You do realize that Radio shack is only putting up one millon dollars. Don't you think that if space travel was that cheap, other companies with multi-billon dollar incoming would have already done this?
They are obviously in need of more backers, with a lot more money. How likely do you think a backing from Microsoft is?
Microsoft claim moon Reuters In a surprise move today, Microsoft has launched a capsule that supposedly contains the source code for all Windows products towards the moon. In reaching the moon, the source can then claim itself an soverign entity, with no governmental or terriestrial ties. Claiming problems with bandwidth, the source only repeats over and over 'I am a thinking entity. You need me for Age of Empires.' People around the world are stunned at this new innovation from Microsoft.
It's expected that the legal and marketing abilities of the probe are highly advanced, enabling it to buy companies remotely and sue people for making parody web pages. Other companies are very interested in buying this technology, but when they show interest are immediately bought by Microsoft.
Bill Gates was unavailable for comment, but Steve Ballmer stated unequivocally 'Microsoft is bigger than the Earth, we're intergalatic now. We're bigger than Jesus. You could never be as 31337 as us.' The statement then degenerated into a series of 'uNF's and 'jajajaja's.
Considering the mp4 project is intially based on midi support, this might make mp4 support on the palms REALLY simple! 1000x compression, here we come!
Around 6 months before Q3A came out, I got the unique chance to alpha test Quake 3 Arena in Dallas at id software. I ended up playing with Blue and Redwood, along with Tim Willits and Christian 'Disruptor' Antkow. Oh, and meet most of the rest of the group. And John Cash is the nicest guy in the world!
Because of the limited number of skins at the time, most of us had the choice of the Tim, Xian, and Sarge skin, because that is about the only skins they had. What was scary is that the Tim skin looked nearly EXACTLY like him. And, in my opinion, was the best player amongst the gathered group. Hence, you learned to run away if you saw Tim running towards you. It was very strange to be running around, and run right into someone you recognize from the real world.
However, for a team play game that involved pushing a button to get points, we ended up playing almost all the same skins, so the effect was much stranger to see 3 Xian's running around. `8r)
Anyway, it has been maintained from the begining that id software is able to create photorealistic skins, and that they will provide instruction on how to create your own. There is a PC gamer issue out there discussing that as well.
Two issues here, the time frame and the ability to script it.
I was unable to script this setup because subseven uses a windows based gui. I was unable to find a command line version that did what I needed it to do. Basically, a command line version that would log in, remove the server, and log out would be great, but right now no such tool exists. in theory, I should have then been able to pass it to a for list with all my ip's i knew. Yes, it would have been nice, but cut and paste into the GUI was all I had the time. I've spoken with people at Cert and NetSec and was told that something like this in the works.
The long time was because not all hosts are on at the same time. The bot net seemed mostly international. so at the time that people in Japan are turning their computers on, people in the UK are turning their's off, etc. Hence, there was a constant flow of bots in and out of the channel. By grabbing the ip when they joined, I cut and pasted it to the subseven client program, and then removed the server. It was a REAL pain in the ass because the subseven server only allows ip's, not hostnames. Anyway, after around 8 hours of doing this, I felt that the botnet was permenantly crippled, and left the rest. The guy is getting followed by several people, removing the rest of the clients.
no, it wasn't the most elegant solution, and yes, it sucked. I should have packet sniffed the connections and recorded the output, so i could script the whole thing to automate it for this current botnet.
I recently killed around 250 nodes of a subseven network. Apparently, they thought my irc server would be a good harbor. They all used the same username, and they all used similar names. After I found the bots, I put a sniffer on the bot master, grabbed his password, and then used that to gather the ports and passwords of the bots. Then, I used the 'remove server' option of the server to remove the bots from the people's machines.
It was a huge project, took me around 8 hours to do, and was a huge pain in the ass. Subseven is a damn scary trojan, only has limited flooding abilities, but it can gather a lot of information and can redirect most anything. this would allow a cracker to gather personal information, bounce a web request off of it to use a stolen credit card, or ping flood some ip.
I hope to god they manage to catch these guys and that they don't pay much attention to the news.. heh.. i'm betting they are just using subseven to bounce off a client anyway, so their ip might be diguised. all I know is that 250 of these clients are no longer around because of me, and that makes me feel a little safer.
If anyone is involved in the clean up of these clients, please get in contact with me. I might be able to provide you with operational knowledge.
Could someone else lend Jon some current science fiction so that I can stop reading about shit I knew 10 years ago?
How the fuck can you call yourself a geek when you're just discovering a culture that originated back in 1982 with Neuromancer and Burning Chrome. The idea of corporate versus underworld culture with an element of computer trickery has been around since the late 70's, and you're just now figuring this out? Hell, the cyberpunk literature style has been pimping this idea for the past 20 years, and was considered 'dead' until Snow Crash was produced.
You'd have been better off doing a review of the cyborg element of shadowrun, since that is becoming more possible recently. I'm sure you would have lots of people (like myself) who plan to get cyber implants once they become available to the public
So please, Rob, CT, even Cowboy Neal, turn Jon Katz onto some current literature, let him borrow a copy of a recent book. I'm tired of hearing about the latest revolution that happened ten generations ago. (computer time)
He's called 'The Wolf' in the film, maybe if only as a nickname. Maybe if you had watched it recently, you might have known that. and yes, why there are more, this one just recently came out on DVD.
-- Gonzo Granzeau
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Sorry, I'm at work, I don't have a copy of it onhand to get the spelling. `8r)
But I was just disappointed with the later versions. Hence, why I said what I did.
-- Gonzo Granzeau
You just don't understand...
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(that's the lead in for the Lain theme) Lain is designed to get you confused. If you really want to get confused, watch Lain. `8r) oh, and avoid watching all the episodes in a row, you could go insane!
Present day! Present Time! HAHAHAHAHAH
But still, an excellent anime. Here are further suggestions, all on DVD. I suggest you check out NetFlix as well, as they have Anime for rental over the net.
Ghost in the Shell: Popularized anime, big guns, naked girls, mecha, complex plot, this has everything that *is* anime. I think it's the perfect representation of the genre. And my favorite.
Bubble Gum Crisis: Another representation of the genre, it covers more of the mecha aspects, and was well done for the time. Good looking girls in powered armor, etc.
Legend of the Overfiend: a series, they recently released a box set of the first 5 disks, and the only ones worth getting. This is a 'tenticle porn' anime, and is another 'representative of the genre' things. If you ever wanted something that made your friends go 'holy crap!' check this out. NOT FOR KIDS!
Tenchi Muyo: An excellent series, following the exploits of tenchi. it's a television series, but they also have some movies on it.
Queen Emeraldas: A surprisingly good anime following the exploits of a female pirate and this little kid trying to make it in the world. It's got some pretty funny scenes and they have some really cool weapons.
Macros Plus: Unlike the first one, Macros Plus is good! (well, if you don't dig on the Minmae defense!) They have some excellent graphics, and a well thought out plot line. a classic mecha.
Neon Genesis Evangelion: giant mecca, younger actors, and very well drawn. This is an excellent anime to investigate.
Record of the Lotus Wars: Just like AD&D brought to anime. very well done.
Princess Mononoke: Soon coming to DVD! well, at least they keep on saying that. someday we'll get this great movie. a fantasy series, very very well done. Was VERY good because I saw it in the theatres.
Ranma 1/2: If you like cutsey slightly funny young girlish comedies, you might dig on this. It's not my thing, but it's still somewhat funny.
Castle of Caligistro: The spy adventures of Agent Wolf, an excellent early anime. It just came out on DVD. Another genre definer.
Project A-ko: AAHHHNOOOOOOO!!!! My personal nemesis. I hate this anime, but only because i hate C-ko. if you dig on mostly girls whining with the occational super human battle... but i HIGHLY recommend against it!
MD Geist: Another classic, very violent. Post apoclyptic genre.
Golden Boy: a voyaging student wandering the country side, VERY funny. `8r) This is a good example of humor done well... everywhere the boy goes, he finds love in a new form. most likely not for kids though. Not on DVD that I know of.
Iszer: The worst anime i've ever seen. avoid it.
All Purpose Cultural Cat Girl Nuku Nuku: Just look at the title! `8r) It's a decent anime, a happy present day, young girl type of anime. Nuku Nuku is superhuman, and it's also pretty funny. Not on DVD I don't think, can't remember
Anyway, that's all I can think of right now. There are others that are also very good classics that are not on DVD, such as Riding Bean, Akira, Appleseed, Dirty Pair, Vampire Hunter D, AD Tank Police, 3x3 eyes, Sakura Wars, and a buttload of different TV series. I highly suggest you check out an anime con sometime, I recently went to one in Chicago, and it was excellent. even got to see Cowboy Bebop for free. Which I then turned around and bought.
Only by going to a computer trade show can you get a can.
and without the can, you can't get the source on the can.
and without the source, you can't brew your own version of the soda.
It's a conspiracy by the creators of trade shows i tell ya! Only hope they have some at DefCon. All I know is that I can't download their cola source from their web site. `8r/ OPEN SOURCE THE COLA RECEIPE NOW! (and I don't mean the buggie perl script that assumes that once you start drinking a soda, the variable $reallyThirsty never changes. and I would most likely make a subroutine &recycle() that would be portable, for if you're drinking in your car, etc.)
Have they forgotten all the trace gasses that will kill regular people? have they seen mission to mars and total recall one too many times?
There are elements of sulfur, ammonia, and carbon monooxide in way too great of quanities present in the atmosphere. True, all of these elements can be converted to a non-issue, except the sulfur. Not sure how they are going to get rid of that.
Secondly, how are they going to get a breathable atmosphere when the pressure there is nearly negligible. the atmosphere is only half a mile high, we have 14 miles of atmosphere on earth. The reduced biosphere is going to be hard pressed to remove all the cosmic rays.
It takes a lot more than a little oxygen to teraform a planet though.
The end of college, what's the first thing everyone does? Follows where their friends went! Half my friends went out to California (most to Cobalt) because there are hot jobs and hot stock options! If you're the next geewhiz kid, they want you! yeah, you can make a salary that makes your dad turn white and be a millionare on paper, but the living situation is less than ideal.
Me, I took the easy route and started doing consulting gigs in the Chicago area. I make great money, I enjoy my work, 30 minute drive to work, and have a first class living situation. you can't beat living in the 'burbs in a house for 450 a month. `8r) and wow, I can concurrently save money, buy lots of toys, and go out all the damn time.
I have no regrets about not following the boom in CA, dispite the urging of all my friends. Besides, I remotely adminster a Linux box out there, isn't it enough to have your web page based there? `8r) (since there were no other midwest people chiming in... I figure i'd put my stake in about the dust bowl.)
500' spool of cable - $68 SOHO cable set (crimper, tester, rj-45's, punch down tool, booties) - $110 Tie wraps and glue clips - $6 Beer to convince friends to help - $24 The ability to surf porn and IRC from your room - Priceless
When the wireless solution you bought doesn't work with Linux, there's always Mastercard.
As I stated, any court of law can clearly recognize that a person should be able to transfer a domain that they have purchased, and promptly paid for. It's only when there are problems with the domain initially that there should be any reason to delay the transfer.
Network Solutions could refuse to transfer domains to other registrars, but if they do for many institutions, they risk being audited by the government for refusing to give up their government instituted monopoly. ie, bad news for NSI, they are out of the 'give us free money' business of being a registrar.
But, if you never try, you'll never find out, will you? I know many people that have transfered domains around with no problems. But, how they react to a mass exodus, we'll see.
I do some research this morning, and I get an 'ask slashdot' today...
Okay a couple steps for Register.com, my current domain registrar choice.
1. Get the PDF form. There is a web based version here, but it prints worse. 2. Fill it out 3. Get a photocopy of your drivers license or something and have it notorized. 4. Fax it or mail it. It takes around 3-4 days.
NSI can only block you if:
The transfer request was initiated within the first 60 days of the original registration date
There is a dispute over the domain name
There is a pending bankruptcy of the domain name holder
There is a dispute over the identity of the domain name holder
At the discretion of the losing registrar
So be careful of the last clause. In theory, they are only shooting themselves in the foot, and the legal notification to change should hold up in court. and of course, the implied IANAL.
I garnered all this info from the Register.comhelp pages in preperations for my domain transfer today. Also, I've been quite happy with Register.com's hosting so far, so this is all IMHO.
There's one really important suggestion that shouldn't be too hard to implement...
Would it be possible to have a CVS tree made available for slashcode? even if it's read-only, you might get some suggestions from the relatively intelligent coders we get here.
I think if this was done properly, some of the packaging efforts could be put a lower priority.
But I also have to say that complaining about a lack of decent packaging for home-brew code is kind of looking in the gift horse in the mouth. We're lucky to get a tar ball from people, i'm sure there are some packaging wizards out there who could fix it up with a decent autoconf script or in rpm or apt package format. Getting the majority of the code debugged, that's much more important.
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They are obviously in need of more backers, with a lot more money. How likely do you think a backing from Microsoft is?
Microsoft claim moon
Reuters
In a surprise move today, Microsoft has launched a capsule that supposedly contains the source code for all Windows products towards the moon. In reaching the moon, the source can then claim itself an soverign entity, with no governmental or terriestrial ties. Claiming problems with bandwidth, the source only repeats over and over 'I am a thinking entity. You need me for Age of Empires.' People around the world are stunned at this new innovation from Microsoft.
It's expected that the legal and marketing abilities of the probe are highly advanced, enabling it to buy companies remotely and sue people for making parody web pages. Other companies are very interested in buying this technology, but when they show interest are immediately bought by Microsoft.
Bill Gates was unavailable for comment, but Steve Ballmer stated unequivocally 'Microsoft is bigger than the Earth, we're intergalatic now. We're bigger than Jesus. You could never be as 31337 as us.' The statement then degenerated into a series of 'uNF's and 'jajajaja's.
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Gonzo Granzeau
doh, you're correct, i mislabeled it. i should have provided the link when i filled it out.
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Gonzo Granzeau
Considering the mp4 project is intially based on midi support, this might make mp4 support on the palms REALLY simple! 1000x compression, here we come!
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Gonzo Granzeau
Because of the limited number of skins at the time, most of us had the choice of the Tim, Xian, and Sarge skin, because that is about the only skins they had. What was scary is that the Tim skin looked nearly EXACTLY like him. And, in my opinion, was the best player amongst the gathered group. Hence, you learned to run away if you saw Tim running towards you. It was very strange to be running around, and run right into someone you recognize from the real world.
However, for a team play game that involved pushing a button to get points, we ended up playing almost all the same skins, so the effect was much stranger to see 3 Xian's running around. `8r)
Anyway, it has been maintained from the begining that id software is able to create photorealistic skins, and that they will provide instruction on how to create your own. There is a PC gamer issue out there discussing that as well.
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Gonzo Granzeau
I am hopelessly addicted to professional minesweeper. and I'm damn good at it too.
Try it out, see if you can beat diamond in under 150 seconds like i can. `8r)
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I was unable to script this setup because subseven uses a windows based gui. I was unable to find a command line version that did what I needed it to do. Basically, a command line version that would log in, remove the server, and log out would be great, but right now no such tool exists. in theory, I should have then been able to pass it to a for list with all my ip's i knew. Yes, it would have been nice, but cut and paste into the GUI was all I had the time. I've spoken with people at Cert and NetSec and was told that something like this in the works.
The long time was because not all hosts are on at the same time. The bot net seemed mostly international. so at the time that people in Japan are turning their computers on, people in the UK are turning their's off, etc. Hence, there was a constant flow of bots in and out of the channel. By grabbing the ip when they joined, I cut and pasted it to the subseven client program, and then removed the server. It was a REAL pain in the ass because the subseven server only allows ip's, not hostnames. Anyway, after around 8 hours of doing this, I felt that the botnet was permenantly crippled, and left the rest. The guy is getting followed by several people, removing the rest of the clients.
no, it wasn't the most elegant solution, and yes, it sucked. I should have packet sniffed the connections and recorded the output, so i could script the whole thing to automate it for this current botnet.
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Gonzo Granzeau
It was a huge project, took me around 8 hours to do, and was a huge pain in the ass. Subseven is a damn scary trojan, only has limited flooding abilities, but it can gather a lot of information and can redirect most anything. this would allow a cracker to gather personal information, bounce a web request off of it to use a stolen credit card, or ping flood some ip.
I hope to god they manage to catch these guys and that they don't pay much attention to the news.. heh.. i'm betting they are just using subseven to bounce off a client anyway, so their ip might be diguised. all I know is that 250 of these clients are no longer around because of me, and that makes me feel a little safer.
If anyone is involved in the clean up of these clients, please get in contact with me. I might be able to provide you with operational knowledge.
--
Gonzo Granzeau
How the fuck can you call yourself a geek when you're just discovering a culture that originated back in 1982 with Neuromancer and Burning Chrome. The idea of corporate versus underworld culture with an element of computer trickery has been around since the late 70's, and you're just now figuring this out? Hell, the cyberpunk literature style has been pimping this idea for the past 20 years, and was considered 'dead' until Snow Crash was produced.
You'd have been better off doing a review of the cyborg element of shadowrun, since that is becoming more possible recently. I'm sure you would have lots of people (like myself) who plan to get cyber implants once they become available to the public
So please, Rob, CT, even Cowboy Neal, turn Jon Katz onto some current literature, let him borrow a copy of a recent book. I'm tired of hearing about the latest revolution that happened ten generations ago. (computer time)
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Gonzo Granzeau
I think diffs in receipes will be an interesting venture... heh
Best of luck to this venture!--
Gonzo Granzeau
He's called 'The Wolf' in the film, maybe if only as a nickname. Maybe if you had watched it recently, you might have known that. and yes, why there are more, this one just recently came out on DVD.
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Gonzo Granzeau
But I was just disappointed with the later versions. Hence, why I said what I did.
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Gonzo Granzeau
Present day! Present Time! HAHAHAHAHAH
But still, an excellent anime. Here are further suggestions, all on DVD. I suggest you check out NetFlix as well, as they have Anime for rental over the net.
Ghost in the Shell: Popularized anime, big guns, naked girls, mecha, complex plot, this has everything that *is* anime. I think it's the perfect representation of the genre. And my favorite.
Bubble Gum Crisis: Another representation of the genre, it covers more of the mecha aspects, and was well done for the time. Good looking girls in powered armor, etc.
Legend of the Overfiend: a series, they recently released a box set of the first 5 disks, and the only ones worth getting. This is a 'tenticle porn' anime, and is another 'representative of the genre' things. If you ever wanted something that made your friends go 'holy crap!' check this out. NOT FOR KIDS!
Tenchi Muyo: An excellent series, following the exploits of tenchi. it's a television series, but they also have some movies on it.
Queen Emeraldas: A surprisingly good anime following the exploits of a female pirate and this little kid trying to make it in the world. It's got some pretty funny scenes and they have some really cool weapons.
Macros Plus: Unlike the first one, Macros Plus is good! (well, if you don't dig on the Minmae defense!) They have some excellent graphics, and a well thought out plot line. a classic mecha.
Neon Genesis Evangelion: giant mecca, younger actors, and very well drawn. This is an excellent anime to investigate.
Record of the Lotus Wars: Just like AD&D brought to anime. very well done.
Princess Mononoke: Soon coming to DVD! well, at least they keep on saying that. someday we'll get this great movie. a fantasy series, very very well done. Was VERY good because I saw it in the theatres.
Ranma 1/2: If you like cutsey slightly funny young girlish comedies, you might dig on this. It's not my thing, but it's still somewhat funny.
Castle of Caligistro: The spy adventures of Agent Wolf, an excellent early anime. It just came out on DVD. Another genre definer.
Project A-ko: AAHHHNOOOOOOO!!!! My personal nemesis. I hate this anime, but only because i hate C-ko. if you dig on mostly girls whining with the occational super human battle... but i HIGHLY recommend against it!
MD Geist: Another classic, very violent. Post apoclyptic genre.
Golden Boy: a voyaging student wandering the country side, VERY funny. `8r) This is a good example of humor done well... everywhere the boy goes, he finds love in a new form. most likely not for kids though. Not on DVD that I know of.
Iszer: The worst anime i've ever seen. avoid it.
All Purpose Cultural Cat Girl Nuku Nuku: Just look at the title! `8r) It's a decent anime, a happy present day, young girl type of anime. Nuku Nuku is superhuman, and it's also pretty funny. Not on DVD I don't think, can't remember
Anyway, that's all I can think of right now. There are others that are also very good classics that are not on DVD, such as Riding Bean, Akira, Appleseed, Dirty Pair, Vampire Hunter D, AD Tank Police, 3x3 eyes, Sakura Wars, and a buttload of different TV series. I highly suggest you check out an anime con sometime, I recently went to one in Chicago, and it was excellent. even got to see Cowboy Bebop for free. Which I then turned around and bought.
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and without the can, you can't get the source on the can.
and without the source, you can't brew your own version of the soda.
It's a conspiracy by the creators of trade shows i tell ya! Only hope they have some at DefCon. All I know is that I can't download their cola source from their web site. `8r/ OPEN SOURCE THE COLA RECEIPE NOW!
(and I don't mean the buggie perl script that assumes that once you start drinking a soda, the variable $reallyThirsty never changes. and I would most likely make a subroutine &recycle() that would be portable, for if you're drinking in your car, etc.)
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Gonzo Granzeau
There are elements of sulfur, ammonia, and carbon monooxide in way too great of quanities present in the atmosphere. True, all of these elements can be converted to a non-issue, except the sulfur. Not sure how they are going to get rid of that.
Secondly, how are they going to get a breathable atmosphere when the pressure there is nearly negligible. the atmosphere is only half a mile high, we have 14 miles of atmosphere on earth. The reduced biosphere is going to be hard pressed to remove all the cosmic rays.
It takes a lot more than a little oxygen to teraform a planet though.
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Gonzo Granzeau
'Groovy.' and 'Gimme some sugar baby...' are just stolen from other people too so... heh what goes around comes around.
but Ash was unique. `8r)
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Me, I took the easy route and started doing consulting gigs in the Chicago area. I make great money, I enjoy my work, 30 minute drive to work, and have a first class living situation. you can't beat living in the 'burbs in a house for 450 a month. `8r) and wow, I can concurrently save money, buy lots of toys, and go out all the damn time.
I have no regrets about not following the boom in CA, dispite the urging of all my friends. Besides, I remotely adminster a Linux box out there, isn't it enough to have your web page based there? `8r) (since there were no other midwest people chiming in... I figure i'd put my stake in about the dust bowl.)
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Gonzo Granzeau
'Is that guy downloading porn?'
'No, that's just the 405 on it's way to New Delhi.'
But, what can you expect from a country that left nuclear weapon computers available on the internet...
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Gonzo Granzeau
SOHO cable set (crimper, tester, rj-45's, punch down tool, booties) - $110
Tie wraps and glue clips - $6
Beer to convince friends to help - $24
The ability to surf porn and IRC from your room - Priceless
When the wireless solution you bought doesn't work with Linux, there's always Mastercard.
(Sorry, just did this project last week. `8r) )
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Gonzo Granzeau
Network Solutions could refuse to transfer domains to other registrars, but if they do for many institutions, they risk being audited by the government for refusing to give up their government instituted monopoly. ie, bad news for NSI, they are out of the 'give us free money' business of being a registrar.
But, if you never try, you'll never find out, will you? I know many people that have transfered domains around with no problems. But, how they react to a mass exodus, we'll see.
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Gonzo Granzeau
(that will teach me to preview before posting... bleh. sorry about the duplicate.)
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Gonzo Granzeau
Boy, it must be difficult to track that Anonymous Coward guy down, he is such a prolific poster. I mean, he posts almost as
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Gonzo Granzeau
Okay a couple steps for Register.com, my current domain registrar choice.
1. Get the PDF form. There is a web based version here, but it prints worse.
2. Fill it out
3. Get a photocopy of your drivers license or something and have it notorized.
4. Fax it or mail it. It takes around 3-4 days.
NSI can only block you if:
- The transfer request was initiated within the first 60 days of the original registration date
- There is a dispute over the domain name
- There is a pending bankruptcy of the domain name holder
- There is a dispute over the identity of the domain name holder
- At the discretion of the losing registrar
So be careful of the last clause. In theory, they are only shooting themselves in the foot, and the legal notification to change should hold up in court. and of course, the implied IANAL.I garnered all this info from the Register.com help pages in preperations for my domain transfer today. Also, I've been quite happy with Register.com's hosting so far, so this is all IMHO.
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Gonzo Granzeau
it's in the article? whoops. I had heard about the guy before hence why i posted the links. I didn't check which links the article supplied, sorry.
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Gonzo Granzeau
He's looking for an academic job, and some of his papers (Especially the project team that created the SPIN kernel stuff) are quite impressive.
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Would it be possible to have a CVS tree made available for slashcode? even if it's read-only, you might get some suggestions from the relatively intelligent coders we get here.
I think if this was done properly, some of the packaging efforts could be put a lower priority.
But I also have to say that complaining about a lack of decent packaging for home-brew code is kind of looking in the gift horse in the mouth. We're lucky to get a tar ball from people, i'm sure there are some packaging wizards out there who could fix it up with a decent autoconf script or in rpm or apt package format. Getting the majority of the code debugged, that's much more important.
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Gonzo Granzeau