I noticed the deliberate lack of images on that news page showing this oh-so-beautiful hologram. The editor of this article obviously thinks this is cool, but they didn't mention any bad points at all(how much bandwidth the thing hogs, lag, funky setups etc).
The only advantage this thing has over cheaper video conferencing setups is that it is pretty. But is it really better looking than the other stuff? Without any images we can't tell... :
Doesn't it somehow seem appropriate that this hologram(teleport) technology may never be little more than vaporware?
1. Internet company opens it's doors. Promises tons of kool stuff at low/normal prices with lots of free extras.
2. The company gets tons of people comming;mainly due to hype and the free stuff.
3. The comany makes jack and the management panics. Suddenly all the free stuff isn't free anymore, and the terms change.
4. People get ticked off at being charged for what was once free and the loss of the services that inticed them to come to begin with. Sometimes it is still a good deal; sometimes it isn't. Either way people are angry.
5. People go to someone else (or just go) and the company is even worse off. Often this kills the company.
Sure it can; legal teams always site lost productivity (in hugly exagerated figures) to smash hackers into the ground.
Granted they rarely get much $ that way(probably never more than the lawyers fees) but who says the satisfaction of legally crushing someone doesn't have value? :
the suit is anti-competitive!? I think having a monopoly on pre-installed deskop OS is anti-competitave. Normal people dont even know how to buy a new computer that doesn't have windows on it; I have never met a non-nerd who has purchased a computer without windows on it.
Supposedly it is this anti-competative facet of MS that they are fighting. (more likely they are just after some $)
But I thought that applied to only to regular ink. I think/. had an article on how some forms of printer ink didn't last more than a few years before getting icky. If this method is done on a very hi-res level, it won't last long with such ink. :
BTW I realize that they were mainly talking about doing this to whole images rather than in text, but it says at sufficient resolution it looks like regular printer artifacts. I just figured putting it in text would be the next step, although all the whitespace would be a bit of a problem.
We could inbed it into real pictures now!:P I would think it may be a more secure way of sending around data (in the context of a place where nobody knows that the images etc. had a code in it to begin with).
The US government is having a fit right now with the ease at which coded messages can be sent (supposedly by evil people everywhere) via the internet. What are they going to do about someone sending one time padded messages in a sheet of text? A love letter could really be a terrorist timeline. A letter from a soldier to his family could actually be a spy message intended for the 'other side.'
The US gov has already limited net encryption to 128 bits; will they step in and try to regulate this? I would think so...
If it makes big $ for companies, then it means someone is getting the cure, right? There is a thing called 'insurance' that will pay at least part of the fees. It is all part of living in our (deteriorating?) market system.
To me, the question is whether they are or aren't spending the cpu cycles on a cancer cure. I would rather there be a cure that isn't free (is there such thing as a free cure?) than none at all. OTOH if they are spending.05% of the cpu time on the cancer problem and ~99% of it doing website stress tests, then I would not be happy.
I suspect they took a look at similar projects, like SETI@home. That project has had people trying to hack their clients without the benefit of source code; why make it easy for them? Is it truely necessary?
Supposedly some of the hacks weren't intended to make false posatives, but to change the method in which they are processed to increase the rate at which they can process packets. So we have people trying to claim finding aliens, people trying to raise their stats and people genuinly trying to help(but missing the point of doing a standardized calculation).
I bet there are people who would want to do the same hacks for the same reasons (as unreasonable as it may be) with this project.
That is an anime series in which some aliens teamed up with the Nazis. The brits then countered by using stolen alien technology to make giant steam-powered robots called Kishins. The Nazis then countered that buy creating a mass-producable superior Kishin, but only the normal tech parts were superior(the alien interface basically assimilated their pilots, so no pilot could survive using the Nazi Panzer Kishin more than once). The aliens were armed with Tommy-guns and were almost liquid; they would try to force themselves into your blood vessels and take over your body! They also exploded if you blasted them, so Japanese guys used katanas to kill the japanese.
The series ended with a big free for all battle, Brits vs Nazis vs Aliens vs Japanese.
Nobody, not even my most trusted family members are allowed to install software on my computers! Nor would they want to- they always get me to do it:>
BTW when my computer gets clogged up with tons of large programs I uninstall them, not delete their icons. I like to keep all my commonly used software available on my desktop. Then when it isn't commonly used anymore it gets uninstalled.
You mean like the legal max. of 128 bit encryption so that the encoded info would be easy for the gov. to grab? It seems to me that encryption that was made to be easily broken is kind of a bad idea. :
That may actually be kind of a good idea:put a netzone-esque STOP button for modem activity. At least that may actually help someone when they figure out their computer is being hacked.
Sure the power button works, but some people are not rational when they think some l33t hacker is on their case. A panic button OTOH...
Ultimately this means that they are sending your password over the net... anyone between your computer and their mainframe can see your password. That is a nice 'feature.'
I dont even know what the point is anymore? Maybe they should stop even trying to be secure. I find it hard to believe that a programmer came up with this jewel; it sounds like something some 'executive' who can barely bid on ebay thought up. :
Applying the 'lets make tons of features for the sake of making them' didnt work for web browsers and it certainly doesnt work with security.
That reminds me of when I had my cable modem installed. The guy freaked when he saw 50 shortcuts on my desktop and 30 on my start bar. He said "that is not the kind of thing we like to see."
I can understand how running tons of different programs/games/etc. can make life harder for tech support in general, but what do they expect us do do with a $1500 computer? Only play solitare?
Indeed, it would be a poor 'hacker' who couldn't manipulate a machine (s)he had physical access to, even if the OS was magically near bug-free.
Also, as long as you can get a copy of any kind of protection program running on your own computer to play with, it will not protect anyone else effectively. Unfortunately, most protections are of this nature(as is necessary for mass production for pc use) so they stink in general.
Why would an operating system need 3 gigs of hd space and 128 megs ram minimum!? That is insane. You need to build a system to use the os, rather than getting an os to use a system.
I admit the hd requirement is probably for their goback feature, which can proabably be reduced if necessary (the gateway goback program has an option to reduce or enlarge the size of the database, limiting or increasing the extent to which you can 'goback' to).
But why is everything else so nasty that even ms admits that it will only work good preinstalled on a new computer?
My only explanation is that they made this bloatware in order to get people to pay extra for an outrageously powerful system, since right now most people are either happy with what they have or are paying $450 for a low-end (only 450 Mhz!) Gateway...
"Some people argue that this doesn't matter because we can just use non-protected data on our free OS'es. But what happens to people who want to dual-boot? They won't be able to access ANYTHING on their non-free OS partitions using Open Source software."
What happens when an OS doesn't do anything? It dies. MS wants compatability, they aren't about to make their own software useless.
"Imagine this: You're browsing in your free OS of choice and you go to access some page that uses copy controls. Suddenly, you get a kernel panic due to a memory I/O failure. Your copy control enabled memory has just refused to write a block of data.. (say an image from the web page) because it detected the encrypted header of the data you tried to access and it was not in authentication mode. "
Only a fool would make their products, software or webpages, only work on a few computers. Many say this was the big problem with apple/mac.
I think even a businessman can see that in terms of business models, this is a bad idea. It is all so horrably stupid that I bet all this is just talk meant to make somebody (the MPAA?) feel better.
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The only advantage this thing has over cheaper video conferencing setups is that it is pretty. But is it really better looking than the other stuff? Without any images we can't tell... :
Doesn't it somehow seem appropriate that this hologram(teleport) technology may never be little more than vaporware?
I think we have heard this story before.
1. Internet company opens it's doors. Promises tons of kool stuff at low/normal prices with lots of free extras.
2. The company gets tons of people comming;mainly due to hype and the free stuff.
3. The comany makes jack and the management panics. Suddenly all the free stuff isn't free anymore, and the terms change.
4. People get ticked off at being charged for what was once free and the loss of the services that inticed them to come to begin with. Sometimes it is still a good deal; sometimes it isn't. Either way people are angry.
5. People go to someone else (or just go) and the company is even worse off. Often this kills the company.
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Sure it can; legal teams always site lost productivity (in hugly exagerated figures) to smash hackers into the ground.
Granted they rarely get much $ that way(probably never more than the lawyers fees) but who says the satisfaction of legally crushing someone doesn't have value? :
the suit is anti-competitive!? I think having a monopoly on pre-installed deskop OS is anti-competitave. Normal people dont even know how to buy a new computer that doesn't have windows on it; I have never met a non-nerd who has purchased a computer without windows on it.
Supposedly it is this anti-competative facet of MS that they are fighting. (more likely they are just after some $)
But I thought that applied to only to regular ink. I think /. had an article on how some forms of printer ink didn't last more than a few years before getting icky. If this method is done on a very hi-res level, it won't last long with such ink. :
BTW I realize that they were mainly talking about doing this to whole images rather than in text, but it says at sufficient resolution it looks like regular printer artifacts. I just figured putting it in text would be the next step, although all the whitespace would be a bit of a problem.
We could inbed it into real pictures now! :P I would think it may be a more secure way of sending around data (in the context of a place where nobody knows that the images etc. had a code in it to begin with).
The US government is having a fit right now with the ease at which coded messages can be sent (supposedly by evil people everywhere) via the internet. What are they going to do about someone sending one time padded messages in a sheet of text? A love letter could really be a terrorist timeline. A letter from a soldier to his family could actually be a spy message intended for the 'other side.'
The US gov has already limited net encryption to 128 bits; will they step in and try to regulate this? I would think so...
If it makes big $ for companies, then it means someone is getting the cure, right? There is a thing called 'insurance' that will pay at least part of the fees. It is all part of living in our (deteriorating?) market system.
.05% of the cpu time on the cancer problem and ~99% of it doing website stress tests, then I would not be happy.
To me, the question is whether they are or aren't spending the cpu cycles on a cancer cure. I would rather there be a cure that isn't free (is there such thing as a free cure?) than none at all. OTOH if they are spending
I suspect they took a look at similar projects, like SETI@home. That project has had people trying to hack their clients without the benefit of source code; why make it easy for them? Is it truely necessary?
Supposedly some of the hacks weren't intended to make false posatives, but to change the method in which they are processed to increase the rate at which they can process packets. So we have people trying to claim finding aliens, people trying to raise their stats and people genuinly trying to help(but missing the point of doing a standardized calculation).
I bet there are people who would want to do the same hacks for the same reasons (as unreasonable as it may be) with this project.
That is an anime series in which some aliens teamed up with the Nazis. The brits then countered by using stolen alien technology to make giant steam-powered robots called Kishins. The Nazis then countered that buy creating a mass-producable superior Kishin, but only the normal tech parts were superior(the alien interface basically assimilated their pilots, so no pilot could survive using the Nazi Panzer Kishin more than once). The aliens were armed with Tommy-guns and were almost liquid; they would try to force themselves into your blood vessels and take over your body! They also exploded if you blasted them, so Japanese guys used katanas to kill the japanese.
:P
The series ended with a big free for all battle, Brits vs Nazis vs Aliens vs Japanese.
No, I did not make this up.
Nobody, not even my most trusted family members are allowed to install software on my computers! Nor would they want to- they always get me to do it :>
BTW when my computer gets clogged up with tons of large programs I uninstall them, not delete their icons. I like to keep all my commonly used software available on my desktop. Then when it isn't commonly used anymore it gets uninstalled.
Heck, nowdays there are trojans that can do things users can't do, or at least do easily. Especially if the user is a grandmother...
You mean like the legal max. of 128 bit encryption so that the encoded info would be easy for the gov. to grab? It seems to me that encryption that was made to be easily broken is kind of a bad idea. :
hopefully there will be a way to automate changing those settings. Then it can become part of the P2P installation programs.
That may actually be kind of a good idea:put a netzone-esque STOP button for modem activity. At least that may actually help someone when they figure out their computer is being hacked.
Sure the power button works, but some people are not rational when they think some l33t hacker is on their case. A panic button OTOH...
Ultimately this means that they are sending your password over the net... anyone between your computer and their mainframe can see your password. That is a nice 'feature.'
I dont even know what the point is anymore? Maybe they should stop even trying to be secure. I find it hard to believe that a programmer came up with this jewel; it sounds like something some 'executive' who can barely bid on ebay thought up. :
Applying the 'lets make tons of features for the sake of making them' didnt work for web browsers and it certainly doesnt work with security.
As I said in an earlier post, if you have it on your own comp you can play with it and figure it out.
Encode a silent wav and see what you get;that will give you some insight as to how the format works. Reverse engineering:fun for the whole family!
That reminds me of when I had my cable modem installed. The guy freaked when he saw 50 shortcuts on my desktop and 30 on my start bar. He said "that is not the kind of thing we like to see."
I can understand how running tons of different programs/games/etc. can make life harder for tech support in general, but what do they expect us do do with a $1500 computer? Only play solitare?
Well, in the corporate world your employers own your email anyway; this is probably a reflection of that princible.
It seems that we have less and less privacy nowsays. :
Indeed, it would be a poor 'hacker' who couldn't manipulate a machine (s)he had physical access to, even if the OS was magically near bug-free.
Also, as long as you can get a copy of any kind of protection program running on your own computer to play with, it will not protect anyone else effectively. Unfortunately, most protections are of this nature(as is necessary for mass production for pc use) so they stink in general.
So are you saying that it doesn't really have extreme requirements? That they are just exagerated?
:>
If you are testing it, tell us more please.
They said that it was based off of windows2000... wouldn't that imply that it has simailar stability and security issues?
Why would an operating system need 3 gigs of hd space and 128 megs ram minimum!? That is insane. You need to build a system to use the os, rather than getting an os to use a system. I admit the hd requirement is probably for their goback feature, which can proabably be reduced if necessary (the gateway goback program has an option to reduce or enlarge the size of the database, limiting or increasing the extent to which you can 'goback' to). But why is everything else so nasty that even ms admits that it will only work good preinstalled on a new computer? My only explanation is that they made this bloatware in order to get people to pay extra for an outrageously powerful system, since right now most people are either happy with what they have or are paying $450 for a low-end (only 450 Mhz!) Gateway...
"Some people argue that this doesn't matter because we can just use non-protected data on our free OS'es. But what happens to people who want to dual-boot? They won't be able to access ANYTHING on their non-free OS partitions using Open Source software." What happens when an OS doesn't do anything? It dies. MS wants compatability, they aren't about to make their own software useless. "Imagine this: You're browsing in your free OS of choice and you go to access some page that uses copy controls. Suddenly, you get a kernel panic due to a memory I/O failure. Your copy control enabled memory has just refused to write a block of data.. (say an image from the web page) because it detected the encrypted header of the data you tried to access and it was not in authentication mode. " Only a fool would make their products, software or webpages, only work on a few computers. Many say this was the big problem with apple/mac. I think even a businessman can see that in terms of business models, this is a bad idea. It is all so horrably stupid that I bet all this is just talk meant to make somebody (the MPAA?) feel better.