the argument is that phones allow them to coordinate. But hell, walkie-talkies allow them to as well:P There's really not much that the restriction stops that isn't easy to get around...would be like the US gov asking you to use their DNS servers, which then don't have entries for things they don't want you to see. So...use 8.8.8.8 instead:P
yeah, seems to be what I've been reading. Problem is, we got some cheap phone at a corner market, and bought phone cards to go with it...I wouldn't have the foggiest what "store" I should go to;)
The idea of the things was to turn them on and use them while we were down there - just a couple days a month. Doesn't really justify a normal phone with monthly plans, etc.
If you're not a resident, or a citizen, you have to register in person according to this article.
If you are a foreigner visiting Mexico and don't have a CURP, but currently use a local Mexican mobile phone, you cannot register your existing cell phone online or by text message. Instead, you need to visit your mobile operator's customer service center and present your passport as identification. The attendant will take your personal details and you may also be fingerprinted as part of the procedure. Mexicans and foreign residents are routinely fingerprinted here; for example, finger prints are already on file for all Mexican citizens under the CURP scheme.
The person above was semi-correct, though only on a technicality;) To have a CURP you either have to be a Mexican citizen, or a non-citizen resident with a VISA. Which means if you're neither a citizen nor a resident, and merely just someone who travels there frequently enough to have a Mexican cell phone, you have to go through quite a few more hoops now to have a cell phone. Or, I suppose, you could just find a resident there that doesn't have a cell phone, and pay them to register it there for you...
a few months back I was driving along in TJ with a group of women and refrained from pointing out the two bridges in a row that had a person (each) hung from them. It wasn't until the next day when they read about it in the news, knowing we went down that road, that a few of them realized they had seen something, but didn't think about it. Sometimes that's the best way - to not think about it. Another of our volunteers got separated once from the caravan, having decided that day to drive their own car - they got lost, and ended up passing a man being burned alive by a gang. She never drove her own car there again, that's for certain...
So yeah..."essential liberties" that we get upset about up here north of the boarder really aren't that essential. For a place that's so close to us, it's...very, very far away.
We don't live there. As I mentioned, we have these phones to prevent international roaming - meaning, we don't live there. I'm not going to move to Mexico just to have a cell phone there.
My wife and I help run an animal rescue group down in TJ (http://www.friendsofhstj.org) and several of our members have Mexico phones so we can call people while there, and not pay international roaming:P
I didn't even know about this, and since only Mexican citizens have one of these CURP numbers...apparently non-Mexicans have to do a bit extra to have a working phone there.
Current events? Which is the only country to have ever had a successful mission on mars? And as a person who is highly involved in biotech (my wife was featured on the cover of Journal of Virology recently, for instance) I can promise you...not only are we not as far behind as you claim, we're ahead. We're/still/ leading in genetics, pharmacology, medical research, etc. You can mock us, and think us just a bunch of hicks if you wish - but compare the number of top research institutions here with those in the EU. You complain about me mentioning specifics that are old (like genetics, which we still lead in), and then you bring up the automotive industry? Seriously?
if you mean the first mammal cloned: British scientists?
If I had meant that, I would have said it. The man who cloned the first animal was here in the US, and died 13 years before Dolly was even cloned. Try again.
And so on for the rest of your post - half of it wasn't even disagreeing with me.
who cloned the first living animal? if an AIDs vaccine is found, where will that most likely be? Where was the Human Genome Project? Where every newest generation phone designed (even the ones we don't have access to)? Where was every major operating system in use on the planet designed? (even Linus came here to make Linux go from pet project to something real) Where was almost every major computer hardware component originally designed and conceived (NICs, math processors, video processors, storage tech, etc etc).
Again...who is it you think is leading us? Unless you're confusing "technological leadership" with "technology consumption leadership."
Yeah, Japan has us in the androids market, I'll give ya that. It's not part of our culture here to be obsessed with such things - we're happy with robots that are just robots, and that build cars or vacuum our house.
40 years ago wasn't the Internet. That would be like saying my grandmother gave birth to me.
Whether patents are abused is irrelevant to the point; the point is we're still the ones coming up with the crap in the first place, which is pretty much technological leadership.
there is absolutely, positively, no one that "do[es] it for convenience" with any distro released in the last bloody decade that has any statistically relevant user base. Every little tool along the way would complain about you being root, nagging you until the easiest thing to do is to just log in as a regular user.
we've lost the world's tech leadership position? Really? And who made the Internet?
Or, lets go the other direction...who would you put ahead of us, and for what? Linus came here for a reason, I'm pretty sure. We have most the patents, our problem is that many countries don't respect patents.
It's one of those hacks that is cool because it's deeply wrong, not something that is in any way sensible.
You apparently don't fully understand the bane on existence that flash is. The POC is as a flash replacement, not as a platform for replacing your xbox/ps3/wii.
I register for every account with a random birthday, and other personal information. Why? because if people aren't going to be honest with what they're going to do with that information, then I'm not going to be honest with the information I give. Fark em.
except that's not a triangle, because triangles are planar objects. Planes can intersect spheres, but that doesn't somehow mean that the plane is 3d all the sudden.
It's difficult to prove a negative, but it's not impossible. You merely prove it by eliminating the possibility that it is true - leaving only the possibility that it is false.
Would you suggest it's impossible for me to prove that a full-grown african elephant is not eating bananas in my pantry right now? That's silly - I merely prove that the size of such an elephant is larger than the size of my pantry, thus eliminating the possibility that it is true. You've confused yourself if you think it's any more impossible to prove a negative than it is to prove a positive; prove there's an african elephant anywhere in africa right now?
I know what you're gonna say...there was nothing usable until Windows 7, that's why you're using an operating system that was released nearly 10 years ago.
Bullshit. There was Linux, OSX, and others. You've had plenty of options. Hanging on to that ancient crap, and expecting the vendor to still support it, is silly.
(just upset that he STILL can't use SNI because of idiotic XP users)
Everyone already learned everything there is to know on the interwebs, no longer needing to search for it on google.com anymore. Now, they're logging in to facebook to share their knowledge with their friends!
That's the problem.. the article is slashdotted and I don't trust a summary. In a legal case the term "third party" is not necessarily what you think it means. If a plaintiff is suing a defendant then a "third party" could be anyone the plaintiff chose to send an email to.
That's the problem...a person writing as though he's an authority on the subject can't do a web search for Rehberg v. Paulk 11th circuit and thus read the court's ruling for themselves. I'm no legal expert, but at least I was able to get that much info out of the summary and find the direct link to the court's opinion...in less time than it took to write the first sentence of my response...
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that's twice as much per launch than what they can pay the soviets.
the argument is that phones allow them to coordinate. But hell, walkie-talkies allow them to as well :P There's really not much that the restriction stops that isn't easy to get around...would be like the US gov asking you to use their DNS servers, which then don't have entries for things they don't want you to see. So...use 8.8.8.8 instead :P
yeah, seems to be what I've been reading. Problem is, we got some cheap phone at a corner market, and bought phone cards to go with it...I wouldn't have the foggiest what "store" I should go to ;)
The idea of the things was to turn them on and use them while we were down there - just a couple days a month. Doesn't really justify a normal phone with monthly plans, etc.
google search: mexico cellphone foreigner.
If you're not a resident, or a citizen, you have to register in person according to this article.
If you are a foreigner visiting Mexico and don't have a CURP, but currently use a local Mexican mobile phone, you cannot register your existing cell phone online or by text message. Instead, you need to visit your mobile operator's customer service center and present your passport as identification. The attendant will take your personal details and you may also be fingerprinted as part of the procedure. Mexicans and foreign residents are routinely fingerprinted here; for example, finger prints are already on file for all Mexican citizens under the CURP scheme.
The person above was semi-correct, though only on a technicality ;) To have a CURP you either have to be a Mexican citizen, or a non-citizen resident with a VISA. Which means if you're neither a citizen nor a resident, and merely just someone who travels there frequently enough to have a Mexican cell phone, you have to go through quite a few more hoops now to have a cell phone. Or, I suppose, you could just find a resident there that doesn't have a cell phone, and pay them to register it there for you...
a few months back I was driving along in TJ with a group of women and refrained from pointing out the two bridges in a row that had a person (each) hung from them. It wasn't until the next day when they read about it in the news, knowing we went down that road, that a few of them realized they had seen something, but didn't think about it. Sometimes that's the best way - to not think about it. Another of our volunteers got separated once from the caravan, having decided that day to drive their own car - they got lost, and ended up passing a man being burned alive by a gang. She never drove her own car there again, that's for certain...
So yeah..."essential liberties" that we get upset about up here north of the boarder really aren't that essential. For a place that's so close to us, it's...very, very far away.
We don't live there. As I mentioned, we have these phones to prevent international roaming - meaning, we don't live there. I'm not going to move to Mexico just to have a cell phone there.
My wife and I help run an animal rescue group down in TJ (http://www.friendsofhstj.org) and several of our members have Mexico phones so we can call people while there, and not pay international roaming :P
I didn't even know about this, and since only Mexican citizens have one of these CURP numbers...apparently non-Mexicans have to do a bit extra to have a working phone there.
and if you loved going to school as a kid and doing homework every night, then you're a sick freak. Otherwise, your point is moot.
"insightful..."
you wouldn't have learned it that fast in college, had you not already learned it in high school. Education is a cumulative process.
manufacturing isn't technological leadership.
Current events? Which is the only country to have ever had a successful mission on mars? And as a person who is highly involved in biotech (my wife was featured on the cover of Journal of Virology recently, for instance) I can promise you...not only are we not as far behind as you claim, we're ahead. We're /still/ leading in genetics, pharmacology, medical research, etc. You can mock us, and think us just a bunch of hicks if you wish - but compare the number of top research institutions here with those in the EU. You complain about me mentioning specifics that are old (like genetics, which we still lead in), and then you bring up the automotive industry? Seriously?
if you mean the first mammal cloned: British scientists?
If I had meant that, I would have said it. The man who cloned the first animal was here in the US, and died 13 years before Dolly was even cloned. Try again.
And so on for the rest of your post - half of it wasn't even disagreeing with me.
or, lets put it another way...
who cloned the first living animal?
if an AIDs vaccine is found, where will that most likely be?
Where was the Human Genome Project?
Where every newest generation phone designed (even the ones we don't have access to)?
Where was every major operating system in use on the planet designed? (even Linus came here to make Linux go from pet project to something real)
Where was almost every major computer hardware component originally designed and conceived (NICs, math processors, video processors, storage tech, etc etc).
Again...who is it you think is leading us? Unless you're confusing "technological leadership" with "technology consumption leadership."
Yeah, Japan has us in the androids market, I'll give ya that. It's not part of our culture here to be obsessed with such things - we're happy with robots that are just robots, and that build cars or vacuum our house.
40 years ago wasn't the Internet. That would be like saying my grandmother gave birth to me.
Whether patents are abused is irrelevant to the point; the point is we're still the ones coming up with the crap in the first place, which is pretty much technological leadership.
You didn't say who you thought was ahead of us...
there is absolutely, positively, no one that "do[es] it for convenience" with any distro released in the last bloody decade that has any statistically relevant user base. Every little tool along the way would complain about you being root, nagging you until the easiest thing to do is to just log in as a regular user.
we've lost the world's tech leadership position? Really? And who made the Internet?
Or, lets go the other direction...who would you put ahead of us, and for what? Linus came here for a reason, I'm pretty sure. We have most the patents, our problem is that many countries don't respect patents.
that...low?
It's one of those hacks that is cool because it's deeply wrong, not something that is in any way sensible.
You apparently don't fully understand the bane on existence that flash is. The POC is as a flash replacement, not as a platform for replacing your xbox/ps3/wii.
I register for every account with a random birthday, and other personal information. Why? because if people aren't going to be honest with what they're going to do with that information, then I'm not going to be honest with the information I give. Fark em.
wow...that's bloody observant of you. I don't think anyone in the discussion was confused about that part, though.
except that's not a triangle, because triangles are planar objects. Planes can intersect spheres, but that doesn't somehow mean that the plane is 3d all the sudden.
It's difficult to prove a negative, but it's not impossible. You merely prove it by eliminating the possibility that it is true - leaving only the possibility that it is false.
Would you suggest it's impossible for me to prove that a full-grown african elephant is not eating bananas in my pantry right now? That's silly - I merely prove that the size of such an elephant is larger than the size of my pantry, thus eliminating the possibility that it is true. You've confused yourself if you think it's any more impossible to prove a negative than it is to prove a positive; prove there's an african elephant anywhere in africa right now?
I know what you're gonna say...there was nothing usable until Windows 7, that's why you're using an operating system that was released nearly 10 years ago.
Bullshit. There was Linux, OSX, and others. You've had plenty of options. Hanging on to that ancient crap, and expecting the vendor to still support it, is silly.
(just upset that he STILL can't use SNI because of idiotic XP users)
Everyone already learned everything there is to know on the interwebs, no longer needing to search for it on google.com anymore. Now, they're logging in to facebook to share their knowledge with their friends!
That's the problem.. the article is slashdotted and I don't trust a summary. In a legal case the term "third party" is not necessarily what you think it means. If a plaintiff is suing a defendant then a "third party" could be anyone the plaintiff chose to send an email to.
That's the problem...a person writing as though he's an authority on the subject can't do a web search for Rehberg v. Paulk 11th circuit and thus read the court's ruling for themselves. I'm no legal expert, but at least I was able to get that much info out of the summary and find the direct link to the court's opinion...in less time than it took to write the first sentence of my response...
It's a sad, sad day when a summary doesn't have all the details about something. Sad, sad day.
so...someone's mental health is not relevant to whether or not they can work on top secret projects?