Is there no demand for computer scientists in the UK? That 35000 GBP is only $47377 USD. I wouldn't intern for that salary! Someone was saying that can't find a job but I can't even look at my LinkedIn without stirring the dust for recruiters. I'd think this is the same for any other US software engineer. Is there really not tech demand over there? I worry for my brother-in-law finishing up school! He might have to come over here.
Do they take into account when men take medical leave? We had several men take medical leaves. We also had men take paternal leave and one who had to cut back hours after his baby was born because they didn't want her in daycare. Are things like this used in the analysis as well?
In my personal experience as a software engineer who is a black women, even if you ask for it, you still may not get it. Armed with the knowledge of exactly how much my white, male coworkers were making (because they are awesome like that) I was basically told there was no way my salary was budging. I was given the run around about budgets but never given a satisfactory answer.
1. Only one guy had been there longer than me. It was only by a few months.
2. The new grads coming in made more than me, a dev with 5 years of experience.
3. Every one of my reviews had been impeccable, with several noting how I had gone above and beyond that year.
Of course, I decided to leave. Looking for a job, I was given offers between four companies. One short changed the hell out of me, and when I basically threw the offer back in their face they countered with marginally more stating it was the top of their budget. Yeah, no. Again, I had a friend who worked there and had a good idea of how much they were making there. Another one also low balled me. I countered and never heard from them again. The other two offered great salaries and benefits. About 20% more than the previous companies.
So, I asked for more and I got more...eventually. Talking with my old and new coworkers, none of them had to go through the roller coaster I did to get a fair wage. And that is FAIR. Not rockstar salary, not code ninjas salary. Fair. I pride myself on having tough skin, but near the end of my first job the passive aggressiveness I felt from my boss made work unpleasant. All I did was assert myself as every self help, girls-just-don't-ask article/forum post told me to. I wasn't asking for the moon, I was literally asking just to be in the same goddamned ball park. So while I think there are so many great companies working hard to be fair and while this is just my experience (and knowing similar experiences of other female engineers), I feel there is some work to do. And more than women just need to ask more.
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Is there no demand for computer scientists in the UK? That 35000 GBP is only $47377 USD. I wouldn't intern for that salary! Someone was saying that can't find a job but I can't even look at my LinkedIn without stirring the dust for recruiters. I'd think this is the same for any other US software engineer. Is there really not tech demand over there? I worry for my brother-in-law finishing up school! He might have to come over here.
Do they take into account when men take medical leave? We had several men take medical leaves. We also had men take paternal leave and one who had to cut back hours after his baby was born because they didn't want her in daycare. Are things like this used in the analysis as well?
In my personal experience as a software engineer who is a black women, even if you ask for it, you still may not get it. Armed with the knowledge of exactly how much my white, male coworkers were making (because they are awesome like that) I was basically told there was no way my salary was budging. I was given the run around about budgets but never given a satisfactory answer.
1. Only one guy had been there longer than me. It was only by a few months.
2. The new grads coming in made more than me, a dev with 5 years of experience.
3. Every one of my reviews had been impeccable, with several noting how I had gone above and beyond that year.
Of course, I decided to leave. Looking for a job, I was given offers between four companies. One short changed the hell out of me, and when I basically threw the offer back in their face they countered with marginally more stating it was the top of their budget. Yeah, no. Again, I had a friend who worked there and had a good idea of how much they were making there. Another one also low balled me. I countered and never heard from them again. The other two offered great salaries and benefits. About 20% more than the previous companies.
So, I asked for more and I got more...eventually. Talking with my old and new coworkers, none of them had to go through the roller coaster I did to get a fair wage. And that is FAIR. Not rockstar salary, not code ninjas salary. Fair. I pride myself on having tough skin, but near the end of my first job the passive aggressiveness I felt from my boss made work unpleasant. All I did was assert myself as every self help, girls-just-don't-ask article/forum post told me to. I wasn't asking for the moon, I was literally asking just to be in the same goddamned ball park. So while I think there are so many great companies working hard to be fair and while this is just my experience (and knowing similar experiences of other female engineers), I feel there is some work to do. And more than women just need to ask more.