An AC wrote: " While you're rolling on the floor laughing your donkey off remember that you are living in a non-democratic country where the majority of your fellow citizens did not vote for the dictator currently in power."
1. Thanks to third party canidates the Gorebot did Not recive a "majority" of votes cast. Canidates who do recive a majority of the votes are becoming the exception, not the rule.
2. Thanks to a 50 to 55% voter turnout a president who got 30% of the citizens to vote for him is very rare and is called a "landslide" victory.
3. Since Prince Albert the Lying Hearted made Nixon look ethical, LBJ look Honest, and Carter look compatant, I'm delighted that his support was so geographicly narrow that it doomed his bid for the Whitehouse.
4. Although I voted for a third party canidate in 2000, I'll be supporting Bush in 2004, and Jeb Bush in 2008 and 2012 for one reason. Just so I can continue to enjoy watching the Gorebot's fan club's whinning and crying. Y'all are funnier than hell!
ROFLMAO In Floridia the Ballot design is decided by the County, NOT the state. Palm Beach County is a Democratic stronghold. Democrats designed that Ballot. So much for that part of the CONspircy theory to explain the Gorebots loss.
I Never thought I'd see the day a canidate for President would explain his loss by saying The people who supported me were too dumb to use a ballot style that has been around for years.
The choice of canidate's in that election reminded me of a movie title, "Dumb and Dumber". Dumb got to the Whitehouse, while Dumber managed to disgust many of the independants who voted for him.
If you want to look for an election that was stolen, I'd suggest you look at the 1960 election. Massive voter fraud in Chicago and Texas cost Richard Nixon the election. Nixon had a far stronger case than Gore for challenging the results, but Nixon decided that casting the legitimacy of the Presidancy in doubt would cause far more harm to the country than having a President who won by skulldugary. Nixon of all people outdid Gore on Ethical behaviour.
1. It isn't that Christians aren't welcome, it's that a statement from a Christian perspective is as open to crictism here as any other statement. Just because you think Christian ideas are beyond crictism dosen't mean evrybody does.
2. Hostility towards other world views and religions has been part of Christanity since it's founding."I Am the way" is the fundemental belief in Christanity and has led to the hostility towards other beliefs.
He also didn't have enough brains to pass Journalism school. Think of all the dumb questions asked at press confrences. These people were smart enough to get through the school Gore flunked out of.
"christianity has been pretty much the same for the last 2000 years"
Are you saying that Christians still want to burn Witches, Torture and kill Heretics, Supress the Heliocentric theory of the Solar System, Sieze Temples and Shrines belonging to other faiths, and conquer the Holy Land?
"It just doesn't seem ethical to not allow other corporations use a technology just because someone else discovered it first."
Who is going to discover it? Who is going to sink millions into R&D without any hope of recovering the costs?
If If was the CEO of a corparation, the day they banned patents is the day my entire R&D staff would be fired. Why would I sink money into developing new inventions when I can simply copy the invention some fool paid to develop? Of course the other CEOs will do the same thing, so I won't have to worry about them developing new ideas. I won't have to worry about the hoards of Sciencists dumped on the streets becoming private inventors because they will lack the million dollar budgets, and be too busy earning a living to devote thier full time to research.
"The bottom line is that companies feel like the should be the only one to profit from their inventions."
Oh those damn EVIL Companies! After sinking hundreds of Millions into R&D that might or might not produce a viable product, they actually expect a return on the investment!
Do you really think they would spend one cent on R&D if they couldn't recover the costs? Do you think some inventer in a garage will somehow come up with millions to spend on R&D?
"...but I can understand why a person whose income depended on their inventions would want to patent things."
Yes, but should we, as a society, let him?
Do you want to see Coparate R&D budgets slashed or eliminated? Do you realize that these R&D programs have produced most of the inventions of the past century?
I Refuted the "Slave" argument befor pointing out that Senator Calhoun's agenda when he first proposed it. The majority of the people I have seen repeating Senator Calhoun's argument desire a variation of the system he was defending. Slavery was a system where the state forced one man to work for another. Now it's an attempt to force one man to employ another. The benificary of the act of force is changed, but like Calhoun they want the state to back up the wishes of one of the parties in a work agreement with the state's power to coerce obeidance. The Idea of using force is abhorant, who uses it is just a detail. If Force is used by either side it is no longer a free agrement.
good rationale? Business suits say "we are serious" when a prospective client is visting to elvaluate a company. Just because you fail to understand the rationale dosen't mean there isn't one. It's a matter of setting a good impression.
Do you expect certain standards of conduct from guests in your home or do you "enslave" them by insisting that they refrain stripping off thier cloths, screwing your Wife, kicking your dog or other actions you find objectable?
When you wish to go on another person's properity you either conform to thier rules of conduct, or you refrain from entering thier properity. If you don't like it, don't go there. Go somewhere that has standards of conduct that meet you taste instead of acting like a boor and hurling insults.
If one of my employees accused me of being a Slaver for setting standards of conduct on my properity , I'd glady "emancipate" his ass. I Want workers, not spoiled children who cry if they can't have thier way.
"Anyone who dresses as a hollow corporate clone is a SLAVE. People should begin emancipating themselves from the corporate mindset."
ROTFLMAO,
Kid, for starters your drivel is an insult to people who lived in actual slavery. A Year under the lash in a cotten field or in a Siberian Gulag, and you might learn just how stupid your ideas are.
Secondly you might want to look up who first came up with the "Wage Slave" drivel you're spouting. A Fellow by the name of John C. Calhoun, a Slaveowner making the absurd claim that his Chattels were better off than free workers.
Wine is a quick fix that will screw Linux in the long run.
It will kill any chance of commerical software development for Linux, all you'll Win Aplications that may or may not have all the features availble under Windows. It's selling any long term future for short term gains.
"Why is it that I have heard of the C64 but never or C128? Could it be that it was not nearly as popular because it was far more expensive than the C64? Would anyone have bought that machine at all if it wasn't compatible with the C64? "
Hmmm... Ignorant of the C128's existance, but qualified to speak about it? The problem was it was 100% compatable with a C64. Venders openly stated they had no plans to develop C128 software because the C64 software covered the market. The C128 had a larger market share than Linux Desktops have now but the market was ignored because the less capable C64 software covered it.
"Could it be that it was actually an unpopular OS that did not want to run on anything except expensive IBM hardware? "
OS/2 ran on any x86 platform and OS/2 Boxsets outsold Windows Box sets. Windows won because of the OEM preinstalls. OS/2 was also a more popular Desktop at the Time than Linux is today.
"10th grade thinking at work. Companies don't determine if they should port something using the number of excuses they can come up with. They determine that by looking at statistics, numbers, and projections. When you have 0 potential users on Linux, you don't get ports. When you have 10,000 users who are using the WINE version and who want a native one, companies will make one."
Companies decide ports on one thing, costs vs profits. If a Windows ap runs on Linux there is ZERO cost in supporting it on Linux with the Windows Application. Companies have a limited development budget and if the Windows Aplication covers the Linux market, the money will be spent on a Mac port or another Windows Aplication, not on a Linux port.
WINE is a repeat of the mistake that Commodore and IBM made.
Even worse, what's the point of giving software venders an excuse not to port software over to Linux?
Commodore introduced the C128 that could run Aplications in C128 mode or C64 mode. Allmost no aplications were developed for C128 mode because all the C128 users could run C64 Aplications in C64 mode.
IBM had OS/2 that could run Windows Aplications, and few venders bothered with writting OS/2 native aplications.
There is little chance that Wine will ever run Windows applications as good as they run on Windows. There is a chance that they will run good enough to give venders an excuse not to bother creating real Linux versions of their software.
"And just because a tool CAN be used to violate a law, does not make it a violation to have or use it. I can use a crowbar to break into your house, or even to kill you with. Does that make me owning a crowbar illegal? What if I use my crowbar only for legal purposes - ripping out the boards in my house, or prying rocks loose? Is it still illegal?"
I'd say these tools are more like a bong than a crowbar. You can load the bowl with tobacco or a legal herbal mixture, but that isn't what the majority of bong owners are smoking in them.
Bruce, Even if it was a company that engaged in outright extortion, ie "we just found this hole, pay us $10,000 by Friday or we release it", some advice my Mother gave me comes to mind.
Two Wrongs Don't Make a Right
HP's Customer's are inocent third parties in this matter. Once the exploit was released, no matter how shady the people who released it were, HP should have been trying to notify it's customers instead of engaging in a futile attempt to put the cat back in the bag. HP has increased the harm to innocent third parties by not contacting them, and now their actions have insured that the code for the exploit is more widely distrubited than before.
SnoSoft's actions may have been wrong, but that did not give HP a license to engage in wrong actions of their own.
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The Soviet state was blataly expanionist. It openly admitted that it's long term goals were to introduce Soviet style gonernments in all nations. It openly admited that control of nations outside western Europe and North America would place it in a postion to control the NATO nations, without a war if possible, with a war if nessacary.
The USA responed to the Soviet attempt to outflank Nato through control of areas that were not part of the NATO alliance. Failure to respond to the threat of Soviet Imperlism would have been as suicidal as The UK and France's attempts at appeasing Hitler almost turned out to be.
Standing Idly by while a hostile state that has made it's intentions to amass enough power to overcome you clear is an incredible act of foolishness.
The USSR's policies started the Cold War. It's insistance on attempts to export it's form of government made ending it impossible.
The "end the Cold War" nonsense in the west was seldom anything other than a attempt to end any attempt to foil Soviet Imperalism without even pretending to ask for anything in return from the Soviet Union, and ammounted to a call for an abject surrender to an Expansionist Power.
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Students might want to learn, but left to their own devices they won't always learn the right things. You have to set goals. Many students have zero intrest in learning math, science, history, etc. There is little use for knowing the rosters of the NBA teams, the lyrics of Metillica's songs etc.
It dosen't matter what format you put a math lesson in, if the student isn't intrested in learning Math, he won't learn it. You have to get their intrest and that means either you find that rare gem, a teacher who can inspire students to want to learn math, or you use a reward/punishment method where students who learn math recieve a reward (ie good grades) and students who don't learn math recieve a punishment (ie bad grades)
There is no way you will ever get enough teachers capable of inspiring students to learn for the love of knowledge. Even when you do have this kind of teacher they can't reach everybody so the reward/punishment system has to be maintained. The more current schools get away from it, the worse the results.
The idea that "poverity" causes crime or gangs is an insult to the majority of poor people who are honest. Crime is a learned behaviour. The Criminal attitude of getting something for nothing, of things are there to be taken instead of earned is a cause of poverity. Children learn the attitude that creates criminals from their parents, or from their peers who learned it from their parents. Poverity dosen't cause Crime, it's the other way around. Crime causes Poverity.
There is another thing you are failing to take into account. The effects of Culture on learning. Some cultures place a higher value on learning than others. Some Oriental Cultures and Jewish Culture have traditionally placed a higher value on learning, and students from these backgrounds tend to do better than students who's cultures don't place a high value on learning. Place a Student who's culture hasn't placed a high value on learning in a system that lacks a reward/punishment mechinism and you have a formula for disaster, one where you create vast differences in the educational achivements because of cultural differences.
Perhaps the USSR's habit of stating world communism was their goal had something to do with it. Maybe turning the nations in Eastern Europe into Soviet Colonies gave us a reason to take the statements serious.
The Cold war was the result of the USSR's attempts to export it's despotic form of government. Blaiming the US for it's efforts to counter this is like blaiming France and the UK for starting World War II by siding with Poland when Hitler attacked them.
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Hell if we need ta hear from 'em we'll jus kick thier asses and make 'em learn ta talk American instead of all that gibberish!
" While you're rolling on the floor laughing your donkey off remember that you are living in a non-democratic country where the majority of your fellow citizens did not vote for the dictator currently in power."
1. Thanks to third party canidates the Gorebot did Not recive a "majority" of votes cast. Canidates who do recive a majority of the votes are becoming the exception, not the rule.
2. Thanks to a 50 to 55% voter turnout a president who got 30% of the citizens to vote for him is very rare and is called a "landslide" victory.
3. Since Prince Albert the Lying Hearted made Nixon look ethical, LBJ look Honest, and Carter look compatant, I'm delighted that his support was so geographicly narrow that it doomed his bid for the Whitehouse.
4. Although I voted for a third party canidate in 2000, I'll be supporting Bush in 2004, and Jeb Bush in 2008 and 2012 for one reason. Just so I can continue to enjoy watching the Gorebot's fan club's whinning and crying. Y'all are funnier than hell!
In Floridia the Ballot design is decided by the County, NOT the state. Palm Beach County is a Democratic stronghold. Democrats designed that Ballot. So much for that part of the CONspircy theory to explain the Gorebots loss.
I Never thought I'd see the day a canidate for President would explain his loss by saying The people who supported me were too dumb to use a ballot style that has been around for years.
The choice of canidate's in that election reminded me of a movie title, "Dumb and Dumber". Dumb got to the Whitehouse, while Dumber managed to disgust many of the independants who voted for him.
If you want to look for an election that was stolen, I'd suggest you look at the 1960 election. Massive voter fraud in Chicago and Texas cost Richard Nixon the election. Nixon had a far stronger case than Gore for challenging the results, but Nixon decided that casting the legitimacy of the Presidancy in doubt would cause far more harm to the country than having a President who won by skulldugary. Nixon of all people outdid Gore on Ethical behaviour.
2. Hostility towards other world views and religions has been part of Christanity since it's founding."I Am the way" is the fundemental belief in Christanity and has led to the hostility towards other beliefs.
Are you saying that Christians still want to burn Witches, Torture and kill Heretics, Supress the Heliocentric theory of the Solar System, Sieze Temples and Shrines belonging to other faiths, and conquer the Holy Land?
Who is going to discover it?
Who is going to sink millions into R&D without any hope of recovering the costs?
If If was the CEO of a corparation, the day they banned patents is the day my entire R&D staff would be fired. Why would I sink money into developing new inventions when I can simply copy the invention some fool paid to develop? Of course the other CEOs will do the same thing, so I won't have to worry about them developing new ideas. I won't have to worry about the hoards of Sciencists dumped on the streets becoming private inventors because they will lack the million dollar budgets, and be too busy earning a living to devote thier full time to research.
Oh those damn EVIL Companies!
After sinking hundreds of Millions into R&D that might or might not produce a viable product, they actually expect a return on the investment!
Do you really think they would spend one cent on R&D if they couldn't recover the costs?
Do you think some inventer in a garage will somehow come up with millions to spend on R&D?
Yes, but should we, as a society, let him?
Do you want to see Coparate R&D budgets slashed or eliminated?
Do you realize that these R&D programs have produced most of the inventions of the past century?
Business suits say "we are serious" when a prospective client is visting to elvaluate a company. Just because you fail to understand the rationale dosen't mean there isn't one. It's a matter of setting a good impression.
When you wish to go on another person's properity you either conform to thier rules of conduct, or you refrain from entering thier properity. If you don't like it, don't go there. Go somewhere that has standards of conduct that meet you taste instead of acting like a boor and hurling insults.
If one of my employees accused me of being a Slaver for setting standards of conduct on my properity , I'd glady "emancipate" his ass. I Want workers, not spoiled children who cry if they can't have thier way.
Why?
(free speech) slavery?
Sounds like "freedom is slavery".
Now where have I heard that?
ROTFLMAO,
Kid, for starters your drivel is an insult to people who lived in actual slavery. A Year under the lash in a cotten field or in a Siberian Gulag, and you might learn just how stupid your ideas are.
Secondly you might want to look up who first came up with the "Wage Slave" drivel you're spouting. A Fellow by the name of John C. Calhoun, a Slaveowner making the absurd claim that his Chattels were better off than free workers.
It will kill any chance of commerical software development for Linux, all you'll Win Aplications that may or may not have all the features availble under Windows. It's selling any long term future for short term gains.
Hmmm... Ignorant of the C128's existance, but qualified to speak about it? The problem was it was 100% compatable with a C64. Venders openly stated they had no plans to develop C128 software because the C64 software covered the market. The C128 had a larger market share than Linux Desktops have now but the market was ignored because the less capable C64 software covered it.
"Could it be that it was actually an unpopular OS that did not want to run on anything except expensive IBM hardware? "
OS/2 ran on any x86 platform and OS/2 Boxsets outsold Windows Box sets. Windows won because of the OEM preinstalls. OS/2 was also a more popular Desktop at the Time than Linux is today.
"10th grade thinking at work. Companies don't determine if they should port something using the number of excuses they can come up with. They determine that by looking at statistics, numbers, and projections. When you have 0 potential users on Linux, you don't get ports. When you have 10,000 users who are using the WINE version and who want a native one, companies will make one."
Companies decide ports on one thing, costs vs profits. If a Windows ap runs on Linux there is ZERO cost in supporting it on Linux with the Windows Application. Companies have a limited development budget and if the Windows Aplication covers the Linux market, the money will be spent on a Mac port or another Windows Aplication, not on a Linux port.
WINE is a repeat of the mistake that Commodore and IBM made.
Commodore introduced the C128 that could run Aplications in C128 mode or C64 mode. Allmost no aplications were developed for C128 mode because all the C128 users could run C64 Aplications in C64 mode.
IBM had OS/2 that could run Windows Aplications, and few venders bothered with writting OS/2 native aplications.
There is little chance that Wine will ever run Windows applications as good as they run on Windows. There is a chance that they will run good enough to give venders an excuse not to bother creating real Linux versions of their software.
I'd say these tools are more like a bong than a crowbar. You can load the bowl with tobacco or a legal herbal mixture, but that isn't what the majority of bong owners are smoking in them.
Even if it was a company that engaged in outright extortion, ie "we just found this hole, pay us $10,000 by Friday or we release it", some advice my Mother gave me comes to mind.
Two Wrongs Don't Make a Right
HP's Customer's are inocent third parties in this matter. Once the exploit was released, no matter how shady the people who released it were, HP should have been trying to notify it's customers instead of engaging in a futile attempt to put the cat back in the bag. HP has increased the harm to innocent third parties by not contacting them, and now their actions have insured that the code for the exploit is more widely distrubited than before.
SnoSoft's actions may have been wrong, but that did not give HP a license to engage in wrong actions of their own.
The USA responed to the Soviet attempt to outflank Nato through control of areas that were not part of the NATO alliance. Failure to respond to the threat of Soviet Imperlism would have been as suicidal as The UK and France's attempts at appeasing Hitler almost turned out to be.
Standing Idly by while a hostile state that has made it's intentions to amass enough power to overcome you clear is an incredible act of foolishness.
The USSR's policies started the Cold War. It's insistance on attempts to export it's form of government made ending it impossible.
The "end the Cold War" nonsense in the west was seldom anything other than a attempt to end any attempt to foil Soviet Imperalism without even pretending to ask for anything in return from the Soviet Union, and ammounted to a call for an abject surrender to an Expansionist Power.
It dosen't matter what format you put a math lesson in, if the student isn't intrested in learning Math, he won't learn it. You have to get their intrest and that means either you find that rare gem, a teacher who can inspire students to want to learn math, or you use a reward/punishment method where students who learn math recieve a reward (ie good grades) and students who don't learn math recieve a punishment (ie bad grades)
There is no way you will ever get enough teachers capable of inspiring students to learn for the love of knowledge. Even when you do have this kind of teacher they can't reach everybody so the reward/punishment system has to be maintained. The more current schools get away from it, the worse the results.
The idea that "poverity" causes crime or gangs is an insult to the majority of poor people who are honest. Crime is a learned behaviour. The Criminal attitude of getting something for nothing, of things are there to be taken instead of earned is a cause of poverity. Children learn the attitude that creates criminals from their parents, or from their peers who learned it from their parents. Poverity dosen't cause Crime, it's the other way around. Crime causes Poverity.
There is another thing you are failing to take into account. The effects of Culture on learning. Some cultures place a higher value on learning than others. Some Oriental Cultures and Jewish Culture have traditionally placed a higher value on learning, and students from these backgrounds tend to do better than students who's cultures don't place a high value on learning. Place a Student who's culture hasn't placed a high value on learning in a system that lacks a reward/punishment mechinism and you have a formula for disaster, one where you create vast differences in the educational achivements because of cultural differences.
The Cold war was the result of the USSR's attempts to export it's despotic form of government. Blaiming the US for it's efforts to counter this is like blaiming France and the UK for starting World War II by siding with Poland when Hitler attacked them.