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Novell Wins vs. SCO
Aim Here writes "According to Novell's website, and the Salt Lake Tribune, the jury in the SCO v. Novell trial has returned a verdict: Novell owns the Unix copyrights. This also means that SCO's case against IBM must surely collapse too, and likely the now bankrupt SCO group itself. It's taken 7 years, but the US court system has eventually done the right thing ..." No doubt this is the last we will ever hear of any of this.
But at least that part is over. There's still a little cleaning up to do but this one could be over and done with finally this summer. If you like Groklaw, head over and give PJ a pat on the back for her long perseverence.
Congrats to Novell's legal team.
/SCO die,die,die!
Help stamp out iliturcy.
It's about time to hear a verdict on this one?
I'm starting to think GNU is the problem with "GNU/Linux" these days.
SCO is a jerk...
Someday we'll hit the human carrying capacity. And the band will just play on.
Novell wins...fatality!
Hopefully they'll finally die. But surely they'll be back in a George Romero movie.
-- Political fascism requires a Fuhrer.
Remember, It's not *just* Darl McBride, it's also the people that allowed him to do this. That includes the rest of the board and the stockholder of SCO. McBride might be the public figure-head, but he didn't do it on his own.
If you want news from today, you have to come back tomorrow.
Unless someone finds a way to remove Darl's vocal cords we'll have not heard the last of this by any stretch of the imagination...
We're doomed to hear SCO's moanings until DNF is released.
--- Users are like bacteria -> Each one causing a thousand tiny crises until the host finally gives up and dies.
Hurray! Just in time for Novell to be bought out by Microsoft.
...is like declaring victory because you're the last person to hit the ground in the plane crash. How much has this cost Novell and IBM in real $$'s? With SCO bankrupt how can either expect to recoup any of the 7 years of court costs?
Error:
"It's taken 7 years, but the US court system has eventually done the right thing..."
This. Is a contradiction. Justice delayed is justice denied. Always.
The jury part of the trial is over, but there are still some issues that are to be decided by the judge. The big one is SCO's claim of "specific performance." Their argument is that if the copyrights didn't transfer (which the jury just said they didnt), that APA2 is a promise to transfer them, so Novell should be forced to transfer them now. If the judge rules against SCO, it's over, barring an appeal that SCO can't afford.
It will be very difficult for SCO to spin this one in a positive direction. Darl McBride isn't at SCO any more, which is a shame. It would have been good to see him go down with the ship.
Roll on the IBM case.
Sean Ellis
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The coverage of record on this story, from the beginning, through the dark days and the brighter days, and on until the very end, has been Groklaw. I highly recommend taking a look there for more commentary.
I mean, their livers are probably shot, but I have to believe that there are other organs worth harvesting from the board of directors and the legal firm representing them.
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
Microsoft got good mileage out of SCO in their attack on Linux. Wonder who will do their bidding next?
There are several important ruling that need to occur. There is still at issue a decision of "Specific Performance", where SCO has made an argument that if the Jury says the APA + admendments did not constitute an official transfer of copyrights, that Novell should be required to create such a document to transfer the copyrights since they are "needed".
Unfortunately for SCO's theory on this, old SCO didn't need the copyrights for their business, which is what was sold to new SCO, and Darl himself testified that the business can be run without the copyrights (statements he made after the FIRST time Novell was told they owned the copyrights by the previous Judge in this case). The wording is also to the effect of "copyrights needed at the time of this APA", which is BEFORE the SCOSource business was conceived to sue Linux users. And then you also have to deal with the fact that "Specific Performance" is only enforced when the party requesting "Specific Performance" has itself performed to the letter of the contract, which there is already case law and verdict on file that SCO has not done so, by not remitting the portion of the license buy-out from Sun and the SCOSource license to Microsoft which were both found to be SYSV Unix licenses, not solely UnixWare licenses (as SCO would change their story afterwards when realizing they were contractually required to remit 95% of the funding SYSV licenses to Novell and not keep it for themselves, and after they have filed to the SCC that they were Unix licenses not UnixWare... one of the stumbling blocks they hit when trying to claim otherwise later).
We were all warned a long time ago that MS products sucked, remember the Magic 8 Ball said, "Outlook not so good"
Are there specific claims? Like can Novell/SCO/DogNextDoor be persuaded to reveal exactly what is in any way questionable about these Unix copyrights "in" Linux? It would be nice to have a list: so they can all be written out.
Shh.
No doubt this is the last we will ever hear of any of this.
What are you doing? Trying out lines for cheesy movie dialog?
[Novell stands over the fallen body of SCO]
Novell: No doubt this is the last we will ever hear of any of this. Come on everybody, let's go home
[As Novell turns and walks off, the hand of SCO twitches slightly and we hear a sinister laugh.]
[Cut to credits]
Summation 2
How many times have we pronounced the SCO lawsuits dead? I think its more times than Freddy Krugger has been brought back to life. I think Freddy said it best to Jason: "Why won't you die?"
"No doubt this is the last we will ever hear of any of this."
This is the SECOND time in the past week you've made me snort coffee!
"People who do stupid things with hazardous materials often die." -- Jim Davidson on alt.folklore.urban
its a trick.... Get an axe!
This has been a Microsoft smear campaign again Linux all along, and it's not over. Why do you think that MS has been funding the entire thing?
' The former federal judge overseeing The SCO Group's bankruptcy said a jury decision today that Novell Inc., and not SCO, owns the copyrights to the Unix computer operating system does not end the company's litigation against others.
Former U.S. District Judge Edward Cahn, the trustee for SCO's bankruptcy filed in Delaware, said the company is "deeply disappointed" in the jury's verdict in the dispute over which company owned the copyrights to Unix, which is widely used in business computing.
But Cahn said SCO intends to continue its lawsuit against IBM, in which the computer giant is accused of using Unix code to make the Linux operating system a viable competitor, causing a decline in SCO's revenues.
"The copyright claims are gone, but we have other claims based on contracts," Cahn said. '
So, a victory, but not quite the end. Still, my money's on IBM...
And there was much rejoicing!
No! You must kill it! Kill It With FIRE!!!
Shoes for Industry. Shoes for the Dead.
From TFS: "No doubt this is the last we will ever hear of any of this."
ORLY?
This is a great day for open sourcE! Get the beer and python, and lets play roguelikes deep into the night....
"Cahn said SCO intends to continue its lawsuit against IBM"
All the Linux-related claims were dismissed years ago.
Warning: this article may contain humor, sarcasm, parody, and perhaps even irony. Read at your own risk.
Keep in mind that USL vs BSDI settlement (secret and first published on GROKLAW), did not give the IP or copyrights for all of Unix to USL (USL was owned by Novell at the time of the settlement). The settlement when made public showed us that indeed much of Unix was not proprietary at all. So, it is no wonder that Novell didn't transfer to Santa Cruz Operations, as they didn't have all the marbles to transfer, so they didn't want everyone to know this, so they didn't transfer any (otherwise, then they would have to let the world know about the USL vs BSDI settlement (and everyone then would stop paying any money to Novell or any UNIX tax collector)... when BSD was free !
So - saying that Novell has all the IP marbles in the Unix world, and that Novell OWNS the Unix copyrights (all of them), is not exactly correct.
Thanks for making my afternoon!
You forgot Slashdot dupes!
Technically, it was two sentence fragments.
The moment the defense points out that SCO knowingly added the code into Linux and distributed it under the GPL the trial should be over.
Right?
I don't know the meaning of the word 'don't' - J
http://www.linux.org/news/2004/03/12/0006.html
I've only been waiting six years to post this.
' The former federal judge overseeing The SCO Group's bankruptcy said a jury decision today that Novell Inc., and not SCO, owns the copyrights to the Unix computer operating system does not end the company's litigation against others.
Former U.S. District Judge Edward Cahn, the trustee for SCO's bankruptcy filed in Delaware, said the company is "deeply disappointed" in the jury's verdict in the dispute over which company owned the copyrights to Unix, which is widely used in business computing.
But Cahn said SCO intends to continue its lawsuit against IBM, in which the computer giant is accused of using Unix code to make the Linux operating system a viable competitor, causing a decline in SCO's revenues.
"The copyright claims are gone, but we have other claims based on contracts," Cahn said. '
So, a victory, but not quite the end. Still, my money's on IBM...
CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHN!!!!
Fuck PJ. She's a publicity whore no better than Darl. Shameless publicity whore. She profited in a grand way from this too-doo. Point. Of. Fact.
And "who is PJ"? Just some Small Town Paralegal *that just happened to be interested in Linux*? - YEAH RIGHT. I got a bridge.
Reasonable people understand that PJ works for IBM. Reasonable people understand that there is no "PJ", that IBM spun up a screen name and went to town.
Even if your claims about PJ were true (and I do say if) what difference would it make? Why do you care? Why are you so angry?
Can you point out anything that PJ posted that is not true, or not fair?
Cahn has never heard of the Nazgul?
"The ferrets, they're every where I tell you!"
What does linux (lowercase 'L') have to do with Unix (capital 'U')?
April Fools' Day
(Posting twice isn't)
While IBM has contributed considerably to Linux, this claim seems to be that without IBM, Linux wouldn't have been a competitor is absurd.
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
position? Maybe not now, maybe not in a few years, but you never know what happens or who buys what company..
Hopefully by then software patents will be invalidated.
Falcon
Should there be a Law?
Ah, shaddap and be happy for once. You can go back to playing prophet-of-doom tomorrow :D
Don't let THEM immanentize the Eschaton!
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=scoxq.pk
Ouch! from .46 down to .10. While 36 cents might not sound like much, it's an 80% drop in value.
Do you have ESP?
That's what we've been asking SCO for the past 7 years.
No thanks. I'll stick with Charmin.
The case is not yet over
There are a number of other parts of the SCO v Novell issue that were not part of the jury trial.
Among other things, this includes a bench (judge) trial on SCO's alternate claim for specific purpose (which asks the court to order Novell to transfer the copyrights).
In short - it
It wont be microsoft...too many antitrust issues.
It might be IBM...it fits their business profile and it might be just up IBM's thinking to open source
unix itself. It would be a major tax write-off (what is the multi-year value of the unix copyright?)
Of course theres always google, owning the unix code would give it some nice defensive ground.
Groklaw's input:
'It's over. The jury has found that the copyrights did not go to SCO under the APA or anything else. The verdict is in. Novell has the news up on their website already, but I heard it from Chris Brown also. Here's the brief Novell statement:
"Today, the jury in the District Court of Utah trial between SCO Group and Novell issued a verdict.
Novell is very pleased with the jury’s decision confirming Novell’s ownership of the Unix copyrights, which SCO had asserted to own in its attack on Linux. Novell remains committed to promoting Linux, including by defending Linux on the intellectual property front.
This decision is good news for Novell, for Linux, and for the open source community." '
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100330152829622
Uh, Linux geek since 1999.
"No doubt this is the last we will ever hear of any of this."
You made coffee squirt out my nose!
I've just bought OpenSUSE dvd from Novell's website - as a way to say "Thank you!"...
While it may hold true for quick-change artists, it won't stop true sociopaths like Darl McBride.
Scammers like McBride believe that everyone is as evil as they are, and that if someone else failed, that they just weren't smart enough. Their rationale goes something like "I can see what they did wrong, so therefore I'm smarter than they are, so *my* scam will succeed!"
Just like career criminals - fines, prison sentences etc. don't act as a deterrent - they do it because they don't believe they'll be caught.
To this day, Darl believes that IBM is guilty of *something* - and that he only failed because IBM played dirty (see this troll for the "dirty tricks" that IBM used.) The dirty tricks that Darl himself used? (Lies, threats, the entire lawsuit) He believes they were justified because he needed something to fight IBM with.
There is nothing that will stop a sociopath from being a sociopath. If there was, they wouldn't be sociopaths.
Financed by Microsoft, with Miguel as chief witness.
All your Linux are belong to us!
It is my opinion that M$ did not loose.
Because for seven years, M$ by funding SCO, for the small (to them) amount M$ paid to SCO, was able to keep FUD going. ...And even if a tiny waste of IBM money and attention, was still one of the 'a thousand cuts' on their quest of:
if(!M$)dieDieDie();
Uh, Linux geek since 1999.
Dude, I do believe you just broke the code!
Don't let THEM immanentize the Eschaton!
There is a bit of legal ground where one entity can strip away the veil of limited liability of a company and go after the officers. It's referred to as the Lanham Act. When officer's of a company do things that are heinous and or illegal under the veil of limited liability in the name of a corporation this act can strip away that protection and go after the people and all their possesions. Pushing them into bankruptcy and taking it almost all. It isn't over yet. you wait and see. They may be very old when it's all over. But a few of them might live to see jail time, and bankruptcy and the lose of their chalet in France.
This has been a Microsoft smear campaign again Linux all along, and it's not over. Why do you think that MS has been funding the entire thing?
is there any real truth to this,or is this MS bashing and speculation?
Happy happy joy joy happy happy joy!
HAPPY!
Happy happy joy joy happy happy joy!
HAPPY!
*Finds a grave for SCO*
*Erects a dance floor*
*Breakdances to the point of passing out from the exertions*
*Returns every once in a while for a return engagement*
HAAA-HAAA!
Hot? Cold? Revenge is a dish best SERVED!
Chas - The one, the only.
THANK GOD!!!
All the horror movie jokes aside. SCO is on the losing side of proving they even own the Unix rights, which *might* by some legal trickery and well placed campaign funds only allow them to sue IBM & all for (c) violation. That trial would then have to prove the stealing of code, which has already been debated in court to SCOs detriment. The court cases might go on one way or another, but any "linux liability scare factor" has long since disappeared from any reasonably savvy IT-Manager's mind. But far be it from me to deny the jokes and gloating people derive from any SCO related lawreports, knock yourselves out.
I expect that those people who were dumb enough to buy Linux "licenses" from SCO and Microsoft must be feeling like complete idiots about now (possibly because they are).
Just wonder when the first lawsuits against SCO and Microsoft will begin? Actually, suing SCO is a waste of time, they are effectively bankrupt, but Microsoft has a nice stash of cash available.
...that even a lay-person jury could see that SCO's case was worthless. I'm a lawyer, and I'm here to state the obvious: juries take longer than 8 hours to decide many petty theft cases. Trustee Cahn, who is effectively running SCO, needs to wake up and smell SCO's dead feet. SCO is dead, dead, dead I say!
1) The 1994 Sun-Novell license agreement prohibited Sun from disclosing SRVX code for a period of 20 years. It's not 2014 yet.
2) The jury just said Novell retained copyright to Unix, so SCO had no title to SVRX, and so no power to license SVRX except as provided in the Novell-SCO APA.
3) Under the APA, SCO "shall not, and shall not have the authority to, amend, modify, or waive any right under or assign any SVRX License without the prior written consent" of Novell.
As a result, SCO neither had the contractual right (under the APA) nor right of title in SVRX necessary to license the release of any SVRX code by Sun prior to 2014. If there is any SVRX in OpenSolaris, then, Oracle is in violation of its SVRX license agreement with Novell, and its right to distribute Solaris (assuming Solaris contains any SVRX) is, as a result, questionable.
Now, yes, the 2003 SCO-Sun agreement requires that SCO indemnify Sun against any claims arising under the agreement . . . but SCO is too bankrupt for that indemnity to have much value.
A bullet.
When the dupe appears two days from now, April 1, it'll be much more appropriate where it says "This is the last we'll hear of SCO."
Turn on the Fox channel and watch O'Reilly whine on and on about Obama winning the election. Now picture SCO. The wailing and gnashing of teeth has just begun.
cue keyboard cat!!!
Follow The Money Mike Anderer March 2004
An e-mail from consultant Mike Anderer to SCO's Chris Sontag revealing Microsoft's channeling of US$ 86 million to SCO.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Halloween_documents_leak
On Monday, court documents from the ongoing court case between IBM and SCO claimed Microsoft had encouraged financial firm BayStar to invest in SCO. The claim was made by BayStar founder Larry Goldfarb, who said Microsoft's vice president of corporate development and strategy, Richard Emerson, had offered to underwrite BayStar's own investment in SCO.
http://www.zdnet.com.au/more-microsoft-sco-links-emerge-339271604.htm
Has Microsoft's money been a significant resource for the financially ailing SCO?
Without a doubt. In early 2003, Microsoft started paying SCO what eventually grew to $16.6 million for a Unix license, according to regulatory filings. Only longtime Unix fan Sun Microsystems previously paid close to that, with a $9.3 million license deal.
Microsoft provided a second, though indirect, boost in August or September of 2003, when it referred SCO to BayStar Capital, a fund that arranged a $50 million investment.
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-139743.html
There is a lot more evidence, but I will leave further research up to you.
Scox's lawsuit against IBM is based on scox's claim that ibm violated scox's UNIX/Linux copyrights, because ibm contributed to linux. Scox claims that they own UNIX (there exact words - repeated many times) and by extension, scox claims they own Linux, because UNIX code is in Linux. After more than seven years, scox still refuses to provide any evidence to back their claims.
But, scox is still suing ibm over linux. So, yes it is a linux story.
Orly Tates will be suing Novell shortly demanding the birth certificate of UNIX
Sorry about the writing. Robot fingers, you know? Cliff Steele in DOOM PATROL #23
except that's not a triangle, because triangles are planar objects. Planes can intersect spheres, but that doesn't somehow mean that the plane is 3d all the sudden.
It's difficult to prove a negative, but it's not impossible. You merely prove it by eliminating the possibility that it is true - leaving only the possibility that it is false.
Would you suggest it's impossible for me to prove that a full-grown african elephant is not eating bananas in my pantry right now? That's silly - I merely prove that the size of such an elephant is larger than the size of my pantry, thus eliminating the possibility that it is true. You've confused yourself if you think it's any more impossible to prove a negative than it is to prove a positive; prove there's an african elephant anywhere in africa right now?
Even if the judge doesn't force a transfer, Cahn has said they'll still continue the IBM suit on contract grounds. SCO's arrangement with its lawyers can keep this going (as well as an appeal) even if they're broke. This definitely has a ways to go, alas...
Their financials are just too funny:
Financials
EPS forecast (this quarter) --
Annual revenue (last year) $15.6M
Annual profit (last year) -$8.7M
Net profit margin -55.80%
Now, granted, I'm not an economics major, but a "net profit of -55%" sounds kind of like a "loss" to me. And an annual profit of "-8.7 million" sounds a bit shaky too. Maybe it's time to buy some SCO stock for use as toilet paper and drink coasters. At 10 cents a whack it could be fun, but don't hurry- I'm guessing in a day or so it'll be on the order of a penny a share. :)
now that there is little question as to who owns the copyrights to UNIX, will we now see another bid to purchase Novell and said copyrights? Why not Nathan Myhrvold's Intellectual Vultures group which has Bill Gates on is investors list?
the judgment pretty much says that SCO had no leg to stand in claiming Linux infringed on their UNIX copyrights but only in that SCO didn't have the UNIX copyrights. It did not clear up any infringement questions. And you know that right now, Microsoft is out hunting down victims to hang on their Patent Licensing mantel as they start building their case against Linux. What a hammer owning UNIX copyrights would be.
and yes Jane, I do believe that Intellectual Vultures are tied back to MSFT.
LoB
"Anyone who stands out in the middle of a road looks like roadkill to me." --Linus
"The copyright claims are gone, but we have other claims based on contracts," Cahn said.
"it's just a flesh wound!"
"I'm invincible!"
"Come back here and take what's coming to you! I'll bite your legs off!"
Protoplasm. Quiet Protoplasm. I like quiet protoplasm.
NOW can we get on with harvesting SCO's management for organs? We get that with this deal, right?
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
7 or 8 years ago there was a Slashdot story in which questions from Slashdot Users (myself included) were going to be forwarded to SCO and presumably answered. I seem to have missed the story where those questions were answered. Perhaps now would be a good time for a follow up story to that one?
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
What? Are you kidding? Zombies don't die unless you reboot the system. They had a chance at a proper death, but they got past init(cleanup) and now they will remain in the system process stack holding onto enough memory to hold the return code (and possibly a whole stack frame --enough to hold a complete context switch including all registers including the program counter). SCO can't die now. Its a zombie. Chainsaws can chop it into little pieces. but unless all the pieces get stuck into concrete or something, they will keep coming after you.
That's what we thought the last twenty times the case has been in the headlines...
"No doubt this is the last we will ever hear of any of this."
You fool! You've doomed us all!
Is Edward Cahn another Ken Starr?
I have finally found my inner-peace.
I held back on paying SCO for licensing since I've been using a Linux desktop for a while on my personal desktop. I couldn't stand it anymore - sleepless nights, the shakes, sweating, and I took up smoking and booze. I was about to rip out the credit card today after work and pay them. Good thing I read Slashdot first!
Yeah baby.. Now it's Microsoft's turn..
That's funny as hell!
For justice, we must go to Don Corleone
Darl is no longer associated with SCO, and he has no axe to grind: his options are worthless and have been for a while.
OTOH, there is the invisible Ralph Yarro, majority stockholder and now priority creditor. And there is also Judge Cahn, the Trustee appointed by the bankruptcy court. Yarro has supplied cash, and Cahn seems to have drunk the kool-aid.
Immediately after the verdict, Cahn announced that SCO will go forward with the IBM case. SCO may not have standing to sue for infringement, but they do have contract claims.
And then there's the UnitedLinux arbiration....
You can't take the sky from me!
Don't forget to pay your $699 licensing fee, you cock-smoking teabaggers!
Judge Kimball split that bit off from the rest of the case since by the contract the matter is subject to arbitration. The arbitration was stayed by the Bankruptcy Court (it had been scheduled to run in parallel with the jury trial in Utah), but can now go forward.
In fact, the stuff of most interest to Linux users is still to come! The bulk of Novell was about copyrights and SCO-as-fiduciary. Without evidence of infringement, these are directly of interest to Linux users. But the GPL is about to get a hearing. That is of considerable interest!
You can't take the sky from me!
The point was never to win. The point was to keep people from buying software and services from Novell, Red Hat and IBM. That strategy worked very well for seven years...
He will.
Its about time.
I run: Windows, OS X, Linux, FreeBSD. Just because you have a hammer, doesn't mean everything is a nail.
Help stamp out iliturcy.
See subject.
...and they're still trying to sell "SCO Source". http://www.sco.com/scosource/license_program.html
Anyone feel up to cutting them a check?
This is not a greek tragedy - it's a cheesy cliffhanger serial that has the hero facing near certain death at every turn. It won't end until advertisers won't buy time on the reruns.
Help stamp out iliturcy.
Dear Taco,
Thank you for your commentary. I laughed out loud. That was nice. Then I thought (probably Taco), and checked -- there you were. A part of slashdot will die forever when Darl ends his campaign.
Law of Agency - wikipedia etc and everywhere else since business law has existed in the modern world, says, that if you let someone appear to be your agent, and you do nothing at the time to "stop their acting as your agent" then, you as the principle, need sometimes (case by case, maybe judge or jury will decide, based on the state, and merits of the case)... you will sometimes have to live by the actions of an apparent agent (and so). So, maybe Novell will have to live with the SCO and SUN deal.... as at least SCO did have the right to make deals (even if they needed to be approved by Novell). In some cases, and maybe this one... it appears that Sun or rather Oracle will be able to keep OpenSolaris cooking like it is now. The best thing to do if this were to go to court would be to have Novell and Oracle agree to GPLv3 OpenSolaris.... and one-up Linux on the FOSS scale. Now that would be really interesting. Of course, Microsoft would hate that with a passion.
What a great present! Now I have to get drunk.
I prefer Classic Slashdot.
No doubt they will be back.
SCO is like the Daleks in Dr Who or Blowfeld in James Bond
like Freddy Kruger or Jason or the terminator.
you cant KILL true evil
As Churchill said: Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning
A triangle has THREE ANGLES. It's even in the fricking name.
Please tell me that Cahn's name is pronounced the way I think it is....
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that this case actually reached a verdict before the contested copyrights expired!
I can prove that she exists.
Once I sent her something after emailing her for her address.
After that she sent me a very kind email, a IBM robot never would send ;)
Enjoy!
So we replaced one bad actor -- Darl -- with Cahn who is suppose to be a Trustee who now wants to pick up Darl's tired script book, and seems to be just as brainless as Darl. SCO just got its butt kicked by Novell, and Cahn now wants to pick a fight with IBM and its Nazgul?!? SCO must have a Death Wish, though I suspect that the zombie that is SCO is clinging to life by a hidden transfusion of money from Microsoft: SCO can't pay any of its creditors but somehow it can continue to pursue the litigation lottery. Now it wants to pick a fight with IBM, and IBM has an even better case against SCO than Novell had. I say "Release the Nazgul on SCO!!!"
As long as there is a higher court to appeal to, SCO and its minions will not likely give up. After all, they have litigation investors to answer to. The sunk-cost fallacy is lost on these guys.
SCO - Software Company Out-of-business!
hahaha, fags sure got told!
While my money is on IBM too, you have to wonder if going after IBM is still possible since Novell directed (per contract per APA) that they are to drop everything against IBM, and SCO does not have (AFAIK) a contract directly with IBM outside of Project Montgomery - which long ago proved to be a dead-end road for going after IBM on. So what contracts exactly are they going after? It can't be UNIX related, or related to copyright infringement.
Truth is like the sun. You can shut it out for a time, but it ain't goin' away. - Elvis Presley (source: imdb.com)
Actually you think about it MS is involved with both Novell and SCO.
MS funds both Novel and SCO, Novell is weakened by their fight with SCO (Bolstered by MS) but triumphs with the Unix Licenses in hand. MS now being friends with Novell offers to buy them up and thus acquires the licenses for Unix entirely and probably for 10s of millions less than they would have had to pay otherwise. MS now has the Patents on Unix which might give them something to get licensing from IBM
You poor guy, suckered by those evil stockholders and board members. Now I feel all sorry for you and shit.
Punk ass bitch, you played with the big boys and got beat down hard because you just don't have the skills, the brains, or the common sense to go back to the kiddie pool. You know, after this is all said and done, the criminal charges will come. You'll be spending your days in the pokey, not living it up in Cancun with all the money you and your family embezzled from SCO.
But you are a narcissist, so we can't expect you to understand any of this, as you have no concept of right and wrong. In your own mind, I'm sure you are completely innocent of any wrong doing.
- None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. -- John Milton
Goofy, it's quite clear you have no clue, so be silent Sprocket (you goof).
My god... SCO. The anti-SCO t-shirt I bought years ago is falling apart... that's how old this shit is. An organized Project Mayhem needs to be set in motion to completely wipe these guys out seems like....
"Instant gratification takes too long." - Carrie Fisher
This is absolutely absurd http://www.squidoo.com/womensera