>But most of the females I have encountered have little or no interest in >programming - even the CS majors. Most of them just don't seem to quite >understand the appeal. I don't mean to say that women can't get involved >in programming - it'd be >nice to see more!
*snip*
Yes, it would, wouldn't it? I've gotten into html quite a bit over the years, but other than that, I can't seem to take much of an intrest in programming. And I'm not sure why either. Did I mention that I was a female?
miyax
P.S: Just out of curiosity, how many of you out there are chicks?
Throughout my time on the internet, spending endless hours searching for whatever, I've found that the fewer matches means that you're more likely to find what you're looking for : ) Hence, according to the given statistics, if I go looking for information on making bombs, I'm much more likely to find that info, rather than a simple recipe. And anyway, did anyone realize where any of those words could have been mentioned? Both "good" and "evil" could have been mentioned on both a porn and a "violent" site a billion times. Good sites don't actually say on them, "I am a good site. I don't promote evil things." See? That page would have come up for both good and evil. I may just be repeating what was already said by someone previously...don't mind me if I am. The fact of the matter is that this test, while it seems like a good idea, isn't concluding or varifying anything in the longrun. And why should we shelter our children anyway? If we hide them away from, "bad" things, aren't we just corrupting them further and making wusses out of them? If a child (say middle school, high school age) hasn't seen a picture of a naked body, a naked anything, yet, then they'll be uncomfortable with the subject for quite some time. I'm comfortable with it. I work with 5 year olds, and some of them do talk about private parts, and even violence, and that scares me. So, yes, at around that age, it's the parents' fault and they should be more aware of that stuff. But later on, who cares?
Yeah seriously. A report like this does not surprise me. Sometimes I don't watch tv at all during a day. And the only things I do watch are 120 Minutes, some cartoons here and there, and some other stuff when I'm bored. On another note, yes, I can say I know people who watch 10 hours of tv a day : ) Most of them are my age (high school kids), so I suppose that's not saying much for the Future of Our Country, is it?
I think, in some way (and yes I know this has been mentioned before) that/. is doing much of the same thing that Wired/Hotwired did. In a different format, yeah, but different is sometimes good.
Why else would I be here? : )
One of the first websites I ever found (and the first one I actually became a member of) was Hotwired, and this announcement strikes me cold. I read Hotwired as religiously as I do/., but after about 7 or 8 months felt it was starting to change. Maybe it was a change in the features, or maybe not. I really don't remember why I stopped.
Every once in a while, when I have nothing to do, I'll visit Hotwired, or I'll go down to Barnes & Noble and pick up Wired, and afterwards suffer from eyestrain or call someone up and debate business matters (kidding).
Oddly, I first found out about/. in a copy of Wired, and took interest.
But on another note, why are search engines these days getting so...comercial? They're just frickin search engines!! I've been using Lycos and Yahoo since the begining, and now I can't stand either of them. I don't want a free home page and free e-mail, and I don't want a personalized news page, and I don't want to bid online for Pokemon cards, I just want to find what I need!
Anyone agree?
miyax _________________________________________________ "I want an Internet. Can I have one of these?" - Mel B. (Scary Spice)
...Mr. Metcalf may be right. Windows has just gotten too big, even for itself. And Gates won't let it leave just like that, especally because it won't. Remember those +12mil AOL users? They're all using Windows...
But WHY?!! It's not fair! People work their asses off all their lives to get where Bill is (and they still don't, sadly) and they make good software that doesn't take up 110 meg and doesn't crash right before you go to save and works the way it's supposed to! But Bill always wins in the end. People don't accept change that well.
And because the majority of the people using Windows are light-weight computer users anyway (by that I mean people who just get on the internet to talk to their friends, and check e-mail). My only knowledge of Linux comes from hours of sitting in front of a computer and reading Slashdot. Even computer-knowledgable people don't understand the GPL or X or any of that other stuff.
Windows is easy. Change is hard. Windows gets shoved in their faces on a daily basis, and that's how they know it exsists. It's marketing, people, the same way AOL made it's fortune. Linux has no marketing as of now, and if we wish to save it, we're gonna need one hell of a marketing strategy by the time W2K comes out.
And secondly, more software needs to be avalible to the masses that's Linux-compatable in order for this thing to work.
Very good. OT, I believe Gateway is the current owner of the Amiga, and has established it as it's own subdivision: Amiga International. Hence the cheese and cow relationship isn't that far-fetched : ) miyax
Yes. Ignore them. I've been trying to ignore those AOL users for about 4 years now, and yet their numbers keep growing. : ) I'll admit, I'm new to Linux. But the only reason I want to use it is because I hate Windows very, very much. I'm not using it because I don't exactly have the free hd space right now. But I'm not using AOL...
>But most of the females I have encountered have little or no interest in >programming - even the CS majors. Most of them just don't seem to quite >understand the appeal. I don't mean to say that women can't get involved >in programming - it'd be >nice to see more!
*snip*Yes, it would, wouldn't it? I've gotten into html quite a bit over the years, but other than that, I can't seem to take much of an intrest in programming. And I'm not sure why either.
Did I mention that I was a female?
miyax
P.S: Just out of curiosity, how many of you out there are chicks?
This is pretty cool, but is it possible to go the opposite direction? I mean, play stereo output through a sound card?
miyax
Throughout my time on the internet, spending endless hours searching for whatever, I've found that the fewer matches means that you're more likely to find what you're looking for : )
Hence, according to the given statistics, if I go looking for information on making bombs, I'm much more likely to find that info, rather than a simple recipe.
And anyway, did anyone realize where any of those words could have been mentioned? Both "good" and "evil" could have been mentioned on both a porn and a "violent" site a billion times. Good sites don't actually say on them, "I am a good site. I don't promote evil things." See? That page would have come up for both good and evil.
I may just be repeating what was already said by someone previously...don't mind me if I am.
The fact of the matter is that this test, while it seems like a good idea, isn't concluding or varifying anything in the longrun.
And why should we shelter our children anyway? If we hide them away from, "bad" things, aren't we just corrupting them further and making wusses out of them? If a child (say middle school, high school age) hasn't seen a picture of a naked body, a naked anything, yet, then they'll be uncomfortable with the subject for quite some time.
I'm comfortable with it.
I work with 5 year olds, and some of them do talk about private parts, and even violence, and that scares me. So, yes, at around that age, it's the parents' fault and they should be more aware of that stuff.
But later on, who cares?
miyax
Yeah seriously. A report like this does not surprise me. Sometimes I don't watch tv at all during a day. And the only things I do watch are 120 Minutes, some cartoons here and there, and some other stuff when I'm bored.
On another note, yes, I can say I know people who watch 10 hours of tv a day : ) Most of them are my age (high school kids), so I suppose that's not saying much for the Future of Our Country, is it?
miyax
I think, in some way (and yes I know this has been mentioned before) that /. is doing much of the same thing that Wired/Hotwired did. In a different format, yeah, but different is sometimes good.
/., but after about 7 or 8 months felt it was starting to change. Maybe it was a change in the features, or maybe not. I really don't remember why I stopped.
/. in a copy of Wired, and took interest.
Why else would I be here? : )
One of the first websites I ever found (and the first one I actually became a member of) was Hotwired, and this announcement strikes me cold. I read Hotwired as religiously as I do
Every once in a while, when I have nothing to do, I'll visit Hotwired, or I'll go down to Barnes & Noble and pick up Wired, and afterwards suffer from eyestrain or call someone up and debate business matters (kidding).
Oddly, I first found out about
But on another note, why are search engines these days getting so...comercial? They're just frickin search engines!! I've been using Lycos and Yahoo since the begining, and now I can't stand either of them. I don't want a free home page and free e-mail, and I don't want a personalized news page, and I don't want to bid online for Pokemon cards, I just want to find what I need!
Anyone agree?
miyax
_________________________________________________
"I want an Internet. Can I have one of these?" - Mel B. (Scary Spice)
...Mr. Metcalf may be right. Windows has just gotten too big, even for itself. And Gates won't let it leave just like that, especally because it won't. Remember those +12mil AOL users? They're all using Windows...
But WHY?!! It's not fair! People work their asses off all their lives to get where Bill is (and they still don't, sadly) and they make good software that doesn't take up 110 meg and doesn't crash right before you go to save and works the way it's supposed to! But Bill always wins in the end. People don't accept change that well.
And because the majority of the people using Windows are light-weight computer users anyway (by that I mean people who just get on the internet to talk to their friends, and check e-mail). My only knowledge of Linux comes from hours of sitting in front of a computer and reading Slashdot. Even computer-knowledgable people don't understand the GPL or X or any of that other stuff.
Windows is easy. Change is hard. Windows gets shoved in their faces on a daily basis, and that's how they know it exsists. It's marketing, people, the same way AOL made it's fortune. Linux has no marketing as of now, and if we wish to save it, we're gonna need one hell of a marketing strategy by the time W2K comes out.
And secondly, more software needs to be avalible to the masses that's Linux-compatable in order for this thing to work.
Sorry if I seem like I'm just rambling on here...
-miyax
Very good. OT, I believe Gateway is the current owner of the Amiga, and has established it as it's own subdivision: Amiga International. Hence the cheese and cow relationship isn't that far-fetched : ) miyax
Yes. Ignore them. I've been trying to ignore those AOL users for about 4 years now, and yet their numbers keep growing. : )
I'll admit, I'm new to Linux. But the only reason I want to use it is because I hate Windows very, very much. I'm not using it because I don't exactly have the free hd space right now.
But I'm not using AOL...
miyax