we are still talking about a beating for a spitting
You know which one spreads hepatitis and genital warts, right? Until a fight gets to the point of swapping blood, spitting is the worse biohazard. Broken bones can heal, but viruses are forever.
Also, in a "boys will be boys" environment, punching and wrestling are way more acceptable than anything non-standard. Since the second guy tends to be the one to get caught, responding with spit could be a bad move. (same as throwing things, pulling hair, etc.)
This was unprovoked spitting during class. It was a repeated mist of hard-to-see little dropplets. I think we had assigned seating; in any case he was next to me.
He **wants** to know he's annoyed me without consequence. He enjoys degrading me and thus damaging my social rank.
I could let it pass, but then everybody knows I'm a safe target. He'll continue, and others will join in. Instantly I go to the bottom of the social ranking. THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. Social ranking is critical, especially avoiding the low 20% ranking.
Instead I went after him. He was pretty quick about backing away, so he ended up with a very mild beating and his shirt pulled up over his head.
(I could let it pass only if nobody else has noticed and he isn't aware that I have noticed. This wasn't the case.)
After the fight, he respected me. He even said "I didn't think you had it in you.". He learned about me. More importantly, I didn't become a standard victim. I think the lesson was good for him too; if a bully keeps that up they eventually go to jail or get shot.
In my case, it was unprovoked spitting during class. It was a repeated mist of hard-to-see little dropplets.
I could let it pass, but then everybody knows I'm a safe target. He'll continue, and others will join in. Instantly I go to the bottom of the social ranking.
Instead I went after him. He was pretty quick about backing away, so he ended up with a very mild beating and his shirt pulled up over his head.
After that, he respected me. He even said "I didn't think you had it in you.". He learned about me. More importantly, I didn't become a standard victim. I think the lesson was good for him too; if a bully keeps that up they eventually go to jail or get shot.
If you're in the fight, you know exactly how it got started. You know who escalated.
The teacher probably didn't see how things started, and the teacher knows that at least one kid is sure to be lying. The kid running away or getting beaten up could have started things by silently spitting on the other kid.
Huawei is the world's top patent seeker. In 2009 they overtook Alcatel-Lucent to become world's No. 3 mobile network gear maker, doubling market share from the previous year. They also passed Nokia Siemens Networks for the No. 2 position in the global mobile infrastructure equipment market. They are No. 1 for DSLAMs (telco DSL equipment). They even make lots of cell phones.
Even if China were just "low end devices", that's still enough to pwn you. That'll let them get plans for you next product or info about you you plan to negotiate with the Chinese factory that makes your shit. Also, even "low end devices" means a bite out of your product line.
You work for a medical company. Might you have any info the Chinese would want? Oh, yes you do!
Google isn't about to put perfect clones of your medical devices on the market. China does this all the time. Famous example: the Chery QQ automobile. (FYI, Chery is a state-owned company)
Someday, like so many other clueless non-Chinese, you will wake up to find your competitive advantage is gone. Near-perfect clones flood the market. If you're lucky, you can prevent imports into the USA. You'll never stop the clones in China, and you'll never stop them from being imported to most other countries around the world.
My post was in response to one regarding the light from human activity being drowned out by the Sun.
Our light isn't much compared to the Sun, but it's modulated. Across large areas of the Earth, nearly all the lights are powered by synchronized AC electrical supply. Most lights flash twice for each cycle.
Microsoft was rightly terrified that a software ecosystem would develop around Java. At the time, many people expected Java to displace C++ and more.
Java was being shipped via the web, but it's not quite right to say that Java is the web or even that Java is a subset of the web. Java could run stand-alone, and it made apps portable to non-Win32.
We have large synchronized power grids. They'll get a signal that's 2x the line frequency. As the Earth turns, you get modulation of various sorts: frequency, phase, amplitude.
Amplitude goes down for oceans, and up for land. You get more 100 Hz for the Old World, and more 120 Hz for the New World. As different country-sized areas with the same line frequency pass into view, you get phase change.
If you're an alien dude who wants to score with the alien chicks, you might just impress them by collecting humans. You could embed a human in a chunk of pure carbon-12 diamond, mount that in an iridium ring, and slip it onto her tentacle. She might have thousands of tentacles.
Maybe you collect humans to sell as an aphrodesiac. You puts the heads on top of a snack, kind of like sea urchin eggs on sushi.
Maybe you lay eggs in the humans. Ever see that movie with the pods? The aliens take over human bodies. An infected human passionately embraces an uninfected human, and then the alien penis-thing (an ovipositer maybe?) bursts out of the infected person's forehead and stabs right into the uninfected person's forehead.
Maybe you even mate with the humans. You keep them in your flying saucer and rape them with **all** your tentacles in every oriface. When the alien babies are ready to be born, the humans explode.
If we stone the promiscuous, they can't breed. Evolution will quickly change human behavior.
This didn't work prior to DNA testing because we couldn't stone the father (sexist stoning) and because we often didn't even detect that a child was fathered by somebody other than the husband.
Hey, we can go one better. Let's do things like the ancient Chinese: you misbehave, and we kill all your immediate blood relatives. Anybody sharing half their chromosomes (or more, ugh) with you gets stoned: child, parent, sister, or brother. Unlike in ancient times, we won't miss that illegitimate kid you fathered with your cousin.
What next? Stoning girls because they weren't virgins on their wedding?
This would cut down on teen pregnancy, abortion, children growing up in broken families, STDs, and so much more.
Modern science allows us to hunt down most of the guys too, so we don't have to be sexist. We can now get DNA just from a touch, and we can track tiny mutations in the microbes that people normally carry. Even a virus like HIV has mutations that can help lead back to the guilty party.
We can build a database with everybody's DNA signature in it, and soon we'll be able to do full sequences including microbes. We could use GPS tracking on everybody so that we can reduce the search space. We could even have chastity belts with tamper alarms, for both male and female (they can alert on proximity).
For the stoning itself, I think we should televize it live. We can auction off the right to throw the first stones, and we can sell tickets to throw the rest of the stones.
We've had fly-by-wire for ages. It's used in all the giant passenger jets, and in all the modern figter planes. It's wonderful.
Drive-by-wire would let us get rid of the steering column. That improves layout under the hood and is a bit safer even than a collapsable steering column.
It would have beaten traditional steering for reliability if implemented with redundancy. An EMP kills **all** the redundant devices at once.
You're indulging in the "Not written here" attitude, where code that is written in any other codeshop is considered inferior.
If you're good enough, this is normally true!
The people hacking Firefox are people who enjoy writing code. It's not just a paycheck. It's a pretty good bet that most of them are good.
More importantly, you have to remember: documentation, interface changes, emergency repairs. Random not-written-here code often fails all 3 of those issues, especially if you don't have full source code rights.
Yes, your slackware from 1994 is full of security holes. The FAIL here is you trying to install an unsupported version of the OS and then complaining about it when it doesn't work.
Never did I suggest that I was running a random server exposed to the Internet. The box could be running some lab equipment that costs millions of dollars to replace, using a proprietary control program that won't run on a more modern OS. The box could be running a legacy app, with a modern system controlling things over a serial line. Shit happens.
The fact that an unsupported OS suffers bit rot is disgusting. The bits should just sit there forever, as they do for every Linux distribution except Gentoo.
I will never voluntarily put myself or my future successor in such a terrible position. Software needs to be available forever.
On that web page I see this: "The ports and doc trees use tags whose names begin with RELEASE tags." Excuse me, WTF? You're only going to tell me how the name begins and leave me to guess the end?
Can I go back 15 years? Can I do this for versions 1, 2, or 3?
What about all the stuff it drags in? Is the old source code actually there, or just the build system?
I sure hope that a CVS checkout isn't going to drag a bunch of old history with it. Gigabytes would be unfriendly.
I can go to Red Hat or Debian's site and just download the packages I want, either binary or source. Why does FreeBSD makes things so unusable?
The other day, I was installing an old FreeBSD system for compatibility with some stuff I had. I figure it's like installing an old Linux, right?
Wrong. When I install an old Linux, I can install all the old software. The *.rpm or *.deb files exist. FreeBSD doesn't work like that. It has ports. If your system is old, you're screwed. The ports system is only 100% available for the latest release. For older releases, there is a sort of weak idea that maybe it kind of sort of ought to be maintained when somebody bothers, but probably it'll just FAIL.
Really, that's crap. An OS shouldn't become unavailable as it ages. I might need it!
Slackware from 1994 still works as well as it did back then, 16 years ago. What's FreeBSD's problem?
Note the distinction between "broad definition" and "house connections". The city water situation is 24% house connection, 28% something else, and 48% **nothing** at all. (BTW, elsewhere I get a figure of "less than half" having access to clean drinking water)
Also note the "mostly intermittent" continuity of supply. Having a house connection doesn't mean you can rely on getting water.
This is the pre-quake situation. Haiti is like a chunk of sub-saharan Africa transplanted to the Western Hemisphere. You get it all: HIV, half the houses built without title to the land, automatic weapons fired in the streets, no sanitation, a single fire station, corruption from top to bottom, lack of school attendance, extremely young population, half the kids undersized from malnutrition...
Haitians are dying left and right in the best of times.
Suppose your dog is really really sick. It's hopeless. He's not going to get any better, and he's in a lot of pain. What do you do?
If it's not right to leave a dog suffering like that, how can it be right for a country?
Depending on how we put Haiti down, we might even get rid of the invasive species and then reboot the ecosystem. It could be a nice place in 100 years.
Most people didn't have water **before** the quake. The same goes for electrical power. It's only the well-to-do Haitians (probably having relatives in the USA to send money) who are experiencing this for the first time.
Lots of Haitians normally use the "flying toilet". You poop in an old plastic bag, step outside, and throw it as far as you can. I am not kidding. It's popular in Kenya too.
There is a reasonable argument that Haiti is better off than a place like post-Katrina New Orleans. No running water? Cool, the house didn't have a sink or toilet anyway!
You get 9974 feet (3040 meters) of asphalt in Haiti.
You need 8400 feet (2600 meters) for a C-5B to take off. That fits, and you'll be leaving empty anyway. You can knock 30% off of that if you use a C-5M.
Landings are even easier. They take only 3600 feet (1100 meters). You could do one on each end of the runway if you dare.
Finally, remember that this is a military cargo plane. It has lots of giant low-pressure tires. Plain dirt will work as long as you don't mind bulldozing/grading the ruts out of it after every flight.
BTW, all the other military cargo planes can land on dirt as well, and you can usually skip the bulldozer or grader because they don't dig in as much as the C-5.
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we are still talking about a beating for a spitting
You know which one spreads hepatitis and genital warts, right? Until a fight gets to the point of swapping blood, spitting is the worse biohazard. Broken bones can heal, but viruses are forever.
Also, in a "boys will be boys" environment, punching and wrestling are way more acceptable than anything non-standard. Since the second guy tends to be the one to get caught, responding with spit could be a bad move. (same as throwing things, pulling hair, etc.)
This was unprovoked spitting during class. It was a repeated mist of hard-to-see little dropplets. I think we had assigned seating; in any case he was next to me.
He **wants** to know he's annoyed me without consequence. He enjoys degrading me and thus damaging my social rank.
I could let it pass, but then everybody knows I'm a safe target. He'll continue, and others will join in. Instantly I go to the bottom of the social ranking. THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. Social ranking is critical, especially avoiding the low 20% ranking.
Instead I went after him. He was pretty quick about backing away, so he ended up with a very mild beating and his shirt pulled up over his head.
(I could let it pass only if nobody else has noticed and he isn't aware that I have noticed. This wasn't the case.)
After the fight, he respected me. He even said "I didn't think you had it in you.". He learned about me. More importantly, I didn't become a standard victim. I think the lesson was good for him too; if a bully keeps that up they eventually go to jail or get shot.
In my case, it was unprovoked spitting during class. It was a repeated mist of hard-to-see little dropplets.
I could let it pass, but then everybody knows I'm a safe target. He'll continue, and others will join in. Instantly I go to the bottom of the social ranking.
Instead I went after him. He was pretty quick about backing away, so he ended up with a very mild beating and his shirt pulled up over his head.
After that, he respected me. He even said "I didn't think you had it in you.". He learned about me. More importantly, I didn't become a standard victim. I think the lesson was good for him too; if a bully keeps that up they eventually go to jail or get shot.
If you're in the fight, you know exactly how it got started. You know who escalated.
The teacher probably didn't see how things started, and the teacher knows that at least one kid is sure to be lying. The kid running away or getting beaten up could have started things by silently spitting on the other kid.
Or do you really believe that Joe Average actually types https://www.mybank.com? You're lucky if they even get the www. part in.
Good point. Firefox should assume https by default.
(anybody have a Bugzilla acount? please file this)
Check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huawei
Huawei is the world's top patent seeker. In 2009 they overtook Alcatel-Lucent to become world's No. 3 mobile network gear maker, doubling market share from the previous year. They also passed Nokia Siemens Networks for the No. 2 position in the global mobile infrastructure equipment market. They are No. 1 for DSLAMs (telco DSL equipment). They even make lots of cell phones.
Even if China were just "low end devices", that's still enough to pwn you. That'll let them get plans for you next product or info about you you plan to negotiate with the Chinese factory that makes your shit. Also, even "low end devices" means a bite out of your product line.
You work for a medical company. Might you have any info the Chinese would want? Oh, yes you do!
Google isn't about to put perfect clones of your medical devices on the market. China does this all the time. Famous example: the Chery QQ automobile. (FYI, Chery is a state-owned company)
Someday, like so many other clueless non-Chinese, you will wake up to find your competitive advantage is gone. Near-perfect clones flood the market. If you're lucky, you can prevent imports into the USA. You'll never stop the clones in China, and you'll never stop them from being imported to most other countries around the world.
My post was in response to one regarding the light from human activity being drowned out by the Sun.
Our light isn't much compared to the Sun, but it's modulated. Across large areas of the Earth, nearly all the lights are powered by synchronized AC electrical supply. Most lights flash twice for each cycle.
If you have "ultra-high security requirements" then you need to get those computers off the net.
Physically unplug them. Uninstall any wireless drivers and remove any wireless antennas.
Somebody needs the internet? Get them an iPhone.
Microsoft even provides a free IE-only VM (IE6 and XP) for web compatibility, so you have no excuse for IE6 as your normal browser.
A certain level of corporate stupidity and inertia is to be expected. Beyond that, you need to realize that there are other employers.
Microsoft was rightly terrified that a software ecosystem would develop around Java. At the time, many people expected Java to displace C++ and more.
Java was being shipped via the web, but it's not quite right to say that Java is the web or even that Java is a subset of the web. Java could run stand-alone, and it made apps portable to non-Win32.
We have large synchronized power grids. They'll get a signal that's 2x the line frequency. As the Earth turns, you get modulation of various sorts: frequency, phase, amplitude.
Amplitude goes down for oceans, and up for land. You get more 100 Hz for the Old World, and more 120 Hz for the New World. As different country-sized areas with the same line frequency pass into view, you get phase change.
It all has a nicely repetitive 24-hour period.
If you're an alien dude who wants to score with the alien chicks, you might just impress them by collecting humans. You could embed a human in a chunk of pure carbon-12 diamond, mount that in an iridium ring, and slip it onto her tentacle. She might have thousands of tentacles.
Maybe you collect humans to sell as an aphrodesiac. You puts the heads on top of a snack, kind of like sea urchin eggs on sushi.
Maybe you lay eggs in the humans. Ever see that movie with the pods? The aliens take over human bodies. An infected human passionately embraces an uninfected human, and then the alien penis-thing (an ovipositer maybe?) bursts out of the infected person's forehead and stabs right into the uninfected person's forehead.
Maybe you even mate with the humans. You keep them in your flying saucer and rape them with **all** your tentacles in every oriface. When the alien babies are ready to be born, the humans explode.
We really don't need her DNA in the gene pool. The same goes for the guy.
That's even without the threat of stoning. If they know they'll get stoned and still don't stop, then we REALLY don't want their DNA in the gene pool.
Heck, let's stone their blood relatives to be sure.
If we stone the promiscuous, they can't breed. Evolution will quickly change human behavior.
This didn't work prior to DNA testing because we couldn't stone the father (sexist stoning) and because we often didn't even detect that a child was fathered by somebody other than the husband.
Hey, we can go one better. Let's do things like the ancient Chinese: you misbehave, and we kill all your immediate blood relatives. Anybody sharing half their chromosomes (or more, ugh) with you gets stoned: child, parent, sister, or brother. Unlike in ancient times, we won't miss that illegitimate kid you fathered with your cousin.
What next? Stoning girls because they weren't virgins on their wedding?
This would cut down on teen pregnancy, abortion, children growing up in broken families, STDs, and so much more.
Modern science allows us to hunt down most of the guys too, so we don't have to be sexist. We can now get DNA just from a touch, and we can track tiny mutations in the microbes that people normally carry. Even a virus like HIV has mutations that can help lead back to the guilty party.
We can build a database with everybody's DNA signature in it, and soon we'll be able to do full sequences including microbes. We could use GPS tracking on everybody so that we can reduce the search space. We could even have chastity belts with tamper alarms, for both male and female (they can alert on proximity).
For the stoning itself, I think we should televize it live. We can auction off the right to throw the first stones, and we can sell tickets to throw the rest of the stones.
This kills an opportunity to improve vehicles.
We've had fly-by-wire for ages. It's used in all the giant passenger jets, and in all the modern figter planes. It's wonderful.
Drive-by-wire would let us get rid of the steering column. That improves layout under the hood and is a bit safer even than a collapsable steering column.
It would have beaten traditional steering for reliability if implemented with redundancy. An EMP kills **all** the redundant devices at once.
You're indulging in the "Not written here" attitude, where code that is written in any other codeshop is considered inferior.
If you're good enough, this is normally true!
The people hacking Firefox are people who enjoy writing code. It's not just a paycheck. It's a pretty good bet that most of them are good.
More importantly, you have to remember: documentation, interface changes, emergency repairs. Random not-written-here code often fails all 3 of those issues, especially if you don't have full source code rights.
Yes, your slackware from 1994 is full of security holes. The FAIL here is you trying to install an unsupported version of the OS and then complaining about it when it doesn't work.
Never did I suggest that I was running a random server exposed to the Internet. The box could be running some lab equipment that costs millions of dollars to replace, using a proprietary control program that won't run on a more modern OS. The box could be running a legacy app, with a modern system controlling things over a serial line. Shit happens.
The fact that an unsupported OS suffers bit rot is disgusting. The bits should just sit there forever, as they do for every Linux distribution except Gentoo.
I will never voluntarily put myself or my future successor in such a terrible position. Software needs to be available forever.
No excuses!!!
In theory, perhaps.
On that web page I see this: "The ports and doc trees use tags whose names begin with RELEASE tags." Excuse me, WTF? You're only going to tell me how the name begins and leave me to guess the end?
Can I go back 15 years? Can I do this for versions 1, 2, or 3?
What about all the stuff it drags in? Is the old source code actually there, or just the build system?
I sure hope that a CVS checkout isn't going to drag a bunch of old history with it. Gigabytes would be unfriendly.
I can go to Red Hat or Debian's site and just download the packages I want, either binary or source. Why does FreeBSD makes things so unusable?
The other day, I was installing an old FreeBSD system for compatibility with some stuff I had. I figure it's like installing an old Linux, right?
Wrong. When I install an old Linux, I can install all the old software. The *.rpm or *.deb files exist. FreeBSD doesn't work like that. It has ports. If your system is old, you're screwed. The ports system is only 100% available for the latest release. For older releases, there is a sort of weak idea that maybe it kind of sort of ought to be maintained when somebody bothers, but probably it'll just FAIL.
Really, that's crap. An OS shouldn't become unavailable as it ages. I might need it!
Slackware from 1994 still works as well as it did back then, 16 years ago. What's FreeBSD's problem?
Many people buy water in containers. This can be a sizable chunk of their budget.
It really is horrible, and always has been. Look:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_supply_and_sanitation_in_Haiti
Note the distinction between "broad definition" and "house connections". The city water situation is 24% house connection, 28% something else, and 48% **nothing** at all. (BTW, elsewhere I get a figure of "less than half" having access to clean drinking water)
Also note the "mostly intermittent" continuity of supply. Having a house connection doesn't mean you can rely on getting water.
This is the pre-quake situation. Haiti is like a chunk of sub-saharan Africa transplanted to the Western Hemisphere. You get it all: HIV, half the houses built without title to the land, automatic weapons fired in the streets, no sanitation, a single fire station, corruption from top to bottom, lack of school attendance, extremely young population, half the kids undersized from malnutrition...
Haitians are dying left and right in the best of times.
Suppose your dog is really really sick. It's hopeless. He's not going to get any better, and he's in a lot of pain. What do you do?
If it's not right to leave a dog suffering like that, how can it be right for a country?
Depending on how we put Haiti down, we might even get rid of the invasive species and then reboot the ecosystem. It could be a nice place in 100 years.
Most people didn't have water **before** the quake. The same goes for electrical power. It's only the well-to-do Haitians (probably having relatives in the USA to send money) who are experiencing this for the first time.
Lots of Haitians normally use the "flying toilet". You poop in an old plastic bag, step outside, and throw it as far as you can. I am not kidding. It's popular in Kenya too.
There is a reasonable argument that Haiti is better off than a place like post-Katrina New Orleans. No running water? Cool, the house didn't have a sink or toilet anyway!
You get 9974 feet (3040 meters) of asphalt in Haiti.
You need 8400 feet (2600 meters) for a C-5B to take off. That fits, and you'll be leaving empty anyway. You can knock 30% off of that if you use a C-5M.
Landings are even easier. They take only 3600 feet (1100 meters). You could do one on each end of the runway if you dare.
Finally, remember that this is a military cargo plane. It has lots of giant low-pressure tires. Plain dirt will work as long as you don't mind bulldozing/grading the ruts out of it after every flight.
BTW, all the other military cargo planes can land on dirt as well, and you can usually skip the bulldozer or grader because they don't dig in as much as the C-5.