A person who makes their living writing words is replacing a typewriter with a computer and is interested in putting those words on paper - go figure. How is talking about your lack of need for such a thing relevant to the conversation in any way?
IANAL, so I'm wondering if IBM would have to consolidate all patent violation lawsuits into one giant case, or if they can pursue them individually. If the latter, how long could SCO last before the cost of having to defend 329 different patent lawsuits in 187 different jurisdictions bled them dry?
I'm not typically in favor of the big guys smacking around little companies, but you can only watch a loud-mouthed runt taunt the playground tough guy for so long before you start chanting "Fight!".
The compsci department at my university had a little Linux box for students to use and a complete idiot to run it [1]. As an example, one time I ran "./configure" for some harmless program or another and he freaked out and reported me for "hacking" because it splashed files outside of my home directory (in/tmp if I remember right).
Any way, I started touch'ing files in a world-unreadable subdirectory under $HOME like "paul bender can kiss my butt" and "paul bender dates his mother". He couldn't really say anything about it because that would be admitting that he was snooping around in places that noone but me should have access to, but some of the dirty looks were priceless.
As mentioned before on Slashdot, he now works for the NSA. Your tax dollars are funding this idiot's paycheck. That's also the reason that I still have "$HOME/paul bender uses drugs" on my personal server at home. If the NSA really can break strong crypto and they've been digging through my system, then that's my way of saying "hi!".
As someone who had to dig through the site numerous times to install "hidden" versions, I can understand being annoyed at Real, but I can't understand holding it against them. I mean, their business model has always included selling a "premium" player. It seems to me that the fact that they were giving away a gratis version should mitigate the fact that it wasn't prominently linked on the front page of their site.
Should we be angry at department stores for not putting their brand-name clearance racks immediately inside the front door, or is it understandable that they make you walk past the regular-price goods in order to get to them?
There are plenty of legitimate reasons to dislike the old Real. Making you dig through their site for a free version of their flagship product isn't one of them.
OK, first, that's not my thing either. However, have you ever noticed that almost every Slashdot article mentioning a new window manager or GIMP release or OS review features a screenshot with naked-chick-du-jour as the background? Frankly, it would take a lot of wieners for the gay geek contingent to even remotely approach a representative sample.
Having said that, I would much rather see everyone adopt, say, a picture of a waterfall or forest than to see the straight and gay populations battle it our for domination of the screenshot background wars.
but you can't really have expected them to take you too seriously, can you?
Absolutely so. On their site they specifically list a way to ask about educational discounts, so it's not like I was inventing a reason to pay less than everyone else.
Beyond that, though, I'm sure they have to have a rather tiny market. I'm sure that Sun could afford quite a few missed sales of this size, but I can't imagine that Netraverse can.
Finally, if my boss found out that I ignored a sales inquiry - any sales inquiry - I'd be fired immediately. For all they know, I'm the IT guy of a school system and wanting to try out something for my kid before recommending it to the school board. I'm not, but they wouldn't know since they've never answered a single question.
Seriously? Quickbooks Pro 2002 (and later) runs on your system, and not just regular Quickbooks? I'd be happy to find out that I'm wrong about Crossover since I trust them and would buy from them without hesitation.
What the hell are you talking about??? What's wrong with the BUY link on this page?
Did you read a single word that I wrote? I wanted to know if I qualified for an educational discount and their sales department has completely ignored my inquiries. That is what's wrong with the buy link on that page - it's a frontend to a company that can't be bothered replying to sales questions.
If they won't answer a question about pricing, do you honestly think they'll care about tech support? Frankly, at this point I've completely written them off.
I need to run a very short list of apps under Linux, namely Quickbooks Pro 2002 (don't say Wine - not even Codeweavers has gotten this particular program to work). I'd like to use a Free solution, but I'd settle for a non-Free program since it would be replacing a non-Free Windows 2000 machine that I keep around specifically for this purpose. Vmware seems to work pretty well, but at $189 it's a little too non-gratis for my purposes.
Win4Lin is no longer for sale. I base this on the fact that I wrote to them two months ago to ask about an educational discount so that I could buy a copy for my kids to use to play Reader Rabbit. A week later, I got a trouble ticket notification but it said that I have to be a registered user to access it. I've since written to support@netraverse.com and Cc:'ed sales@ and education@ as recently as July 19 but have still received to reply whatsoever. In other words, Netraverse is no longer accepting solicitations to buy their product, so I'm writing them off as dead (and at this point I would refuse to buy from them anyway).
So, are there any Free or reasonably-priced emulators that can get, say, a Windows 98 image running at a speed useful for office-type applications on a gigahertz class system? If not, I may bite the bullet and buy Vmware, but my budget is really hoping for something cheaper.
Excellent! Thanks for the files, and thanks for pursuing this thread so actively.
Your welcome. Actually, I'm not sure why I'm tracking it so closely. I mean, I like zsh and bash, just one a bit more than the other. You'd think I owned stock in it from my posts, but I'm just a contended user.:)
I hope you've won some converts today!
Believe it or not, I'm really not that interested. What I would like is for more users to be exposed to the idea that bash isn't the only shell in widespread use. I was kind of nervous about making the leap to zsh ("But everyone uses bash!"), and I'd like to help other people try it out more easily. If they try it, hate it, and go back to bash within a few minutes, cool - at least they saw something other than what they're used to.
I amended the page for DotZshRc to point out that you really need to create both.zshrc and.zshenv from my site to get the full experience. Through this moment, over 200 people have visited the DotZshRc page, but only about 80 have seen DotZshEnv. If you're in the 120-user disjoint, then go back and snag the other one too!
That was a wild mod ride!
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Man, all I wanted to do was say that I also liked zsh. I didn't think that many people were so wrapped up in their shells.
My post started with +2 (cause I are 1337). Then I got an "Interesting", two "Overrated"s, a "Funny", and most recently a "Flamebait".
Come on, mods: can I have an "Insightful" and an "Underrated", too?
I mentioned this in another post, but I'm the maintainer of the shells/bash-completion port for FreeBSD. I'm pretty familiar with that script. While it does a pretty good job of working as expected, it definitely doesn't meet any definition of "sane" in common usage. Type "set" to look at the stuff it puts into your variable list.
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You can always install Internet Explorer. Honestly, why should we Windows users wait for everyone else? It's not like the writers of those web pages owed it to you to write them your way.
It's all about the standards, my friend.
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As the maintainer of FreeBSD's bash-completion port, I'm reasonably familiar with it. Yes, it's approximately as powerful as zsh's completion module. Still, have you ever looked at it? It's a giant set of defined functions and glue. Seriously, get to a bash prompt and type "set" to see all of the things that've been stuffed into your shell's namespace. Now, try that with zsh and be pleasantly surprised.
As I said in another post, a big side effect is that zsh's completions seem to be much faster than bash's. That alone is worth the price of admission for me.
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You're assuming that the poster has full admin rights on the machine in question. That's the same sort of mindset that causes people to write sh scripts in bash and expect them to work everywhere.
Not meaning to bag on you, but that really is a serious annoyance for people working on non-Linux systems.
Because you are not me
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There's an old saying: "there's no accounting for tastes". Most people take that to mean that you just can't explain why other people like the things they do. Another valid interpretation is that you are not accountable for your tastes, meaning that you don't have to defend your preferences.
You like using a GUI and I like using a terminal. We're two people with two preferred methods of interacting with our machines. Your way is superior - for you. My way is superior - for me. There is no point (or obligation) to argue about which is better, since "better" is not a well-ordered set in this case.
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I'm not typically in favor of the big guys smacking around little companies, but you can only watch a loud-mouthed runt taunt the playground tough guy for so long before you start chanting "Fight!".
Any way, I started touch'ing files in a world-unreadable subdirectory under $HOME like "paul bender can kiss my butt" and "paul bender dates his mother". He couldn't really say anything about it because that would be admitting that he was snooping around in places that noone but me should have access to, but some of the dirty looks were priceless.
As mentioned before on Slashdot, he now works for the NSA. Your tax dollars are funding this idiot's paycheck. That's also the reason that I still have "$HOME/paul bender uses drugs" on my personal server at home. If the NSA really can break strong crypto and they've been digging through my system, then that's my way of saying "hi!".
As someone who had to dig through the site numerous times to install "hidden" versions, I can understand being annoyed at Real, but I can't understand holding it against them. I mean, their business model has always included selling a "premium" player. It seems to me that the fact that they were giving away a gratis version should mitigate the fact that it wasn't prominently linked on the front page of their site.
Should we be angry at department stores for not putting their brand-name clearance racks immediately inside the front door, or is it understandable that they make you walk past the regular-price goods in order to get to them?
There are plenty of legitimate reasons to dislike the old Real. Making you dig through their site for a free version of their flagship product isn't one of them.
Having said that, I would much rather see everyone adopt, say, a picture of a waterfall or forest than to see the straight and gay populations battle it our for domination of the screenshot background wars.
See also http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=116570&cid=986 4724 that I wrote about seven hours before your post (but accidentally sent as an AC - still getting used to this trackball).
Absolutely so. On their site they specifically list a way to ask about educational discounts, so it's not like I was inventing a reason to pay less than everyone else.
Beyond that, though, I'm sure they have to have a rather tiny market. I'm sure that Sun could afford quite a few missed sales of this size, but I can't imagine that Netraverse can.
Finally, if my boss found out that I ignored a sales inquiry - any sales inquiry - I'd be fired immediately. For all they know, I'm the IT guy of a school system and wanting to try out something for my kid before recommending it to the school board. I'm not, but they wouldn't know since they've never answered a single question.
Seriously? Quickbooks Pro 2002 (and later) runs on your system, and not just regular Quickbooks? I'd be happy to find out that I'm wrong about Crossover since I trust them and would buy from them without hesitation.
Did you read a single word that I wrote? I wanted to know if I qualified for an educational discount and their sales department has completely ignored my inquiries. That is what's wrong with the buy link on that page - it's a frontend to a company that can't be bothered replying to sales questions.
If they won't answer a question about pricing, do you honestly think they'll care about tech support? Frankly, at this point I've completely written them off.
Win4Lin is no longer for sale. I base this on the fact that I wrote to them two months ago to ask about an educational discount so that I could buy a copy for my kids to use to play Reader Rabbit. A week later, I got a trouble ticket notification but it said that I have to be a registered user to access it. I've since written to support@netraverse.com and Cc:'ed sales@ and education@ as recently as July 19 but have still received to reply whatsoever. In other words, Netraverse is no longer accepting solicitations to buy their product, so I'm writing them off as dead (and at this point I would refuse to buy from them anyway).
So, are there any Free or reasonably-priced emulators that can get, say, a Windows 98 image running at a speed useful for office-type applications on a gigahertz class system? If not, I may bite the bullet and buy Vmware, but my budget is really hoping for something cheaper.
It does work for all hosts lists in /etc/hosts. Just so you know. :)
Your welcome. Actually, I'm not sure why I'm tracking it so closely. I mean, I like zsh and bash, just one a bit more than the other. You'd think I owned stock in it from my posts, but I'm just a contended user. :)
I hope you've won some converts today!
Believe it or not, I'm really not that interested. What I would like is for more users to be exposed to the idea that bash isn't the only shell in widespread use. I was kind of nervous about making the leap to zsh ("But everyone uses bash!"), and I'd like to help other people try it out more easily. If they try it, hate it, and go back to bash within a few minutes, cool - at least they saw something other than what they're used to.
Much better! Thanks for the tip.
See my other post at http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=116172&cid=983 2369. I fixed the '^?' problem on the website so it should be copy-and-pastable.
Fixed - thanks!
The point is that both needless departures from established standards creative extra grief for end users where none need exist.
I amended the page for DotZshRc to point out that you really need to create both .zshrc and .zshenv from my site to get the full experience. Through this moment, over 200 people have visited the DotZshRc page, but only about 80 have seen DotZshEnv. If you're in the 120-user disjoint, then go back and snag the other one too!
My post started with +2 (cause I are 1337). Then I got an "Interesting", two "Overrated"s, a "Funny", and most recently a "Flamebait".
Come on, mods: can I have an "Insightful" and an "Underrated", too?
I mentioned this in another post, but I'm the maintainer of the shells/bash-completion port for FreeBSD. I'm pretty familiar with that script. While it does a pretty good job of working as expected, it definitely doesn't meet any definition of "sane" in common usage. Type "set" to look at the stuff it puts into your variable list.
It's all about the standards, my friend.
As I said in another post, a big side effect is that zsh's completions seem to be much faster than bash's. That alone is worth the price of admission for me.
Not meaning to bag on you, but that really is a serious annoyance for people working on non-Linux systems.
You like using a GUI and I like using a terminal. We're two people with two preferred methods of interacting with our machines. Your way is superior - for you. My way is superior - for me. There is no point (or obligation) to argue about which is better, since "better" is not a well-ordered set in this case.