Let's not joke around. Microsoft saw Netscape as a threat. The ability to run applications in a web browser decreased the value of the MS Operating Sytstems. Below are key points:
Microsoft bundled a web browser with it's OS. No, MS didn't just bundle some components. It included a complete software application w/ it's OS.
> KDE would have exactly this flaw if the
> Konquerer component had this flaw and an e-mail
> reader used the component.
What is the point of that statement? A would have this flaw if A had this flaw? Well.. yeah. But the point is it doesn't. And even if it did. You have the source. Even more important, you have choice. GNOME? KDE? WIN32?
This isn't idiotic MS bashing. MS is building us a world where we have no choice but to have security flaws.
Ugh.. I'll stop MS bashing when MS stops taking advantage of me and other consumers.
For those of you in the Bay Area there is a great bar in San Francisco called POW!. This is a small hangout, that still hasn't been completely overridden by the dot-com black leather jacket hipsters yet. It's got great atmosphere, several Playstation 2 consoles, and a Dreamcast. In addition, they play anime and 80s cartoons on a large screen in the back, and they have great drinks. It's in a fairly seedy section of town (6th street) but it's great. Tonight they're having their full moon party, so if anyone is interested, come on down!
It's a great jumping off point if you're clubbing down in SOMA, or you can stay all night. Good restuarants near by, such as Tu Lan (Vietnamese), Original Joe's (Italian), and Taqueria Can Cun (mexican). Just a great fucking place to put it simply.
Oh yeah, it's on the corner of 6th street and Mission street.
You're right.. in SF here the leather jacket crowd seems to have them attached to their heads. I carry a cell phone with me too. I keep the volume down, and if I do get a call, I try to find a dark corner, or tell the caller that I'll call them back. I'm hoping we can solve this by making it a strong norm to use vibrating modes, headphone alerts, or other non-intrusive methods. We must socialize these people to respect others because it's right, not because they have no other choice.
Just because cell phones currently annoy people, doesn't mean they always will. I think ANY method of limiting communications is stupid and counter to civilization. I wholeheartedly agree that many people talk on cell phones today for the wrong reasons (status and image) but I see them as eventually becoming ubiquitous devices that will be used by almost everyone. Jammers only destroy, we want things that can create and facilitate creation here in our world.
Woah there. San Francisco, which is just north of San Jose, has a great city life. Every day this week I've gone out and done something (now that I got laid off in the great crash of 2001 I have some free time again!) It's a great city to party in, to meet people, and just have fun. And Detroit is a good place to go if you like the city life too. I used to live in MI, and about once a month, would drive down from Mt. Pleasant or Saginaw to party in Detroit.
I think both CA and MI have their strong points and weak points. But the truth is, I think there's something about the artistic minded/rebellious SF/Berkeley that fuels the startup mindset. As Dave Eggers put it, everyone had some dumb idea, and no one there would tell you yours was doomed. Ann Arbor has something like this, but is it enough?
Saginaw (north of Flint) has shitty roads. The entire tri-city area does. MI is a great state. Beautiful, but it relied too much on the automotive industry, and that was it's economic downfall. I think Engler is getting desperate. I remember hearing about the whole "Automation Alley", the supposed counterpart to Silicon Valley, at school in MI. Essentially just support industries for the automotive industry.
In response to this, I've created a little GNOME applet that queries http://www.caiso.com/SystemStatus.html every few minutes and updates a little graph showing current power usage in CA. It's nifty!! Download it here:
Powerload
Yo, you fucking trippin' My boy Larry knows what's up. See, his highrolling ass is spending mad scratch. That autonomous expenditurez is having wack effects on the GNP. That because of this here Multiplier Effex. Mo demand mean straight up mo supply.
All you playa-haters be hatin on my boy Larry, when he be helping yo bitch ass!! He even helping those broke ass crack hos that be starving to death.
I live in San Francisco. I just moved here about 3 months ago from Michigan. I live right in the city, in SoMa. My rent is $875 a month, which, although higher than most areas, is much cheaper then the $1600-$2000 range most people quoting. If you live in a trendy area, or look in the wrong places, you're going to get crazy prices. You just have to be persistant, and you will find cheap places. I love it here. I'm withing short walking distance of work, and I am close to some great food and entertainment. Like the bar, POW! Which is just down the street from me.
It's a great place.. and yes the MBAs who are flooding here I want to kick in the face.. but there's lots of cool geeks too.
Josh
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Overwhelmingly white??? Has this guy ever been in a computer science program, or seen programmers? Drinking and screwing? I don't know what to say. I wish?
Well, I'm not the biggest fan of rap, but considering Dre's recent actions, I just had to download his new album now. Loaded up Gnutella.. searched for Dr. Dre 2001, and boom. In less than 4 minutes I had downloaded the entire album. It's a beautiful thing. A bit childish yes, but so is blocking all files that have a certain checksum on them.
Now here's an interesting question though. I have a copy of it. I have not listened to it at all. What are the moral implications of that? To my computer, it's just a collection of arbitrary bits. Metallica certainly wouldn't have a problem with me lending a CD out to a friend, would they? What about if I ripped the CD, then destroyed it. Could I enjoy it on my computer? Now what if I didn't listen to it, but e-mailed it to my friend Bob? Suppose I keep one song, and e-mail one song to each of my friends? According to copyright law, I believe we can make backup copies, correct?
Yeah, I could have read up on copyright law and answered these questions myself, but what I'm more concerned with is ethics, what is right and wrong, not necessarily what works for the lawyers.
Unfortunately with standard bodies, you get way too much politiking. This company wants something implemented this way. This company wants something implemented that way. The group decides to implement it as a combination of both ways, which is ACTUALLY worse than either method alone. Let's look at a heavily standard influenced language. ADA, need I say more? Argh, nice ideas, but try writing a compiler for it. Sometimes simpler is better.
I can't wait until they start producing general purpose HUDs for cars. Imagine the possibilities! HUD skins... plugin in a Star Wars skin, and it turns the other cars into pod racers! Use the BattleTank plugin, and get classic 3d wireframe cars! Use the web browser and get in a life threatening accident! Fun.
It's about time we had another good slap upside the head. We're getting full of ourselves lately. First we were the center of the solar system, then we were "images" of God.
Now if computers show us up in Intelligence, we'll be a bit more humble. The world needs more humble people.
Of course those who say it will never happen. Computers can't be "intelligent." Ask yourselves this. What is intelligence? Chances are your answer is a behavioral one, in which case, anything that shows intelligent behavior is therefore intelligent (ala Turing).
Sitting next to your child every minute may be preposterous, but there's a better solution. Raising them to know what is "good" and "bad". Or raising them to realize the difference between reality and television. It may be too much to babysit their TV time, but having discussions with them at dinner about what they watched isn't that preposterous.
The v-chip isn't about this. It's like security through obscurity. They assume that by removing "bad" elements, we can raise "good" children. How about this, pointing out "bad" elements and introducing them as such?
This isn't about the cable system deciding what does and doesn't get broadcast. Any channel COULD conceivibly be broadcast if there was enough DEMAND for it. If you don't like what the cable system offers, demand more. If they don't offer it, pick a diff. cable service (almost impossible here in the states, but that's another issue).
What the v-chip is about is the government limiting choice. Not the parents of the child limiting choice. It's about the belief that parents are not responsible enough to raise their own children.
Woah, do my eyes deceive me? Did I just see a blatant reference to the Knights of the Dinner Table on Slashdot? For all those not in the know, or those non-roleplaying geeks, Knights of the Dinner Table is a great comic in Dragon magazine.
Speaking of, how many Slashdotters out there RPG? Maybe an idea for a new poll?
> "Ecstasy makes your brain spill out huge levels > of serotonin, the feel-good hormone, and the > brain has to work really hard to get it back."
I find it hard to take an article seriously if they use an "authoritative" source on neuropsychology who states that serotonin is a hormone. Serotonin is a neurotransmitter, NOT a hormone. Second, the output of serotonin from the presynaptic neuron is NOT hugely affected by MDMA (X), it is the reuptake that is affected. Plus, "the brain has to work really hard to get it back"?! Yes, X and coke inhibit the reuptake of dopamine and serotonin, but the body has no problem generating more, or reuptaking it once the drugs affects have worn off. The problem the body encounters is the post-synaptic receptors adaption to the large levels of serotonin in the synapse.
I'm not sure who I agree with. Virginia or the ACLU. Although I hate spammers as much as the next person, this might be a step in the wrong direction.
The way I see it, public speech needs to be protected no matter what the cost. Even some idiot advertising free porn on the corner of Main and 3rd street, or whatever. But when a spammer sends spam directly to MY mailbox, I consider that an invasion of privacy. The same goes for telephone solicitors. What if you found your e-mail address or phone number posted on a bathroom wall? (USENet groups are pretty close, but they don't count , when we post our e-mail addys to USENET, we are posting to a group of people we generally trust. If someone posted your e-mail address to alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.hamsters, you would most likely get upset.
So I don't know the correct answer. But I think that spammers are violating our rights, and not just because it shifts the cost onto us. If you're in a public place, and someone is speaking, you can just walk away. If you get an e-mail, you have to either read it or delete it. With deceptive subject headers, usually you can't just filter it all.
Is it me, or was the article full of errors? Fractals, from what I recall, are NOT the same as chaos theory. There are relations there, such as the iterative nature of both, but there is a distinct difference. Second, what does this have to do with machines having a conscious? Just because neurons are used for computation, does not mean the machine is instantly self-aware.
Usually I don't whine, but they're just spreading fear. "Oooooo, it's using biological components, watch out!!" And then the public starts getting pissed, and research dries up.
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Let's not joke around. Microsoft saw Netscape as a threat. The ability to run applications in a web browser decreased the value of the MS Operating Sytstems. Below are key points:
Microsoft bundled a web browser with it's OS. No, MS didn't just bundle some components. It included a complete software application w/ it's OS.
> KDE would have exactly this flaw if the
> Konquerer component had this flaw and an e-mail
> reader used the component.
What is the point of that statement? A would have this flaw if A had this flaw? Well.. yeah. But the point is it doesn't. And even if it did. You have the source. Even more important, you have choice. GNOME? KDE? WIN32?
This isn't idiotic MS bashing. MS is building us a world where we have no choice but to have security flaws.
Ugh.. I'll stop MS bashing when MS stops taking advantage of me and other consumers.
Josh
For those of you in the Bay Area there is a great bar in San Francisco called POW!. This is a small hangout, that still hasn't been completely overridden by the dot-com black leather jacket hipsters yet. It's got great atmosphere, several Playstation 2 consoles, and a Dreamcast. In addition, they play anime and 80s cartoons on a large screen in the back, and they have great drinks. It's in a fairly seedy section of town (6th street) but it's great. Tonight they're having their full moon party, so if anyone is interested, come on down!
It's a great jumping off point if you're clubbing down in SOMA, or you can stay all night. Good restuarants near by, such as Tu Lan (Vietnamese), Original Joe's (Italian), and Taqueria Can Cun (mexican). Just a great fucking place to put it simply.
Oh yeah, it's on the corner of 6th street and Mission street.
Josh
http://www.itsdarkhere.com/
You're right.. in SF here the leather jacket crowd seems to have them attached to their heads. I carry a cell phone with me too. I keep the volume down, and if I do get a call, I try to find a dark corner, or tell the caller that I'll call them back. I'm hoping we can solve this by making it a strong norm to use vibrating modes, headphone alerts, or other non-intrusive methods. We must socialize these people to respect others because it's right, not because they have no other choice.
Josh
Just because cell phones currently annoy people, doesn't mean they always will. I think ANY method of limiting communications is stupid and counter to civilization. I wholeheartedly agree that many people talk on cell phones today for the wrong reasons (status and image) but I see them as eventually becoming ubiquitous devices that will be used by almost everyone. Jammers only destroy, we want things that can create and facilitate creation here in our world.
Josh
Woah there. San Francisco, which is just north of San Jose, has a great city life. Every day this week I've gone out and done something (now that I got laid off in the great crash of 2001 I have some free time again!) It's a great city to party in, to meet people, and just have fun. And Detroit is a good place to go if you like the city life too. I used to live in MI, and about once a month, would drive down from Mt. Pleasant or Saginaw to party in Detroit.
I think both CA and MI have their strong points and weak points. But the truth is, I think there's something about the artistic minded/rebellious SF/Berkeley that fuels the startup mindset. As Dave Eggers put it, everyone had some dumb idea, and no one there would tell you yours was doomed. Ann Arbor has something like this, but is it enough?
Josh
Saginaw (north of Flint) has shitty roads. The entire tri-city area does. MI is a great state. Beautiful, but it relied too much on the automotive industry, and that was it's economic downfall. I think Engler is getting desperate. I remember hearing about the whole "Automation Alley", the supposed counterpart to Silicon Valley, at school in MI. Essentially just support industries for the automotive industry.
Cody's is still there, and still a great book store. But don't forget Moe's, which is right next to it.
Josh
In response to this, I've created a little GNOME applet that queries http://www.caiso.com/SystemStatus.html every few minutes and updates a little graph showing current power usage in CA. It's nifty!! Download it here: Powerload
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Mmmmm... mission.. mmm.. Burritos.. Mmmm.. Taqueria Can-Cun
Yo, you fucking trippin' My boy Larry knows what's up. See, his highrolling ass is spending mad scratch. That autonomous expenditurez is having wack effects on the GNP. That because of this here Multiplier Effex. Mo demand mean straight up mo supply.
All you playa-haters be hatin on my boy Larry, when he be helping yo bitch ass!! He even helping those broke ass crack hos that be starving to death.
Greetz to my boy H-Dog in accountz-reecevable.
Josh
I live in San Francisco. I just moved here about 3 months ago from Michigan. I live right in the city, in SoMa. My rent is $875 a month, which, although higher than most areas, is much cheaper then the $1600-$2000 range most people quoting. If you live in a trendy area, or look in the wrong places, you're going to get crazy prices. You just have to be persistant, and you will find cheap places. I love it here. I'm withing short walking distance of work, and I am close to some great food and entertainment. Like the bar, POW! Which is just down the street from me.
It's a great place.. and yes the MBAs who are flooding here I want to kick in the face.. but there's lots of cool geeks too.
Josh
Overwhelmingly white??? Has this guy ever been in a computer science program, or seen programmers? Drinking and screwing? I don't know what to say. I wish?
Well, I'm not the biggest fan of rap, but considering Dre's recent actions, I just had to download his new album now. Loaded up Gnutella.. searched for Dr. Dre 2001, and boom. In less than 4 minutes I had downloaded the entire album. It's a beautiful thing. A bit childish yes, but so is blocking all files that have a certain checksum on them.
Now here's an interesting question though. I have a copy of it. I have not listened to it at all. What are the moral implications of that? To my computer, it's just a collection of arbitrary bits. Metallica certainly wouldn't have a problem with me lending a CD out to a friend, would they? What about if I ripped the CD, then destroyed it. Could I enjoy it on my computer? Now what if I didn't listen to it, but e-mailed it to my friend Bob? Suppose I keep one song, and e-mail one song to each of my friends? According to copyright law, I believe we can make backup copies, correct?
Yeah, I could have read up on copyright law and answered these questions myself, but what I'm more concerned with is ethics, what is right and wrong, not necessarily what works for the lawyers.
Grue
Unfortunately with standard bodies, you get way too much politiking. This company wants something implemented this way. This company wants something implemented that way. The group decides to implement it as a combination of both ways, which is ACTUALLY worse than either method alone. Let's look at a heavily standard influenced language. ADA, need I say more? Argh, nice ideas, but try writing a compiler for it. Sometimes simpler is better.
Josh
I can't wait until they start producing general purpose HUDs for cars. Imagine the possibilities! HUD skins... plugin in a Star Wars skin, and it turns the other cars into pod racers! Use the BattleTank plugin, and get classic 3d wireframe cars! Use the web browser and get in a life threatening accident! Fun.
Josh
It's about time we had another good slap upside the head. We're getting full of ourselves lately. First we were the center of the solar system, then we were "images" of God.
Now if computers show us up in Intelligence, we'll be a bit more humble. The world needs more humble people.
Of course those who say it will never happen. Computers can't be "intelligent." Ask yourselves this. What is intelligence? Chances are your answer is a behavioral one, in which case, anything that shows intelligent behavior is therefore intelligent (ala Turing).
Grue
Free stuff is good. I like free stuff.
That and yet another excuse to drink w/ fellow geeks.
Playing networked games is always cool too.
The seminars remind me a bit too much of groupies idolizing rock stars.
Sitting next to your child every minute may be preposterous, but there's a better solution. Raising them to know what is "good" and "bad". Or raising them to realize the difference between reality and television. It may be too much to babysit their TV time, but having discussions with them at dinner about what they watched isn't that preposterous.
The v-chip isn't about this. It's like security through obscurity. They assume that by removing "bad" elements, we can raise "good" children. How about this, pointing out "bad" elements and introducing them as such?
Grue
This isn't about the cable system deciding what does and doesn't get broadcast. Any channel COULD conceivibly be broadcast if there was enough DEMAND for it. If you don't like what the cable system offers, demand more. If they don't offer it, pick a diff. cable service (almost impossible here in the states, but that's another issue).
What the v-chip is about is the government limiting choice. Not the parents of the child limiting choice. It's about the belief that parents are not responsible enough to raise their own children.
Grue
Woah, do my eyes deceive me? Did I just see a blatant reference to the Knights of the Dinner Table on Slashdot? For all those not in the know, or those non-roleplaying geeks, Knights of the Dinner Table is a great comic in Dragon magazine.
Speaking of, how many Slashdotters out there RPG? Maybe an idea for a new poll?
Grue
> "Ecstasy makes your brain spill out huge levels
> of serotonin, the feel-good hormone, and the
> brain has to work really hard to get it back."
I find it hard to take an article seriously if they use an "authoritative" source on neuropsychology who states that serotonin is a hormone. Serotonin is a neurotransmitter, NOT a hormone. Second, the output of serotonin from the presynaptic neuron is NOT hugely affected by MDMA (X), it is the reuptake that is affected. Plus, "the brain has to work really hard to get it back"?! Yes, X and coke inhibit the reuptake of dopamine and serotonin, but the body has no problem generating more, or reuptaking it once the drugs affects have worn off. The problem the body encounters is the post-synaptic receptors adaption to the large levels of serotonin in the synapse.
Josh
I'm not sure who I agree with. Virginia or the ACLU. Although I hate spammers as much as the next person, this might be a step in the wrong direction.
The way I see it, public speech needs to be protected no matter what the cost. Even some idiot advertising free porn on the corner of Main and 3rd street, or whatever. But when a spammer sends spam directly to MY mailbox, I consider that an invasion of privacy. The same goes for telephone solicitors. What if you found your e-mail address or phone number posted on a bathroom wall? (USENet groups are pretty close, but they don't count , when we post our e-mail addys to USENET, we are posting to a group of people we generally trust. If someone posted your e-mail address to alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.hamsters, you would most likely get upset.
So I don't know the correct answer. But I think that spammers are violating our rights, and not just because it shifts the cost onto us. If you're in a public place, and someone is speaking, you can just walk away. If you get an e-mail, you have to either read it or delete it. With deceptive subject headers, usually you can't just filter it all.
Josh
So, does anyone know if there are student discounts available? I checked the page, and there was no mention of it.
Argh, I have enough problems finding food, let alone $1,000 for COMDEX.
Josh
Is it me, or was the article full of errors? Fractals, from what I recall, are NOT the same as chaos theory. There are relations there, such as the iterative nature of both, but there is a distinct difference. Second, what does this have to do with machines having a conscious? Just because neurons are used for computation, does not mean the machine is instantly self-aware.
Usually I don't whine, but they're just spreading fear. "Oooooo, it's using biological components, watch out!!" And then the public starts getting pissed, and research dries up.