates tend to expand too quickly at times and lose their original focus.
FWIW, your point that "blame-shifting is not a good attitude" is well taken.
> it's been an interesting debate
I agree, thanks for the thoughtful replies!
> Nagasaki was unnecessary
One could find links either way on that one, I daresay.
> I'm 99% convinced Hiroshima was unnecessary.
Fair enough; I disagree.
> but blaming my own cultural history
>(as a European) rather than others.
Is blaming a prerequisite to improvement?
> such and such a thing is worse so don't
> point any fingers at me
Hm. I agree, that doesn't seem to be a good attitude. On the other hand, doesn't criticising one system while ignoring the depredations of another constitute an argument by selective observation?
> damaged rather more of other countries'
> lands than their own
Er, are we still talking about the USSR?
> launched the only agressive attack on
> another nation
At the risk of stating the obvious, WW II was proceeding at that point in time.
> denying that there is an environmental
> problem and rejecting the
> Kyoto treaty
The Kyoto treaty is both ineffectual and irrelevant.
> the worst pillages
Superlative duly noted, but you're merely restating your argument, not providing evidence for its validity.
> There is no doubt in my mind that the
> worst pillages of nature have all been
> initiated in the minds and by the greed
> of the western capitalist system,
Hm. You might find the destruction of Lake Baikal and other environmental disasters under Communism to be interesting data points.
> Look, your stock's down
The stock price for today is interesting. Up a bit initially, then back down as the excitement fades.
Begone, SCO!
The Asia Open Source Center has news, polls, and such-like for that very topic.
...can be found here.
Yet another GForge installation!
What MicroCenter does have - at least the one outside the beltway on Rt 29 - is an _excellent_ book selection. They've got everything from compiler theory to Java in 21 Days to Game Programming Gems. It's definitely worth a visit.
The flip side:
As a govt contractor for a small company paid to support govt projects, I am also allowed to work on open source projects. Since I work for a small company with no overhead, my workstation is a 2 CPU Linux box with 2 GB of RAM which I purchased after my boss' only guidelines were to "keep it under $5K".
I agree wholeheartedly with your analysis of the suggested Dept of Software foulness, but pls recognize that some good OSS gets written under govt auspices, and it can work out well for everyone.
Ditto for the PMD Java unused code finder. And also GForge, which is indirectly supported by DARPA since DARPA runs CougaarForge.
> the brand Austin Powers endorses
"I don't even know what this is! This sort of thing ain't my bag, baby!"
I had the "ASP in a Nutshell" book in a previous job. It was very useful - the floor in my office sagged a bit, so I put the book on the floor under my bookcase to keep it level. It was the perfect size and served me well for over a year in that capacity.
Here's a comparison of Ruby and Python.
And a mirror on RubyForge.
The OSX theme comes with GForge. RubyForge could just as easily look like this or this. Just a configuration option...
Good idea, I've entered a feature request on the GForge core project here.
Thanks,
Tom
Yeah, so far I've been promoting news items to the front page based on a project either
1) doing a new release
or
2) importing code into the project for the first time.
Not sure how we'll do front page news promotion in the future....
> other projects can get hosted today
Exactly.
> perhaps the Ruby version of *Forge can be
> hosted and developed on the non-Ruby version
> of *Forge
Sure, no reason why not if someone's interested in doing that. In the meantime, though, we'll continue to keep enhancing and improving GForge via suggestions collected on RubyForge and other GForge installations.