I fear for the internet.
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Posted by kenmcneil:
Very interesting, and well thought out, but I disagree. I will use my favorite analogy: the Internet and the printing press. As far as I know (I'm not too big on history) what happened when the printing was invented was that instead of only the "rich" having access to books, newspapers, etc. the masses did as well. Of course the "rich" objected to this and tried to restrict the proliferation of knowledge. And as we know they were not successful.
My prediction is that like any other revolution everyone will be forced to adapt to the Internet. This is already surfacing, I can count on one hand the number of times that I have been in a book store since I discovered Amazon. As for open-source software (and the like), this means that companies like M$ will be forced to find a niche in thier market (what is their "market" anyway -- anything that makes a profit?).
Note: This post is really late, so I may just be talking to myself:^)
Sessions is a lackey. He's been one for a long time now. Ignoring that and moving on to the technical stuff.
The OMG has not recanted on their earlier convictions. Reading that into the press release is nonsensical.
Think about RMI. The idea behind RMI was to make simple distributed applications easy to build. The idea behind EJB is to make those simple applications more scalable by moving a lot of the complexity to the people who build the EJB Container.
That is, 90% of the EJB spec is defining the functionality the container provider must include. And a lot of this functionality is already available from CORBA vendors.
So what else made it into the EJB spec ? That's right. An EJB to CORBA mapping and a definition of RMI-IIOP. The idea being that all the effort that's been expended on building CORBA components can be seamlessly (ore nearly seamlessly) incoporated into EJB.
If you've built a CORBA application, you can talk to it from Java. If you've built an ORB, you can leverage everything and build an EJB container.
Why wouldn't the OMG be ecstatic ? Java's huge and only going to get bigger. And EJB was designed from the ground up to be CORBA friendly.
The paragraph beginning "I don't current work in Java, so it seems.." is total ignorance at high volume.
i have heard that the client version is completely different from the server other than BSD and mach roots, i think it has a different mach kernel
Server doesn't like the Squid anonymizer function
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This is the second note I've gotten about this problem with Squid. The reason you're getting rejected is as it states: either the request is reaching the server without a User-Agent header field, or else with one that's in our list as being used by robots that ignore robots.txt and the RES.
I've updated the page to include the actual UA supplied; if you try again, send me (in private email) what the result is and I'll take a look at it.
The array access is probably still an issue, I think there may have been advances in that area by newer VM's but I can't say for sure.
There are well-known techniques for hoisting array bounds checks out of loops. This makes array bounds checking essentially free. The good JIT's do this already, although there are probably some cases that they can't yet analyse properly. This will improve with time, and as the previous poster mentioned, without source-code changes.
Actually, the Lombard powerbook has been held up not by its design and engineering issues, but by the popularity of the current Wallstreet powerbook. There are too many of them in the retail sector, sitting in warehouses or whatever. Due to recent promotions, the backstock is mostly gone, and the new powerbooks are nearly ready to ship.
There was also a holdup because of MacOS 8.6. There are some features in that OS that the new Powerbooks (both Lombard and the new consumer laptop, the P1) require for proper operation. MacOS 8.6 went into Gold Master a week and a half ago, so its only a matter of time. (This version is also a Free upgrade from 8.5) --- Donald Roeber
I don't think Red Hat is a big part of IBM strategic plans, either. Red Hat is just so tiny compared to IBM. Hey, if a big company like IBM decides it wants to provide support for Linux, I don't think they need a little company like that. They just want to make some money out of it. And yes, one-time gains are taken into account by analysts for short-term previsions. Remember that it's with cents that you make dollars! Intel often does that. They invest in small companies for a year or two and sell them for a profit. Sure, they invest in companies that could help sell their own products, but it's primarily for profit-taking.
well i didnt really elaborate on what right and wrong they should teach, but we were all told that our actions have no consequences in the end. that we should do what makes us feel good, and be our own person. i mean this is really serious shit for a 15-18 year old to be hearing because it goes against what most peoples parents have been teaching them all their life... im sorry but i feel no pity for that school district, i feel pity for the families of the people who had to lose their lives, but now maybe someone will realise that "oh yeah, maybe we should have taught them that doing their own thing isnt always right" . also, rammstein is VERY tame compared to some of the music i listen to, im still a stable person because i know that what they are singing/screaming/groaning about is not something to try at home. a fully capable person is able to tell the difference between right and wrong, are you saying that you should penalize 99.99 percent of the population of things they enjoy harmlessly because.01 percent might make a bad decision because of them? ok now this has turned into a rant and i probably lost all continuity there...
my2cents assmodeus
Littleton students are telling us why it happened
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Posted by TRF:
I've noticed a lot of journalists (but not all) are still fixated on the Trenchcoat, Doom, Marilyn Manson thing. Let's face it people (journalists,) it takes a lot more than that to create a killer. Stop looking for easy answers by blaming what you don't understand.
I saw an interview with Littleton student Alex Marsh on the news. She was confused about her feelings (her friends killed her friends) but she was NOT confused about why it happened. Emotional abuse and alienation caused them to snap. She also mentioned the video games and paintball seemed to help them to deal with their anger. I think she might be right about that. Kinda like taking out your agressions on a punching bag.
I saw another female student interviewed as well. She also talked about the way the kids were treated and offered that as an explaination for why they snapped. She described one of the killers as someone that she "thought highly of." She also described him as a nice person that liked to make people feel better. This does not sound like someone who is going to be pushed over the edge by video games and listening to Marilyn Manson.
I then saw a rather good example of one part of the problem. I believe it was after the vidoeconference between the people of Littleton and Jonesboro. A young male student from Littleton clearly explained that it never would have happened if the killers hadn't been persecuted at school. Immediately after him one of the administrators from the school sitting only a couple feet away from him was given the microphone. The guy said they looked through their records for any reason the kids would have done such a thing. He basically said he had no idea what would have caused "retaliation." It was as if he hadn't heard a word that the student had just said.
Larry King mentioned a psychologist that said harassers at the school have to take part of the blame. I'm sure they didn't intend this to happen, but they created the monster(s) that killed their friends.
In the world of the killers, they were at the bottom of the food chain. They had nothing to lose. They were treated far worse than they deserved to be, and when they retaliated, they treated the other students far worse than they should have been.
Every 45 seconds, another arrest for Linux. 695000 last year. It's time for a change.
Roger Sessions originally worked on the CORBA Persistance standard, which was subsequently rejected by the OMG. Ever since that unfortunate mishap, he has decided to side with Microsoft and print very anti-CORBA messages on his ObjectWatch site (read some of his other articles). Be aware that all he does is Microsoft/COM now and that many of his claims for COM and COM+ are speculative and somewhat misleading (at best).
I have worked with both CORBA and COM. I have had to explain the differences in the object models over and over, and I have developed in both environments. COM works well if you are a Microsoft shop, with all Microsoft desktops, and you only run on a Microsoft LAN, interfacing to a Microsoft database. CORBA works if you have a distributed heterogeneous network across multiple platforms, and multiple languages.
Nope. This questionnaire was inspired by some questions I was asked at/by IBM, but that's it. They (IBM) are free to do whatever they like with the published answers -- just as anyone else on the 'Net is, which is part of the message of the waiver. No-one sees the identity information (names, email addresses, age, &c.); they won't be published to anyone. Not IBM, not anyone.
The waiver is to ensure that anyone who responds has been informed that its answers will be published, can be quoted in email or other communications, and will remain anonymous.
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Is everyone in this country stupid?
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Posted by lithiticus:
Being picked on is NO EXCUSE for killing anyone, especially attempting to wipe out an entire school in a bloody rampage. This represents failure at the most fundamental level of society. What hope is there for civilization if we can't teach our children basic respect for human life?
The behavior of the two assassins is not inherently unique; people kill people every day with no better reasons than these two had. What makes this case special is that this wasn't done by adults who were completely responsible for their own actions, but by children still technically under their parents control. We've become so desensitized to the horrors that go on around us that we only notice the most extreme examples and even then only until they are out of the headlines.
It is overly simplistic to say that the kids just need to be nicer to each other. In the end, we are the root of the problem. The hatred and bigotry that goes on in schools is only a parody of what goes on out in the grown up world. Until we begin to take life death seriously, how can we expect our kids to?
The companies who invested in Red Hat are there primarily for profit. Keeping a company private doesn't do much to the share price. You have to go public. Unfortunately, Red hat will probably go to a traditional underwriter (unlike "www.openipo.com") to sell the shares, and the ones that will make the most money are the ones that already have shares in the company. It can seem unfair, but these same big investors support unpopular companies, too, so they have to make a profit somewhere.
Red Hat will probably grow in the service business, where the money is. They can still provide software for free (they don't have the choice anyway) AND make the investors happy. In fact, it's a good thing to give away software, since big corporate companies will install it everywhere and ask for support. As long as they make clear to investors what is their business model, the investors won't complain. Both can coexist peacefully.
True story-just happened two nights ago. When the NT 'admin' was asked to remove the thing, he said, "No, it's OK, I've been bringing him in here for a year." I'd love to see the financial pages if my telecomm company ran into business troubles due to this dog whizzing on a high-impact server.
Perhaps the first step in transitioning NT admins to Linux is 'no pets in server room'.
But seriously...my company is paying for a series of HP-UX sysadmin courses for my department. At $2000/week, too. Will there be similar costs for the Linux courses? At my current place of employment, at least, high cost==respectability and stability to asst. middle managers.
I don't think MS can buy a majority of RH. Since they are in the same business (Operating systems) the DOJ would have to approve the purchase...and I don't believe thats going to happen.
It would be like MS trying to buy out Be or Apple or... oh, wait they don't have any other competitors.
reality check. i live in and went to high school in the ritzy suburbs of philadelphia. 80 percent of the parents here both work daily...leaving kids to come home to an empty house. to make it worse, our school district has refused to teach "right" and "wrong" to the students, for fear that someone would be offended. well pardon my french but i would be a little more offended if someone walked into my classroom with a fucking gun than if they told us the difference between good and bad. and to see the media try to blame it on everything but themselves really pisses me off too. ive been playing "violent" games since the doom and wolfenstein and all the while since. i havent shot anyone, i havent flipped. neither have any of my friends, and we deathmatch for hours on end. the difference here is that our parents picked up where our schools failed...
Personally, if Red Hat goes public I will almost surely not buy another of their distributions and I will most likely switch to Debian as quickly as possible. One of the main reasons I like Red Hat is because they are private, which means that their policies (which I have liked up to present) are likely to stay in place.
In the current stock market (especially as overvalued as tech stocks are) it is very hard to demonstrate that the motivation for going public is anything other than to get rich quick. I think staying private this long, probably under enormous pressure, says a lot good about Red Hat. I think to give it up now would be the wrong thing to do. Hopefully this is just a rumor.
I'm sorry you don't like my humor. However, if I held my tongue every time I thought someone _might possibly_ take offense, then I would never joke at all. Just because you've had a painful experience doesn't mean the rest of us need to tiptoe to avoid offending you. It is pretty arrogant of you to think you can shut everyone up on a subject just because it hurts you. The world is a callous place. So you grow up.
Of course it's wonderfully cool that you can have a movie play on your computer, downloaded from the internet. So cool, in fact, that no one cares it's illegal, or immoral. Some probably would even say it's not immoral, but I'd dare say none of them would ever produce anything worth selling, and thus don't care much about intellectual property.
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Very interesting, and well thought out, but I disagree. I will use my favorite analogy: the Internet and the printing press. As far as I know (I'm not too big on history) what happened when the printing was invented was that instead of only the "rich" having access to books, newspapers, etc. the masses did as well. Of course the "rich" objected to this and tried to restrict the proliferation of knowledge. And as we know they were not successful.
My prediction is that like any other revolution everyone will be forced to adapt to the Internet. This is already surfacing, I can count on one hand the number of times that I have been in a book store since I discovered Amazon. As for open-source software (and the like), this means that companies like M$ will be forced to find a niche in thier market (what is their "market" anyway -- anything that makes a profit?).
Note: This post is really late, so I may just be talking to myself :^)
Posted by Mr G:
.." is total ignorance at high volume.
Sessions is a lackey. He's been one for a long time now. Ignoring that and moving on to the
technical stuff.
The OMG has not recanted on their earlier convictions. Reading that into the press release is nonsensical.
Think about RMI. The idea behind RMI was to
make simple distributed applications easy to
build. The idea behind EJB is to make those
simple applications more scalable by moving a
lot of the complexity to the people who build
the EJB Container.
That is, 90% of the EJB spec is defining the functionality the container provider must
include. And a lot of this functionality is
already available from CORBA vendors.
So what else made it into the EJB spec ? That's
right. An EJB to CORBA mapping and a definition
of RMI-IIOP. The idea being that all the effort
that's been expended on building CORBA components
can be seamlessly (ore nearly seamlessly)
incoporated into EJB.
If you've built a CORBA application, you can
talk to it from Java. If you've built an ORB,
you can leverage everything and build an EJB
container.
Why wouldn't the OMG be ecstatic ? Java's huge
and only going to get bigger. And EJB was designed from the ground up to be CORBA friendly.
The paragraph beginning "I don't current work in Java, so it seems
Posted by FascDot Killed My Previous Use:
I don't know if getting credit for such movies as Titanic and The Matrix is really all that great. What's next? Teletubbies?
Posted by Nr9:
i have heard that the client version is completely different from the server other than BSD and mach roots, i think it has a different mach kernel
This is the second note I've gotten about this problem with Squid. The reason you're getting rejected is as it states: either the request is reaching the server without a User-Agent header field, or else with one that's in our list as being used by robots that ignore robots.txt and the RES.
I've updated the page to include the actual UA supplied; if you try again, send me (in private email) what the result is and I'll take a look at it.
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Posted by rolandpj:
The array access is probably still an issue, I think there may have been advances in that area by newer VM's but I can't say for sure.
There are well-known techniques for hoisting
array bounds checks out of loops. This makes
array bounds checking essentially free. The good
JIT's do this already, although there are probably
some cases that they can't yet analyse properly.
This will improve with time, and as the previous
poster mentioned, without source-code changes.
Posted by DonR:
Actually, the Lombard powerbook has been held up not by its design and engineering issues, but by the popularity of the current Wallstreet powerbook. There are too many of them in the retail sector, sitting in warehouses or whatever. Due to recent promotions, the backstock is mostly gone, and the new powerbooks are nearly ready to ship.
There was also a holdup because of MacOS 8.6. There are some features in that OS that the new Powerbooks (both Lombard and the new consumer laptop, the P1) require for proper operation. MacOS 8.6 went into Gold Master a week and a half ago, so its only a matter of time. (This version is also a Free upgrade from 8.5)
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Donald Roeber
Posted by IonBeam:
I don't think Red Hat is a big part of IBM strategic plans, either. Red Hat is just so tiny compared to IBM. Hey, if a big company like IBM decides it wants to provide support for Linux, I don't think they need a little company like that. They just want to make some money out of it. And yes, one-time gains are taken into account by analysts for short-term previsions. Remember that it's with cents that you make dollars! Intel often does that. They invest in small companies for a year or two and sell them for a profit. Sure, they invest in companies that could help sell their own products, but it's primarily for profit-taking.
Posted by The Mongolian Barbecue:
but there is no hell... and no god either. isn't the universe a shithole?
Posted by DarkSecret:
Finnaly, a door for us going to school to snag a ticket without ditching an entire day of school.
Posted by Rahikainen:
FUD or not, LinuxPPC doesn't have anything to support, except outdated product. So, logically, YDL is correct.
Don't get me wrong. I waited, erm, a dog's age for LinuxPPC to release R5. I got bored.
It appears that the profit motive has its place.
Posted by Rahikainen:
I waited and waited and waited and waited and waited for LinuxPPC to come out. The new one. The one that runs Netscape.
I gave up and bought YellowDog Linux. Glad I did.
Posted by Assmodeus:
.01 percent might make a bad decision because of them? ok now this has turned into a rant and i probably lost all continuity there...
well i didnt really elaborate on what right and wrong they should teach, but we were all told that our actions have no consequences in the end. that we should do what makes us feel good, and be our own person. i mean this is really serious shit for a 15-18 year old to be hearing because it goes against what most peoples parents have been teaching them all their life... im sorry but i feel no pity for that school district, i feel pity for the families of the people who had to lose their lives, but now maybe someone will realise that "oh yeah, maybe we should have taught them that doing their own thing isnt always right" . also, rammstein is VERY tame compared to some of the music i listen to, im still a stable person because i know that what they are singing/screaming/groaning about is not something to try at home. a fully capable person is able to tell the difference between right and wrong, are you saying that you should penalize 99.99 percent of the population of things they enjoy harmlessly because
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Posted by TRF:
I've noticed a lot of journalists (but not all) are still fixated on the Trenchcoat, Doom, Marilyn Manson thing. Let's face it people (journalists,) it takes a lot more than that to create a killer. Stop looking for easy answers by blaming what you don't understand.
I saw an interview with Littleton student Alex Marsh on the news. She was confused about her feelings (her friends killed her friends) but she was NOT confused about why it happened. Emotional abuse and alienation caused them to snap. She also mentioned the video games and paintball seemed to help them to deal with their anger. I think she might be right about that. Kinda like taking out your agressions on a punching bag.
I saw another female student interviewed as well. She also talked about the way the kids were treated and offered that as an explaination for why they snapped. She described one of the killers as someone that she "thought highly of." She also described him as a nice person that liked to make people feel better. This does not sound like someone who is going to be pushed over the edge by video games and listening to Marilyn Manson.
I then saw a rather good example of one part of the problem. I believe it was after the vidoeconference between the people of Littleton and Jonesboro. A young male student from Littleton clearly explained that it never would have happened if the killers hadn't been persecuted at school. Immediately after him one of the administrators from the school sitting only a couple feet away from him was given the microphone. The guy said they looked through their records for any reason the kids would have done such a thing. He basically said he had no idea what would have caused "retaliation." It was as if he hadn't heard a word that the student had just said.
Larry King mentioned a psychologist that said harassers at the school have to take part of the blame. I'm sure they didn't intend this to happen, but they created the monster(s) that killed their friends.
In the world of the killers, they were at the bottom of the food chain. They had nothing to lose. They were treated far worse than they deserved to be, and when they retaliated, they treated the other students far worse than they should have been.
Every 45 seconds, another arrest for Linux. 695000 last year. It's time for a change.
Posted by surfside:
Roger Sessions originally worked on the CORBA Persistance standard, which was subsequently rejected by the OMG. Ever since that unfortunate mishap, he has decided to side with Microsoft and print very anti-CORBA messages on his ObjectWatch site (read some of his other articles). Be aware that all he does is Microsoft/COM now and that many of his claims for COM and COM+ are speculative and somewhat misleading (at best).
I have worked with both CORBA and COM. I have had to explain the differences in the object models over and over, and I have developed in both environments. COM works well if you are a Microsoft shop, with all Microsoft desktops, and you only run on a Microsoft LAN, interfacing to a Microsoft database. CORBA works if you have a distributed heterogeneous network across multiple platforms, and multiple languages.
'nuff said.
Nope. This questionnaire was inspired by some questions I was asked at/by IBM, but that's it. They (IBM) are free to do whatever they like with the published answers -- just as anyone else on the 'Net is, which is part of the message of the waiver. No-one sees the identity information (names, email addresses, age, &c.); they won't be published to anyone. Not IBM, not anyone.
The waiver is to ensure that anyone who responds has been informed that its answers will be published, can be quoted in email or other communications, and will remain anonymous.
#kenP-)}
Ken Coar
Posted by lithiticus:
Being picked on is NO EXCUSE for killing anyone, especially attempting to wipe out an entire school in a bloody rampage. This represents failure at the most fundamental level of society. What hope is there for civilization if we can't teach our children basic respect for human life?
The behavior of the two assassins is not inherently unique; people kill people every day with no better reasons than these two had. What makes this case special is that this wasn't done by adults who were completely responsible for their own actions, but by children still technically under their parents control. We've become so desensitized to the horrors that go on around us that we only notice the most extreme examples and even then only until they are out of the headlines.
It is overly simplistic to say that the kids just need to be nicer to each other. In the end, we are the root of the problem. The hatred and bigotry that goes on in schools is only a parody of what goes on out in the grown up world. Until we begin to take life death seriously, how can we expect our kids to?
Posted by IonBeam:
The companies who invested in Red Hat are there primarily for profit. Keeping a company private doesn't do much to the share price. You have to go public. Unfortunately, Red hat will probably go to a traditional underwriter (unlike "www.openipo.com") to sell the shares, and the ones that will make the most money are the ones that already have shares in the company. It can seem unfair, but these same big investors support unpopular companies, too, so they have to make a profit somewhere.
Red Hat will probably grow in the service business, where the money is. They can still provide software for free (they don't have the choice anyway) AND make the investors happy. In fact, it's a good thing to give away software, since big corporate companies will install it everywhere and ask for support. As long as they make clear to investors what is their business model, the investors won't complain. Both can coexist peacefully.
Posted by Josefine K.:
True story-just happened two nights ago. When the NT 'admin' was asked to remove the thing, he said, "No, it's OK, I've been bringing him in here for a year." I'd love to see the financial pages if my telecomm company ran into business troubles due to this dog whizzing on a high-impact server.
Perhaps the first step in transitioning NT admins to Linux is 'no pets in server room'.
But seriously...my company is paying for a series of HP-UX sysadmin courses for my department. At $2000/week, too. Will there be similar costs for the Linux courses? At my current place of employment, at least, high cost==respectability and stability to asst. middle managers.
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Posted by Roland the Gunslinger:
Theft is no longer immoral. Wonderful.
What a load of intellectually bankrupt bullshit.
Posted by your preferred nick name here::
... oh, wait they don't have any other competitors.
I don't think MS can buy a majority of RH. Since they are in the same business (Operating systems) the DOJ would have to approve the purchase...and I don't believe thats going to happen.
It would be like MS trying to buy out Be or Apple or
Posted by Assmodeus:
reality check. i live in and went to high school in the ritzy suburbs of philadelphia. 80 percent of the parents here both work daily...leaving kids to come home to an empty house. to make it worse, our school district has refused to teach "right" and "wrong" to the students, for fear that someone would be offended. well pardon my french but i would be a little more offended if someone walked into my classroom with a fucking gun than if they told us the difference between good and bad. and to see the media try to blame it on everything but themselves really pisses me off too. ive been playing "violent" games since the doom and wolfenstein and all the while since. i havent shot anyone, i havent flipped. neither have any of my friends, and we deathmatch for hours on end. the difference here is that our parents picked up where our schools failed...
my2cents
assmodeus
Posted by Dean Townsley:
Personally, if Red Hat goes public I will almost surely not buy another of their distributions and I will most likely switch to Debian as quickly as possible. One of the main reasons I like Red Hat is because they are private, which means that their policies (which I have liked up to present) are likely to stay in place.
In the current stock market (especially as overvalued as tech stocks are) it is very hard to demonstrate that the motivation for going public is anything other than to get rich quick. I think staying private this long, probably under enormous pressure, says a lot good about Red Hat. I think to give it up now would be the wrong thing to do. Hopefully this is just a rumor.
Just my opinion, and I will vote with my dollars.
Posted by The Mongolian Barbecue:
I'm sorry you don't like my humor. However, if I held my tongue every time I thought someone _might possibly_ take offense, then I would never joke at all. Just because you've had a painful experience doesn't mean the rest of us need to tiptoe to avoid offending you. It is pretty arrogant of you to think you can shut everyone up on a subject just because it hurts you. The world is a callous place. So you grow up.
Posted by Roland the Gunslinger:
Of course it's wonderfully cool that you can have a movie play on your computer, downloaded from the internet. So cool, in fact, that no one cares it's illegal, or immoral. Some probably would even say it's not immoral, but I'd dare say none of them would ever produce anything worth selling, and thus don't care much about intellectual property.