What did you think of this line at the bottom of the press release?
>>Open Source is a trademark of Apple Computer, Inc
That's pretty bizarre, isn't it?
FSF DOES get credit (without using "GNU/Linux")
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Posted by mrcl:
Whenever I use gcc or gdb, or gmake or countless other important apps in linux, I know that the FSF is behind them. Its right there in the name. I appreciate what they have done, and I wouldn't want to have to rewrite their code.
I think that they are getting plenty of credit, and they don't need any more.
Whenever you use linux, you are using the kernel, which Linus wrote, and so it should remain named linux.
The name stays as "linux", and we leave in the FSF code.
mrcl
The stats don't support his argument.
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Posted by Nick Carraway:
The FSF is the single largest contributing organization in that S.u.S.E. distribution, according to his numbers. And let's not forget which compiler and binutils generated the code that makes up the remaining 90%. EGCS? I don't think so.
Have fun rewriting GCC, binutils, emacs and all the rest, boys. It's sure a lot easier than thinking of something original, isn't it? Oh, and lest you think I'm some huge RMS fan, I'm not. He's goofy and he makes us all look like dorks by association. Still, I won't begrudge the man his props...
Could some kind soul mirror my empegs listed above? I'm afraid my server won't stand up very well if many people want to see my humble creations..
Thanks, Del
Another clueless slashdotter(yeah, YOU)
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Posted by Lord Kano-The Gangster Of Love:
>>Read in this context, the article doesn't say a bad thing about Linux. He does severely downplay Linux's importance and potential. Linux has already started to change the way people think about software and computing.
Do you think that Windoze CE will ever power a car MP3 player?
They're not calling it GNU/Linux because it was produced by the FSF. They are calling it that because much of the software is released under the GNU Public License.
In any case, it makes no sense to ask "who created this tool" because the point is that EVERYONE can contribute to existing code.
It would be a lot less misleading to partition by license rather than original programmer. If you do that I believe you will find much justification for calling it GNU/Linux.
It is important to note the effect that slashdot postings can have on companies. After Toshiba said that they would not release information for the IR interface, everybody rallied around and boycotted Toshiba. Then 3 days later they gave the information. Now, I personally wouldn't be caught dead in the same room as a mac, but I'm sure there are some who don't mind 'em. Show apple your stripes. Tell them it's not OK to pretend to be supportive of Open Source when their only goals are for their immediate gain. Free the Format! -
jeez!! "Big brother inside" had been around for a while. Connected to microsoft.com the other day cause I needed a patch foe Winblows. Got a cable modem, and I watched as the server tried to scan my machine:)
Those Idiots. That "Journalist" probably didn't even take himself to Linux Expo or whatever. All he said was junk. if he really actually used it he would probably change his mind.
What would be really nice would be for Intel to use this technology to track illegal overclocking as an alternative to frequency and clock locks which prevent us true oc devotes forom getting as much as we can from these chips.
However, the way it looks at the moment (which we have seen in the revision A celerons) Intel will use this technology to further sercure the settings of the chips, so that they can mass produce one chip capable of all speeds, and then lock them to a specific one, hence cutting production costs.
I think the title is wrong. Intel is going after remarkers, and not users who knowingly over-clock their CPUs. Intel is releasing a software that will tell you what the CPU is rated at, to alert the user if he/she has bought a remark.
After reading the README.linux that should have come with that space heater, just vi/etc/spacehtr.conf and find the line that reads: space_heat at 2 days and edit that to read: space_heat at now Then, just type: insmod spcheat.o spaceheat and it should be working. Heh. I don't even have some gloves to send you, so bad humor will have to do.:)
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The review was at http://www.planethardware.com a few weeks ago; they're cool looking, but apparently pretty crappy. I'm hoping for a review of these new ones. Or maybe I'll just build one out of wood. =)
Give him a chance, and then let's vote again later
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Posted by Joseph Blowseph:
He only mentions himself in a Katzian self-aggrandizing way once, so that's a good start.
Plus he uses the word "deconstruction" without its constant companion, "overdetermination", which is also good.
On the other hand, he gets to the end of the article without actually saying anything.
So it's impossible to tell if he's going to start adding content, or start adding Katzinan self-aggrandizement, or what.
Let's see some more, without the annoying links to his Terribly Important Other Stories in Terribly Important mainstream magazines that many of us don't give a hoot about.
If linux is to become 'the next BIG OS' like many people are saying it will be, people like this guy are going to be most people's only source of information. The average user doesn't read slashdot but does watch CNN, so let's not be too hard on him. We should try to convince him of the greatness of Linux, but if we flame him, he'll probably fight us and the last this Linux needs is bad press.
well this actually showed up in Computer World from one of the "editorial staff" that can't keep his mind straight on anything anyways... I think they still don't understand the linux community and are getting on that "bandwagon" tooo late from most other weekly news mags anyways... heck CNN is a buzzword and hype afterall isn't it? heh...
That article should please the Linux + Gnome zealots. I'm all for Linux, KDE and Gnome, but the wording of the article was too strong for my pathetic constitution. I had to stop reading halfway down... Saboteur? Bomb? Detonation? Tyranny? Yes tyranny is probably the right word to use, but don't make the Linux world out to be full of religious type nuts....
"Are you the Linux Users Group? Fuck off, we're a group of Linux users..."
If there is a shift towards diversity in hardware, this may help put pressure on companies like my own employer to release the source. After all, NT is for all intents and purposes supported on two platforms but just how much NT software is available on non-Intel? Almost nada.
But if there were a large number of people buying MIPS, Alpha, Sun, etc. hardware for workstations, it is suddenly not as attractive anymore to ship binary-only software.
The trick is for us to take the initiative by buying into alternative hardware. Most non-techies won't touch a non-intel machine because the software they use is not available on other architectures.
I got hooked on mutiple heads when I pieced together a Sun 4/330 four years ago. Eventually that system got replaced with a much faster pc running linux and I build another system to run nt. I like running exceed or something simular to access the linux stuff. But I missed the dual head. I did a little research and found out that matrox supported multiple heads under nt. So I bought another 15" monitor and the two video cards. So I have been dual head for a couple of years on a pc.
although I do not care for Winblows 98, it multi heads support is far better than under nt. I like being able to position the monitors anywhere and have different resolutions on them.
If I were you, Buy the 21 and keep the 17, buy two matrox cards and have both.
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Posted by Geocrawler:
What did you think of this line at the bottom of the press release?
>>Open Source is a trademark of Apple Computer, Inc
That's pretty bizarre, isn't it?
Posted by mrcl:
Whenever I use gcc or gdb, or gmake or countless other important apps in linux, I know that the FSF is behind them. Its right there in the name. I appreciate what they have done, and I wouldn't want to have to rewrite their code.
I think that they are getting plenty of credit, and they don't need any more.
Whenever you use linux, you are using the kernel, which Linus wrote, and so it should remain named linux.
The name stays as "linux", and we leave in the FSF code.
mrcl
Posted by Nick Carraway:
The FSF is the single largest contributing organization in that S.u.S.E. distribution, according to his numbers. And let's not forget which compiler and binutils generated the code that makes up the remaining 90%. EGCS? I don't think so.
Have fun rewriting GCC, binutils, emacs and all the rest, boys. It's sure a lot easier than thinking of something original, isn't it? Oh, and lest you think I'm some huge RMS fan, I'm not. He's goofy and he makes us all look like dorks by association. Still, I won't begrudge the man his props...
Posted by Mojoski:
Could some kind soul mirror my empegs listed above? I'm afraid my server won't stand up very well if many people want to see my humble creations..
Thanks,
Del
Posted by Lord Kano-The Gangster Of Love:
>>Read in this context, the article doesn't say a bad thing about Linux.
He does severely downplay Linux's importance and potential. Linux has already started to change the way people think about software and computing.
Do you think that Windoze CE will ever power a car MP3 player?
So I ask my question again.
LK
Posted by FascDot Killed My Previous Use:
They're not calling it GNU/Linux because it was produced by the FSF. They are calling it that because much of the software is released under the GNU Public License.
In any case, it makes no sense to ask "who created this tool" because the point is that EVERYONE can contribute to existing code.
It would be a lot less misleading to partition by license rather than original programmer. If you do that I believe you will find much justification for calling it GNU/Linux.
Posted by HolyMackeralAndy:
I was a newbie too, but using RH 5.2 I had my machine up and running in under 30 minutes....hmmmm.....
Posted by His name cannot be spoken:
It is important to note the effect that slashdot postings can have on companies. After Toshiba said that they would not release information for the IR interface, everybody rallied around and boycotted Toshiba. Then 3 days later they gave the information. Now, I personally wouldn't be caught dead in the same room as a mac, but I'm sure there are some who don't mind 'em. Show apple your stripes. Tell them it's not OK to pretend to be supportive of Open Source when their only goals are for their immediate gain. Free the Format! -
Posted by EasySleeze:
:)
jeez!! "Big brother inside" had been around for a while. Connected to microsoft.com the other day cause I needed a patch foe Winblows. Got a cable modem, and I watched as the server tried to scan my machine
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http://www.stalker.com runs MacOS X, Intel edition on P166 with 32Mb of RAM.
Posted by !ErrorBookmarkNotDefined:
. . for the price of only a few pounds of heroin!
^^^^^^
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A few _pounds_ of heroin? I think you mean
a few metric tons, right?
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Posted by Kastern:
Those Idiots. That "Journalist" probably didn't even take himself to Linux Expo or whatever.
All he said was junk. if he really actually used it he would probably change his mind.
Posted by BikE_PUnX:
I want to shoot you.
*sets threashold to 1*
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Posted by Pseudonet:
What would be really nice would be for Intel to use this technology to track illegal overclocking as an alternative to frequency and clock locks which prevent us true oc devotes forom getting as much as we can from these chips.
However, the way it looks at the moment (which we have seen in the revision A celerons) Intel will use this technology to further sercure the settings of the chips, so that they can mass produce one chip capable of all speeds, and then lock them to a specific one, hence cutting production costs.
Posted by FascDot Killed My Previous Use:
I still get icons at the top of the page. So NOT getting them lower down doesn't really speed anything up (since the image is cached).
Posted by RainForest:
I think the title is wrong. Intel is going after remarkers, and not users who knowingly over-clock their CPUs. Intel is releasing a software that will tell you what the CPU is rated at, to alert the user if he/she has bought a remark.
Posted by !ErrorBookmarkNotDefined:
/etc/spacehtr.conf and find the line that reads: space_heat at 2 days and edit that to read: space_heat at now Then, just type: insmod spcheat.o spaceheat and it should be working. Heh. I don't even have some gloves to send you, so bad humor will have to do. :)
After reading the README.linux that should have come with that space heater, just vi
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Posted by Anjiro Khan the Second:
The review was at http://www.planethardware.com a few weeks ago; they're cool looking, but apparently pretty crappy. I'm hoping for a review of these new ones. Or maybe I'll just build one out of wood. =)
Posted by Joseph Blowseph:
He only mentions himself in a Katzian self-aggrandizing
way once, so that's a good start.
Plus he uses the word "deconstruction" without
its constant companion, "overdetermination", which
is also good.
On the other hand, he gets to the end of the article
without actually saying anything.
So it's impossible to tell if he's going to start
adding content, or start adding Katzinan self-aggrandizement,
or what.
Let's see some more, without the annoying links
to his Terribly Important Other Stories in
Terribly Important mainstream magazines that
many of us don't give a hoot about.
-jqb
Posted by Elvis27:
If linux is to become 'the next BIG OS' like many people are saying it will be, people like this guy are going to be most people's only source of information. The average user doesn't read slashdot but does watch CNN, so let's not be too hard on him. We should try to convince him of the greatness of Linux, but if we flame him, he'll probably fight us and the last this Linux needs is bad press.
Posted by pennacook:
well this actually showed up in Computer World from one of the "editorial staff" that can't keep his mind straight on anything anyways... I think they still don't understand the linux community and are getting on that "bandwagon" tooo late from most other weekly news mags anyways... heck CNN is a buzzword and hype afterall isn't it? heh...
pennacook
Posted by stodge:
That article should please the Linux + Gnome zealots. I'm all for Linux, KDE and Gnome, but the wording of the article was too strong for my pathetic constitution. I had to stop reading halfway down... Saboteur? Bomb? Detonation? Tyranny? Yes tyranny is probably the right word to use, but don't make the Linux world out to be full of religious type nuts....
"Are you the Linux Users Group?
Fuck off, we're a group of Linux users..."
Posted by The ULTIMATE Crippler:
Don't see how.
The expressions of my thoughts, opinions, and ideas are not comparable to sharing source code to software.
Apples and oranges, Ted.
Posted by The ULTIMATE Crippler:
If there is a shift towards diversity in hardware, this may help put pressure on companies like my own employer to release the source. After all, NT is for all intents and purposes supported on two platforms but just how much NT software is available on non-Intel? Almost nada.
But if there were a large number of people buying MIPS, Alpha, Sun, etc. hardware for workstations, it is suddenly not as attractive anymore to ship binary-only software.
The trick is for us to take the initiative by buying into alternative hardware. Most non-techies won't touch a non-intel machine because the software they use is not available on other architectures.
Posted by dhickman:
I got hooked on mutiple heads when I pieced together a Sun 4/330 four years ago. Eventually that system got replaced with a much faster pc running linux and I build another system to run nt. I like running exceed or something simular to access the linux stuff. But I missed the dual head. I did a little research and found out that matrox supported multiple heads under nt. So I bought another 15" monitor and the two video cards. So I have been dual head for a couple of years on a pc.
although I do not care for Winblows 98, it multi heads support is far better than under nt. I like being able to position the monitors anywhere and have different resolutions on them.
If I were you, Buy the 21 and keep the 17, buy two matrox cards and have both.
dhh