Yea, but we are reaching OSX users with free software. Actually, I got the idea from Helix Code.
lynx -source whatever | csh
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GNU-Darwin is like the Fink, except with ten times more software, and pkg_install/ports instead of apt_get. Use what you like, what you familiar with, what is comfortable, whatever;-}.
In the old days, when we were all users, and the sysadmin was god, I had to learn to install applications in my home tree. Now, I can just untar this thing, and I have semi-automatic access to several thousand free software applications. No more going to the admin to ask(beg) for software installation. You don't need his permission anymore. =}
Yes, it is possible to do this with chroot, plus much bit-twiddling. This time, I did the twiddling, and made a reusable tarball, so that I won't have to fuss with that anymore.
According to the feedback that I have been getting from many GNU-Darwin users, there are still people out there that need this kind of freedom to effectively get things done. I made this thing, because I needed it.
This means that you invoking GNU Make instead of the BSD Make that is
provided with the ports tarball in ~/usr/bin. Make sure that ~/usr/bin
comes before/usr/bin in your $PATH
variable.
NewsForge is running a story about an encryption paper from the GNU-Darwin crew. They interviewed Dr. Love, who says that PGP "could have prevented Nimda worm attacks" that are devastating email servers right now.
"Michael L. Love says the "open-signing" form of encryption that's available with encryption programs such as PGP and GnuPG would keep would-be terrorists from hijacking other people's email to send their messages. Under open signing, the text of the email is open for all to read, but the identify of the sender is authenticated."
There is also some discussion of.NET, and Love says that PGP keyservers could provide an authentication infrastructure to compete with Microsoft in the net services arena. Be sure to see the related Slashdot thread about Microsoft's new authentication proposals.
These are actually pretty good points, although the fact is that I already have a personal boycott against almost every one of these companies. No money for stocks right now. Any other suggestions? I also have a few more suggestions, which are in the following article.
Good point. I don't imagine that hardware companies would care, so long as it didn't hurt their sales.
We have to make it clear that that under this regulation, a computer would be a worthless hunk of junk. It would be useless to industry, researchers, and to home users.
The hardware manufacturers in the industry groups blocked the implementation of CPRM, so the media moguls are taking it to congress in order to force it on the rest of us. Congress has become a tool of tyranny.
The DMCA passed the Congress by a unaminous vote, because those stooges and toolies are voting for their campaign contributors and not the citizens of this nation. Now they are going to give us this?
Let's do something about it. Let's do it fast, and let's do it NOW.
Sorry, All/. readers are clearly not idiots. I came into this thread when the Katz bashers were piling on in the first few posts, and I felt a little outrage. Point taken.
Here is a small sampling to the dumbfounding results of this arrest.
1. Radicalization of America's brightest kids.
2. Wide spread protests against Dmitry's arrest and the DMCA
3. Criminalization of constitutional protect fair use rights.
4. Attack against public libraries.
5. Computer professionals and scientist boycott the US in a vast brain drain of intellectual capital.
6. More tax money wasted on copyright enforcement
7. Black hat backlash.
8. This is only the beginning!
> Are you saying that with ports, there is NEVER a dependency problem?
Yes, that is the correct conclusion, and a fair characterization of the ports. Nothing is perfect but in most cases, much thought has been expended to make sure that all of the dependencies will be automatically satisfied all the time.
> That itself is a problem. 56K modem downloading 75 megabytes of stuff to make the 200k package properly compile?
That problem is alleviated by the fact that the system checks your build table and binary directories before it downloads anything. There are no superfluous downloads with the ports system, and source downloads are typically smaller than package downloads.
The ports system is the only system like it, that does all of this. Other systems may have parts, but the ports system is a comprehensive whole.
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That was hilarious! BTW, I made a stink over curl...
http://darwinfo.org/devlist.php3?number=11712
The first thing the script does is fetch wget with curl. It uses wget for everything after that. BTW, don't worry, we never re-license _any_ code.
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proclus
Don't you think that this is trolling a little?
We know that it doesn't break anything, because we are doing much cool stuff with it. For example,
Researcher brings Open-Source
Software to the
Mac
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I might suggest instead that Mapquest and Amazon are a peice of crap, but that would be quite rude ;-}.
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Yea, but we are reaching OSX users with free software. Actually, I got the idea from Helix Code.
lynx -source whatever | csh
Regards,
proclus
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proclus
GNU-Darwin is free software built on an open source OS. We have thousands of users. Any more questions?
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proclus
Hey man, I wrote that headline, and I'm the founder of GNU-Darwin and a longtime GNU/Linux person. What-the-heck is wrong the headline?
What is GNU/Darwin?
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This means that GNU-Darwin is free software built on an open source platform. What's the problem?
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Try this.
make deinstall
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> make: don't know how to make uninstall. Stop
;-}
You forgot "rm -rf ~/usr".
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proclus
Nice to see that somebody "gets it". Thanks guys.
In the old days, when we were all users, and the sysadmin was god, I had to learn to install applications in my home tree. Now, I can just untar this thing, and I have semi-automatic access to several thousand free software applications. No more going to the admin to ask(beg) for software installation. You don't need his permission anymore. =}
Yes, it is possible to do this with chroot, plus much bit-twiddling. This time, I did the twiddling, and made a reusable tarball, so that I won't have to fuss with that anymore.
According to the feedback that I have been getting from many GNU-Darwin users, there are still people out there that need this kind of freedom to effectively get things done. I made this thing, because I needed it.
Regards,
proclus
Isn't this trolling?
Anyways, if you want to know what GNU-Darwin is trying to do, then just read the mission statement. It's right there on the homepage. Any questions?
Regards,
proclus
This means that you invoking GNU Make instead of the BSD Make that is /usr/bin in your $PATH
provided with the ports tarball in ~/usr/bin. Make sure that ~/usr/bin
comes before
variable.
> OpenPackages is a universal solution. GNU-Darwin is less than universal.
;-}.
Ports = 6000 ready applications
OP = 1 test application
Anything else?
Don't get me wrong, because OP is a great idea. When it is ready, we will merge or pull off some other miracle
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proclus
"Michael L. Love says the "open-signing" form of encryption that's available with encryption programs such as PGP and GnuPG would keep would-be terrorists from hijacking other people's email to send their messages. Under open signing, the text of the email is open for all to read, but the identify of the sender is authenticated."
There is also some discussion of .NET, and Love says that PGP keyservers could provide an authentication infrastructure to compete with Microsoft in the net services arena. Be sure to see the related Slashdot thread about Microsoft's new authentication proposals.
These are actually pretty good points, although the fact is that I already have a personal boycott against almost every one of these companies. No money for stocks right now. Any other suggestions? I also have a few more suggestions, which are in the following article.
EarthHack4777
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proclus
It is also a lie. There are plenty of copyright holders who are upset about the DMCA, and they will be even more upset about this proposed new laws.
Congress is NOT protecting copyright holders. They are protecting the media companies, who are EXPLOITING the copyright holders.
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proclus
Good point. I don't imagine that hardware companies would care, so long as it didn't hurt their sales.
We have to make it clear that that under this regulation, a computer would be a worthless hunk of junk. It would be useless to industry, researchers, and to home users.
Regards,
proclus
Maybe flamebait, but a good idea maybe.
The trouble is that the security for this plan has already been fairly well thought out at that hardware level. Take CPRM for example.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/2/15718.html
The hardware manufacturers in the industry groups blocked the implementation of CPRM, so the media moguls are taking it to congress in order to force it on the rest of us. Congress has become a tool of tyranny.
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proclus
proclus
This is exactly what the SSSCA is about. Do something about it.
proclus
The DMCA passed the Congress by a unaminous vote, because those stooges and toolies are voting for their campaign contributors and not the citizens of this nation. Now they are going to give us this?
Let's do something about it. Let's do it fast, and let's do it NOW.
Regards,
proclus
Sorry, All /. readers are clearly not idiots. I came into this thread when the Katz bashers were piling on in the first few posts, and I felt a little outrage. Point taken.
Regards,
proclus
http://www.gnu-darwin.org/
Here is a small sampling to the dumbfounding results of this arrest.
1. Radicalization of America's brightest kids.
2. Wide spread protests against Dmitry's arrest and the DMCA
3. Criminalization of constitutional protect fair use rights.
4. Attack against public libraries.
5. Computer professionals and scientist boycott the US in a vast brain drain of intellectual capital.
6. More tax money wasted on copyright enforcement
7. Black hat backlash.
8. This is only the beginning!
Regards,
proclus
GNU-Darwin.org
BTW, I'm no hypocrite. Check it out.
Earth Hack 4777
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proclus
http://www.gnu-darwin.org/
> Are you saying that with ports, there is NEVER a dependency problem?
Yes, that is the correct conclusion, and a fair characterization of the ports. Nothing is perfect but in most cases, much thought has been expended to make sure that all of the dependencies will be automatically satisfied all the time.
> That itself is a problem. 56K modem downloading 75 megabytes of stuff to make the 200k package properly compile?
That problem is alleviated by the fact that the system checks your build table and binary directories before it downloads anything. There are no superfluous downloads with the ports system, and source downloads are typically smaller than package downloads.
The ports system is the only system like it, that does all of this. Other systems may have parts, but the ports system is a comprehensive whole.
Regards,
proclus
http://www.gnu-darwin.org/