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Feature: Good vs. Evil on the World Wide Web
More evidence of Internet goodness:
Life got 23,765,261 results;
Death got only 5,973,580.
Love got 14,985,600 results;
Lust got only 889,330.
God got 5,596,690 results;
Satan only got 164,850;
Devil only got 635,160.
Marriage got 3,626,700 results;
Divorce only got 649,930.
Heaven got 977,930 results;
Hell only got 707,410.
Joy got 1,137,460 results;
Sorrow only got 190,740.
Linux got 3,461,380 results;
Unix got 1,948,040 results;
Windows NT only got 1,208,125.
Intelligence got 1,888,970 results;
Stupidity only got 77,430.
Apparently those misguided souls who condemn the World Wide Web as some sort of hellhole (3965 results) need to think again. The word Education was mentioned on 34,470,924 Web pages, while a search for Ignorance only came up with 141,530. And, despite endless yammer about kids getting hold of bomb-building instructions online, cruising the World Wide Web is statistically more likely to make them fat than to teach them how to blow up buildings; the word cooking netted 2,167,210 Web pages, the word Bomb only got 622,050, and the phrase homemade bombs only brought up 662.
Religious believers should take heart from the fact that Salvation drew 280,700 AltaVista responses, while Damnation only came up with 8141. Christians, instead of condemning the Internet as immoral, might want to change their tune and start boasting about their online dominance - the word Christian drew 6,715,031 results, as opposed to 93,240 for Jew, 322,740 for Muslim, 279,990 for Buddhist, and 236,420 for Hindu, while the word Atheist only came up with 78,870 pages.
What does all of this mean? I have no idea. This small (but rigorously unscientific) study, like the psychic hotlines advertised heavily on late-night cable TV, is meant to be used for entertainment purposes only. Please feel free to add to it (or subtract from it) and draw your own conclusions, which I'm sure will be far more insightful than any I could possibly come up with on my own.
A lot of people here missed the tongue firmly planted in Roblimo's cheek!
:)
This is hilarious! And about as valid as most statistical surveys
ZDNet-UK put up some pages a while back doing this same kind to trick. They call it the Tool of Objective Truth (TOOT - http://www.zdnet.co.uk/athome/misc/toot/ )
Random samples :
52983 William Shakespeare
161536 Spice Girls
1521 Earth is Round
1554 Earth is Flat
7454141 God
134036 Beatles
left boob: about 200
right boob: about 100
left nut: about 1000
right nut: about 200
first: 46,192,904
last: 32,779,468
from altavista. Hrmm...
Sagan's book may be fiction, but if you look long enough you *will* find a circle embedded in PI. You will also find all the works of Shakespere encoded in ascii (as well as EBCDIC somewhere else in the sequence). The infinite monkeys are hard at work inside PI. (This is the point Sagan seemed to miss in the ending of his book. Even if She *found* a circle in PI that would prove nothing.)
Don't label something "offtopic" unless you know the topic well enough to tell what's on topic.
Perhaps you have just as much time to waste...
You're the one cutting into *your* time by replying to my post.
Maybe you're the one that needs to learn how to filter.
Who posts these moronic comments anyway?
Soul: 961,540
"auction soul": 4
The stuff you'll find on ebay...
I think it means that third Guiness kicked in...
Throughout my time on the internet, spending endless hours searching for whatever, I've found that the fewer matches means that you're more likely to find what you're looking for : )
Hence, according to the given statistics, if I go looking for information on making bombs, I'm much more likely to find that info, rather than a simple recipe.
And anyway, did anyone realize where any of those words could have been mentioned? Both "good" and "evil" could have been mentioned on both a porn and a "violent" site a billion times. Good sites don't actually say on them, "I am a good site. I don't promote evil things." See? That page would have come up for both good and evil.
I may just be repeating what was already said by someone previously...don't mind me if I am.
The fact of the matter is that this test, while it seems like a good idea, isn't concluding or varifying anything in the longrun.
And why should we shelter our children anyway? If we hide them away from, "bad" things, aren't we just corrupting them further and making wusses out of them? If a child (say middle school, high school age) hasn't seen a picture of a naked body, a naked anything, yet, then they'll be uncomfortable with the subject for quite some time.
I'm comfortable with it.
I work with 5 year olds, and some of them do talk about private parts, and even violence, and that scares me. So, yes, at around that age, it's the parents' fault and they should be more aware of that stuff.
But later on, who cares?
miyax
http://www.hepl.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp/~mitsuru/pi-e. html
The world record for PI digits stands at 52,539,607,510 digits. Again, you can download some of these over at:
ftp://www.cc.u-tokyo.ac.jp
What I want to know is, why are the Japanese obsessed with knowing PI to this kind of accuracy? Carl Sagan's book was FICTION, guys!
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
"Mmmm bop": 81 "decapitate Hanson": 1 Where did humanity go wrong?
oxymoron n : conjoining contradictory terms (as in `deafening silence') Source: WordNet ® 1.6 Searched with: www.dictonary.com
May this post be indexed by spiders, and archived for all to see as my Internet epitaph.
Hey! Since when is Lust the "evil counterpart" of Love? Shouldn't it be Love vs Hate?
Anyway, for the record:
Love: 4,911,400
Hate: 221,950
I don't care if it's 90,000 hectares. That lake was not my doing.
IIRC,the basic search will search for variations of words i.e. "bad" might also return "badly", whereas the advanced search only grabs exactly what you tell it to. Incidentally, I almost never use basic searches when I'm looking for something very specific.
Picard - 112690
Now can we put this to rest once and for all.
Jainway rules
Thanks for the tip! :P.
Now atleast I have something to write about
May this post be indexed by spiders, and archived for all to see as my Internet epitaph.
At first look I thought that "...and Boring" was a post in reply about how useless and boring the root post "Useless" was. Then I realized that you replied to your own post.... does this mean that you see that you are boring? It does seem to be that way when you reply to your own post and say "this post was pretty boring too."
Hey, Carl, Let's keep to messages with a point on Slashdot, could we? Or atleast read all of the stuff about how these numbers are not scientific, just funny?
Wheeeee
"You got your chocolate in my beanut butter" : 2,025,616 "You got you peanut butter om my chocolate" : 2,025,616 hmmm...
I think that equating religion with goodness. may be a bit much. On the other hand, that may just be there because the religious nuts tend to be the ones dissin' the Internet the most. Yet, that only proves their ignorance, fearmongering, and evilness.
For example, look at Messianics.
--Andrew Grossman
grossdog@dartmouth.edu
cunt: 3,533,980
fanny: 406,400
cock: 5,417,170
dick: 3,409,130
asian: 10,951,500
babe: 2,274,540
clitoris: 1,193,510
penis: 2,492,140
tits: 8,107,770
blowjob: 2,545,810
anal: 8,542,770
fucking: 7,663,870
nude: 21,656,226
lolita: 4,091,670
pussy: 16,735,630
If you really wanna do it right.. use something like metacrawler or dogpile... combo search engines rather than just one. ;-) - Trazom28 who can't remember his password :p
Giants are a [Baseball,Football] team. I forget which, since I hate/don't care about sports.
Both, actually. New York Giants in football and San Francisco Giants in baseball.
- Vincit qui patitur.
I recommend you get The Best of the Annals of Improbable Research, a collection of some of the better articles of the AIR. One of them is specifically about comparing apples and oranges - using a mass spectrometer. :)
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"'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
"'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
Quine "quine?
They think that kids *enjoy* watching pornography, and they're on a holy mission to save them from themselves.
Kids don't enjoy pornography? Gee, none of them ever turned me down...
Nevermind that the average 9 year old would just be grossed out at the concept of boys and girls.. well.. you know.
That's why you show them the gay porno; it's much more interesting to the 9 year olds.
(It's a JOKE, folks... and yes, I know my sense of humor will get me in trouble one day...)
I call my bb The Owl Farm Kitchen. For a long time, people mistook it for being some sort of wholesome place to post because it contained the word Kitchen. I would get all sorts of Christian people in "Come see my site" sort of thing. Then they realized that it was a rather depraved place to be! I love it, fooling people like that.
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I second that motion. How about we retire those older-then-dirt links on the right side of /. with some interesting and more noteworthy links. Or we could tell the truth and have it say "Perhaps you were born yesterday and you are seeking Jon Katz's series of articles related to 'recent' ... "
Wheeeee
So "good" shows up more then "evil"?
Slashdot = 27,060
Ziff-Davis = 224,075
Doesn't look good, guys.
Then again, I think the bad guys have all the fun.
Which has an intrinsic goodness to it, which is what Twin Peaks (25,381 hits) was all about. Cherry pie and Good and Evil.
support gun control: take guns from cops
and search for the entire string? Because when I did it yielded 0 results...
You didn't do a search on "sex" or "xxx". Probably close to a billion hits back.
Pi rules!!
3.1415926535.....
In fact you can search faster by first breaking up all the sentences into words and matching against the words than trying to match an arbitrary string against another string. Say you had a sentence of 20 words, averaging five letters a word, and you were trying to match a six-letter word. Breaking at word boundries means you only have to try to match 20 times. On the other hand, 20 words * 5 letters/word (+the space) means you have 120 characters. Matching a six-character string means making 115 (!) comparisons. (Wouldn't have to match after the first 115 chars because not enough chars left in the string.)
DNA is a Turing machine. You, however, being dynamic and emergent, are not.
I know too many people that don't realize that the things they like/enjoy are evil. Many people think that cop killer type rap "music" is good; I think it is bad.
I assume that evil sites are seldom marketed as an "evil" site; Madison Avenue has taught us to use "good" to people you try to attract to such sites? However, I define these sites as evil.
Yea, so now I did a search of Windows AND computers, which came up with 12,515,783 Web pages.
Maybe the engine is turning up things like Georgia Cracker, Polly want a cracker? :-)
using altavista:
+G: 25,848,206
+E: 149,211,983
winner: E!
I liked the article
You didnt
BUT
you replied to your reply
which means tht you once again added to the waste YOU hate.
Ladies and gentlemen lets here it for Filberts, the amazing Example of Self Posting Pugilists.
Knock yerself out man, respond to this response:)-
Poor little clams! Snap! Snap! Snap! Poor little clams! Snap! Snap! Snap! Poor little clams! Snap! Snap! Snap!
foo: 185,310
bar: 15,260,090
What the hell??? According to this, "bar" is way better than "foo", but personally I like foo!
BTW: Due to this message, this page can now be added to the evil list since the word hell appears in it several times. Does that make us all evil?
148615 losers, but 1358860 pages with winners!
Guess everyone's a winner then?
Ark
"I build my canopy of steel.. it fulfills my sense of real.. a chrome protection" - Catherine Wheel
Check out these results from FAST:
yin: 136,038
yang: 592,155
This imbalance is undoubtedly the result of more men than women using the internet
(yang=male, yin=female).
Either that or it's just a coincidence caused by my lazy and scientifically worthless technique.
"size matters" 4469 Web pages.
"size doesn't matter" 2182 Web pages.
I knew it!
This post has been smiley captioned for humour impaired.
I can think of a thousand things that are "good" that I don't want my kids to see.
>WIth an even more exciting methodology, the OS >Sucks/Rules-o-meter [snip] They would have better luck finding hits for AS/400 than for the "OS/400" stats on the page....
It is Evil^2^2^2^2 that you feel this way.
Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas.
Your comments are way more interesting than Jon Katz's
CY
Everyone knows that 63.5% of all statistics are made up on the spot
>WIth an even more exciting methodology, the OS Sucks/Rules-o-meter
[snip]
They would have better luck finding hits for AS/400 than for the "OS/400" stats on the page....
A sure sign that there is more good on the 'net than evil!
Lucent to merge with INS for $3.7 billion
War, famine, and pestilance haven't suddenly disappeared. Rather, politicians have learned to ignore them, because it's easier to get elected if you promise to fight some demon you're invented than the real problems.
Gates' Law: Every 18 months, the speed of software halves.
Ah, the carefully selected small sample- the statisticians best friend...
47,981,595 for "die"
only 20,239,900 for "live"
163120 for "insane"
only 103430 for "sane"
1,065,430 for "gates"
a meager 30010 for "torvalds" !!!
void post { post_random_comment("slashdot.org"); karma--; }
Considering that Altavista hasn't even indexed, what, 20% of the available webpages? That makes for a considerable margin of error. What's worse, a lot of those might have gone 404. So let's take the results with a grain of salt, okay people?
I'd also like to point out that politicians tend to note the presence of things, not the absence - just because good outweighs evil online doesn't mean they see it that way. They think that kids *enjoy* watching pornography, and they're on a holy mission to save them from themselves. Nevermind that the average 9 year old would just be grossed out at the concept of boys and girls.. well.. you know.
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Though you accuse the other of wasting time, the author of wasting time, and will probably me of wasting time...
...I am of the beleif that it is not us that is wasting time, time is wasting us !!!!!
:)
All these findings are easily explained by the incredible amount of advertising (more likely to use words with good connotations) and religious fanatic sites (which will talk about being 'saved' and the glory of god and the kingdom of heaven more often than they will warn of the smoking pits of hell) Anyway, I know it's just a joke to begin with.
Vidi, Vici, Veni
>What does all of this mean? I have no idea.
It means you have way too much free time.
Hacker - 483,080
Cracker - 86,129
Fed - 741,680
8-bit monkeys, 4-bit ducks
Hmm this might say something if every web page page that contained "evil" content contained the word "evil", or every word that contained "good" content contained the word "good". Besides the fact that these are largely subjective terms, and the fact that a very small portion of the web is even indexed in search engines.
Butthead - 78760
Shut up buttmunch!
Posted by NJViking:
Anyone see that series? It's pretty cool!
fuck you - 21221
pie: 735,420
cake: 708,370
PIE RULES!
www.evil.com has a much more interesting site.g
In fact, with a slightly modified version of the Operating Systems Sucks-Rules-O-Meter, I found 2 websites that contained "Slashdot rules," while none for "Segfault rules". There were no websites with the phrases "Slashdot sucks" or "Segfault sucks," however.
Interesting, huh?
:-)
Did you put quotes around it? I counted 1,250,376 responses without quotes, and 0 with quotes.
:-).
Note: Putting quotes around something makes AV search it as a phrase. So "I like to maim and kill puppies and kittens" netted all the pages that had the words 'puppies' or 'maim' or 'kittens' or 'like' or 'kill'... you get the idea
Friends don't let friends misuse the subjunctive.
Is that all you remember? I can go all the way to 3.14159265358979323846264338 without a problem. :) I used to know this one person who claimed to know 100 digits or so, but I certainly couldn't verify it, and even my knowledge is at the point where any difference between measured and calculated circumferi is beyond insignifigant. But still... :)
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"'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
"'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
Quine "quine?
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Ah yes.... and keep in mind that 24.56% of all statistics are just made up on the spot to suite whatever someone needs. Also, don't forget that smoking is one of the leading causes of statistics.
BTW, please, don't go on forever...
Wheeeee
Midgits fall very short of the Giants' large presence:
Giants: 474,930
Midgits: 129
Which is why he said:
What does all of this mean? I have no idea. This small (but rigorously unscientific) study, like the psychic hotlines advertised heavily on late-night cable TV, is meant to be used for entertainment purposes only. Please feel free to add to it (or subtract from it) and draw your own conclusions, which I'm sure will be far more insightful than any I could possibly come up with on my own.
Need I say more?
Insert mind here.
Pilsner is a really really light brew, lager is a bit heavier and darker, Ale is darker yet and thicker taste, stout is really really dark.
:)
My beer knowledge is limited, there are so many varieties now with all of the microbrews I couldn't possibly know all of the obscure ones.
Pilsners because of their clean tastes are good with spicy foods, like curries, chinese food, sushi...a darker beer is good for heartier food...like a guiness stout is good with a stew or a french onion soup.
Bon Apetit!~
Physician, heal thyself.
Hey you two, I think your brains have gone south! There aren't many members of the animal kingdom that can type. You must be pretty proud of yourselves.
...to quote the Simpsons... Somethings are obviously just for fun guys.
i'm not an anonymous coward, but my passwd is not working. Anyway, anyone who has read nietsche would know that there are two ways to define good. there is good as it opposes evil and good as it opposes bad. The two meanings are ultimately different and by only searching one of their counterparts (evil). If i wanted to say that i had a bad trip, for example, i would not say that it was evil. but to describe the opposite i would certainly use good. But an interesting statistic nonetheless.
-Sara
sjs87@columbia.edu
Pleez! You people have obviouusly never gotten ANY in your life!
Well, roll them in flour next time!
Quality 25,415,552
Quantity 2,127,140
So it is quality, not quantity
GvsE rocks! How many other shows have the chutzpah to blow up TV's Webster, Emmanuel Lewis? (It's not as bad as it sounds. After all, he had sold his soul to the devil, so he sorta deserved it)
If you haven't seen the show, imagine Starsky&Hutch crossed with Brimstone crossed with a wicked sense of humor. You owe it to yourself to watch at least one episode.
"It's funny....laugh!" It's under humor.... sic
what? because they happen to enjoy something that most people do?
i don't see the problem.
i always have seen sex as a good thing.
"All the things I really like to do are either immoral, illegal, or fattening."
- Alexandar Woolcot
try 1,008,340 hits
"All the things I really like to do are either immoral, illegal, or fattening."
- Alexandar Woolcot
"tastes great" - 6222
"less filling" - 2307
Thank goodness we've settled that!
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I am looking to begin a group called the "Evil Vile Internet Linuxers", or 'EVIL' for short. I find these statistics disturbing and would like to take matters into the hands of the USER!
It will be fully OpenSource(tm)(c)(r) (like Al Gore's website) and maybe we can get MS to donate some funds!
Let's stick it to the man and show the world that the evil folk have nuts too!
(Please note: This post was written with a keyboard. If you disagree with what I said... blame it on the keyboard.)
Corndog
On Excite:
good 3077961
evil 224941
evil / good = 7.3%
On AltaVista evil / good = 6.3%
So there is a greater proportion of evil on Excite - what does this mean?
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Who would believe in penguins,unless he had seen them? Conor O Brien - Across Three Oceans
Rob Malda -- 485
Hitler -- 355765
Linus Torvalds -- 18849
Bill Gates -- 282274
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Keyword bad gives 5,282,140 matches when entered at simple search. Use advanced search and you get only 3,003,929 matches. What the hell.. Am I missing something obvious?
N/T
I particularly like this bit on 'Hygiene':
"floss every day": 80
"wear clean socks:" 87
"clean up the blood": 197
The thing is that it is impossible to compare sex to abstinence. (Over a sufficiently long period of time). If you have ever experienced sex, then you have not fully experienced abstinence. If, when you die, you have fully experienced abstinence, then you have never experienced sex.
Comparing on the short term is futile. Sex obviously has a much better short term consiquence (it feels good). However, it can have negative side effects, which is why abstinence is touted as a good long term solution.
If someone is going to bring up the issue of how to abuse statistics to make a point, I thought I'd add the following. (I actually make my living as a statistician - sorry about that). On the topic of putting in keywords into the a search on AltaVista, Statistics come up in 9,692,788 webpages, Facts come up in 4,352,390, Lies come up in 1,197,980, and Damn Lies come up in only 1,445. Wow, how about that. That means that there are more than 11 times more facts and statistics on the web than there are lies and damn lies. Woowee! Now, if I wanted to be nice I'd stop there, but I'm in a particularly onery mood so I'll add to the pain by letting you know that I did the same searches on Yahoo, MSN (sorry, but it is out there), Webcrawler, and Infoseek. Assuming that there is overlap between the search engines (hey, they can't all have the same 10% of the web covered can they?) I took the average values and arrived at the following, Statistics: 2,899,230; Facts: 1,809,899; Lies: 559,362; and Damn Lies: 1081. Guess what! We still have more facts and statistics than we do lies and damn lies on the web. God bless the goodness of the web. I could be really annoying and give you the tests of means that I performed to check for statistical significance, but I think I'm pushing it as it is. And just remember, I did this for the good of my own profession.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics."
art 25,797,984
porn 20,704,843
abstinence 48160
Reid G. Ormseth, Esq.
According to AltaVista (searching for web pages only)the internet is quite a source of positivity: It seems that the internet has more ups than downs, up 65,879,209 down 12,842,185 more goodies than baddies, goody 38980 baddy 1123 more yeas than nays, yea 146360 nay 97250 more positives than negatives, positive 1,890,840 negative 903400 and it actually has less windows than doors! window 4,485,050 door 5,747,800
Try +windows +computers, that's Yahoo syntax.
According to AltaVista (searching for web pages only)the internet is quite a source of positivity:
It seems that the internet has more ups than downs,
up 65,879,209
down 12,842,185
more goodies than baddies,
goody 38980
baddy 1123
more yeas than nays,
yea 146360
nay 97250
more positives than negatives,
positive 1,890,840
negative 903400
and it actually has less windows than doors!
window 4,485,050
door 5,747,800
"Pi (and all transendentals, and probably all irrationals as well) will, if you look long enough, contain every possible sequence that exists."
Consider all reals whose decimal expansion does not contain the digit 0 anywhere. There are uncountably many such reals, Cantor's diagonal argument still applies. Hence infinitely many such numbers must be irrational because the rationals are countable. Any real number without 0 in its expansion cannot contain all sequences, so the hypothesis is false for irrationals at least. I don't have a proof for transcendental numbers, but I'm pretty sure there are transcendentals without 0 in their decimal expansion.
Jim
Now, this is what I call unexact.
and what good is good? the word 'good' can refer to several things. probably has more meanings than evil. same thing with god/satan. god is a general term, whereas satan is mostly a christian term(I think, and I have been known to be wrong. but I think it is clear enough what I'm getting at) Oh well.. in the end it's all statistics
;)
Google tells me:
homicidal egocentric maniacs: 2 matches
allround nice guys: 71 matches
There is still hope
No one can understand the truth until he drinks of coffee's frothy goodness.
--Sheikh Abd-Al-Kadir, 1587
Hey! You owe your life to sex... don't be so ungrateful.
...but pretty funny.
http://www.improbable.com/
So are you saying there is no way to get an even close to accurate count? This logic could apply to anything that was in the article. Maybe there was a site that said to not do BAD or it's GOOD to kill.
Problem with comparing good versus evil: good might also include: good porn good price good babes good value etc.
This means absolutely nothing without more information. For example, we have no idea of the representative sample that Altavista indexes. Maybe Altavista [inadvertently or not] ignores parts of the web with more sadistic content? I could do a poll on the perspective of gays, and I would get drastically different results if my sample was at a local gay bar or Jerry Falwell's dinner table.
The "oh-my-god-we-have-to-protect-everyone-from-everyt hing" point of view stems mostly from today's politicians who are bored with today's lack of "real" problems (war, famine, pestulance) and feel that they need to dig up new problems and make the public care about them.
If you'll notice, it's increasingly evident that the only people that are spouting this inane rhetoric are lawmakers (and mostly democrats intent on the total control of information, but with a healthy contingent from the Religious Right, as well). The general public doesn't give a damn either way, and that's a Bad Thing(tm). Today's apathy on issues like this is what is leading us to an age of where the government will be empowered to dictate the content of our sites, as well as our lives, to us.
Past tyranies have come about because citizens blindly put their faith into religious monarchies and by letting themselves get caught up into patriotic rhetoric spewing from the mouths of maniacs in uniforms. Today, however, we are falling victim to a behemoth of tyrany not because we've been fooled, or caught up in the moment. We are falling because we don't care.
Raise the alarm. Howl, screetch, clatter, make noise. but be informative. people who know nothing about computers are making decisions that will forever change the way the public perceives computers, and how we may use them.
*insert your own rhetoric starting here*
woof!
vi: 12852
emacs: 14994
Well, that settles that then... =^)
Wouldn't the world be a better place if we could resolve all our differences this way?
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Can't you see that the report was posted rather tongue-in-cheek? I rather imagine that he knows alot of those "good" pages are proclaiming good pics and that pages with "evil" are probably proclaiming against some of the "good" picts.
"Without evil there's no good, so it must be good to be evil sometimes."
"Dogs and cats, living together...it's mass hysteria!"
your numbers don't really add up Bill Gates 169 482 Bill Gates Hate Sites 171 142 Linus Torvalds 14 700 Linux Torvalds Hate Sites 16 480 didn't you notice that you found more hates sites then actual name hits? are there really 2 thousand Bill Gates/Linus Torvalds hate sites that don't even have their names?
... has been doing this for a few years now. Here or here.
"If one is really a superior person, the fact is likely to leak out without too much assistance" -- John Andrew Holmes
Holy 1,454,330 Unholy 51,900 I guess I need to look for some Holy Sex sites
AWE, Yeah! I used to get the AIR way back when! Know where you can find old copies of it? I wonder if textfiles.org has any...
Large print giveth, and the small print taketh away
To quote the topic, "It's funny. Laugh."
--Matthew
A 20% sample is a pretty statistically significant sample no matter how you slice it.
macintosh:
AltaVista found 3,601,810 Web pages!!!!!
I say this whole internet having lotsa bad things is getting outta hand. Why don't we just shut it down and go back to using our modems to find porn on BBS then... It's always been here, it always will, get use to it! The internet is a model of life, there are good and bad things everyhere. Depends on what you've been taught growing up that you gravitate towards when your older. Teach your children...
"I like kittens" - 36 matches
"I like monkeys" - 760 matches
Go figure.
Another damned comic
+++ NO CARRIER
I had to laugh when I saw the numbers, and laugh more at how upset people were that it can't be true... But I'm wondering just how many High School kids are going to use these numbers for an essay? I know I would have done it since I ran out of good topics after a few essays and Thomas Nash's Littany in a Time of Plauge isn't the kind of thing you want to write about in *every* English class.
Wheeeee
Cracker = 156920
Looks like web hackers are indeed, just that. NOT crackers. Bwahaha!
I got the following from Altavista:
+cake: 735,420 Web pages.
+cake +"eat it": 57,155 Web pages.
So about 13% of the cake sites have their cake and eat it too!
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Open mind, insert foot.
I certainly en*joy* *good* porn. *God*, Its like
a little slice of *heaven* right here in this
*life*. Who doesn't?
As a friend would say, May the flies of a thousand camels infest the armpits of anyone who cant see the sarcasm in the above statement.
How is it that people need to be protected from nudity?
Do you ever hear "And another nudist goes on a bloody rage..." or "Scientists say that you should avoid all images of nude humans including yourself. You can't see yourself without getting screwed up..."
There have been many tribes in Africa and Austraila where everyone goes around stark naked, but the members are the most stable, kind, family-oriented people you'll ever see!
I did a few searches myself, here are the results.
wine: 2,066,590
beer: 1,916,500
legal: 8,928,337
illegal: 2,551,590
coke: 246,890
pepsi: 209,930
god: 6,980,580
jesus: 3,792,070
666: 399,310
nude: 21,656,226
clothed: 3,610
So what does all this prove? Well I think it just shows how bored I am. Although it was interesting to note that legal scored higher than illegal. One would think that the search on "illegal" would also include the sub-set "legal".
My real opinion, the internet is neither good nor evil, it is a tool. It is what we do with this tool that is good or evil. Cracking down on isp's that carry offensive material is useless, it's like putting out a fire gasoline, it usually angers the person into posting more offensive material.
While I'm on my ranting kick, I thought this was a free country where we could do and say what we wanted without persicution. If a child runs across an offensive site chances are they won't know what it means. If there activly seeking the material, the internet is only one place they can be exposed to it. You can't shield your children from life because it isn't what you want it to be. Let them makes mistakes, learn what the world is really about. It's neither good or bad, it just is!
according to their webcounters godhatesfags has almost a million hits while godlovesfags only 7681.
;)
But both contribute hits to god
If you can find pi in an infinately long random string chosen from ten characters (0-9) you can also find it in an infinately long random string of chosen from nine characters (1-9). You could also find it in a binary representation - you just have to pick some decoding scheme that makes use of the characters that exist in the string.
Don't label something "offtopic" unless you know the topic well enough to tell what's on topic.
The point was to laugh. If you don't like reading humor articles don't click on them or just change your preferences to exclude them.
weed 359070
good weed 1109
bad weed 170
sinsemilla 1329
acapulco gold 579
thai stick 178
nickel bags 88
dime bags 131
blotter acid 346
microdot acid 5
purple barrels 18
"Throw away your cigarettes and light up your spliffs"
Calculating it involves a fairly simple algorithm. Just leave the algorithm running and saving to disk in the background day and night until your disk is full.
Vidi, Vici, Veni
163120 for "insane"
only 103430 for "sane"
??????????
"sane" should be found at LEAST as many times as
"insane"
:-)
Vidi, Vici, Veni
Yay.
+"linus torvalds" : 14868
+"bill gates" : 169769
+"I hate bill gates" : 226
+"I hate linus torvalds : 0
+"I love bill gates" : 23
+"I love linus torvalds" : 0
+"Linux rules" : 757
+"Windows rules" : 139
+"Who is linus torvalds" : 9
+"Who is bill gates" : 41 (all links go to microsoft.com)
+"Linus torvalds - the road ahead" : 0
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What happens when you outlaw guns
Salty crackers with a jar of mayonnaise? Please?
The party's over
Color gets 14,498,600 Colour only gets 2,015,600 Proving that the Internet spreads misuse of the English language. :)
Good sex (expr.) If you're busy judging it, you're probably not doing it. See: Terms, contradiction of.
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
From www.alltheweb.com, purportedly a more thorough index- the 7 virtues and sins:
SINS:
- Envy: 189,901
- Lust: 428,590
- Greed: 190,008
- Sloth: 42,142
- Anger: 718,542
- Pride: 1,132,544
- Gluttony: 14,981
VirtuesTOTALS:
sins: 2,716,780
Virtues: 19,367,893
As you can see, it's a very ethical web we've got.
~mindlace
~mindlace
to much time on your hands perhapps??
I hope this is a joke. This is totally meaningless. You are a moron.
Maybe that implies that sex is good and abstinence ... Well, I'm not too fond of it!
I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
Recalling that much of the real debate is in the public sector (government) and media, I did a similar search for a long list of words suggesting mediocrity and came up with well under 180,000 entries (vs. Rob's 18M+ for good) I'm sure every /.er knows, both through history and personal experience, what happens when the good meets the mediocre -- the mediocre tries to crush the good. With a 100:1 good to mediocre ratio... well, it's going to be WAR. The government can't stand for this. Miss Grundy can't stand for it. The Bubble-headed Bleached Blonde at 5 can't stand for it. The PTA, AARP, NRA, ACLU, DoJ, DoD, [and dare I say CIA and NSA?] will unite against this threat to their very fabric. There's only one hope -- the web has a 240K:53K activism to apathy ratio and a 110K:5K loon to level-headed raio. If this is going to be a war, it'll at least be a rolicking mind-blowing war. [And yes, I *do* have a very good reason to be an anonymous coward. Why do you ask?]
(I'm really sorry, I can't resist)
Boy Carl. It's a good thing we have you around to tell us how rigorously unscientific this for entertainment purposes only study is.
Wouldn't it be common slashdot ettiquite to at least provide some sort of link to the people you're ripping off? I opened up slashdot this morning and felt like I'd just gotten another email forward from my aunt....
"having sex with sheep" got 1,072,553, while "having sex with pigs" (which everyone knows is far dirtier) got only 971795.
I'm not a smorgasbord.
To bring evil back to the internet. What about xevil? Shouldn't that bring up a ton of matches?
Satan got only 221,090.
I don't know about you, but that just made my day.
The doubt that these statistics have any actual merit. I mean, a sentence could be "Satan is our lord because god has yet to give us salvation." One 'Evil' word, three 'Good' words, but the overall tone could be considered 'evil'. WTF, who comes up with stats like these?
Maybe it is because ppl who are neophile surf the net. We like new stuff and that means fresh information. When I was younger I almost got a stiffy (expect that I was too young to get one) walking through libraries. That same feeling I had in University and now with the web it is back. This also brings along a tolerance for difference. Knowing that there are many ideas about how the world is like or should/could be brings along tolerance and stops dogmatism and simple ideologies. Also communicating with many ppl over the net around the world brings an acceptance of the good still left in most ppl even those coming from different cultures and countries. So be happy that there is good news on the net unlike the disastrous stories we get on tv or newspapers most of the time
What about sex (9,952,677) and abstinence (47,660)?
U cant really compare these, but... Linux: 4668803 Microsoft: 12334025 Windows: 17360425
Conclusions? None. Let's see... More "good" than "evil"? Like web sites with "good shots of naked women" or something? Hmm, more God than Devil... How about, "God d*** it!" I could go on forever. People may think there isn't as much bad stuff out there as is claimed, but this "study" is so totally uninformative as to be pointless.
Keep in mind, even if 70% of the Internet is good, clean, wholesome fun, that last 30% is still millions and millions of questionable material. So even if a conclusive study gave the same numbers as above, we'd have learned nothing.
--Carl
There is a problem though. Porn came up with 21,686,120 matches, while Fully Clothed Nuns came up with only 84995.
I guess the internet is evil after all...
is this the pre-eclipse effect? give me a break! and btw, rob,hemos,etc suxx. this stuff is gettin borin :((
using altavista....
272370 results for "geek"
4320 results for "blair witch"
"Tension is the great integrity" -- R. Buckminster Fuller
What if I am a psycho killer and i have a site listing the 101 'good' ways to dismember someone? Or maybee im a sicko porno freak and have 101 'good' pics of transgender bestiality pics? Or if im a satanist with 101 'good' ways to barbecue homosapien? Good may be much more prevalent than evil on the web, but who's good are we talking about anyway?
WIth an even more exciting methodology, the OS Sucks/Rules-o-meter uses highly refined mass survey techniques to survey the relative merits of different Operating Systems!
Translation: search Alta Vista for "Linux sucks", "Windows rules" etc., and graph the results.
Dave
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Republican 718650 Democrat 432180 Conservative 554850 Liberal 954830 Al Gore 129748 George W Bush 42831 Fascist Pig 7545 Longhaired Hippie Freak 18
paranoid.android
What it says in the subject line.
Michael Gentili
- He's just some guy, you know?
Why on Earth did it do that?
Republican 718650
Democrat 432180
Conservative 554850
Liberal 954830
Al Gore 129748
George W Bush 42831
Fascist Pig 7545
Longhaired Hippie Freak 18
paranoid.android
Such a lame article...sure there isn't anything else to write about that's newsworthy? =D
Way to go Roblimo! BTW, did you search for (and count) _Roblimo_?
Television: 4'955'100
Internet: 70'036'746
--- If OS were buildings, then the first woodpecker to come around would erase 95 % of civilization.
The problem with this kind of humor is that it contains statistics. This means it is 342.76 times more likely that CBS/NBC/ABC will pick it up and run it as serious, factual news. After all, it contains statistics, so it must be factually correct, right?
emacs: 268,460
Which really proves nothing, considering vi appears in many words, while emacs really doesn't!
Send these results along to your nearest politician with a straight face (virtual), and watch the fun begin! Sowing mass confusion in DC.
Senator: "Well, I have this survey from Slashdot - a very respectable Geek web site - sent to me by many of my Internet-savvy constituents and the results show the World Wide Web is a good place."
Chairman: "WTF?"
heee.
"shop smart:shop s-mart" ash
Ah well, maybe the "earth is round" faction will gain some support for predicting the solar eclipse in Europe.
Wah!
Altavista reports:
:-)
+free: 102,950,414
+"open source": 39,761
+proprietary: 521,860
I think the meaning is clear
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Open mind, insert foot.
Posted by Justin:
:)
both are fruits
Actually, not even that. Altavista doesn't enforce that a word absolutely has to be in the search unless you prefix it with a '+'.
You see, it doesn't appear that you are taking into account figures of speech and normal speech patterns. In many ways, this is quite an inaccurate survey of the web. On top of the fact, regardless as to whether there is more "good" than "evil" (by word count, blah) on the web, there is still a great deal of crap! People sometimes overlook that fact. Do you realize how polluted and generally pathetic the internet is becoming these days. When you go to look for something, how easy is it to find serious important information? Not very sometimes.. because people leave DEAD pages ROTTING on webservers which just take up space and usually contain NOTHING of value except search engine teergrubing CRAP.
Jesus Christ got only 426,920.
I'll be damned. I guess Lennon was right.
I just recently started doublechecking those old numbers using FAST's 200M-page index... so far the rankings are still pretty comparable.
"Evil" words might not be so popular, but I betcha "Naughty" words beat them all. I'd check but I'm at work and I know Big Brother is watching.
Oh well, no point in steering now.
man, i love how half the comments are decrying the validity of these joke statistics. see how this story is under humor? thats because its a joke.
Oh yeah, I forgot to say this post was pretty boring too. Let's keep to messages with a point on Slashdot, could we?
--Carl
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Let's take the results with a grain of salt? I hope you're joking but I'm not sure. Of course we'll take it with a grain of salt, the article is a (funny) joke after all.
Michael Gentili
- He's just some guy, you know?
Or at least was, but should children be sheilded from Zorak? Is Zorak objectionable to anyone? I think the results should be taken with a pinch of salt. Or a few salty crackers. Your choice.
"Luncheon meats make the sawdust in your stomach explode."
routinely. They call it "The World According to Alta Vista". Brunching is a pretty good comedy site...
Check it out: www.brunching.com
--Lenny
Thanks for pointing out that we should take the results with a grain of salt.
I'm sure the average Slashdot reader is unable to distinguish between a serious article and one that is marked with a big Monty Python style foot that means "humour."
It's good that there are nitpicks like you around to point out the shortcomings of the people who submit articles, and to make sure we don't try to put these statistics to further use.
Why is this on /. ? This has no significance, other than the fact that Roblimo is apparently very, very, bored. Save our time and don't post this crap.
I personally have nothing against you, but i've seen quite a few "who is he?" posts... Oh well, not like it really matters. They're never happy anyway :p
It's a joke. Lighten up.
I tried typing in two sides of morality.
Disney got about 1.1 million
xxx got about 19 million
porn and sex also did quite well...
i think xxx is beating everything.
People, their what's for dinner.
"Mac" is a substring of "Macintosh". Therefore every "Macintosh" site will also show up as a "Mac" site. You are counting the same sites twice.
Don't label something "offtopic" unless you know the topic well enough to tell what's on topic.
that's funny as hell, now altavista's all clogged up :-)
That's because when you search for 'windows computer' you are really saying this: "Please find all the sites with 'windows' OR 'computer', but sort them so the ones with both 'windows' AND 'computer' are at the top of the list.
Don't label something "offtopic" unless you know the topic well enough to tell what's on topic.
Hey, who said you get to speak for "our" time?
I dont remeber there being a vote and you getting the nod as spokesperson.
Learn to filter yer own newfeeds and Keep your nose out of MY time.
I liked the article
Poor little clams! Snap! Snap! Snap! Poor little clams! Snap! Snap! Snap! Poor little clams! Snap! Snap! Snap!
Again from AltaVista
Art: 25,618,180
Porn: 17,112,890
See, the web has almost twice as much art as porn.
:-)
buh: 14257 sfurp: 4 buh + sfurp: 14228 Hmmm... buh summa summa buh?
These results are all well and good...but what happens when you get microsoft into the equation?
"love microsoft" returned 682 results,
while "hate microsoft" had 1754, 3 times as many
+heaven +microsoft gave 37714,
but +hell +microsoft gave 42855...
+calm +microsoft returned 8329,
and +angry +microsoft returned 18601, showing the effect MS has on tempers....
And finally...
+forgive +"Bill Gates" returned 1623,
but +kill +"Bill Gates" showed 44375....
Draw your own conclusions....
Apples 328780
:)
Oranges 106720
Which proves that you can compare "Apples" and "Oranges"
Trust the Computer. The Computer is your friend.
I did a search on Alta Vista for "I like to maim and kill puppies and kittens".
The search yielded me 1,258,080 sites.
Quite sinister.
This was funny the first time...when Brunching Shuttlecocks Did it.. Though their records were a little different..