Well, indeed, but how is that relevant ? The GPL allows you to charge for distribution also. The only thing you're not allowed to do is charge an unreasonable amount for the source code.
Actually, I did, it seemed to be something along the lines of "I would recognise Tridge's work in supplanting Microsoft's Windows operating system with a free replacement, but not his work supplanting BitKeeper with a free replacement".
Because, yeah, the "community" was friends with Bitkeeper and we somehow are anti-commercial because they withdrew their free licensing deal. Or something. I don't even get your point.
Look at the history of who they've awarded it to. You can't call the likes of Larry Wall 'political'.
To say that Tridge got the award because the FSF wanted to recognise his "role" in getting rid of Bitkeeper is offensive, in my opinion - that's basically writing off all the other contributions he's made to the free software community merely to have a go at the FSF. I would like to hear people's suggestions of someone *more* worthy to win than Tridge - I can't think of anyone off the top of my head.
I think you have to hack it to get it to work multisite? Also, the URLs are pretty horrible.
That's not to say stuff like PRADO is any good either - I used it for a commercial site, and it's a pain to maintain. It's an ASP-style component system, and doesn't fit the web model - if you want to do 'Ajax', for example, you're screwed.
symfony looks interesting, though, and much more lightweight.
They stopped publishing their wordprocessor's XML file format because it was getting nutty, and they refuse to support OpenDocument so far. It seems that they're just not very good at the whole 'XML' thing.
It's a shame, because the original XML format they had for the wordprocessor was apparently pretty reasonable. Maybe they lost their XML experts or something.
I agree that not having a good enough education and/or experience with computers would disadvantage you trying to get into the IT industry. But, at the end of the day, I'm not really sure if that's any better: direct discrimination within IT would probably be easier to "fix", but if certian ethnic groups are disproportionately poor it's still discrimination - it's just that their inability to get into IT is a symptom of a wider problem.
Yes, poverty does affect a spectrum of people. Because it affects people of all ethinicity doesn't mean that certain ethnic groups are discriminated against, though.
Given that this piece says that variation within groups is greater than variation between them, even if we accept that it's true (which I'm not particularly convinced it is), what does it tell us about opportunities in IT?
The majority of that article is talking about the extremes of a bell-curve - that, for example, gifted males are mostly responsible for major achievements in arts and science. Even if it is right, I would put forward that it tells us nothing about the vast majority of the average people in average jobs. I don't believe you need to be particularly gifted to work in IT, and I refuse to believe that anyone female/coloured/anything else is measurably less capable of anything I could do.
The better question is- more than a century after the end of slavery, 50 years after segregation ended, why do people still ask this?
Well, why do people still ask about women getting into IT? Because representative numbers of that type of person just aren't around.
Put it the other way: if people are looking around for developers other than white, and not finding many, doesn't that strike you as odd? Don't you want to know why it is, given we're in this "colour-blind" age? If there were any grouping that wasn't being represented - be it black, gay, female, muslim, whatever - wouldn't it make you furious to find out that they weren't getting the same opportunities as you?!
It does matter, but doesn't have any particular implication for how their work should be viewed.
We know that colour of skin doesn't make a jot of difference to how intelligent you are, or how apt you are to coding, or to how your mind works. We also know roughly what proportions of the population have what colour skin (and gender, and all sorts of other things). Given IT is such a thoroughly white-male-dominated industry, it causes people to ask why.
There may be valid reasons; for similar reasons Muslims generally do not work in butchers or money lending firms - not because they are discriminated against, but culturally they don't accept those jobs.
But, if there are no valid reasons, then the only thing left pretty much is discrimination.
I'm not sure to what extend various ethnic groups are discriminated against in IT, but given the huge discrimination against women in this industry it wouldn't surprise me at all if many groups didn't get the same opportunities that I got.
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Nothing in the GPLv3 is remotely decided. People keep throwing ideas out there to see which fly, some may, most won't.
That's not quite true; the close button doesn't save a thing. Your preferences instant-apply - what you're really asking for is a 'Reset this to how it was' button.
Errr, yes. Just because they said one thing to you doesn't mean that's actually the truth.
Go look at the patent they gave ARM under *the current rules* - they've allowed ARM to patent C pointers (yes, void *ptr) when used to emulate register sets in CPU emulators.
The UKPO is full-on for software patenting, and the fact that you think otherwise means you've bought into their hype. Go look at what they actually *do*, not what they say.
It's not a contradiction. Filtration would be bias by censorship; the parent is merely suggesting bias.
That could happen, for example, because all the contributors have a particular political viewpoint, or have only limited interest in certain topics. Bias can happen for many reasons; "filtration" isn't the only one and hence there is no contradiction.
I suspect Alan is fairly au fait with the GPL - you're missing his point.
The GPL says: "[..] if a patent license would not permit royalty-free redistribution of the Program by all those who receive copies [..] through you, then the only way you could satisfy both it and this License would be to refrain entirely from distribution of the Program."
Nokia has to licence its patents, or people who receive the software through it are unable to redistribute that software. That would not satisfy the GPL, hence, they would not be able to distribute the software.
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He said "featured articles", not "articles".
You can, so long as it's the original. If you modify the software, you have to rebuild it without the branding, unless you have MoFo's permission.
Actually, Firefox came after that period of lotus-eating Orlowski describes.
I'm not sure there's much to disagree with in his analysis.
It's not total crap; look it up in your highway code - there is such a thing, for example, as a three-lane dual-carriageway.
You're right in what people colloquially refer to, though.
Never mind statistics, lessons in addition clearly required!
Many places in the "first world" don't have reliable healthcare.
Actually, I did, it seemed to be something along the lines of "I would recognise Tridge's work in supplanting Microsoft's Windows operating system with a free replacement, but not his work supplanting BitKeeper with a free replacement".
Because, yeah, the "community" was friends with Bitkeeper and we somehow are anti-commercial because they withdrew their free licensing deal. Or something. I don't even get your point.
There's no possible chance that you'd predecided what you thought of this, were you?
So go on, tell us why Tridge shouldn't have won the award.
Look at the history of who they've awarded it to. You can't call the likes of Larry Wall 'political'.
To say that Tridge got the award because the FSF wanted to recognise his "role" in getting rid of Bitkeeper is offensive, in my opinion - that's basically writing off all the other contributions he's made to the free software community merely to have a go at the FSF. I would like to hear people's suggestions of someone *more* worthy to win than Tridge - I can't think of anyone off the top of my head.
I think you have to hack it to get it to work multisite? Also, the URLs are pretty horrible.
That's not to say stuff like PRADO is any good either - I used it for a commercial site, and it's a pain to maintain. It's an ASP-style component system, and doesn't fit the web model - if you want to do 'Ajax', for example, you're screwed.
symfony looks interesting, though, and much more lightweight.
They stopped publishing their wordprocessor's XML file format because it was getting nutty, and they refuse to support OpenDocument so far. It seems that they're just not very good at the whole 'XML' thing.
It's a shame, because the original XML format they had for the wordprocessor was apparently pretty reasonable. Maybe they lost their XML experts or something.
I agree that not having a good enough education and/or experience with computers would disadvantage you trying to get into the IT industry. But, at the end of the day, I'm not really sure if that's any better: direct discrimination within IT would probably be easier to "fix", but if certian ethnic groups are disproportionately poor it's still discrimination - it's just that their inability to get into IT is a symptom of a wider problem.
Yes, poverty does affect a spectrum of people. Because it affects people of all ethinicity doesn't mean that certain ethnic groups are discriminated against, though.
Given that this piece says that variation within groups is greater than variation between them, even if we accept that it's true (which I'm not particularly convinced it is), what does it tell us about opportunities in IT?
The majority of that article is talking about the extremes of a bell-curve - that, for example, gifted males are mostly responsible for major achievements in arts and science. Even if it is right, I would put forward that it tells us nothing about the vast majority of the average people in average jobs. I don't believe you need to be particularly gifted to work in IT, and I refuse to believe that anyone female/coloured/anything else is measurably less capable of anything I could do.
You're seriously suggesting that the colour of your skin affects how interested in IT you are? Seriously?
Well, why do people still ask about women getting into IT? Because representative numbers of that type of person just aren't around.
Put it the other way: if people are looking around for developers other than white, and not finding many, doesn't that strike you as odd? Don't you want to know why it is, given we're in this "colour-blind" age? If there were any grouping that wasn't being represented - be it black, gay, female, muslim, whatever - wouldn't it make you furious to find out that they weren't getting the same opportunities as you?!
It does matter, but doesn't have any particular implication for how their work should be viewed.
We know that colour of skin doesn't make a jot of difference to how intelligent you are, or how apt you are to coding, or to how your mind works. We also know roughly what proportions of the population have what colour skin (and gender, and all sorts of other things). Given IT is such a thoroughly white-male-dominated industry, it causes people to ask why.
There may be valid reasons; for similar reasons Muslims generally do not work in butchers or money lending firms - not because they are discriminated against, but culturally they don't accept those jobs.
But, if there are no valid reasons, then the only thing left pretty much is discrimination.
I'm not sure to what extend various ethnic groups are discriminated against in IT, but given the huge discrimination against women in this industry it wouldn't surprise me at all if many groups didn't get the same opportunities that I got.
Nothing in the GPLv3 is remotely decided. People keep throwing ideas out there to see which fly, some may, most won't.
That's not quite true; the close button doesn't save a thing. Your preferences instant-apply - what you're really asking for is a 'Reset this to how it was' button.
Really? I would have thought that some people berating other people's voting intentions was what was wrong with democracy.
That's clearly not the case with you, though. You know exactly how other people should vote, and if they don't vote that way, they're wrong.
Uhuh.
Errr, yes. Just because they said one thing to you doesn't mean that's actually the truth.
Go look at the patent they gave ARM under *the current rules* - they've allowed ARM to patent C pointers (yes, void *ptr) when used to emulate register sets in CPU emulators.
The UKPO is full-on for software patenting, and the fact that you think otherwise means you've bought into their hype. Go look at what they actually *do*, not what they say.
It's not a contradiction. Filtration would be bias by censorship; the parent is merely suggesting bias.
That could happen, for example, because all the contributors have a particular political viewpoint, or have only limited interest in certain topics. Bias can happen for many reasons; "filtration" isn't the only one and hence there is no contradiction.
> Actually, it does, simply because the GPL does not > say anything about patents at all
Er, yes it does.
Have you actually read the GPL?
I suspect Alan is fairly au fait with the GPL - you're missing his point.
The GPL says: "[..] if a patent license would not permit royalty-free redistribution of the Program by all those who receive copies [..] through you, then the only way you could satisfy both it and this License would be to refrain entirely from distribution of the Program."
Nokia has to licence its patents, or people who receive the software through it are unable to redistribute that software. That would not satisfy the GPL, hence, they would not be able to distribute the software.
Acid2 isn't meant to be valid.
CSS parsers are designed to degrade when they come across things they don't recognise; that's what it's testing.