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Robots for Air Force Protection

Roland Piquepaille writes "During a demonstration held in San Antonio on August 6, twelve robots intended to protect bases and people were shown to Air Force security directors and to 230 other security professionals. In "Robots display force-protection prowess," Air Force Link tells us the story. "Demonstrations included one robot that crawled up walls and across ceilings, another that clambered over rocks with six rotating legs and a third that wriggled like a snake through a pipe." This summary contains more details, including photos of the "Wall Crawler" climbing a wall and of Hexapod, a robot with six rotating legs walking over a pile of rocks."

251 comments

  1. Military Robots by umrgregg · · Score: 3, Funny

    These new gadgets are all well and good, just don't let them be outside during a thunder storm.

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    1. Re:Military Robots by IFF123 · · Score: 5, Funny

      and don't mod their OS with counterstrike.
      (I can see it now: a six-legged robot jumping up and down and screaming FRAG MODE ACTIVATED!!!)

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    2. Re:Military Robots by ddimas · · Score: 3, Funny

      Aren't their model numbers T-1 and T-2?

    3. Re:Military Robots by SomeGuyFromCA · · Score: 1

      Nah, AT-AT...

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    4. Re:Military Robots by HaloZero · · Score: 1

      'She may look cute and cuddly, but deep down in there she's hardcore Green Beret.' - Gallagher (Val Kilmer), Red Planet, referring to AMEE.

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    5. Re:Military Robots by Guru2Newbie · · Score: 0
      Col. Tommy Col. Dillard quoted

      "Robotics, we think, can enhance our ability to protect our installations, people and resources," Dillard said. "One of the things we want, and have asked the industry to do, is to be able not only to detect (with robots) but to start a neutralization phase before we can get response forces out there.

      Army Commander: "Hey, great! It "neutralized" all the bad guys. Now let's just pick up the robots and put 'em back in the truck. Uh, hey why are they aiming at US? We're the good guys!"

      Robots, in MP3-quality, 16-part harmony: "KILL ALL HUMANS, er, NEUTRALIZATION PHASE IN PROGRESS!" *FRAG*FRAG*FRAG*

      Army Commander: "What?! ALL humans? Who the hell programmed this?!"

      Army Geek (via radio, in secure bunker): "You did, Sir. Your exact words, Sir, were, and I quote, 'Program the suckers to blast the holy hell out of--I mean--neutralize anyone it sees.' You could just press the big red OFF button in the middle of their back. If you can get that close."

      Army Commander: "Oh, crap."

      Robots: *FRAG*FRAG*FRAG* *FRAG*FRAG*FRAG*

      Army Commander: "ARRGH URG ugggh gurgle....thunk"

      Robots: "SC0RE: HUMANS: 0, R0BOTS: 50. W00_H00! W0ULD Y0U L1KE T0 PLAY AGA1N?"

      Army Geek (via radio, in secure bunker): "Heh-heh, stupid humans. They can kiss my shiny metal, err, my hairy-over-metal ass."

    6. Re:Military Robots by st0rmshad0w · · Score: 1

      No, ED-209....

  2. A small victory by BMonger · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now we just need to get the rabbit/human hybrid to be for Air Force Protection. Then the aliens will have to give in!

  3. JOHNNY FIVE by n1ywb · · Score: 3, Funny

    So when do the bolts of lightning cause the robots to become adorible artificially intelligent friendly meddling do gooders?

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    1. Re:JOHNNY FIVE by mark-t · · Score: 1
      Never.

      Ever watched that movie or its sequel recently? The technologies they allegedly used are laughable.

      J5's memory and hard drive were absurdly small by today's standards, and there's no possible way that such a system could even begin to display properties of genuine intelligence.

    2. Re:JOHNNY FIVE by G-funk · · Score: 3, Funny

      NO! GET OUT!

      This just in... The film "short circuit" does not show scientific reality.

      In other news, scientists believe that killer time-travelling machines probably could not run on 6502 processors running command-line enhancement software typed in from an old copy of "Nibble".

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    3. Re:JOHNNY FIVE by mark-t · · Score: 1
      I wasn't talking about special effects, or any subliminal visual cues, I was talking about statements that were made that were actually embedded into the movie. Heck, J5 didn't even have an entire single gigabyte of hard drive space, and my pocket calculator has more RAM than J5 did.

      IMO, the writers would have been smarter to have left such specifics out of the script entirely. They date the movies (quite badly IMO) and make it all the more difficult to suspend disbelief in order to enjoy the story.

      My 2c

    4. Re:JOHNNY FIVE by pogle · · Score: 1

      Really though...suspension of belief is required to enjoy any movie, technologically based or not. We might laugh about inaccuracies and impossibilities after the fact, but remembering the era its from, and what was impressive then, its not such a big deal. Gotta take it in context.

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    5. Re:JOHNNY FIVE by sharkey · · Score: 1
      Ever watched that movie or its sequel recently? The technologies they allegedly used are laughable.

      No kidding! A Colt .45 Semi-Automatic. Was there EVER REALLY such a gun? And a "Huey". A flying Huey. That is BEYOND ABSURD! Only birds can fly. Machines are just too heavy. And don't forget the absurd "bath-room". Imagine, people bathing INSIDE THE HOUSE!

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    6. Re:JOHNNY FIVE by IM6100 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Heck, J5 didn't even have an entire single gigabyte of hard drive space, and my pocket calculator has more RAM than J5 did.

      Yes, but your pocket calculator is probably programmed in C++ or some other hideously inefficient programming language. A gigabyte of storage is actually one hell of a lot of space. 64M of RAM is more than enough for a hell of a lot of optimized assembly code and compressed data.

      Remember, the huge amounts of RAM and storage in hardware these days is to follow the Microsoft Model of software development: Roll in crap to fill all available storage. Some of us still (believe it or not) feel that software development is convergent. That means: as software gets better and more sophisticated, it should be implementing more functionality while consuming less resources. i.e.: the 486 with 16 megs of RAM that I used to run Slackware on should be BETTER at running the latest Slackware, not worse.

      But I'm an optomist. For some reason eye candy is easer to shove into a system than actual increased functionality. So we have shit like GNOME now, not new-improved FVWM3 or FVWM4.

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    7. Re:JOHNNY FIVE by mark-t · · Score: 1
      Yes, but your pocket calculator is probably programmed in C++ or some other hideously inefficient programming language
      C, actually.
    8. Re:JOHNNY FIVE by carlos_benj · · Score: 1

      Johnny five IS alive. He's running a stripped down version of Linux and was programmed to speak like Linus, so he calls himself Yanni.

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  4. I had one of those cieling crawling robots... by raehl · · Score: 4, Funny

    But I had to get rid of it, kept shitting on guests.

    1. Re:I had one of those cieling crawling robots... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wish I had a mod point for you... classic funny.

  5. You have twenty seconds to comply... by trveler · · Score: 1

    I'm waiting to see ED-209.

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    1. Re:You have twenty seconds to comply... by xanadu-xtroot.com · · Score: 1

      I'd buy that for a dollar!

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  6. Bah, '80s technology! by RobertB-DC · · Score: 4, Funny

    I saw a documentary on this subject back in the '80s. As I recall, the all-terrain robots were quite impressive, but subject to major, non-reversable programming glitches when subjected to large electro-magnetic fields (such as lightning strikes).

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    1. Re:Bah, '80s technology! by The+Other+White+Boy · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      i can't freakin believe this god modded as Interesting. I wish I could mod moderations as Funny.

    2. Re:Bah, '80s technology! by The+Other+White+Boy · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      err, got modded. keyboard moved under my hands.

    3. Re:Bah, '80s technology! by RobertB-DC · · Score: 1

      I can't freakin believe this got modded as Interesting. I wish I could mod moderations as Funny.

      I 'bout fell out of my chair when I saw the moderations coming in. Not just once, but twice before the first Funny, resulting in (at least for the moment) a "+5, Interesting" for a Short Circuit reference.

      Fortunately for the M1s, the M2s probably won't follow the link, either.

      Shotgun Moderation... gotta love it.

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    4. Re:Bah, '80s technology! by The+Other+White+Boy · · Score: 0

      my hats off to you man, that was the best 'fished in' moment ive seen in quite a while. =)

    5. Re:Bah, '80s technology! by InOverMyFeet · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I would imagine that the average soldier complete with the "Land Warrior" system holding his/her M4 machine gun (read lightning rod) is also subject to large electro-magnetic fields (such as lightning strikes).

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    6. Re:Bah, '80s technology! by dR.fuZZo · · Score: 1

      but subject to major, non-reversable programming glitches when subjected to large electro-magnetic fields (such as lightning strikes).

      But then again, so are humans.

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    7. Re:Bah, '80s technology! by The+Other+White+Boy · · Score: 1

      i still can't explain how entertained i am by the replies and mods this post is getting. this is the most fun i've had on /. in months.

    8. Re:Bah, '80s technology! by AtariAmarok · · Score: 1

      Don't forget the legacy 1970s technology in which the robots were programmed by inserting 8-track tapes in their square-slot mouths...

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    9. Re:Bah, '80s technology! by sam_handelman · · Score: 1

      When struck by lightning, killer robots reprogram themselves and turn into peacenick hippies. This has been known for some time.

      The problem with this phenomena is that it leads to Steve Guttenberg being cast in other movies; something we as a nation cannot afford!

      So, please, stop these killer robots before Hollywood's movies become that much worse.

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    10. Re:Bah, '80s technology! by RobertB-DC · · Score: 1

      It's getting better and better. After getting a couple of "Overrated" wimp-out mods (and losing the Karma Bonus), the has-a-clue "Funny" mods are now tied with the what-were-they-smoking "Interesting" mods. Unfortunately, the total has now dropped to 3, but it's still (mystifyingly) "Interesting".

      I did read, though, that some moderators now give out "Interesting" instead of "Funny", because "Funny" doesn't give you Karma anymore. Somehow, I don't think that's the case here.

      Other mods out of the woodwork: the factual description of lightning's effects got modded Funny. Huh? I think the moderator meant that mod for the one below it ("the other 20% develop superpowers").

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    11. Re:Bah, '80s technology! by IM6100 · · Score: 1

      What really really clogs up the discussions on this website are tards like you who use your +2 default to spew offtopic crap about 'moderation issues', and then are even lame enough to spam us with corrections to the typos in your offtopic blather with your +2 default.

      There really needs to be a way for 'the moderation system' to slap crap like that down hard, i.e. make you lose your +2 posting privledges for not having a CLUE that moderation is about improving comment quality, NOT a little contest to boost ego and give out cookies to the best commenters.

      Yikes. There's my meta-meta off-topic rant-about-moderation.

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    12. Re:Bah, '80s technology! by The+Other+White+Boy · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      i actually meant to post the correction anonymously. however, your little diatribe took up more room than both my posts combined, only to reiterate the point i was making, which is that the moderation system is broken. it's not my fault nobody modded it offtopic.

      christ, calm down.

    13. Re:Bah, '80s technology! by RobertB-DC · · Score: 1

      ... the moderation system is broken. it's not my fault nobody modded it offtopic.

      I wouldn't say that the moderation system is broken... just that it's amusing to watch in the same way that the California recall elections are amusing to watch. As long as nothing important is at stake. [smirk]

      Really, though, I think it works. It's not perfect, nor should it be -- just like the old quote about democracy not being perfect, just better than anything else we've come up with. A "perfect" moderation system would function about as effectively as Soviet-style communism: fair to all in theory, but completely unworkable in the real world.

      And hey, sometimes I, too, forget to check "No Karma Bonus" when I post. So sue me! No, SCO, not you.

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    14. Re:Bah, '80s technology! by some+guy+I+know · · Score: 0
      What really really clogs up the discussions on this website are tards like you who use your +2 default to spew offtopic crap ...
      That was really informative.
      Why didn't you use your +2 modifier when you posted?
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  7. Cool, but ... by Rolo+Tomasi · · Score: 5, Informative

    Cool stuff, but I think these would be much more intimidating to potential attackers (check out the videos). :)

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    1. Re:Cool, but ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The S5 looks too real.. Freaky

    2. Re:Cool, but ... by tchapin · · Score: 1

      Do you mean "stupid man-suit" or "stupid-man suit"?

      Todd

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    3. Re:Cool, but ... by Fishstick · · Score: 1

      why are you wearing that stupid rabbit suit?

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  8. And as always.. by Jeppe+Salvesen · · Score: 2, Informative

    .. what happens when the bad guys get hold of one?

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    1. Re:And as always.. by CowsAnonymous · · Score: 5, Funny
      > .. what happens when the bad guys get hold of one?

      I don't think SCO is in the market for robotics...

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    2. Re:And as always.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am guessing they are remote controlled and have an auto-destruct mechanism.

    3. Re:And as always.. by FroMan · · Score: 1

      Same thing that happens anytime our military loses an item. If it does not get destoryed, the bad guys reverse engineer it. But the good new is that we probably have the next generation of weapon beyond that under the wings.

      The parent is about as insightful as, what happens when a bad guy gets a gun that is left over after a combat.

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    4. Re:And as always.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What if they are running Linux? SCO Robot Linux License: $49,999.99

    5. Re:And as always.. by sharkey · · Score: 1
      I don't think SCO is in the market for robotics...

      Yet. They just own all the IP related to robots, but won't be filing lawsuits for a while.

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  9. Be careful around robots, friends. by TrollBridge · · Score: 4, Funny
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    1. Re:Be careful around robots, friends. by IIRCAFAIKIANAL · · Score: 1

      That's hilarious :) Oh, and sigged!

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  10. Obligatory reference by dcypher_67 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Operator: Main screen turn on.
    Captain: It's You!!
    Cats: How are you gentlemen!!
    Cats: All your base are belong to us.
    Cats: You are on the way to destruction.
    Captain: You'll have to get through my team of Aibos first!!!

  11. time for robot insurance by wwest4 · · Score: 2, Funny

    They eat old peoples' medicine for fuel. As if the prescription drug problem wasn't bad enough...

    1. Re:time for robot insurance by wwest4 · · Score: 1

      how can the first mention of something be redundant? it should be offtopic or troll if anything. stupid geek mods - "if i was thinking it already then it's redundant"

    2. Re:time for robot insurance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      check out the post 2 above yours, yeah only a minute earlier but tough luck, you still fail it so quit whining.

    3. Re:time for robot insurance by wwest4 · · Score: 1

      yep, saw it. oops. oh yeah, and fuck you AC.

  12. Robots? We don't need no stinking robots! by Lane.exe · · Score: 2, Funny
    Haven't these guys been to the movies this year? The ROBOTS are the BAD GUYS! The future GOVERNOR of CALIFORNIA is the good guy! Sheesh!

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    1. Re:Robots? We don't need no stinking robots! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i can picture the robot walking over skulls instead of rocks in my mind

  13. *insert T2 music here* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    On August 6th, 2003 at Lackland AFB, SkyNet became self aware.

    On October 7th, 2003 they elected a Terminator to lead them.

    October 8th, 2003. Judgement day.

    1. Re:*insert T2 music here* by trompete · · Score: 3, Funny

      October 9th, 2003, John Connor scores with his future wife in the bunker, which was his plan all along.

  14. our duty is clear: by Requiem · · Score: 4, Funny

    We must build and maintain those robots.

    1. Re:our duty is clear: by libnatel · · Score: 0

      yeah but this is the air force they dont do battle in space or on top of some high mountain somewhere.

  15. Crush, Kill, Destroy! by B+Ekim · · Score: 0

    These robots are neat as long as they don't turn against their controllers. I'm reminded by the robots from Itchy and Scratchy Land on the Simpsons.

    1. Re:Crush, Kill, Destroy! by Interesting+Username · · Score: 1

      Just don't take any pictures and you'll be fine.

    2. Re:Crush, Kill, Destroy! by dirtydiaper · · Score: 0

      incase you didnt know he is trying to refer to the simpson.. NOW THATS INFORMATIVE...

  16. Pity by Jbrecken · · Score: 2, Funny

    Too bad Battlebots got cancelled.
    These guys could have been contenders.

    1. Re:Pity by hpulley · · Score: 1

      It sounds like these Battlebots can cancel you, and not just in Soviet Russia...

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  17. Wow, 10 posts and nobody's said it... by yotto · · Score: 5, Funny

    I for one welcome our new robot masters.

    1. Re:Wow, 10 posts and nobody's said it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I for one welcome our new robot masters. ...it's overlords you tit.

    2. Re:Wow, 10 posts and nobody's said it... by hplasm · · Score: 1

      "You can both bow down and kiss my shiny metal ass!!"

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  18. Force-protection... by saskwach · · Score: 1

    I think I have that in JKII...force shield or some such.

  19. hell(o) by simgod · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...you better tell arnold to put aside the elections campaign in California, because this is already starting to look like Skynet...

    1. Re:hell(o) by WhytTiger · · Score: 0

      yea... let's just hope they don't activate their new program to eliminate msblast.exe

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  20. Nothing bad could possibly happen by jbfaninmo · · Score: 4, Funny

    Robots to defend our military bases, what could possibly go wrong...

    1. Re:Nothing bad could possibly happen by trompete · · Score: 1

      I for one welcome our new robot masters!

    2. Re:Nothing bad could possibly happen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All your base are ....

    3. Re:Nothing bad could possibly happen by mkldev · · Score: 3, Funny
      I can see the scientist talking next to the disabeld body of the robot sheriff now. Something like:

      "Their guns are designed to sense the heat from your body and refuse to fire. That way, they'll never accidentally kill a tourist."

      "Nothing can possibly go wrong. Nothing can possibly go wrong... go wrong... go wrong.... go wro... go... go... go... go wrong...."

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    4. Re:Nothing bad could possibly happen by BarryJacobsen · · Score: 1

      Well, according to the elementry Chaos Theory, the robots won't go berserk for at least twenty-four hours.

      ...Oh, I forgot to carry the one.

  21. Cool but... by WhytTiger · · Score: 3, Interesting

    These robots look rather cool, but it seems to me that it would be easy to interrupt the radio transmitter controlling these robots. Isn't there a better way to control them (either automate them, or something?)

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    1. Re:Cool but... by th3axe · · Score: 2, Informative
      Sure, you could probably jam the signal, but the problem with doing that is you broadcast your location, and if I was a security chief, I'd be all ready to triangulate on your location(s) and turn you into small bits if I began to detect this sort of interference.

      Besides, these things (at least right now) are designed to protect bases, not go off on their own and do stuff. Autonomus robots are really hard to do, while we can take basic steps with remotes.

      These sorts of things remind me of the Shadowrun sourcebook Corporate ShadowFiles. Lots of interesting ideas in there - rail mounted sentries, flying drones, etc. all linked into a central control center. They were all controlled by a human, but they and some very rudimentary AI were able to secure a large facility. (Yes, I know it's a silly RPG, but the ideas minus the technobabble and cybergear seemed sound.)

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  22. Anyone remember... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  23. A better use for them... by packethead · · Score: 1, Interesting

    infiltration!

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  24. Ben! by mao+che+minh · · Score: 4, Funny
    As long as the Indian guy, Ben, is on the project, I like it.

    Ben Jabituya: I am standing here beside myself.

    1. Re:Ben! by unclepedro · · Score: 5, Informative

      What's interesting, is that Fisher Stevens, the guy who played Ben Jabituya, is not Indian. He's totally pulling an Apu for that role. He's actually from Evanston, IL, but now lives in NYC. Anyway, I think the reason I'm posting this is that it was a shocking realization to me a few years ago to find that out, so fooled was I as a kid watching Short Circuit.

      Oh yeah, and Stevens was in Hackers and Super Mario Bros. And he dated Michelle Pfeiffer.

    2. Re:Ben! by ptbarnett · · Score: 1
      Ben's heritage is a running joke in the movie:

      Newton Crosby: Where are you from, anyway?
      Ben Jabituya: Bakersfield, originally.
      Newton Crosby: No, I mean your ancestors.
      Ben Jabituya: Oh, them. Pittsburgh.

    3. Re:Ben! by unclepedro · · Score: 1

      ha, I'd forgotten about that!

    4. Re:Ben! by unclepedro · · Score: 1

      You know, "jabituya" always made me think of "sockitome" (as in R-E-S-P-E-C-T).

      jabituya, jabituya, jabituya, jabituya!

    5. Re:Ben! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For me it brought more to mind good old ED209:

      Put down the weapon. You have 30 seconds to comply...

      You now have 10 seconds to comply, 9,8,7...

    6. Re:Ben! by GlamdringLFO · · Score: 1

      I thought he was from Pittsburgh...

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  25. Also... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    ...make sure you close your href tags :P

    Sorry folks!

  26. security cameras are for girls. by KReilly · · Score: 1

    Thats it! I can finally get a cooler security system then all you!

    1. Re:security cameras are for girls. by unclepedro · · Score: 1

      ...yes, but only X10 Girls.

  27. Something Left Out by tds67 · · Score: 2, Funny
    Demonstrations included one robot that crawled up walls and across ceilings, another that clambered over rocks with six rotating legs and a third that wriggled like a snake through a pipe.

    The story left out "RoboSlinky (TM)", which patrols stairs, alone or in pairs, and makes a "slinkety" sound. It debuted this Spring.

  28. if you break one of them open... by focitrixilous+P · · Score: 5, Funny

    So, if someone were to fight one of the robots and break it, would it be a DMCA violation as well as a terrorist act?

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    1. Re:if you break one of them open... by jafuser · · Score: 1

      would it be a DMCA violation as well as a terrorist act?

      Some organizations who's abbreviations end with double-vowels may claim that there is no difference between the two.

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  29. Sounds great until by vergil · · Score: 1

    someone flips the switch and cedes control of our robotic protectors to SkyNet ;)

  30. Uh oh. by BiggerIsBetter · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is really scary. They're just begging Skynet to take over! Actually, methinks the military boys saw too many Terminator movies...

    More seriously, if the military becomes heavily dependant on this kind of thing, in the near future, I can envisage being an unlicensed ter^H^H^H hacker becoming a crime punishible by an indefinite term in Guantanamo Bay.

    /obligatory everything is scary post.

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  31. Wallace & Gromit by Mad+Man · · Score: 2, Interesting
    "Demonstrations included one robot that crawled up walls and across ceilings,


    Funny to be reading that while I'm watching, "The Wrong Trousers" right now. (Think of the scene where the evil penguin is forcing Wallace to steal the diamond by walking across the ceiling).
    1. Re:Wallace & Gromit by tcopeland · · Score: 1

      "Here's to paying guests!"

  32. Robot Uses by darkstar949 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The robots were developed for several purposes, including inspections hazardous areas, and bomb detection/disposal. However, they have more uses, because of their mobility they can be used to find victims trapped in narrow areas where a human or rescue dog might not be able to get at. Plus, robots don't complain about their job.

  33. Obligatory Futurama Quote by HaloZero · · Score: 1

    K1LL ALL HUMANS
    K1LL ALL HUMANS
    K1LL ALL HUMANS


    Beep.

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    1. Re:Obligatory Futurama Quote by brakk · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hey, Baby, wanna go kill all the humans?

    2. Re:Obligatory Futurama Quote by borgdows · · Score: 2, Funny

      I prefer this one :

      Bender: "I came here with a simple dream, a dream of killing all humans."

  34. Cool stuff... by glh · · Score: 5, Interesting

    One of the articles linked talked about people currently buying these things:

    People have bought it just the way it is for things like inspecting the fuselage of an aircraft," Wiedeman said.

    We are one step closer to having R2D2! I wonder if the robots can crawl around while the plane is in flight? (Probably not, based on the specs given). Anyway, I think this is pretty interesting. Using these on a space shuttle might not be a bad idea, ie- crawling around outside and inspecting things before take off. And later- making external in-flight repairs...

    1. Re:Cool stuff... by at_kernel_99 · · Score: 2, Informative

      We are one step closer to having R2D2! I wonder if the robots can crawl around while the plane is in flight? (Probably not, based on the specs given). Anyway, I think this is pretty interesting. Using these on a space shuttle might not be a bad idea, ie- crawling around outside and inspecting things before take off. And later- making external in-flight repairs...

      Uh, dude. The wall-crawler (i.e. fuselage inspector) uses a fan to create a low pressure area between it & the surface its crawling. Without an incredibly powerful fan, it won't work on a flying aircraft. Do I have to say anything about the absence of air in space?

    2. Re:Cool stuff... by randyflood · · Score: 1

      I think that their method of sticking to the surface of a wall would not work very well in space due to the lack of atmosphere. What good is a fan in space?

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    3. Re:Cool stuff... by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 2, Funny
      Using these on a space shuttle might not be a bad idea, ie- crawling around outside and inspecting things before take off. And later- making external in-flight repairs...

      Let's imagine a future space shuttle mission. It is streaking through the atmosphere during reentry, except now there is a dome-shaped metal head poking out a hatch on the top.

      Suddenly, the heat shield tiles fail, and glowing bits of molten debris start flying off of the spacecraft. Fortunately the pilot yells "R2! The shields are breached!". The robot extends a spindly arm with a fire extenguisher on the end and sprays the damaged area. The shuttle is saved.

    4. Re:Cool stuff... by glh · · Score: 1

      Uh, dude. The wall-crawler (i.e. fuselage inspector) uses a fan to create a low pressure area between it & the surface its crawling. Without an incredibly powerful fan, it won't work on a flying aircraft. Do I have to say anything about the absence of air in space?


      Obviously, modifications would have to be made for this to work in space or even flight. I'm thinking something in terms of magnetics or suction cups with an oxygyn tank (I'll leave that as an exercise for you to figure out). Shouldn't be too difficult of a modification, regardless..

    5. Re:Cool stuff... by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 1

      suction cups with an oxygyn tank (I'll leave that as an exercise for you to figure out).

      This one hurts my head. How big an oxygen tank are you talking here? Enough to pressurize the "space" outside the vehicle so that the robot's suction-cups are low pressure by comparison?

      Stairs to the moon.

  35. Videos!! by brakk · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I want Videos! Pictures do nothing for me. In this age of palm sized video cameras and streaming porn, you would think I could get at least a lo-res video of some robots.

  36. Adaptability by Aerk · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Perhaps one day we can have a single robot to perform the varied functions mentioned above.

    Having your base protected by robots can lead to the possible problem of one thunderstorm shutting down base security. Until major improvements in AI are made, I would not trust robots to perform such a vital function.

  37. Radio Control by saskwach · · Score: 1, Interesting

    These robots seem radio controlled...so who's to stop a terrorist from getting a signal jammer and rendering these things useless...or a more powerful transmitter and taking them over?

    1. Re:Radio Control by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about encryption?

    2. Re:Radio Control by stanmann · · Score: 1

      I would have to imagine that the signal would be frequency agile, and use a rotating encryption scheme as well as having default behaviour if signal drops, including re-authentication.

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    3. Re:Radio Control by coloclone · · Score: 1

      They may work like SINCGAR's do. Alternating frequencies at a rapid pace. (This is a very non-technical description... I don't know the tech behind these devices)

      Check this link for more info...

      http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/sincgars.h tm
    4. Re:Radio Control by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Alright, Anakin. Enough with your silly ideas. Get out of that fighter.

  38. Maybe OT by hey! · · Score: 2, Interesting

    But does this situation with military and amateur inventors battlebots remind anyone else of the early days of aviation?

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  39. Uh oh... by cheesekeeper · · Score: 1

    Robots: All your base are belong to us! mod -1 stupid.

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  40. Eh ... what about? by LoudMusic · · Score: 2, Funny

    Did anyone else expect the AIR FORCE to have robots that fly ? I mean, really ...

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    1. Re:Eh ... what about? by CowsAnonymous · · Score: 1

      > Did anyone else expect the AIR FORCE to have robots that fly ? I mean, really ...

      I was thinking the same thing, and then two things crossed my mind:

      1.) They have already done the flying robots, those are the flying probes that are already in use.
      2.) The flying robots havn't been equipped with their ultra-hyper laser-death rays, and will soon be released...

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    2. Re:Eh ... what about? by BlueGecko · · Score: 1

      You mean like all of the drones that gathered intelligence during the Iraqi war?

  41. Remember: Out of control evil robots ... by burgburgburg · · Score: 4, Funny

    don't kill people, ...oh wait. They do.
    Never mind.

  42. Obligatory Simpsons Quote by Interesting+Username · · Score: 1

    I am a robot, do what I say, hehehehe.

    I am a washing machine, do what I say, hehe.

  43. Spoiler alert: by burgburgburg · · Score: 1

    The future Governor Joke of California is a robot too in the movie. In real life, who can say.

  44. So what's the point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What kind of state of national security are we in if the Military needs robot guards?

  45. RHex software on sourceforge. by jeti · · Score: 5, Informative

    The hexapod robot is very likely the one commonly
    called RHex. It was basically designed after a
    cockroach. You can find a lot more videos of it
    on the net. Its performance is truly impressive.

    And the best thing: The software for RHex is hosted
    on sourceforge!

    1. Re:RHex software on sourceforge. by hey! · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It was basically designed after a cockroach

      Which makes me think:What about designing a battle robot along the lines of a fire ant? Fireants swarm up a large animal like a human; when the first one makes it to the top it releases a pheromone which causes all the ants on the victim's body to use their painful poisoned bite simultaneously, sending their victim into shock.

      What's scarier -- the prospect of a thousand pound robot armed with guns and grenades, or a sixteen thousand tiny ant robots weighing an ounce each hiding, ready to swarm over their victim at a prearranged signal?

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    2. Re:RHex software on sourceforge. by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
      "What's scarier -- the prospect of a thousand pound robot armed with guns and grenades, or a sixteen thousand tiny ant robots weighing an ounce each hiding, ready to swarm over their victim at a prearranged signal?"

      What's scarier? 16,000 1000 LB robots armed with guns and grenades, ready to swarm over their victim at a prearranged signal. And if you don't think that's likely? Three words for you:

      "Shock and Awe"

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    3. Re:RHex software on sourceforge. by redfenix · · Score: 1

      Okay, so all I need to do is make sure none of them reach the top. Got it.

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  46. Shuttle Uses by benthar · · Score: 0

    Seems like the Shuttle would be an IDEAL candidate, since they mention it wandering around outside boats... except that pesky 'vector fan' controls that KEEP it against the surface...no air, no vectors... Guess they'll need a better solution for the shuttle.

  47. Obligatory snake crawling through tube post by mothrathegreat · · Score: 1
    ... Nah, Its below even me.

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  48. Future war scenario (act III, scene 4) by heironymouscoward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sarge: Soldier, we've gotten orders to attack. Prepare battlefleet 5 and get ready to strike on my signal.
    Soldier: Sarge, we gotta problem...
    Sarge: "Problem", soldier? Whatd'ya mean "we gotta problem"?
    Soldier: the bots, Sarge. They're all upgrading. Gonna take at least an hour, then we have to test them all again. Last virus was a bitch, they were all singing "My Way" a capella together...
    Sarge: yeah, I heard. Those slimy bastards... it was terrible...
    Soldier: anyhow, this new patch is gonna block all those music viruses.
    Sarge: OK, do what you have to. But what about the enemy?
    Soldier: Oh, no problem. We hit them with TZ/21, it's the virus that makes their 'bots quote random Nietsche, with Bob Hope delivery...
    Sarge: poor bastards... poor bastards...
    Soldier: yeah, war sucks. So, game of Doom/6?
    Sarge: yeah, why not... (don VR helmets, zapping noises)

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  49. hum... by guile*fr · · Score: 0, Troll

    Having a 1 trillion dollars budget to play with is sure cool.

    But how can those things cope with an insider throwing a nade in a tent?

    Or some loonies firing rockets to a jeep?

    Technology isnt the solution to all problems.

    Well, maybe there will be civilian outcomes.

  50. Yeah, but. . . by PhxBlue · · Score: 1

    Can they pass the ASVAB on their first try? If so, they may be overqualified. . . :p

    All levity aside, Air Force cops are chronically overworked and underappreciated. Anything that helps them do their jobs and makes their jobs a bit easier is well worth the money.

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  51. webcrawler? by f64 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    now. just how the hell does that thing climb the walls?

    assuming wallclimbing doesn't require being bit by a radioactive spider, it would be kinda kool to make a couple of those and let them climb around at random at home. if nothing else than to entertain the cat.

    besides, couldn't you build a human wall-climber using the same principle?
    does this tech scale (sorry) well?

    f64 : climbing walls, lacking coffee

    1. Re:webcrawler? by CowsAnonymous · · Score: 1

      In the article...

      >Among the robots shown in action was the "Wall Crawler," which can motor up walls and across ceilings on six wheels. It adheres to various surfaces, including brick walls, by means of a louvered fan that creates a low-pressure region between two adjacent surfaces.

      Anyone have any technical details?

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    2. Re:webcrawler? by Anonymous+Cow+herd · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it's basically the opposite of a hovercraft... instead of creating a cushion of air to float on, the wall-climbing robot has the fan running the other way (pushing it out the top) which creates a region of low pressure underneath, which "sucks" the robot into the wall. Pretty neat idea.

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    3. Re:webcrawler? by BradleyUffner · · Score: 1

      Basicly the robot sucks the wall. I would haveto immagine that it would be tough on the batteries though.

    4. Re:webcrawler? by f64 · · Score: 1

      ah. i guess reading the articles makes sense after all...

      wonder what the fansize-to-weight ratio is. i guess if i had to have a fan 3 metres in diameter strapped to my back in order to climb a wall, i wouldn't be the stealthy ninja i was hoping to be...

      f64 : soon to be homeless and sleeping in the gutters of gothenburg

  52. Re:Gay Robots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    why don't you open one on GNU (pronounce as Gay-N-U) website ?

  53. The Wall Crawler found slightly lacking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Demonstrations included one robot that crawled up walls and across ceilings...Among the robots shown in action was the "Wall Crawler," which can motor up walls and across ceilings on six wheels. It adheres to various surfaces, including brick walls, by means of a louvered fan that creates a low-pressure region between two adjacent surfaces.

    I bet the Wall Crawler works like one of those "intelligent Roomba lookalikes". Open one of these up and I bet you'll see:
    One motor.
    One battery tray.
    One switch.
    One power socket.
    One LED.
    One SuperGlue(TM) container.
    A few wires.

    And the things you won't see:
    A circuit board.
    A processor.
    A louvered fan.
    Any sensors.
    Any intelligence or ability to protect air force.

  54. money for robots but not airliners? by segment · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    Senator Chuck Schumer blasted the Bush administration for not taking the steps to equip passenger planes with weapons deterrent systems. Money to equip planes with devices that could stop someone from using a missile against it, nah let's play with robots. This being said just when the FBI busts a European businessman for trying to purchase a SAM (surface to air missile) that he allegedly was going to resell to terrorists.

    According to Schumer "The threat facing commercial airliners from shoulder-fired missiles here in the United States is no longer theoretical"

    So again I state... Waste money on pork-barrel shit like this, or but it to proper use?

    Full article on Schumer & view on this matter

  55. Larger images by Quixote · · Score: 4, Informative
    Here are bigger images of the wall climber and the six-legged crawler

    1. Re:Larger images by feagle814 · · Score: 1

      Just so you know, there is a miniature wireless videocamera mounted to that wall-climbing robot. That particular model sells for $500 but there are ones on eBay for about $50.

  56. The Hexapod Robot by Hayzeus · · Score: 4, Informative
    ... is a really cool design. I first saw this design show up on the JPL "Cool Robot of the Week" site a while ago (no URL, just google for it). It's one of those "why didn't they think of this 20 years ago?" things.

    If you can't figure it out from the picture, the idea is that rather than the traditional (biologically inspired) multi-jointed, multi-DOF leg design, a curved and somewhat flexible leg is just mounted directly to the motor shaft, which spins it like a wheel. The result is a robot that can navigate rough terrain with the same competence as its biologically inspired counterpart, but using much simpler control software and, more significantly, requiring much less mechanical complexity, which makes for a much more robust design. Very cool stuff.

  57. Bunny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After reading the article on the genetically crossed rabit-human hybrid, why use robots. I think the military should use rabbits. The reasons are obvious

    1. Beats the metallic-boring robots.
    2. Cute and fluffy weapon of doom.

  58. Second request! by bythescruff · · Score: 1

    [big robot voice] "...Please put down your weapon. You now have twenty seconds to comply..."

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  59. it's not a robot! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Why do people insist on calling these things robots? It's not a robot if a human is controlling it with a remote control. It's just a toy. A true *robot* operates autonomously.

  60. Obligatory Otaku question: by MsGeek · · Score: 1

    OK, these robots are all well and good, but when are we going to see COMBAT MECHA?????? C'mon folks...nothing says "Shock and Awe" more than a 10-story-tall mecha, loaded for bear!!! Combat mechas NOW, dammit!!!! +^_^+

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  61. Wall/Ceiling Crawler? by CompWerks · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If this thing uses a louvered fan for suction how does it transition from the wall to the ceiling?

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    1. Re:Wall/Ceiling Crawler? by Zurk · · Score: 1

      i suspect it uses two fans with a body capable of bending in the middle by about 30-45 degrees. that would allow it to adhere to curved surfaces as well as 90 degree transitions between wall and ceiling.
      neat...really neat.
      i suspect an 8 wheeled model would be more efficient as shown below in my crappy ascii art.
      FAN Hinge FAN
      ----XXXX----^-----XXXX----
      \_O_++++_O__^__O __++++_O_/

    2. Re:Wall/Ceiling Crawler? by CompWerks · · Score: 1

      Your ascii art actually illustrates your point well so don't sell yourself short. :) Your idea definately looks like it would work, but from the pic on the website it clearly looks like one large fan.

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    3. Re:Wall/Ceiling Crawler? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      fuck, imagine how short the battery life must be...

  62. Perimeter Defence by Stone316 · · Score: 1

    I've been kinda disappointed with the advances in 'perimeter' defence. You would think by now they'd have some impressive machines sitting out there instead of these dinky robots. Sure the technology is cool, no one is doubting that. But I would have thought by now they'd have portal remote controled devices that they could place in areas. Like the remote controled/automated guns in Aliens. These things can't be that expensive to build and setup?

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  63. Just remember... by BigGar' · · Score: 4, Funny

    DO NOT point a gun at them when demonstrating their effectiveness to a large group of senior executives.

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    1. Re:Just remember... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Excellent Robocop/Ed209 reference.

      That scene gave me the heeby jeebies for a long time afterwards.

  64. Did anyone else think of Terminator? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Look out for skynet!

  65. Links by jeti · · Score: 3, Informative

    And here are the links for RHex:
    ( easy to remember, easy to /. )

    RHex project home
    RHex software on sourceforge

  66. Drop Your Weapon! by Esion+Modnar · · Score: 1

    You have 20 seconds to comply.
    19
    18
    17...

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  67. Re: -1 No shit sherlock by halo8 · · Score: 0, Insightful

    "subject to major, non-reversable programming glitches when subjected to large electro-magnetic fields (such as lightning strikes).

    WHAT... pray tell.. isnt subect to a non reverable program glitch when struck by lighting?

    even your beloved "linux" couldnt survive that.

    p.s. this is a RETORICAL post.. yes i know airplanes and stuff can survive strikes.. but a 2 foot robot?

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  68. Terrorist Missiles vs. Airliners by Mad+Man · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    was Re:money for robots but not airliners?

    Senator Chuck Schumer blasted the Bush administration for not taking the steps to equip passenger planes with weapons deterrent systems. Money to equip planes with devices that could stop someone from using a missile against it, nah let's play with robots. This being said just when the FBI busts a European businessman for trying to purchase a SAM (surface to air missile) that he allegedly was going to resell to terrorists.

    According to Schumer "The threat facing commercial airliners from shoulder-fired missiles here in the United States is no longer theoretical"

    from http://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/20030813a .asp

    Terrorist Missiles Versus Airliners
    by James Dunnigan
    August 13, 2003

    An Indian arms dealer was caught trying to illegally import a Russian SA-18 Igla shoulder fired anti-aircraft missile to an FBI agent posing as an Islamic terrorist. Terrorists trying to take down airliners with portable missiles has been a threat for a long time. Actually, over the last thirty years, it's been a reality. Some 29 commercial aircraft have been shot down by such missiles. However, the downed aircraft have been small, and most of these tragedies have taken place in Africa. The wars in Africa are the worst on the planet, so violent that most journalists avoid them. For three decades, this has kept the use of portable missiles against civilian aircraft off the front page.

    Larger airliners, like the Airbus's, and 757s, 767s and 747s, have not been brought down because these missiles were not designed to take on aircraft with such large and powerful engines. While these missiles were originally intended for use against jet fighters operating over the battlefield, the reality turned out to be different. The most likely targets encountered were helicopters, or propeller driven transports. These aircraft proved to be just the sort of thing twenty pound missiles with 2-3 pound warheads could destroy. Against jet fighters with powerful engines, the missiles caused some damage to the tailpipe, but usually failed to bring down the jet. This was first noted during the 1973 Arab-Israeli war, where the Egyptians fired hundreds of SA-7s at Israeli A-4 light bombers. Most of the A-4s, with their 11,187 pounds of thrust engines, survived the encounter. Larger jets, like the F-4 and it's 17,000 pound thrust engines, were even more difficult to bring down. Smaller commercial jets, like the 737 or DC-9 (each using two 14,000 pounds of thrust engines) have proved vulnerable. But a 757 has much larger engines with 43,000 pounds of thrust, and the 747 is 63,000. Moreover, the rear end of jet engines are built to take a lot of punishment from all that hot exhaust spewing out. Put a bird into the front of the engine and you can do some real damage. But these missiles home in on heat, and all of that is at the rear end of the engine.

    If terrorists target helicopters and smaller turboprop commuter airliners, or business jets, they are likely to take down aircraft better than half the time a missile is used. This takes into account poorly trained missile operators and defective missiles. And a lot of the missile operators will be poorly trained, and, like November, 2002 incident in Mombassa, using missiles built over two decades ago. They won't be using any of the Stingers the U.S. gave out in Afghanistan during the 1980s. The custom battery packs in those missiles gave out in the 1990s. It's a lot easier to get Russian missiles, and fresh batteries for them.

    Another option for terrorists is to use anti-tank guided missiles (ATGM) against larger airliners. An ATGM is more accurate and hitting a 747, taking off, in an engine or the main fuel tank between the wings, there is a

  69. Blog Links by rpi1995 · · Score: 1

    Is anyone else getting annoyed with the increase in last sentences that say "Check this link (Usually the poster's blog) for more details."

    I wouldn't be so annoyed if it had more details. What most of them should say is "Check my link for a summary and all the pictures!"

  70. So how long... by Esion+Modnar · · Score: 1

    ...until the robots send one of their own back in time to stop John Connor?

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  71. Isn't this stretching the meaning of "robot"? by MouseR · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Shouldn't a robot be described as some mechanical device that's autonomous or otherwise self-guided?

    These "robots" all seem to be remote-controlled, making them expensive RC toys you'll find in 5 years at Radio Scrap.

    1. Re:Isn't this stretching the meaning of "robot"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From dictionary.com:

      robot ( P ) Pronunciation Key (rbt, -bt)
      n.

      1. A mechanical device that sometimes resembles a human and is capable of performing a variety of often complex human tasks on command or by being programmed in advance.
      2. A machine or device that operates automatically or by remote control.
      3. A person who works mechanically without original thought, especially one who responds automatically to the commands of others

    2. Re:Isn't this stretching the meaning of "robot"? by jeti · · Score: 1

      The usual definition is _programmable_
      in at least 3 DOF (degrees of freedom).

      Think of industrial robots.

    3. Re:Isn't this stretching the meaning of "robot"? by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 1

      That's the definition common to university classes titled "Robotics". But as often happens, the experts of a certain field have chosen to claim a common word as their own, re-defining it to mean whatever they happen to study.

      The work robot was invented by Karel Capek as a modification of robotnik, Czech for serf/slave. It implied machines that approached human-like characteristics over time, including the desire to be free from servitude.

      "Mechanical arms with 3 degrees of freedom" is a useful subject for research, and practitioners have adopted the less-unwieldy name "roboticists", but that doesn't make it correct.

      Other examples of experts invalidly redefining a word to a more specific form comes from the military. The vehicle called a "Tank" really means any mobile ground platform capable of surviving sustained machinegun fire. That definition was created around 1920 (the same time "robot" was). But today, military commanders only call something a tank if it's not only well armored, but also well-armed enough to damage a similar vehicle.

      An example prehaps more familiar to you is "hacker". It really means someone who "operates a complex system in a manner inconsistent with the designer's intent". Today, people calling themselves "hackers" attempt to redefine the word to mean "highly skilled computer programmers".

    4. Re:Isn't this stretching the meaning of "robot"? by ishmaelflood · · Score: 1

      ffs

      I know you are correct, but even a geek should know that tanks were invented /during/ WW1, and were called tanks at the the time, as a security measure. 1915 would be a good date, depending on your exact definition - most of the early problems were to do with tracks, engines, and transmissions. Once they had a suffciently mobile steel box sticking the guns in was a no-brainer.

    5. Re:Isn't this stretching the meaning of "robot"? by hplasm · · Score: 1

      So, ...No, it's correct.

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  72. Robot snakes. Why'd it have to be robot snakes?? by phillymjs · · Score: 1

    Wow, very cool. If they get those perfected quickly enough, the next Indiana Jones movie won't have an embarassing "obvious glass wall between deadly cobra and Indy" goof.

    ~Philly

  73. Agreed! People respond even worse! by Genjurosan · · Score: 1

    I think humans have a real problem when they get hit by lightning strikes... go figure! They suffer non-reversable brain and heart glitches when subjected lightning.

    Granted, you have to get hit directly; however, wouldn't we want a robot destryoed rather than one of our soldiers?

  74. safty examinations by wrax · · Score: 1
    He said it works even more efficiently underwater, moving around by remote control on the hull of a ship to send back video for safety examinations.

    Yes "saftey examinations", uh ha, more like "bug placement" to me.

  75. SOFTWARE! by SunPin · · Score: 1

    It was software the entire time... we should have listened to the Terminator. Now we're stuck in this Fallout-style control room while skynet is about to get its war on... Damn...

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  76. EM-puls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bin Laden is just so silly.
    He thinks he can win by smuggeling and using rocket launchers into the USA.
    He should know better.
    These days, we don't use rockets anymore. We use elektro-magnetic puls and their launchers.

  77. Similar demonstrations in the past by Thuktun · · Score: 1

    I found some fascinating footage of similar tests conducted by the military, with not very promising results.

    [bandwidth-friendly Google cache]

  78. I can see it now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Excelent, Smitheres.... Release the robots!

  79. Um, I don't think you can call it a robot. by Digital+Dharma · · Score: 1

    More like a 20 million dollar RC car, from the looks of the photo.

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  80. LOL by blah1019 · · Score: 0

    Is anyone else envisioning that scene from Robo Cop when they demonstrate the new next best thing? Thanks but I'll take a good ole fashioned human being carrying a rifle to keep an eye on my backside.

  81. are they robots? by LMCBoy · · Score: 1

    The images show a human remote-controlling two of the machines. Sorry, if they are human-controlled, they aren't robots (despite what pop culture calls such machines).

    The word 'robot' implies some degree of autonomy. At the end of the article, it says one of the machines is nearly autonomous and can be programmed to patrol a perimeter. Ok, that one's a robot. The rest seem to be remote-control security cameras...

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  82. I wonder... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How long until defense robots become blonde, wear red leather and have plasma guns on the right hand?

    Uh... never mind.

  83. Project cancelled by AirDave · · Score: 1

    Unfortunately, despite their technical progress, the Air Force was forced to cancel the project when the RIAA found out they had downloaded the "DANGER, WILL ROBINSON!!" sound clip.

  84. It's starting... by smatt-man · · Score: 1

    All your base are belong to us.

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  85. Please put down your weapon! by frostman · · Score: 1

    You have 20 seconds to comply!

    </obligatory robocop quote>

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  86. Gargoyle... by Papatoast · · Score: 0

    The dude in the 2nd picture is in total Gargoyle mode (ala Stephenson) with his strap on ...uh..um...bi-directiona,infrared,802.1x, thing hunched to his back like a redwood...

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  87. They only lack. by JollyFinn · · Score: 1

    A fully fledged chaingun, and good armoring.
    Manufacturing a single such, beast could costs a LOT less than training a basic soldier. Having large bunch of those sitting in warehouses costs a LOT less than having huge number of soldiers on field.
    But in the otherhand, several other countries will get capabilities of making autonomous war machines soon, and as byproduct using their war machine becomes a LOT cheaper than currently.

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  88. Judgement Day is inevitable by ecloud · · Score: 1

    It cannot be stopped, only postponed.

    No really, either we get taken out by these, or by nanobots, or by genetically-engineered diseases. Pick yer poison.

    But hey, it's only the continuation of an old tradition, that we should help to select our successors. The monkeys could do that to a limited degree, only by choosing with whom to have sex; but we get to build them with our own hands.

  89. Silent Running Drones by AtariAmarok · · Score: 1

    As far as I know, the R2 units sit in the back like co-pilots.

    For the ones that can crawl around on the outside of the ship and fix things, look to the drones from "Silent Running".

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    1. Re:Silent Running Drones by Sabalon · · Score: 1

      Ah...obviously you missed Phantom Menace, where R2's true origins and purpose is divulged.

      Or maybe you don't miss it :)

  90. Daleks by Eugene+O'Neil · · Score: 1

    Another robot brought to the exhibition was an experimental prototype of the mark 3 travel machine, recently renamed as the "Dalek" by it's creator Davros. Mass production of these travel machines will begin shortly.

  91. Re:Agreed! People respond even worse! by The+Only+Druid · · Score: 2, Funny

    Actually, the majority of people struck by lightning directly survive. Typically the lightning bolt leaves a burn around the size of your fist at the entry/exit points, although it can cause a heart attack/seizure. In fact, "a full 80% of people that are hit by lightning recover", according to Toronto Hiking (here http://www.torontohiking.com/Tutorials/lightning/l ightning.html).

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  92. Re: -1 No shit sherlock by MarkGriz · · Score: 2, Funny

    No true. I've got a bolt of lightning in my living room and I've managed to get Linux to run on it. You can install Linux on *anything*

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  93. how about something really scary by bladeohlsson · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Now imagine preparing for the "invading force" and 10,000 of these come marching into town. You shoot them, they keep coming forward, you throw bombs at them and their legs fall off, but they still keep coming after you. They could even be programed to be non-leathal attackers that just grab you and don't let go and bring you back to jail. If fuel cells actually happen this kind of stuff is not that far off.

    KAWADA INSUTRIES

    Yes, a wall walker may have more praticle uses, but imagine the fear factor of an army of these things coming into town with machine guns!

    more crazy stuff here

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  94. Re:Agreed! People respond even worse! by AtariAmarok · · Score: 1

    " "a full 80% of people that are hit by lightning recover","

    The remaining 20% develop superpowers and endeavor to save the Earth or destroy it.

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  95. Missed Phantom Menace? by AtariAmarok · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ah, to my great regret, I did not miss Phantom Menace. Thankfully, as you have shown, I have forgotten parts of it.

    I fear that the damnable tongue will be the last thing that "meesa" will forget, however.

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  96. Don't you mean Bill Gates? by gatkinso · · Score: 1

    Hmm??

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  97. The purpose is intrustion detection... by BobBoring · · Score: 4, Informative

    So, If someone is jamming the control frequency you just tell the real live human sky cops who have authority to use lethal force to wake up and go drive the perimeter road looking for someone jumping the fence. Plus if they are using even the 1980's SINCGARS radio technology the signal will be hard to jam and the jamming will be easy to triangulate back to a source. They are more likely to be using one of the newer frequency agile radio technologies that are even more resistant to jamming. They probably have provision for connecting a landline data link to robots that are 'standing watch' and only move through a limited area mitigating the man in the middle attack vulnerability. The robots that climb on walls and ceilings look like they are intended for use to scout an interior area for intruders. They may be semi-autonomous and only transmit back the base station if they spot something. Given the state of machine object recognition there will have to be an operator evaluating the senor data from this type of stuff for a long time to come.

  98. Itchy and Scratchy Land by AtariAmarok · · Score: 1

    " Now imagine preparing for the "invading force" and 10,000 of these come marching into town. You shoot them, they keep coming forward, you throw bombs at them and their legs fall off, but they still keep coming after you"

    You saw that same episode of The Simpsons with the itchy and scratchy amusement park too!

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  99. Red Planet by AtariAmarok · · Score: 1

    The robot dog in "Red Planet" surely had some of Jonny-5 in its ancestry...

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  100. Who needs an air force? by AtariAmarok · · Score: 1
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  101. Number 5 is alive! by FunWithHeadlines · · Score: 3, Funny
    I can't belive no one else noticed this obligatory 80s reference: A demonstration before military personnel of robots designed to show off their superior security ability? Whoa, dude, I'm back in the 80s!:

    Military guy: Will he kill me if I stop?
    Ben: Who is to say?
    Military guy: Will he kill me if I don't stop?
    Ben: Again I am shrugging.

    Number 5: Many fragments. Some large, some small.

    1. Re:Number 5 is alive! by RobertB-DC · · Score: 1

      I can't belive no one else noticed this obligatory 80s reference...

      Actually, it's Your Moderation Points At Work: something like 15 of the first 20 (non-troll) comments were lame Short Circuit jokes, including my own (though mine got modded up to +5, Interesting by moderators who missed the joke!).

      Read at -1 to see Slashdot groupthink in all its duplicitous glory.

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  102. Hexapod robot: same as earlier Slashdot Story by Onnimikki · · Score: 2, Informative

    There was an earlier story on Slashdot about RHex, as part of the Aqua project. Videos are available on the ARL website at McGill.

  103. All your bot by AtariAmarok · · Score: 1

    "Ben: Again I am shrugging."

    Sounds like something from.... oh, never mind.

    All your bot are belong to us.

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  104. But how effective are they? by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
    If you REALLY wanna see if these can "defend", I recommend putting them on Battlebots. Seriously, if the government wants to get serious about using robots as soldiers, they should sponsor that show. And make it so that you can have explosive/corrosive/incendiary/projectile weapons! Just put the audience and controllers back a bit with some more protective junk, and that show would be a WHOLE lot more interesting.

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  105. Re: -1 No shit sherlock by Fastolfe · · Score: 1

    Did you even click on the link the original poster provided? It might prove to be enlightening.

  106. Why, no, I HAVEN'T RTFA! by Thud457 · · Score: 1
    So how do these robots discern between enemy soldiers, spies, terrorists, greenpeace and drunken college kids out "robot tipping"?!!

    That'll be real hard to explain when these things grease some dumbass taxpayer's son!

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    1. Re:Why, no, I HAVEN'T RTFA! by MindStalker · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure these robots are spies and are currently not equipt with weapons. The predator does carry weapons though, but I'm quite sure its requires a person to tell it where and when to shoot. Aside from defensive weapons (patriot missiles for example) there are no weapons that pick their own targets currently and probably won't be for a long ways off.

  107. Re:Agreed! People respond even worse! by CriX · · Score: 1

    This is absolutely wrong. You only survive getting hit by a glance of lighting. One of the smaller bolts may lick you and leave a little burn. If the main bolt hits you, the only thing left is a pile of ashes. My AP physics teacher back in highschool told me how his sister was a Park Ranger and she would be first to the scene of a lightening strike incident and the only thing left was a "pile of ashes." I know this sounds like a story from a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend...etc but for some reason I have the highest trust in my highschool physics teacher. He can not be wrong!@

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  108. Unintended Consequences by prestidigital · · Score: 2, Insightful
    from the article: "Why put a person in harm's way if you can take a machine and new technology to go ahead and do a first look?"

    I'll tell you why. Start making it easy for countries to engage in war w/o risking human lives and suddenly you've completely changed the fundamentals of why and when people are willing go to war. Combat bots should be outlawed by the Geneva convention. War sucks, but in order for it to have any legitamcy whatsoever, then lives must be at risk. If lives aren't at risk then wars become too easy to start.

    Of course, maybe war will evolve in such a way that we'll just carry out computer models to figure out who wins and then send the "correct" number of losers into extermination chambers ala - what was that episode of Star Trek?

    8 ^ |

    1. Re:Unintended Consequences by praksys · · Score: 2, Insightful

      War sucks, but in order for it to have any legitamcy whatsoever, then lives must be at risk. If lives aren't at risk then wars become too easy to start.

      Very eager to sacrifice other people's lives aren't you? Join the Marines first, then tell us all about how important it is to put lives at risk when we go to war.

    2. Re:Unintended Consequences by prestidigital · · Score: 1
      I guess I could see why you think that. Perhaps I was little too off the cuff or should have elaborated. So, if you are a Marine and your life has been at risk, I apologize for any offense given. I must say though, that your remarks make two assumptions of my position, but neither of them is true.

      The first misassumption is that I am somehow "eager" to sacrifice other people's lives. Of course such an idea is ridiculous. Had I been more thoughtful in my remarks, I might have acknowledged the obvious benefits these kinds of technologies bring. I suppose I consider many such bots as tools like any other tools. Furthermore, this category of research seems certain to spill over into non-military uses, as it often does, and that is a good thing. Still, I do believe that certain remote technologies that exist today and/or eventually just having enough bots feeds the potential for remote controlled combat to be an easy answer. That is why I think limits of use should be considered. Listen, I have responded to RFPs essentially looking to equip a single guy in the field with a live visual feed from his gun scope back to CENTCOM so an "analyst" 3000 miles away can make a call on whether or not to pull the trigger. Frankly, that scares the bejeezes outta me.

      Your second misassumption is that I think it is "important" to put lives at risk. On the contrary, when I say "war sucks" it is precisely because I think putting lives at risk is absolutely the last thing on earth I ever want to happen.

  109. they missed one. by PsiPsiStar · · Score: 1

    ... and one that was made of liquid metal and wants to kill us all.

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  110. I think I saw this in a movie once by prestidigital · · Score: 1
    You know...Gene Simmons is the head of a large EVIL company that lets these crazy things run around and kill people. Where is Tom Selleck when we need him?!

    Runaway

  111. Re:In case of slashdotting: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Idiot moderators -- at least read the post before moderating! It's not what you assumed it was!

  112. Dangerous move! by mikehunt · · Score: 1

    I wonder what you get for slashdotting af.mil!

    Incoming....

  113. Star Trek vs Star Wars type futures by DannyiMac · · Score: 2, Insightful

    People used to think that robots, not computers would be common place in the future like in Star Wars (I know it's the distant past in a galaxy far, far... anyway). A few years ago I thought we would have a more Star Trek-type future where computers are integrated into everything and robots wouldn't be so common. Now I believe that is changing. On /. I keep reading about more and more robots as well as computers. On TechTV they seem to always show something about robots, be it on TechLive or that awful Robot Wars (come on, that whole robot fighting fad is sooo two years ago). I think the reason for this change is better, cheaper technology. Anyone can waltz down to the RadioShack, among other outlets, and pick up parts for one. Building a robot 5-10 years ago would result in something along the intelligence of a RoboSweep--not really worth the effort. I think robots will have a larger role in the future than I thought--Good luck Airforce, good luck iRobot (the makers of the Roomba vacuum cleaner).

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    1. Re:Star Trek vs Star Wars type futures by Yanray · · Score: 1

      Actually this is a very interesting topic of discussion. The future of robotics in Star Trek seems to have moved in two directions, nano-robotics and a single acapella singing, tap dancing android. Star Wars technology see's robotics on differant levels. The movies seem to have extensive military and civillian applications on the scale of 1 to 25 meters, and "programmed" for a certian type of job, see killbot 3000. Only the extended universe (books) show technology on the macro and Nano extreme's.

      I must say I like the way SW portray's robots. Robots, Droids, are not supose to be humansk. That would do nothing but freak out humans. However if the average consumer was able to have a "valet robot" most consumers would bitch loud enough to have programmers spend decades trying to produce robots with more personallities and fewer skills. (This explains the lack of mobility SW droids have.)

      Thoughts?

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  114. Typical design flaw? by tjw · · Score: 1

    As we all know, the largest flaw in typical killbot design is their preset kill-limit. This allows a large group of soldiers to easily defeat them without firing a single shot.

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  115. Re: -1 No shit sherlock by IM6100 · · Score: 1

    You meant to say NetBSD. Linux can be ported badly to any architecture, with a partial non-standard userland thrown together by someone at random.

    With NetBSD if it's ported to an architecture, it's the same identical codebase as on every other NetBSD architecture.

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  116. I want to see R2-D2's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why cant they make robots to do inflight repairs for fighter jets or space shuttles and such like little r2's but probably much smaller and using a lot of them with preprogrammed repair routines being selected by an operator who can remote diagnose.

  117. playing god with monsters? by Heisenbug · · Score: 1

    Between this and the Attack of the Rabbit People story, I'm starting to think that article yesterday may have come a bit too soon ...

  118. The things that bother me by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ya know... we got the viruses taking out computers, we got the highly specialized super-computers, and now we've got robots protecting military installations. None of that really bothered me until I realized my name was John.

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    1. Re:The things that bother me by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 1

      "None of that really bothered me until I realized my name was John."

      You think you're bothered? My name's Katherine!

    2. Re:The things that bother me by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "You think you're bothered? My name's Katherine!"

      Ha! You've been promoted to bitch!

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  119. Time for tea by iCat · · Score: 1

    Could the Wall Crawler be used as a trusted companion to carry your packed lunch when climbing a particularly treacherous mountain face?

  120. Removing the Horror From War? by MonolithicX · · Score: 1

    Although "Force Protection" is a good use of robots I'm sure hand-in-hand goes "Force Projection". How far away are we from Robots being able to do our dirty work?
    One of the big debates about war in the U.S. is the death of U.S. Servicemen and women. What happens when we remove that risk?

    TV: On the Six O'Clock news tonight "One of our Stablization Robots mows down 100 peasants" Click "Welcome back to Paradise Hotel!"

    1. Re:Removing the Horror From War? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      until our enemys build robotic warriors and we end up with massive droid armies like in the new star wars movies having battles. Or we settle our diffrences with a prime time episode of Battle Bots on comedy central, instead of prime time CNN.

      Of course if you are going to have robots fight for you anyways why not agree to cut out the physical layer and just write computer programs to battle each other. And in the end we end up with my processor is faster than yours and we get in a fist fight. Oh well

  121. Oh Dear by vandan · · Score: 1

    No number of robots can protect you from world opinion. If only all your military spending were redirected to something useful...

  122. These Are Not Robots! by 3Suns · · Score: 2, Insightful

    When did our definition of "robot" become "Nifty mobile vehicle with some kind of new technology" ? A robot, sort of by definition, is an autonomous machine, capable of acting and reacting on its own without human intervention. Battlebots? They're just souped-up RC cars. ASIMO? His every step is preprogrammed; if you moved the stairs a foot forward he'd trip, because ASIMO is not a robot.

    These pictures clearly show humans remotely controlling them. What makes them different than remote controlled cars that you can buy at Toys-R-Us, the fact that they can crawl up walls or have six funky legs? Please, stop referring to these fancy toys as "robots" and diminishing the accomplishments of those who make real autonomous robots.

    And yes, I have worked on real robots. Last year I was on the robotics team from the University of Rochester. Our robot Mabel the Mobile Table, an autonomous robotic hors d'ourvres-serving waiter, won the AAAI Robot Host competition. Robotics means artificial intelligence, at least rudimentary AI, not just some new means of locomotion.

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  123. Re:Memory Constraints by CycleMan · · Score: 1
    64M of RAM is more than enough for a hell of a lot of optimized assembly code and compressed data.

    "640Kb ought to be enough for anybody." - Bill Gates.

  124. -1 is for woosies by ishmaelflood · · Score: 1

    I read at -10

  125. Convergence by ishmaelflood · · Score: 1

    IANAP

    Convergence - I like the idea, but, given a non-fractal programming language, how can you compress more and more information (code) into a given number of bits? There has to be some sort of Shannon's law equivalent that says ultimately that if you have x inputs and y outputs you need a certain size of code just to contain, or generate, all the possible i/o states.

    I'm not saying that current code is space-optimised by the way.

    1. Re:Convergence by IM6100 · · Score: 1

      'convergence' probably wasn't the proper term scientifically. What I meant was that for a given task, a code base should just get tighter and tighter, as the errors are wrung out of it and everybody takes their shot at optimizing it. A word processor, if we'd just continued optimizing and tweaking WordStar, should live in less than 512K of memory and run so fast that slowdown code is needed to keep it from scrolling to the bottom of a 50 page document before you can lift your fingers off the scroll-down button. That specific problem is a 'bug' btw, if you run WordStar 2.2 for MS-DOS on a modern Pentium computer.

      Software should 'converge' and get better over time.

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  126. They are here to protect us? by DoktorGonzo · · Score: 1

    I didn't see the pusher and shover robots. Are those other ones here to protect us from the Terrible Secret of Space?

  127. Space robots? by atrader42 · · Score: 1

    I won't be content until we have robots to protect us from the TERRIBLE SECRET OF SPACE! *ahem*.../me goes down the stairs

  128. WTF?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    how is this obligatory? it isn't in any way connected, save for the fact that you made a nonsensical connection to the Aibo, which has little to do with the robots under discussion here. What the hell are you mods on?!?!?!

  129. Styx ???? by 010_digital_100 · · Score: 1
    Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto

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  130. Photo of the demonstration by Max+Threshold · · Score: 1

    Photo here.

  131. His voice is dubbed. by mfh · · Score: 1

    Next time you're watching the film, pay close attention - his voice is dubbed in.

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  132. good deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would trust robots more than the pansy "airmen" frat boys any day. Robots would tend to not try to impress each other as much and wouldn't need all the pampering. Robots on the other hand will require maintenance and thus you have a real need for AF folks. Perhaps then they can change their name to "Tech Group" as anything resembling military just is confusing. Ever seen "Toys"? Why train for the military when you can just use Nintendo players? Saves money and effort and that ichy dirt and grime won't get under your nails.

  133. Re:Memory Constraints by IM6100 · · Score: 1

    If you're an assembly language programmer, you'll have a hell of a time writing enough code to fill up 640Kb.

    But you didn't even look at what I was typing, you just made a quip.

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  134. Your numbers are close, but wrong by The+Tyro · · Score: 1

    I am a doctor, and I treat these folks... lightning strikes are no joke.

    Lightning strikes have about a 30+% mortality, and permanent disability is very common... almost 80% of people have some sort of deficit afterwards.

    Some of the deficits are subtle, neuropsychiatric defects... others are much more disabling.

    Lightning typically causes a fern-shaped burn pattern, and cardiac/respiratory arrest are very common. If someone is not around to provide CPR for you, your odds of death are quite high.

    Development of superpowers is uncommon.

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  135. Re: -1 No shit sherlock by The+Matrix+Has+Me · · Score: 1
    Did you even click on the link the original poster provided? It might prove to be enlightening.
    heh heh heh. en-lightening
  136. All I need is a really big magnet...... by 1iar_parad0x · · Score: 1

    You know, how useful can a robot be for military purposes. All I need is a really big magnet.

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