To anyone who railed about Jon having no place at/. this should permenantly silence you. I haven't read such a well written literate satire of gates in quite a while. This is the kind of stuff we need as opposed to the l33t hax0rs saying MS sux. I haven't laughed so hard in quite a while.
give the people the least possible technology at the highest possible price. thats it...look at most technology-related empires (microsoft, tci...) and you will see this formula at work - this is why steve jobs will never win, he's obssessed with product quality and style.
Maybe you just don't know it very well..
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Blender v1.5 Manual
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Posted by Mojoski:
Once I worked through the manual I found it very well organised and intuitive, but an understanding of the object model is important to understanding the interface. That is one of the reasons I enjoyed the book so much..
It's just a way to make a living on a free product. He needs mindshare so he allows people to use. If someone wants to really get good at it and make excellent stuff then they can purchase the extra level of knowledge through the manual. I think this is a great model to use.
That the thoughts of a man who totaly denies his insantiy, is several times more interesting than a tyrant who denies his tyranny. Or somthing like that... At least all sales of Mr. K's book will go to the families of his victims (according to USA Today)
I got "The Road Ahead" as a Christmas present a while back from some relatives that thought it was "computery" enough to interest me. I read it, and now it servers a very important place in my life....it's helping to hold up one end of my battered old orange couch!
About Katz:
He could say ANYTHING on slashdot and over half of you would piss and moan! Makes me wish Rob could come up with a "filter all bitching" option for/.
True. It's easy to get caught on the anti-MS bandwagon (its so easy!), but then it's also easy to get caught on the Linux hype bandwagon. You can't win either way!
I'm one of these people who is pissed off with MS, their software and their practices. But I'm not the kind of person that Jon was addressing; the religious zealot. Yes I could just ignore his postings, but I thought this one might actually be witty and not just ranting and raving.
I know all good causes and movements need a loud voice to carry the message to the world. But with postings like this we're posting the wrong message.
Please just calm this hysteria. Be sensible, be mature, be intelligent. The more it occurs the more I'm tempted I am to walk away from Linux.
When you change your.sig it takes effect retroactively. So two seconds after you change it when someone attempts to access it they see your revised version.
I am curious to know where this infinite monkey thing first came about. Do you think it was Douglas Adams? Is that at all possible, or does it predate him and I'm just too illiterate to realize this because whenever I see infinite monkeys I'm reminded of that 'smashingly good script to Hamlet', which I suppose, is the least of their capabilities if they are truly infinite.
As an outsider, it seems to me that the Linux community is losing itself among letter of the law definitions, instead of the ideals.
Now I am not clear about all of this, but if the problem is that certain files in the package distributed by Apple are also filed under GPL, then why not use Apple's files when you need them and the GPL files in other cases, and just avoid the whole mess of Open Source.
An old saying: "Don't kick a gift horse in the teeth."
mkultra "The answers you seek are the ones you destroy." -Collective Soul (or Heisenberg)
APSL not perfect,but a step in the right direction
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Posted by PUGfounder:
I can see how many do not agree with Apple's Public Source License (APSL). This is a huge leap for Apple. The company has for so long been considered totally proprietary. I agree this is not perfect open source, but I feel this is a huge step in the right direction for Apple.
What's "the power of OpenSource" got to do with writing a book without coordination, idea and probably without meaning?
I am a Dane, and have found some pages describing their idea in danish (http://aalug.linux.dk/ELY/index.htm), here is a quote [my translation]: "We will attempt to compose a book, stating the status of Linux in Europe anno 1999. Since the idea is, that no plans should be made, we must each keep our idea's to ourselves".
There is no concrete idea or purpose stated anywhere.....
If we wish to give OpenSource a good name, we should stop yelling "OpenSource" every time we do something that's so bad that someone else has to fix it for us.
Yeah, right. This will more likely show how silly a bunch of people can be. Open source is a nice idea, but these people are starting to sound like the legalize hemp crowd: "Open source will save the world!", "Did you know George Washington used open source? It's true!" It's a good idea, not the second coming.
I predict this thing will either blow over (I can't even get into the site), or it will be as successful as the Windows Refund Day. I can't wait to see where Obi Wan appears in this soon-to-be work of art.
>Um, how is throwing away 90% of the data >"better"?
Just because your file size may be 90% smaller doesn't mean 90% of the data just got chopped off. Mp3 is a compression format specialized for audio, and a lot of the data just got compressed into 10% of the space. You can still hear the drummer hitting his sticks together, the crowd cheering between songs, everything. Almost CD quality, plus you can set what bitrate you encode at to the point where you simply can't tell the difference.
Audiophiles might not all like the quality of mp3's, but they should still appreciate the incredibly small size.
The book would be appropriately titled "the Shaggy Dog story." Because, it would go on and on and on. Although, I don't doubt that thousands of people across the Internet could write a book length something, just look at all the crap/. comments produce. It just won't be a very good book, but because it's all hype and Internet bullshit, it will probably be a profitable book. Damn. -- Proud member of SVLUG
Debian version 2.1 (Nickname: slink) released - 9 March 1999 -X 3.3.2.3a -Linux kernel 2.0.36 (a source package for 2.2.1 is included) -Apt (part 1), the new backend to dselect for easy net package retrieval -Apt (part 2), the new commandline for intellegent upgrades/installs -first public release for sparc and alpha architectures
RMS is controversial. You agree with his point of view or not. All of these "discussions" about GNU/Linux vs Linux are the same thing over and over again. I will never be resolved.
It is one thing for informed people to disagree. But I read replies from people who obviously don't know anything of the history of free software/open source.
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Posted by Forward The Light Brigade:
that would be great EXCEPT you see Debian has this nice page that lists the INCOMPATIBILIES between slink and 2.2.x
they ship with 2.0.36
Stampede was the first distro out with 2.2.x
*I am running deb 2.1 In a few days I will be running Stampede 0.89*
Posted by The Mongolian Barbecue:
/. this should permenantly silence you. I haven't read such a well written literate satire of gates in quite a while. This is the kind of stuff we need as opposed to the l33t hax0rs saying MS sux. I haven't laughed so hard in quite a while.
To anyone who railed about Jon having no place at
Posted by Hackin Bey:
give the people the least possible technology at the highest possible price. thats it...look at most technology-related empires (microsoft, tci...) and you will see this formula at work - this is why steve jobs will never win, he's obssessed with product quality and style.
Posted by Mojoski:
Once I worked through the manual I found it very well organised and intuitive, but an understanding of the object model is important to understanding the interface. That is one of the reasons I enjoyed the book so much..
Posted by Mojoski:
It's just a way to make a living on a free product. He needs mindshare so he allows people to use. If someone wants to really get good at it and make excellent stuff then they can purchase the extra level of knowledge through the manual. I think this is a great model to use.
Posted by Pushkin:
That the thoughts of a man who totaly denies his insantiy, is several times more interesting than a tyrant who denies his tyranny. Or somthing like that... At least all sales of Mr. K's book will go to the families of his victims (according to USA Today)
Posted by stodge:
Hahaha. You mean "Insist that communication flow through e-mail, but make sure you delete the dodgy ones that might come back to haunt you in court"??
Posted by CyberPete:
/.
About Bill:
I got "The Road Ahead" as a Christmas present a while back from some relatives that thought it was "computery" enough to interest me. I read it, and now it servers a very important place in my life....it's helping to hold up one end of my battered old orange couch!
About Katz:
He could say ANYTHING on slashdot and over half of you would piss and moan! Makes me wish Rob could come up with a "filter all bitching" option for
Posted by OGL:
When will you people grow up?
Flames are for babies.
-W.W.
Posted by stodge:
True. It's easy to get caught on the anti-MS bandwagon (its so easy!), but then it's also easy to get caught on the Linux hype bandwagon. You can't win either way!
I'm one of these people who is pissed off with MS, their software and their practices. But I'm not the kind of person that Jon was addressing; the religious zealot. Yes I could just ignore his postings, but I thought this one might actually be witty and not just ranting and raving.
I know all good causes and movements need a loud voice to carry the message to the world. But with postings like this we're posting the wrong message.
Please just calm this hysteria. Be sensible, be mature, be intelligent. The more it occurs the more I'm tempted I am to walk away from Linux.
Posted by !ErrorBookmarkNotDefined:
A bit less overt venom. More wry wit.
Be sure to sprinkle in some techno facts.
You almost nailed that niche.
Next, you could sell them Toyotas.
Sure beats stringing article to Field and Stream, eh?
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Computers are useless. They can only give answers.
Posted by Lord Kano-The Gangster Of Love:
.sig it takes effect retroactively. So two seconds after you change it when someone attempts to access it they see your revised version.
When you change your
At the time I posted my message it said 1998.
LK
Posted by FascDot Killed My Previous Use:
Duh
Posted by hollowman:
I am curious to know where this infinite monkey thing first came about. Do you think it was Douglas Adams? Is that at all possible, or does it predate him and I'm just too illiterate to realize this because whenever I see infinite monkeys I'm reminded of that 'smashingly good script to Hamlet', which I suppose, is the least of their capabilities if they are truly infinite.
Posted by mkultra:
As an outsider, it seems to me that the Linux community is losing itself among letter of the law definitions, instead of the ideals.
Now I am not clear about all of this, but if the problem is that certain files in the package distributed by Apple are also filed under GPL, then why not use Apple's files when you need them and the GPL files in other cases, and just avoid the whole mess of Open Source.
An old saying:
"Don't kick a gift horse in the teeth."
mkultra
"The answers you seek are the ones you destroy."
-Collective Soul (or Heisenberg)
Posted by PUGfounder:
I can see how many do not agree with Apple's Public Source License (APSL). This is a huge leap for Apple. The company has for so long been considered totally proprietary. I agree this is not perfect open source, but I feel this is a huge step in the right direction for Apple.
Posted by FascDot Killed My Previous Use:
/. article pitting ESR against BP, I am dropping BOTH and going with RMS. It's getting so that he is the only NON-crazy one.
1) ESR said the APSL is Open Source (tm).
2) Bruce said it isn't.
3) Who owns the trademark?
4) What has RMS said about the Freeness of the APSL?
5) If I see one more
Posted by bluesboy:
What's "the power of OpenSource" got to do with writing a book without coordination, idea and probably without meaning?
I am a Dane, and have found some pages describing their idea in danish (http://aalug.linux.dk/ELY/index.htm), here is a quote [my translation]: "We will attempt to compose a book, stating the status of Linux in Europe anno 1999. Since the idea is, that no plans should be made, we must each keep our idea's to ourselves".
There is no concrete idea or purpose stated anywhere.....
If we wish to give OpenSource a good name, we should stop yelling "OpenSource" every time we do something that's so bad that someone else has to fix it for us.
Posted by sgupta:
Yeah, right. This will more likely show how silly a bunch of people can be. Open source is a nice idea, but these people are starting to sound like the legalize hemp crowd: "Open source will save the world!", "Did you know George Washington used open source? It's true!" It's a good idea, not the second coming.
I predict this thing will either blow over (I can't even get into the site), or it will be as successful as the Windows Refund Day. I can't wait to see where Obi Wan appears in this soon-to-be work of art.
Posted by omot:
>Um, how is throwing away 90% of the data >"better"?
Just because your file size may be 90% smaller doesn't mean 90% of the data just got chopped off. Mp3 is a compression format specialized for audio, and a lot of the data just got compressed into 10% of the space. You can still hear the drummer hitting his sticks together, the crowd cheering between songs, everything. Almost CD quality, plus you can set what bitrate you encode at to the point where you simply can't tell the difference.
Audiophiles might not all like the quality of mp3's, but they should still appreciate the incredibly small size.
omot@lotek.org / www.lotek.org
There's a RealVideo version of trailer #2 at
http://solo.gatech.edu/
-adam a
ps. I agree, 'tis a shame, Sorenson rocks.
Posted by bafoon:
Quick and Dirty? Boy...
The future is about cross platform portability, hardware agnostic tools.
Have you considered Java? You think on that.
Posted by hansc:
/. comments produce. It just won't be a very good book, but because it's all hype and Internet bullshit, it will probably be a profitable book. Damn.
The book would be appropriately titled "the Shaggy Dog story." Because, it would go on and on and on. Although, I don't doubt that thousands of people across the Internet could write a book length something, just look at all the crap
--
Proud member of SVLUG
Posted by Art Pepper:
From http://www.debian.org:
Debian version 2.1 (Nickname: slink)
released - 9 March 1999
-X 3.3.2.3a
-Linux kernel 2.0.36 (a source package for 2.2.1 is included)
-Apt (part 1), the new backend to dselect for easy net package retrieval
-Apt (part 2), the new commandline for intellegent upgrades/installs
-first public release for sparc and alpha architectures
Posted by Art Pepper:
>This rant is just stupid.
Agreed. B-O-R-I-N-G.
RMS is controversial. You agree with his point of view or not. All of these "discussions" about GNU/Linux vs Linux are the same thing over and over again. I will never be resolved.
It is one thing for informed people to disagree. But I read replies from people who obviously don't know anything of the history of free software/open source.
That's all. Back to work!