As I read most of the posts, I was not surprised to see how many people hated spamware. It got me thinking tho, if someone was to write an opensource spamming tool, what will the community do? I mean, can it be hosted at sourceforge? If so, will sourceforge make it to the blackhole? Will sourceforge refuse? If so why? Why would they then host something like napster/gnutella clones? I hate politics, but I do like to know how much the community fights for the rights of others even if we don't agree. Or is this all about "us"?
I hate spam as much as everyone, but please don't attack who ever makes the software, especially not after we have defended encryption, decss, napster and such, it doesn't matter if those software are designed specifically for spamming, we can't step on other people's freedom and try to preserve ours. If you think and firmly believe that those softwares are illegal, then all people who believe that napster, decss, gnutella, pgp, etc are illegal are correct...
Sorry, but read the article, Microsoft did not hire ALL, they hired some 3000 out of around 8000ish, and they now have around 5000-6000 workers.
...and I quote,
"The ``permatemp'' settlement praised Microsoft for recent policy changes, saying that since 1997 it had hired some 3,000 former permatemps as workers with full benefits, and had adopted new practices to limit the length of temporary assignments."
if Mr 1337 h4x0r!#$ got in, putting a sniffer on your network should mean nothing, because all your transaction should be encrypted. If he is smart enough to perform man in the middle attack to ssl and your other transactions, then your F'd.
digital cheque is overrated, how many slashdoters use pgp, gpg? try to tell my mother to use that, credit card numbers for online trasnactions is not flawed, it is the weak implementations of infastructures and security around them that is flawed.
It is not a violation, anyone can use GPL source for personal modification, I can take Linux and modify it for my own use, I am sure the guy who did this didn't do it to sell it, so he is not violating anything, and chosing to release the source is optional to him.
Encryption will not save you, when a keyboard logger is used, it logs what you type in at the keyboard, thus they can capture your password and passphrase, this is a very old thing, I wrote one in 1994 for MSDOS, There is one for sun, and I am sure there are many out there. I came across a site, where some guy built a very small matchbox sized hardware that does this, and stores around 1000 keystrokes. There are many weak link in a computer, if the OS is 100% secure, is the keyboard and monitor and all external hardware devices that the OS cannot control?
all kind of ad sucks, but it all boils down to this simple truth, will you pay for the software if you liked it? if you would, you can get it without ads in other words, quit whining.
StarOffice is free, Applixware is free, Koffice is free (well, not when it comes to the compile/build/configure/reconfigure/delete/re-inst all/fus/head-pound/tweak time that you have to invest). So why the hell is Microsoft Word $1,000?
Microsoft's move is equivalent to treason in the word processing world. You don't charge for something that other companies provide for free. That's like a hoe charging for $20 for a hj, when you got your own hand and lotions at home.
After seeing this story, I hope that People who make good software and charge for it when there are inferior free store make it onto www.fuckedcompany.com
Ditto, I am appauld at such stupid statements Taco makes from time to time, if he posted that comment under an unknown nick in the comment, would he not be moderated to Troll? Another thing that amuses me is how such a rich kid like him can be so frugal to use an inferior software just because it is open source than to fork over $50 for a decent software. Long live Opera!
You sicken me and disgust me, People whine about the lack of good software, it is your likes who are to be blamed!!!! Opera is a freaking decent browser, and damn cheap too, By giving it away for free, they earn some revenue through ads, by blocking those ads you are denying them revenue, if you are so freaking inclined to use their browser, PAY FOR IT. If they don't make money, they will close shop. Junkbuster is good when webpages are streaming ads at you, I installed it, but I realize that most of the pages are use earn their revenue through ad, so I removed it, Ignoring the ads is now second nature to me, I browse pages with ads, my favorite sites earns a few bucks, and remains online!
A lot of us have come to believe that degree is not worth the cost, but I have noticed that many people who come up with very neat stuff have degrees, I am begining to ponder if my choice of skipping school to work is the right one. Anyone wanna help me compile a list of smart people and their inventions, and what degree they have, etc.
"Ritchie joined Bell Laboratories in 1968 after obtaining his graduate and undergraduate degrees from Harvard University."
You are sort of correct, but software such as games, and applications targeted to bigger enterprise can be closed source and do certainly well in Linux. I have thought of writing commerical software for linux, but then the thought that someone will start an open source version the next day puts me off, and I don't bother.
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Actually, you don't need 4 lines of CPUs. You can have one CPU do all of those, They can have an option where you configure the CPU at the bios. and set the CPU type, optimize for this function or that function. etc etc. Load this architecture and boot this OS. I can't wait till I can have x86, sparc and mips all on the same chip. Mmmm
I am appauled by the large number of posts that I have read already bashing this thing. Did you guys just read the news article? if that is all you did shame on you. Go to the site, download the manual http://www.webql.com/webqlmanual.zip (sorry, I don't create clickable links, cut and paste it in) Anyway, this is a nice idea, I once wanted to gain an edge on ebay when I was once addicted, so I wrote a program to allow me to query ebay, with my program I can query all ended auctions, and find out which items were in demand by the number of bids, which items sold the most, using such knowledge, I can try to find such items and sell them on ebay. Using such a program, you can query all ended auctions, find out which auctions are not in demand, then find if there are any thing you could use from those auctions.
What I am pondering about tho, is if someone will soon make an opensource implementation, if so, will that be fair? I mean, if I started a company with a neat idea, and 3 months later, someone cranked out an opensource version of my product, I do be heartbroken. Ah well...:)
I have seen many grassroots level projects for wireless lan in US, but they never succeed. It would be nice if this can take off, but it seems that what pushes the limit of technology is lack of it. Thus in US where we have DSL and cable modem, most people are relaxed, where as in other countries where high speed link is rare and very expensive, people are getting creative to overcome their problems.
"The bad news is tied to the explanation for why Windows may be getting more stable."
What is wrong with this? Is this not what we want? Do we want windows to die a horrible death or do we rather see it get stable? If you don't want it stable, why? are you afraid of a little competition?
"According to a source who has access to internal Microsoft developers, Microsoft has dedicated resources specifically to the task of analyzing Linux source code and rewriting sections of it for use in Windows."
Note these two words "ANALYZING" and "REWRITING"
Anaylzing is nothing wrong we do it all the time.
Rewriting again is nothing wrong, I can take any GPL program analyze it and rewrite it, and still keep within the boundaries of GPL, It is even much safer when 2 developers are involved at least. The first set does the analysis and translates the code to english/pseudo-code/specs, the second group works from the specs and produces code.
"According to the source, it is the adoption and translation of Linux code that is helping Windows become more stable."
Imagine someone quoting that the unstability of Windows is making Linux more stable. Or perhaps a few peeps from the BSD camp quoting that BSD code is making Linux more stable. Contrarily to popular opinion porting of a stable code doesn't necessary result in a stable port. It largely depends on the program especially when working on a huge and complex code base.
All in all, this is a useless article to start the end of my thanksgiving break. It is not worthy of discussion, I hope you all had a wonderful thanksgiving, as I did. I watched Gladiator 3 times, I am on my 3rd day without sleep. *Yawn*
if I am running 2.2 you can imagine what hardware I am running it on, SMP, USB, PCM sound, ATA-66 are all out of the questions. I installed secure shell, it is just a tunneling server.:)
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when i read that, i was like whoa, linux for ARM, yehaw! damn again!
As I read most of the posts, I was not surprised to see how many people hated spamware. It got me thinking tho, if someone was to write an opensource spamming tool, what will the community do? I mean, can it be hosted at sourceforge? If so, will sourceforge make it to the blackhole? Will sourceforge refuse? If so why? Why would they then host something like napster/gnutella clones? I hate politics, but I do like to know how much the community fights for the rights of others even if we don't agree. Or is this all about "us"?
I hate spam as much as everyone, but please don't attack who ever makes the software, especially not after we have defended encryption, decss, napster and such, it doesn't matter if those software are designed specifically for spamming, we can't step on other people's freedom and try to preserve ours. If you think and firmly believe that those softwares are illegal, then all people who believe that napster, decss, gnutella, pgp, etc are illegal are correct...
This was true in the early 80's, I dobut we will ever get back there anymore.
Sorry, but read the article, Microsoft did not hire ALL, they hired some 3000 out of around 8000ish, and they now have around 5000-6000 workers.
...and I quote,
"The ``permatemp'' settlement praised Microsoft for recent policy changes, saying that since 1997 it had hired some 3,000 former permatemps as workers with full benefits, and had adopted new practices to limit the length of temporary assignments."
lie, you no write that message, your english not broken like mine, i am the real slim^H^H^H^H h4x0r4!#$
if Mr 1337 h4x0r!#$ got in, putting a sniffer on your network should mean nothing, because all your transaction should be encrypted. If he is smart enough to perform man in the middle attack to ssl and your other transactions, then your F'd.
digital cheque is overrated, how many slashdoters use pgp, gpg? try to tell my mother to use that, credit card numbers for online trasnactions is not flawed, it is the weak implementations of infastructures and security around them that is flawed.
hehe, i feel ya, all unix, tcpip, telephony site etc where marked as "criminal activity".
It is not a violation, anyone can use GPL source for personal modification, I can take Linux and modify it for my own use, I am sure the guy who did this didn't do it to sell it, so he is not violating anything, and chosing to release the source is optional to him.
Encryption will not save you, when a keyboard logger is used, it logs what you type in at the keyboard, thus they can capture your password and passphrase, this is a very old thing, I wrote one in 1994 for MSDOS, There is one for sun, and I am sure there are many out there. I came across a site, where some guy built a very small matchbox sized hardware that does this, and stores around 1000 keystrokes. There are many weak link in a computer, if the OS is 100% secure, is the keyboard and monitor and all external hardware devices that the OS cannot control?
all kind of ad sucks, but it all boils down to this simple truth, will you pay for the software if you liked it? if you would, you can get it without ads in other words, quit whining.
AFCArchive, here is your logic ... argue it.
t all/fus/head-pound/tweak time that you have to invest). So why the hell is Microsoft Word $1,000?
StarOffice is free, Applixware is free, Koffice is free (well, not when it comes to the compile/build/configure/reconfigure/delete/re-ins
Microsoft's move is equivalent to treason in the word processing world. You don't charge for something that other companies provide for free. That's like a hoe charging for $20 for a hj, when you got your own hand and lotions at home.
After seeing this story, I hope that People who make good software and charge for it when there are inferior free store make it onto www.fuckedcompany.com
Noodles asked me to make a correction,
s/privacy/virginity/
s/car/bed/
s/to work/a dildo/
s/buses/porn/
s/ads/tits/
Thanks Dog!
Ditto, I am appauld at such stupid statements Taco makes from time to time, if he posted that comment under an unknown nick in the comment, would he not be moderated to Troll? Another thing that amuses me is how such a rich kid like him can be so frugal to use an inferior software just because it is open source than to fork over $50 for a decent software. Long live Opera!
You sicken me and disgust me, People whine about the lack of good software, it is your likes who are to be blamed!!!! Opera is a freaking decent browser, and damn cheap too, By giving it away for free, they earn some revenue through ads, by blocking those ads you are denying them revenue, if you are so freaking inclined to use their browser, PAY FOR IT. If they don't make money, they will close shop. Junkbuster is good when webpages are streaming ads at you, I installed it, but I realize that most of the pages are use earn their revenue through ad, so I removed it, Ignoring the ads is now second nature to me, I browse pages with ads, my favorite sites earns a few bucks, and remains online!
A lot of us have come to believe that degree is not worth the cost, but I have noticed that many people who come up with very neat stuff have degrees, I am begining to ponder if my choice of skipping school to work is the right one. Anyone wanna help me compile a list of smart people and their inventions, and what degree they have, etc.
"Ritchie joined Bell Laboratories in 1968 after obtaining his graduate and undergraduate degrees from Harvard University."
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You are sort of correct, but software such as games, and applications targeted to bigger enterprise can be closed source and do certainly well in Linux. I have thought of writing commerical software for linux, but then the thought that someone will start an open source version the next day puts me off, and I don't bother.
Anonymous Cowards all around the world need your help, give them a chance, to stop trolling, and flaming. Have a merry Xmas
Do you have insurance? against theft, fire, natural disaster etc? Will you be heart broken if any of these were to happen to your collection?
Actually, you don't need 4 lines of CPUs. You can have one CPU do all of those, They can have an option where you configure the CPU at the bios. and set the CPU type, optimize for this function or that function. etc etc. Load this architecture and boot this OS. I can't wait till I can have x86, sparc and mips all on the same chip. Mmmm
I am appauled by the large number of posts that I have read already bashing this thing. Did you guys just read the news article? if that is all you did shame on you. Go to the site, download the manual http://www.webql.com/webqlmanual.zip (sorry, I don't create clickable links, cut and paste it in) Anyway, this is a nice idea, I once wanted to gain an edge on ebay when I was once addicted, so I wrote a program to allow me to query ebay, with my program I can query all ended auctions, and find out which items were in demand by the number of bids, which items sold the most, using such knowledge, I can try to find such items and sell them on ebay. Using such a program, you can query all ended auctions, find out which auctions are not in demand, then find if there are any thing you could use from those auctions.
:)
What I am pondering about tho, is if someone will soon make an opensource implementation, if so, will that be fair? I mean, if I started a company with a neat idea, and 3 months later, someone cranked out an opensource version of my product, I do be heartbroken. Ah well...
I have seen many grassroots level projects for wireless lan in US, but they never succeed. It would be nice if this can take off, but it seems that what pushes the limit of technology is lack of it. Thus in US where we have DSL and cable modem, most people are relaxed, where as in other countries where high speed link is rare and very expensive, people are getting creative to overcome their problems.
"The bad news is tied to the explanation for why Windows may be getting more stable."
What is wrong with this? Is this not what we want? Do we want windows to die a horrible death or do we rather see it get stable? If you don't want it stable, why? are you afraid of a little competition?
"According to a source who has access to internal Microsoft developers, Microsoft has dedicated resources specifically to the task of analyzing Linux source code and rewriting sections of it for use in Windows."
Note these two words "ANALYZING" and "REWRITING"
Anaylzing is nothing wrong we do it all the time.
Rewriting again is nothing wrong, I can take any GPL program analyze it and rewrite it, and still keep within the boundaries of GPL, It is even much safer when 2 developers are involved at least. The first set does the analysis and translates the code to english/pseudo-code/specs, the second group works from the specs and produces code.
"According to the source, it is the adoption and translation of Linux code that is helping Windows become more stable."
Imagine someone quoting that the unstability of Windows is making Linux more stable. Or perhaps a few peeps from the BSD camp quoting that BSD code is making Linux more stable. Contrarily to popular opinion porting of a stable code doesn't necessary result in a stable port. It largely depends on the program especially when working on a huge and complex code base.
All in all, this is a useless article to start the end of my thanksgiving break. It is not worthy of discussion, I hope you all had a wonderful thanksgiving, as I did. I watched Gladiator 3 times, I am on my 3rd day without sleep. *Yawn*
if I am running 2.2 you can imagine what hardware I am running it on, SMP, USB, PCM sound, ATA-66 are all out of the questions. I installed secure shell, it is just a tunneling server. :)
i run freebsd 2.2, why? it has never broken since I got it,if it ain't broke, don't fix it! :)