I could go further too, If you offer a recovery option, let users recover with the information that's on file. If they didn't give much info, then it's going to be less secure, but that's the user's choice. I could give them my full name, date of birth, city, year that I created the account, and oh yeah, MY PASSWORD! Not to mention I could have told them who I had received mail from, just not who I sent it to (because I hadn't sent any email!) None of that was good enough.
I'm not sure how an automaker refusing to build vehicles capable of long distance travel would equate to the competing ones being "exclusive" by actually making practical long range vehicles....
Your internal combustion vehicle doesn't come with 20 DVDs. So no.
The entertainment option on most vehicles costs far more than a tablet and an external hard drive, will be obsolete sooner (in fact the whole idea that they're still installing DVD players in 2016 is laughable) and is tied to the vehicle. There's no good reason to choose that over a tablet. The tablet is more practical, more versatile, cheaper, and easier to upgrade in the future.
Not to mention, there is ZERO relation between the drivetrain of a vehicle and the entertainment system.
Ok, I'll state clearly how it could be better. Don't lock your users out when they make ONE typo!!! I've never seen any other service anywhere, ever, that doesn't allow at the very minimum 3 password attempts.
Nissan leafs use their garage at home, they're not really capable of long distance travel. Wait for the next generation one, maybe it can go a reasonable distance, or charge at a reasonable rate. EVERY automaker with the exception of Tesla is dragging their feet on EVs, doing everything in their power to slow the adoption of them. That's the whole reason we're even talking about Fuel Cells, it's simply a stall tactic on EVs. The legacy automakers will eventually compete in this space, but not a single one is serious about it yet.
"Microsoft has implemented a feature called smart password lockout, meant to add an extra level of protection when an account is attacked" I've already fallen victim to this one. I had an @live.com email address that I used for things that were guaranteed to spam me. Things that needed a one time authentication and such. Unfortunately I made a typo once while trying to access the account. One typo, on one attempt. I've now been permanently locked out of the account. They said they just need to verify that it's me, but there's no possible way to do so. They say I can give them a phone number to verify it, but they don't have my phone number on file in the first place. The next option was their account recovery tool, but it requires you tell them who you have sent mail to from the account, as I've only ever received mail in this account, and never sent anything out, I can't do that. I submitted the form anyway, but they tell me that they can't verify that I'm me so they won't unlock the account.
Mostly I can just create another throw away account, but unfortunately another service took this opportunity to try to "re-verify" me by sending an email to this now locked out account, and because I can't get that email, I'm also locked out of the other service.
Of course I should have known better, what idiot uses Microsoft for ANYTHING????
The Tesla Superchargers have 4-8 stalls at each station. In Canada I've never seen them more than half full, so I'm not worried. They're free for life.
Entertainment devices in normal mini-vans don't have 80gb of storage either, so don't hold EVs to a higher standard.
The Model S, and X both seat 7 people, and still have storage space.
The vast majority of people who justify a specific type of vehicle as being a "need" are wrong. Many people "need" an SUV, or a pickup, or a mini-van, but never do anything that a 4dr sedan couldn't do just as well, or better. That said, the X is basically a mini-van already, though they won't call it that because mini-vans aren't "cool" right now.
As for the notion that nobody is willing to give you a hard number. That's flat our wrong. Tesla has a range estimator on their website, there are also other great websites around with this information. I personally love evtripplanner as I find it's estimates to be amazingly accurate.
Here's an example road trip I have done several times, Calgary to Vancouver. Depart Calgary AB, Straight through to Golden BC, charge while eating lunch. Drive from Golden BC to Revelstoke BC, charge long enough to use the washroom and grab a snack from the convenience store Drive to Kamloops BC, Charge while eating supper, One last stop at in Hope BC and arrive in Vancouver
Total distance of approximately 980km, over high mountain passes.
In my old diesel I had to fuel only once, but I still made the same number of stops because I still needed to eat and use the washroom.
To be 100% honest, if you're the type of person who runs in to a gas station, grabs a sandwich, and eats it while driving, an EV will add a small amount of time to your long distance trip, while saving you a lot of time in the city, over the course of a year you'll still come out ahead. However, if you actually stop to eat, even at a fast food place, the EV trip will be about the same time as a trip in an internal combustion vehicle.
Model s had as much storage space as some mini vans (amazing what you can do without an engine taking up so much space) and has a range of about 300km with an outside temp differential in the winter of 40 degrees (tested by me). (Further for the newer 90kwh versions) model x has even more interior space and is designed to compete in the CUV segment. As for entertainment options. People keep their cars for a long time, so any built in tech is guaranteed to be obsolete too soon. Get a tablet it's cheaper than almost any entertainment option, more versatile, and easier to upgrade in the future. If you want it mounted in the vehicle, there are many good third party mounting options.
EVs are way more convenient than gas already. You wake up every morning with a full tank, and never have to visit a fueling station when driving around town. On long road trips (which for the vast majority of people is only a few times a year) the car fuels while you eat, and is usually done before you are. No Stradbroke by three filler while it fuels, no smell of gas on your hands, and cheaper too. Additionally there are no oil changes and no worries about starting in extreme cold weather. Driving an EV for the past 8 months has shown me just how inconvenient gasoline vehicles are!
Fuel cell vehicles are a way of getting the worst of both worlds. All the range anxiety, all the environmental damage, all the cost and complexity, all the inconvenience of gas stations, with none of the advantages of either platform.
So it's more than a decade behind battery technology now, and progressing at a fraction of the rate that batteries are, but if we just throw enough money at it, maybe in a couple decades it will catch up to where batteries are today, and we're sure there won't be any more progress on batteries ever again.....
The current state of electric road tripping is to stop for half an hour every 250 miles. And most people need to stop about that often anyway. Meanwhile the current state of hydrogen fuel cell travel is to drive for less than 200 miles, and never refuel because there are effectively no stations. Meanwhile electric cars go further, and charge faster every year, and you can build at least 10 (likely closer to 100) charging stations for the cost of 1 hydrogen station.
Hydrogen only sounds like a good idea if you run an oil company. For anyone in the real world EVs won almost a decade ago, and the sooner the big automakers stop dragging their feet on it the better.
25 meg plan here (TELUS) showed 27 meg which is what I get when downloading files and matches speedtest.net, unfortunately when I ran it a second time it showed 6 meg, and now refuses to go higher, but speedtest.net and actual downloads from various sites still show 27 meg. So something isn't right here.
For me fast.com was dead on for the first run. Matched perfectly with speedtest.net and every download that I do. However when I ran it a second time it gave me a result less than a quarter of that speed, and now won't go back up to my actual speed. I'm betting a lot of ISPs are about to be flooded by calls from users who don't understand the internet complaining that this new site says their connection is slow even though the ISP is actually providing the speed the customer paid for.
Do you need standing to complain to the EC? Because if so, the only one likely to complain is Google, and conveniently they just signed an agreement with MS not to complain to regulators. I'm sure the timing of this announcement so shortly after that agreement was signed is a mere coincidence...
In completely unrelated news, Microsoft and Google just signed an agreement not to complain to regulators about each other.... someone at Google is incredibly naive
So you claim that we solved the previous problem by reversing automation? I didn't know that we undid the industrial revolution. I'm not saying that the process couldn't be smoother, I'm just saying that the massive unemployment people say will be the norm forever more has been debunked based simply on the fact that unemployment is lower today than it was pre industrialy. Automation has not led to massive unemployment so far, there's absolutely no reason this would magically be different. If history is any gauge, the end result will be, add it always had been, a more productive society, a bigger standard of living, and new jobs and industries that we can't even imagine today.
I'm only stating what has happened continously for all of recorded history. If you have some evidence that this is different, I'd love to hear it. Automation has been eliminating jobs since the wheel was invented, yet we live better than ever before, and with a lower unemployment rate than we had a a pre industrial society.
The great depression was not caused by automation, you're the first person I've ever seen suggest that. But even if it were, your argument still doesn't hold up because a decade or two later we had less unemployment, and a better standard of living. If automation was really so bad, and caused unemployment, we'd never have recovered unless we had reversed the process of automation, which we didn't.
Again, all of history disagrees. When one backhoe replaced a dozen workers unemployment s didn't increase, those people ended up with jobs that couldn't even be imagined before. To say that we'll all be unemployed is to say that humanity will stop innovating and progressing. Sure we may be able to stagnate at our current level with high unemployment, but we've never chosen that path before, why would we chose it now?
Wrong again, the factory jobs definitely needed more qualification than the previous jobs. working machines is always more skilled than not doing so. Imagine going from digging with a shovel, to digging with a backhoe, needs more training.
This scare has been happening since someone invented fire, or the wheel, it hasn't materialized yet. Instead we just get more and more productive.
If what you were saying was true, all of this industrialization would have lead to higher unemployment, and stagnant living conditions. The opposite has happened, there's lower unemployment, and higher living conditions.
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8-tracks still play music too, but you'd probably laugh if you saw an 8-track player in your new car.
I could go further too,
If you offer a recovery option, let users recover with the information that's on file. If they didn't give much info, then it's going to be less secure, but that's the user's choice.
I could give them my full name, date of birth, city, year that I created the account, and oh yeah, MY PASSWORD! Not to mention I could have told them who I had received mail from, just not who I sent it to (because I hadn't sent any email!)
None of that was good enough.
I'm not sure how an automaker refusing to build vehicles capable of long distance travel would equate to the competing ones being "exclusive" by actually making practical long range vehicles....
Your internal combustion vehicle doesn't come with 20 DVDs. So no.
The entertainment option on most vehicles costs far more than a tablet and an external hard drive, will be obsolete sooner (in fact the whole idea that they're still installing DVD players in 2016 is laughable) and is tied to the vehicle. There's no good reason to choose that over a tablet. The tablet is more practical, more versatile, cheaper, and easier to upgrade in the future.
Not to mention, there is ZERO relation between the drivetrain of a vehicle and the entertainment system.
Ok, I'll state clearly how it could be better.
Don't lock your users out when they make ONE typo!!! I've never seen any other service anywhere, ever, that doesn't allow at the very minimum 3 password attempts.
20 DVDs take more storage space than one portable USB hard drive. So yes, you are.
Nissan leafs use their garage at home, they're not really capable of long distance travel. Wait for the next generation one, maybe it can go a reasonable distance, or charge at a reasonable rate.
EVERY automaker with the exception of Tesla is dragging their feet on EVs, doing everything in their power to slow the adoption of them. That's the whole reason we're even talking about Fuel Cells, it's simply a stall tactic on EVs. The legacy automakers will eventually compete in this space, but not a single one is serious about it yet.
Yes I give every random website on the internet my phone number... why not?
"Microsoft has implemented a feature called smart password lockout, meant to add an extra level of protection when an account is attacked"
I've already fallen victim to this one. I had an @live.com email address that I used for things that were guaranteed to spam me. Things that needed a one time authentication and such. Unfortunately I made a typo once while trying to access the account. One typo, on one attempt. I've now been permanently locked out of the account.
They said they just need to verify that it's me, but there's no possible way to do so. They say I can give them a phone number to verify it, but they don't have my phone number on file in the first place. The next option was their account recovery tool, but it requires you tell them who you have sent mail to from the account, as I've only ever received mail in this account, and never sent anything out, I can't do that. I submitted the form anyway, but they tell me that they can't verify that I'm me so they won't unlock the account.
Mostly I can just create another throw away account, but unfortunately another service took this opportunity to try to "re-verify" me by sending an email to this now locked out account, and because I can't get that email, I'm also locked out of the other service.
Of course I should have known better, what idiot uses Microsoft for ANYTHING????
The Tesla Superchargers have 4-8 stalls at each station. In Canada I've never seen them more than half full, so I'm not worried.
They're free for life.
Entertainment devices in normal mini-vans don't have 80gb of storage either, so don't hold EVs to a higher standard.
The Model S, and X both seat 7 people, and still have storage space.
The vast majority of people who justify a specific type of vehicle as being a "need" are wrong. Many people "need" an SUV, or a pickup, or a mini-van, but never do anything that a 4dr sedan couldn't do just as well, or better. That said, the X is basically a mini-van already, though they won't call it that because mini-vans aren't "cool" right now.
As for the notion that nobody is willing to give you a hard number. That's flat our wrong. Tesla has a range estimator on their website, there are also other great websites around with this information. I personally love evtripplanner as I find it's estimates to be amazingly accurate.
Here's an example road trip I have done several times, Calgary to Vancouver.
Depart Calgary AB, Straight through to Golden BC, charge while eating lunch.
Drive from Golden BC to Revelstoke BC, charge long enough to use the washroom and grab a snack from the convenience store
Drive to Kamloops BC, Charge while eating supper,
One last stop at in Hope BC and arrive in Vancouver
Total distance of approximately 980km, over high mountain passes.
In my old diesel I had to fuel only once, but I still made the same number of stops because I still needed to eat and use the washroom.
To be 100% honest, if you're the type of person who runs in to a gas station, grabs a sandwich, and eats it while driving, an EV will add a small amount of time to your long distance trip, while saving you a lot of time in the city, over the course of a year you'll still come out ahead. However, if you actually stop to eat, even at a fast food place, the EV trip will be about the same time as a trip in an internal combustion vehicle.
Model s had as much storage space as some mini vans (amazing what you can do without an engine taking up so much space) and has a range of about 300km with an outside temp differential in the winter of 40 degrees (tested by me). (Further for the newer 90kwh versions) model x has even more interior space and is designed to compete in the CUV segment.
As for entertainment options. People keep their cars for a long time, so any built in tech is guaranteed to be obsolete too soon. Get a tablet it's cheaper than almost any entertainment option, more versatile, and easier to upgrade in the future. If you want it mounted in the vehicle, there are many good third party mounting options.
EVs are way more convenient than gas already. You wake up every morning with a full tank, and never have to visit a fueling station when driving around town. On long road trips (which for the vast majority of people is only a few times a year) the car fuels while you eat, and is usually done before you are. No Stradbroke by three filler while it fuels, no smell of gas on your hands, and cheaper too.
Additionally there are no oil changes and no worries about starting in extreme cold weather.
Driving an EV for the past 8 months has shown me just how inconvenient gasoline vehicles are!
Fuel cell vehicles are a way of getting the worst of both worlds. All the range anxiety, all the environmental damage, all the cost and complexity, all the inconvenience of gas stations, with none of the advantages of either platform.
So it's more than a decade behind battery technology now, and progressing at a fraction of the rate that batteries are, but if we just throw enough money at it, maybe in a couple decades it will catch up to where batteries are today, and we're sure there won't be any more progress on batteries ever again. ....
The current state of electric road tripping is to stop for half an hour every 250 miles. And most people need to stop about that often anyway. Meanwhile the current state of hydrogen fuel cell travel is to drive for less than 200 miles, and never refuel because there are effectively no stations.
Meanwhile electric cars go further, and charge faster every year, and you can build at least 10 (likely closer to 100) charging stations for the cost of 1 hydrogen station.
Hydrogen only sounds like a good idea if you run an oil company. For anyone in the real world EVs won almost a decade ago, and the sooner the big automakers stop dragging their feet on it the better.
25 meg plan here (TELUS) showed 27 meg which is what I get when downloading files and matches speedtest.net, unfortunately when I ran it a second time it showed 6 meg, and now refuses to go higher, but speedtest.net and actual downloads from various sites still show 27 meg.
So something isn't right here.
For me fast.com was dead on for the first run. Matched perfectly with speedtest.net and every download that I do. However when I ran it a second time it gave me a result less than a quarter of that speed, and now won't go back up to my actual speed.
I'm betting a lot of ISPs are about to be flooded by calls from users who don't understand the internet complaining that this new site says their connection is slow even though the ISP is actually providing the speed the customer paid for.
Do you need standing to complain to the EC? Because if so, the only one likely to complain is Google, and conveniently they just signed an agreement with MS not to complain to regulators. I'm sure the timing of this announcement so shortly after that agreement was signed is a mere coincidence...
In completely unrelated news, Microsoft and Google just signed an agreement not to complain to regulators about each other. ... someone at Google is incredibly naive
So you claim that we solved the previous problem by reversing automation? I didn't know that we undid the industrial revolution.
I'm not saying that the process couldn't be smoother, I'm just saying that the massive unemployment people say will be the norm forever more has been debunked based simply on the fact that unemployment is lower today than it was pre industrialy. Automation has not led to massive unemployment so far, there's absolutely no reason this would magically be different.
If history is any gauge, the end result will be, add it always had been, a more productive society, a bigger standard of living, and new jobs and industries that we can't even imagine today.
I'm only stating what has happened continously for all of recorded history. If you have some evidence that this is different, I'd love to hear it. Automation has been eliminating jobs since the wheel was invented, yet we live better than ever before, and with a lower unemployment rate than we had a a pre industrial society.
The great depression was not caused by automation, you're the first person I've ever seen suggest that. But even if it were, your argument still doesn't hold up because a decade or two later we had less unemployment, and a better standard of living. If automation was really so bad, and caused unemployment, we'd never have recovered unless we had reversed the process of automation, which we didn't.
Again, all of history disagrees. When one backhoe replaced a dozen workers unemployment s didn't increase, those people ended up with jobs that couldn't even be imagined before.
To say that we'll all be unemployed is to say that humanity will stop innovating and progressing.
Sure we may be able to stagnate at our current level with high unemployment, but we've never chosen that path before, why would we chose it now?
Wrong again, the factory jobs definitely needed more qualification than the previous jobs. working machines is always more skilled than not doing so. Imagine going from digging with a shovel, to digging with a backhoe, needs more training.
This scare has been happening since someone invented fire, or the wheel, it hasn't materialized yet. Instead we just get more and more productive.
If what you were saying was true, all of this industrialization would have lead to higher unemployment, and stagnant living conditions. The opposite has happened, there's lower unemployment, and higher living conditions.