Changing the format of ldconfig and/etc/ld.so.conf? Can you say incompatible? I hope this goes away once Caldera comepletely makes the transition to libc6. Everything else sounds fine though...it's too bad we just completed our installfest at my school -- perhaps I'll pick up a copy anyway for any random newbie installations I have to perform.
I have no problems with the redhat certification program. But redhat ought to fix their fucking installation program. It is absurdly inflexible. For instance, you "have" to use that damned DiskDruid program to allocate partitions- that stupid thing by default makes everything an extended partition, guaranteed to be incompatible with some linux programs. It also forces you to use their precompiled kernel. This _really_ sucks. One time I needed a custom SCSI driver just to install stuff to a hard disk, but it wasn't available for the kernel version redhat was shipping.... ack
Anyways, redhat seems fine other than their damned installation program.
The initial technology was developed by a little bit of WA state seed money and a lot of money from the WA-based company that sponsored the research (Microvision) Don't assume the Feds fund all the ground breaking research in the world...sometimes things are a little too weird even for DARPA.
joel kollin (one of the guys on the original VRD patents)
That exactly right. I think that they learned their lesson right around when they released 5.0 I don't really see any reason to knock redhat anyway: They have a really nice distribution, they support countless open source efforts and they are trying to get linux onto the desktop. Since when did making things easier for the end user become the definition of monopolistic motives anyway?
You have to have backups, even it it's just copying the files to another drive or to another computer on the network. You have to use hosts.allow/hosts.deny, and you have to turn everything off you're not using - Red Hat is especially liberal with inetd by default. Bare minimum, or you will get cracked sooner or later if you on a leased line.
It's unfortunate that we need to have so many things running, but we do. And the server has to be accessible to everyone. Since the machine is colocated at an ISP we're going to see if we can pay them to back it up to a tape drive on one of their servers. Unfortunately I think this will probably double what we are paying. Yes, it's our fault that we didn't invest the money for backups but the script kiddie still deserves to pay if we can catch him!
Todd
Every 45 seconds, another arrest for Linux. 695000 last year. It's time for a change.
We had been running RedHat 4.2 but we have removed the server since I was in the middle of building the new server at the time anyway. The new one will be running RedHat 5.2 when the hard drives arrive.
I fortunately have a backup of my code (minus about 60 hours of work.) But no one else backed theirs up at all:(
Todd
Every 45 seconds, another arrest for Linux. 695000 last year. It's time for a change.
I need a howto on busting script kiddies. A script kiddie breaks into our server with the wu-ftp exploit, and sets up an irc bot. We immediately patch the holes and delete his bot (after making a copy of all the bot's config files.) It's too late though because the malicious little bastard has already set up a back door and he logs in as root and does "rm -rf/"
Well, I know the channel where he keeps his bots on IRC, but that's all I know about him. How do we locate him though? How do we collect on hundreds of hours worth of labor that he destroyed? We aren't a big company, just a group of people paying out of our own pockets and credit cards to try to start our own business--we didn't even have enough money to afford a tape backup for the server. I'd love to nail the little bitch.
Todd Every 45 seconds, another arrest for Linux. 695000 last year. It's time for a change.
Here's my offer: if someone writes a Qt-based front end, I will _personally_ check it in, and make Qt binaries available on the FTP site for the subsequent milestone.
The reasons for our switch to GTK from Motif have been discussed at length in the various mozilla newsgroups, so I'll not bore the literate by repeating them here, but you might find this interesting: virtually all of the current GTK front end was written by people outside Netscape (Stuart Parmenter, Chris Blizzard and others). There's no reason that people couldn't do the same thing with Qt.
..I've always wanted a nice version of Macross: Do You Remember Love. 'Course, I'd like it remastered and in IMAX, but a DVD version seems much more affordable..:)
'Fair use' is a constitutionally protected right. I happen to think the parodies in Mad magazine (et al) blow chunks. But that doesn't alter the fundamental right folks have to 'steal' material from others and warp it.
The fact that folks found it offensive doesn't matter. It's free speach and it's an obvious parody.
The law is pretty clear on what you can and cannot do and one time parodies are pretty far into protected speech territory. If he put out a book of these, or just altered one word in the cartoons claiming them as parodies, then they would be on shaky ground.
As it stands, these guys would win a court battle (see the supreme court case of 2 live crew doing a raunchy parody of Pretty Woman.) The real problem is they couldn't afford it.
I alreadly prefer the MS Media player over Real. Not becuase it's free, but because I get better sound quality at 56k (mostly 44k) dial up. I got suckered by Real into buying the "Plus" version thinking I was going to get better quality (twice I've done this). Stupid me. Never again.
Are you serious?!? Real Player is free, the plus has the additional feature of recording. Now tell me, can win media player record? Being a sucker doesn't make Real worst than Window.
They think i will start paying for songs i download for the net just because i will download this microsoft format which is smaller and of similar quality... they must be idiots...
OH MY GOD... My friend Kevin from CISCO who reads this place (he's at CISCO in Ottawa) told me about this discussion. What a small world. San's like one of my best friends, he's staying with me, moved here on Wednesday. Right now he's looking for a "Melrose Place" like pad and starts work on Monday (they hooked him up with a crazy ass computer, quad proc Xeon).
For you people who don't know.. Ottawa is Canada's capital city.. Not Toronto!! Like anyone cares:)
Unfortunately, until everyone gets cable modems or DSL or whatever companies are promising to bring, mp3's will still take quite a bit of time to download.
And even if everyone had cable modems, think of problems associated with cutting into the Internet bandwidth. Man, it'll still be slow.
If everyone has cable modem, people will start to attach low quality "Seifeld" on email, I honest believe it.
... I am not a fair man, and don't want to heard both sides. - H.L. Mencken.
Using computers to filter out what we want and don't want to see, is what they are they for. I have mail filters, I have filters on Slashdot, I use search engines.
How are search engines much different from filters? The both do pretty much the same thing.
I think Jon is backing the wrong horse on this one.
Yes, disk is cheap, but bandwidth isn't. Don't underestimate the appeal of a format that can compress twice as good as MP3, and therefore cuts download time in half. ----- You have to pay for it, dude.
On another note, how can anyone think this new format is a good thing for preventing music piracy? One can always convert MP3s to MS Audio (Winamp already does this), and hey, it's even easier to distribute, hence the smaller file sizes! If you convert whatever format to this audio4.0, it will insert a secret ID in it, which can only play on your PC (granded it can play on your registered M$audioMen as well.) Do you really want it? Do you want to register again whenever you drop your MSaudioMen? CY
I don't understand, how could the consumers accept another format? Mp3's popular because of the bootlegs. Why would any other copyrighted format suvive?
Nobody (besides geeks) in their right minds want to listen to their state of art music files in the PC. People want portable --which is the only weakness in CD. CD's too big and too short (one hour) The perfect machine to me is that a MD player size box that plays, records, receive AM/FM and has good ui to program the huge song list. The mp3 player of next generation is GOING TO do that, why would anyone else want to try a new format?
Let me get this straight, you prefer paying 3 dollars to download an audio4.0 Hanson new release in half of the download time of the same mp3 song, rather than getting the song free? Unless you just want to buy one single, nobody will choose download over CD, at lease you can give/lend your CD to your friend. Right?
Mp3 Low quality is bullshit, get a 256kps mp3 file. Audio4.0/realplayer pay format is exactly like DVIX, now only high end disk player can play both DVIX and DVD, low end disk players only play DVD(mp3).
Well maybe not you have it, but certainly joe sixpack doesn't have it. Disk is cheap, but you've got to get it there. Yes, cable modems, ADSL, etc are coming, but even Gartner, Zona, etc say it'll be 2002 before it really penetrates.
Joe sixpack isn't going to wait 20-30 minutes to suck a song through his 28.8 AOL connection - regardless of whether he paid for it or not.
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Posted by OGL:
/etc/ld.so.conf? Can you say incompatible? I hope this goes away once Caldera comepletely makes the transition to libc6. Everything else sounds fine though...it's too bad we just completed our installfest at my school -- perhaps I'll pick up a copy anyway for any random newbie installations I have to perform.
Changing the format of ldconfig and
-W.W.
Posted by Josefine K.:
Oh puh-leeze, boys. Have none of you ever ventured into an industrial night club? You FOOLS!
My best pick-up line is , "pardon me, are you a scientist?"
Course, it took months of lovelorn glances and flashing programming books around to catch the eye of my true love.
Posted by newfie:
:)
The Gnome t-shirt and hat is pretty kick ass I must say. But if only they made some sweat shirts for people that are living in colder climates
Posted by The Mongolian Barbecue:
I have no problems with the redhat certification program. But redhat ought to fix their fucking installation program. It is absurdly inflexible. For instance, you "have" to use that damned DiskDruid program to allocate partitions- that stupid thing by default makes everything an extended partition, guaranteed to be incompatible with some linux programs. It also forces you to use their precompiled kernel. This _really_ sucks. One time I needed a custom SCSI driver just to install stuff to a hard disk, but it wasn't available for the kernel version redhat was shipping.... ack
Anyways, redhat seems fine other than their damned installation program.
Posted by jkollin:
The initial technology was developed by a little bit of WA state seed money and a lot of money from the WA-based company that sponsored the research (Microvision)
Don't assume the Feds fund all the ground breaking research in the world...sometimes things are a little too weird even for DARPA.
joel kollin
(one of the guys on the original VRD patents)
Posted by The Mongolian Barbecue:
that the Java logo looks like a cup of coffee with a large turd floating in the center of it?
Posted by The Mongolian Barbecue:
A guy came into my house with a gun and made me look at all the cartoons. Now you see how flimsy your aruments are.
Posted by sach:
That exactly right. I think that they learned their lesson right around when they released 5.0
I don't really see any reason to knock redhat anyway: They have a really nice distribution, they support countless open source efforts and they are trying to get linux onto the desktop. Since when did making things easier for the end user become the definition of monopolistic motives anyway?
You have to have backups, even it it's just copying the files to another drive or to another computer on the network. You have
to use hosts.allow/hosts.deny, and you have to turn everything off you're not using - Red Hat is especially liberal with inetd by
default. Bare minimum, or you will get cracked sooner or later if you on a leased line.
It's unfortunate that we need to have so many things running, but we do. And the server has to be accessible to everyone. Since the machine is colocated at an ISP we're going to see if we can pay them to back it up to a tape drive on one of their servers. Unfortunately I think this will probably double what we are paying. Yes, it's our fault that we didn't invest the money for backups but the script kiddie still deserves to pay if we can catch him!
Todd
Every 45 seconds, another arrest for Linux. 695000 last year. It's time for a change.
Posted by TRF:
:(
We had been running RedHat 4.2 but we have removed the server since I was in the middle of building the new server at the time anyway. The new one will be running RedHat 5.2 when the hard drives arrive.
I fortunately have a backup of my code (minus about 60 hours of work.) But no one else backed theirs up at all
Todd
Every 45 seconds, another arrest for Linux. 695000 last year. It's time for a change.
If you didn't make backups in some form, if not even on your local computer, you deserved it....
Oh, thanks for your compelling insight. I guess I'll just take myself to court :P
Todd
Every 45 seconds, another arrest for Linux. 695000 last year. It's time for a change.
Posted by TRF:
/"
I need a howto on busting script kiddies. A script kiddie breaks into our server with the wu-ftp exploit, and sets up an irc bot. We immediately patch the holes and delete his bot (after making a copy of all the bot's config files.) It's too late though because the malicious little bastard has already set up a back door and he logs in as root and does "rm -rf
Well, I know the channel where he keeps his bots on IRC, but that's all I know about him. How do we locate him though? How do we collect on hundreds of hours worth of labor that he destroyed? We aren't a big company, just a group of people paying out of our own pockets and credit cards to try to start our own business--we didn't even have enough money to afford a tape backup for the server. I'd love to nail the little bitch.
Todd
Every 45 seconds, another arrest for Linux. 695000 last year. It's time for a change.
Posted by shaver@netscape.com:
Here's my offer: if someone writes a Qt-based front end, I will _personally_ check it in, and make Qt binaries available on the FTP site for the subsequent milestone.
The reasons for our switch to GTK from Motif have been discussed at length in the various mozilla newsgroups, so I'll not bore the literate by repeating them here, but you might find this interesting: virtually all of the current GTK front end was written by people outside Netscape (Stuart Parmenter, Chris Blizzard and others). There's no reason that people couldn't do the same thing with Qt.
Posted by Scott Francis[Mechaman]:
..I've always wanted a nice version of Macross: Do You Remember Love. 'Course, I'd like it remastered and in IMAX, but a DVD version seems much more affordable..:)
Posted by lemru:
It doesn't matter if it's funny or not.
'Fair use' is a constitutionally protected right. I happen to think the parodies in Mad magazine (et al) blow chunks. But that doesn't alter the fundamental right folks have to 'steal' material from others and warp it.
The fact that folks found it offensive doesn't matter. It's free speach and it's an obvious parody.
The law is pretty clear on what you can and cannot do and one time parodies are pretty far into protected speech territory. If he put out a book of these, or just altered one word in the cartoons claiming them as parodies, then they would be on shaky ground.
As it stands, these guys would win a court battle (see the supreme court case of 2 live crew doing a raunchy parody of Pretty Woman.)
The real problem is they couldn't afford it.
Posted by My_Favorite_Anonymous_Coward:
I alreadly prefer the MS Media player over Real. Not becuase it's free, but because I get better sound quality at 56k (mostly 44k) dial up. I got suckered by Real into buying the "Plus" version thinking I was going to get better quality (twice I've done this). Stupid me. Never again.
Are you serious?!? Real Player is free, the plus has the additional feature of recording. Now tell me, can win media player record? Being a sucker doesn't make Real worst than Window.
CY
Posted by Threell:
They think i will start paying for songs i download for the net just because i will download this microsoft format which is smaller and of similar quality...
they must be idiots...
Posted by tahmed:
:)
OH MY GOD... My friend Kevin from CISCO who reads this place (he's at CISCO in Ottawa) told me about this discussion. What a small world. San's like one of my best friends, he's staying with me, moved here on Wednesday. Right now he's looking for a "Melrose Place" like pad and starts work on Monday (they hooked him up with a crazy ass computer, quad proc Xeon).
For you people who don't know.. Ottawa is Canada's
capital city.. Not Toronto!! Like anyone cares
Posted by My_Favorite_Anonymous_Coward:
Unfortunately, until everyone gets cable modems or DSL or whatever companies are promising to bring, mp3's will still take quite a bit of time to download.
And even if everyone had cable modems, think of problems associated with cutting into the Internet bandwidth. Man, it'll still be slow.
If everyone has cable modem, people will start to attach low quality "Seifeld" on email, I honest believe it.
CY
Posted by Bastard Operator From Hell:
... I am not a fair man, and don't want to heard both sides. - H.L. Mencken.
Using computers to filter out what we want and don't want to see, is what they are they for. I have mail filters, I have filters on Slashdot, I use search engines.
How are search engines much different from filters? The both do pretty much the same thing.
I think Jon is backing the wrong horse on this one.
Shaun
Posted by My_Favorite_Anonymous_Coward:
Disk is cheap. right now.
Yes, disk is cheap, but bandwidth isn't. Don't underestimate the appeal of a format that can compress twice as good as MP3, and therefore cuts download time in half.
-----
You have to pay for it, dude.
Posted by My_Favorite_Anonymous_Coward:
On another note, how can anyone think this new format is a good thing for preventing music piracy? One can always convert MP3s to MS Audio (Winamp already does this), and hey, it's even easier to distribute, hence the smaller file sizes! If you convert whatever format to this audio4.0, it will insert a secret ID in it, which can only play on your PC (granded it can play on your registered M$audioMen as well.) Do you really want it? Do you want to register again whenever you drop your MSaudioMen? CY
Posted by My_Favorite_Anonymous_Coward:
I don't understand, how could the consumers accept another format? Mp3's popular because of the bootlegs. Why would any other copyrighted format suvive?
Nobody (besides geeks) in their right minds want to listen to their state of art music files in the PC. People want portable --which is the only weakness in CD. CD's too big and too short (one hour) The perfect machine to me is that a MD player size box that plays, records, receive AM/FM and has good ui to program the huge song list. The mp3 player of next generation is GOING TO do that, why would anyone else want to try a new format?
Let me get this straight, you prefer paying 3 dollars to download an audio4.0 Hanson new release in half of the download time of the same mp3 song, rather than getting the song free? Unless you just want to buy one single, nobody will choose download over CD, at lease you can give/lend your CD to your friend. Right?
Mp3 Low quality is bullshit, get a 256kps mp3 file. Audio4.0/realplayer pay format is exactly like DVIX, now only high end disk player can play both DVIX and DVD, low end disk players only play DVD(mp3).
CY
Posted by The Mongolian Barbecue:
sorry- I didn't pay close enough attention to what you were saying.
Posted by christur:
You know what you're missing?
Cheap bandwidth. right now.
Well maybe not you have it, but certainly joe sixpack doesn't have it. Disk is cheap, but you've got to get it there. Yes, cable modems, ADSL, etc are coming, but even Gartner, Zona, etc say it'll be 2002 before it really penetrates.
Joe sixpack isn't going to wait 20-30 minutes to suck a song through his 28.8 AOL connection - regardless of whether he paid for it or not.
50% smaller is a lot to joe sixpack.