Try Chrome. Seriously. I had the same sort of issue. I run MANY windows and when I would start it up it would hang forever. Chroime meanwhile pops content on there so fast it's stunning. I do not miss FF much...
Multiple crashes a day, error reporting that seldom worked, and it turns out really slow which I realized when I switched to Chrome. I tried, I really really did, to stick with it. But when it took forever to restart and would just keep happening I finally gave Chrome a shot at the urging of a friend. I have something like 25 windows and 100+ tabs open in Chrome and not a single crash. It's been running well over a week now with no issues. My crash logs for FF showed daily crashes, sometimes hourly, and when I got the "there was a problem reporting..." message I just weeped. A new version? Good for you! However I'm currently pretty happy with my much faster browser and will stick with it until it gives me reason to change - like you did!
They used to and they offered it for the iPad too as I recall. then they revoked it and scaled back to 2Gig as I recall. If you have it then the plan was grandfathered like mine. As a new customer NOW you wouldn't be able to get it. Perhaps Verizon will shame them back into offering it again?
Ah beat me to it - with the added clarification of purchased rights! Interesting, although others have seemed to indicate that there was some original MTR code in it. I can't say not having checked but it ought to be easy enough to do by someone who won't be fooled by silly things like the SCO folks apparently were;-)
Someone mod this guy's post up so everyone can try and calm down with the pitchforks and torches (lol).
They aren't saying that MTR hasn't been updated. They have sometime in the past created WinMTR, hosted it on SourceForge as GPL and OpenSource, but in the past ten years never had anyone but themselves making changes. So... they decided to convert to a commercial license! Now I'm not arguing that this is right since original MTR source likely still exists within it but the ideas that they are denying MTR as having been updated is incorrect.. This is sort of like how other products have gone from OpenSource to closed in the past when no one was helping out except the original developers... except that in this case they aren't the very original developers having converted someone else's code some ten years in the past. It's not clear if they have continued to use updates to the original MTR code or not.
Here's the post from their page in case it's still Slashdotted... ======== Present (2010-2011)
WinMTR is managed and developed by Appnor MSP.
The current version is 0.9. We plan to roll out a new version each quarter. More in the Development section.
License: Commercial. We changed it from GPL since in the last 10 years there was no external development. Still, we plan to offer it for free.
WinMTR has got a new home, moved out of Sourceforge on to WinMTR.net! Past (2000-2010)
The WinMTR project was started in 2000 by our good friend Vasile Laurentiu Stanimir.
Timeline:
* 20.01.2002 – Last entered hosts an options are now hold in the registries. Home page and development moved to Sourceforge.
* 05.09.2001 – Replace edit box with combo box which hold last entered hostnames. Fixed a memory leak which caused program to crash after a long time running. (v0.7)
* 11.27.2000 – Added resizing support and flat buttons. (v0.6)
* 11.26.2000 – Added copy data to clipboard and possibility to save data to file as text or HTML. (v0.5)
* 08.03.2000 – Added double-click on host name in list for detailed information. (v0.4)
* 08.02.2000 – fix ICMP error codes handling. Print an error message corresponding to ICP_HOST_UNREACHABLE error code instead of a empty line. (v0.3)
* 08.01.2000 – support for full command-line operations (v0.2)
* 07.28.2000 – first release (v0.1)
Future (2011-2038)
We plan to further develop WinMTR, keep it running on newer platforms and add the requested functionality. Find out how you can help by reading the Development page.
So your thinking is that a person willing to break the law and shoot at these people would have obeyed the gun ban? Seriously? I'd really love to hear the thought process at work here...
Yeah, in a case like that I can see getting pretty ticked off that there wasn't a payout. If the machine says Jackpot! then coming along and saying "oops" is bullshit unless the machine was tinkered with. If you figure out a way to get the machine to payout that doesn't require twiddling it's guts then bully for you - you win. but this guy? This guy and his friends I'm not so sympathetic with.
I would agree were it not for the fact that he apparently had to jump through hoops to get them to tweak the machine "just right" to get his payouts. This wasn't left right left right up down Jackpot! It was him having to get the machines twiddled just right to make them vulnerable. One cannot help but wonder how he knew that these exact settings needed to be set in order to get the payout. If this were just some specific betting pattern or something discovered by trial and error - which I seriously doubt - then I'd be much more upset.
XP did disable some older\ancient programs from the 98 days. These were often programs that accessed hardware at a low level - the CD burner software wouldn't have surprised me. Scanners, printers, and some drivers also wouldn't work. People bitched about Vista not supporting everything too. Microsoft in some cases knew that some programs would render the OS unstable and as a result blocked those drivers. Had it been allowed to run and been unstable he would have said XP was crap. With some people you simply cannot win.
He could have fixed his issue finding updated software.
Mind you, we're talking about incidents that happened what a good TEN years ago? He's still burning about that? Who lost that license key BTW and who's fault was that? I think you meant technically LEGAL BTW;-)
Well, the summary here isn't much help honestly. Better would be to check out the previous story and watch the video presentation from CCC. They explain the issues pretty well I think and it's an interesting set of videos to watch. It's not 100% clear to me that this cannot be fixed by Sony but it does indeed look like a problem if the hacking community engages in an arms race with them like they did with the PSP. As fast as Sony would release "patched" firmware and try to get people to upgrade folks would reverse it and release their own modified stuff. You just had to know not to upgrade to OEM firmware when it came out was all.
We'll see. This new key may unlock some of the loaders to allow them to be hacked now too - it's not completely clear to me. It does look like yet another step forward though:-)
Hrm, the original key was good enough to sign firmware. I am betting that any firmware download will also be signed with the original key right? else it wouldn't be recognized by the PS3 to load - follow me? well, they now have the key that allows them to decrypt the new incoming firmware. How do you think that will work out for Sony if they try to move the storage location to something in software? I'm thinking not so good!
That said, they may be able to do as you suggest and be able to remotely figure out and potentially ban hacked consoles - until folks figure out how to spoof that too... this is PSP cat and mouse all over again. Sony will lose I believe. As a PS3 owner I look forward to the new stuff coming and hell I might even buy some more games if they have interesting mods!
Honestly? If you were playing it with a mouse and keyboard you might be kicking ass. I own a PS3, 360, and Wii but I HATE shooters on them because the controls suck compared to a PC. Ever notice that the publishers never let PC clients and console clients compete? There's a reason for that - it makes console players cry:-) Honestly the Wii has controls that work really easily for me but obviously not playing FPS. Not yet tried Kinect but want to $$.
Do check out some of the driving games though. Wow those rock! I have but not yet played GT5 but also have several off-road racing games. Talk about a blast!
I do not recall them saying metldr but instead GameLauncher. Am I mistaken in what it's called or is this yet another key? I've not gone back to listen to the video again but I do know exactly what you're talking about - the person who wanted to know why they weren't launching code from DVD. They said that they hadn't gotten the key for XYZ, and weren't interested in piracy. I believe they indicated they had the lower level key they needed instead.
Reading some of the other responses I'm less sure about this. that said, yeah for true Homebrew, using the SDK that Geohot linked to maybe(?), I would think firing from the launcher would indeed be preferred. I understand the desire to run Linux on everything including toaster but running apps ala the Wii HomeBrew might be more fun run from the loader. Certainly launching them from a DVD would be damned nice vs having to build an OS environment for them.
I guess we'll see what folks do with this key. I own an older PS3 that could, until I updated it the other night, still run OtherOS. It could also run PS2 games I believe. Seeing this key released gives me hope for things exactly like you've mentioned - MAME and other emulators. I DO have a few XBMC Linux boxes and I know I could run them there but the hassle of figuring out a good controller is a hassle. Doing these on the PS3 would be ideal I believe.
My biggest fear, seriously, is that releasing the GameLauncher key will enable people to modify game resources for cheating. On the flip side it will ALSO allow for massive modifications of games like there has been on the PC side. Can you imagine being able to have your own tracks in GT5? Or maps in a FPS? How about not being tied to the damned PS3 network? Many good things I believe but also some potential bad ones...
No, I don't think so. What was released before wouldn't allow gamecode to be run but in this case he seems to have also released a Hello World app - if the GameLauncher recognizes it and runs then this is completely NOT the same key. The guys releasing code last week refused to touch the GameLauncher code because they wanted to run Linux etc. at a level lower, IF this is what I thik it is it can be used to sign actual code to be launched. If you listen to the 4th movie released from CCC you can hear a question at the end from someone who wants to know why their code wouldn't run from DVD and no GameLauncher key was the answer.
Yeah but are they broken too because of an underlying function that Apple borked or do they actually work? Supposedly the alarm would work today - it didn't. I know someone who has OLD firmware having never updated and theirs worked just fine. Go figure...
Yeah, I tried to use a 3rd party app (FooBar?) to manage the music on my iPhone. It failed and now my phone isn't recognized by iTunes and it wants me to reset - I'm 2firmware releases behind. So, I get to lose a ton of info when I reset just to be able to update. F'ing Apple! At least I can use a file browser to pull pics off.
Oh and being tied to ONE machine to synch also sucks and I hate it. I've seen methods for synching multiple computers and a single library shared somewhere but I don't trust rigging it like that and some place like DropBox isn't going to be big enough for my music. Oh and no way do I allow iTunes to "manage" my music - hells no!
Tons of keypresses? You don't own an iPhone do you? I have 6 alarms on mine, 3-4 to help me get up in the morning with various tones and one for weekends plus another for random things. Adding or changing any of them takes me about 10 seconds. Oh, and NONE of them are working right now! I do have an alarm clock, there's a ton of reasons why I use the phone instead starting with being able to use different tones for different alarms and with the ease of changing them or setting them. I have yet to find an alarm clock with more than 2 different alarms and one or two tones. In short - the iPhone, when it works, makes for an awesome alarm that has no issues with loss of power. Bonus is that I own it for other things.
when will folks figure out this isn't "just a phone" and see that is a small multifunction computer?!
I use mine because power can go out for 6 hours and it will still work just fine, otherwise it's charging. My alarm, even on backup battery, still sounds quite loudly. Does your's even sound on backup battery or just hold time? I can set 4-5 alarms, hit snooze for hours, and use different tones to indicate that yeah dumbass THIS alarm is the one that means business get moving.
You've found an alarm clock that can do all that? If so do please tell us who made it and what model!
Yeah but lets flip it. Lets say the cops only get rewarded for a bust that goes all the way through to prosecution. Think it's bad now when you call them after a vehicle break-in? They won't want to touch petty crime with low return rates at all if we flip it. Like they do anything now....
Want better police? Weed out the bullies, pay them better, educate them, hire more of them, get them off of traffic patrol (!!!), get them out of the cars and among the public. Those are suggestions off the top of my head It would be nice if the police weren't seen as a source of revenue for the county...
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Try Chrome. Seriously. I had the same sort of issue. I run MANY windows and when I would start it up it would hang forever. Chroime meanwhile pops content on there so fast it's stunning. I do not miss FF much...
Multiple crashes a day, error reporting that seldom worked, and it turns out really slow which I realized when I switched to Chrome. I tried, I really really did, to stick with it. But when it took forever to restart and would just keep happening I finally gave Chrome a shot at the urging of a friend. I have something like 25 windows and 100+ tabs open in Chrome and not a single crash. It's been running well over a week now with no issues. My crash logs for FF showed daily crashes, sometimes hourly, and when I got the "there was a problem reporting..." message I just weeped. A new version? Good for you! However I'm currently pretty happy with my much faster browser and will stick with it until it gives me reason to change - like you did!
They used to and they offered it for the iPad too as I recall. then they revoked it and scaled back to 2Gig as I recall. If you have it then the plan was grandfathered like mine. As a new customer NOW you wouldn't be able to get it. Perhaps Verizon will shame them back into offering it again?
Ah beat me to it - with the added clarification of purchased rights! Interesting, although others have seemed to indicate that there was some original MTR code in it. I can't say not having checked but it ought to be easy enough to do by someone who won't be fooled by silly things like the SCO folks apparently were ;-)
Someone mod this guy's post up so everyone can try and calm down with the pitchforks and torches (lol).
They aren't saying that MTR hasn't been updated. They have sometime in the past created WinMTR, hosted it on SourceForge as GPL and OpenSource, but in the past ten years never had anyone but themselves making changes. So... they decided to convert to a commercial license! Now I'm not arguing that this is right since original MTR source likely still exists within it but the ideas that they are denying MTR as having been updated is incorrect.. This is sort of like how other products have gone from OpenSource to closed in the past when no one was helping out except the original developers... except that in this case they aren't the very original developers having converted someone else's code some ten years in the past. It's not clear if they have continued to use updates to the original MTR code or not.
Here's the post from their page in case it's still Slashdotted...
========
Present (2010-2011)
WinMTR is managed and developed by Appnor MSP.
The current version is 0.9. We plan to roll out a new version each quarter. More in the Development section.
License: Commercial. We changed it from GPL since in the last 10 years there was no external development. Still, we plan to offer it for free.
WinMTR has got a new home, moved out of Sourceforge on to WinMTR.net!
Past (2000-2010)
The WinMTR project was started in 2000 by our good friend Vasile Laurentiu Stanimir.
Timeline:
* 20.01.2002 – Last entered hosts an options are now hold in the registries. Home page and development moved to Sourceforge.
* 05.09.2001 – Replace edit box with combo box which hold last entered hostnames. Fixed a memory leak which caused program to crash after a long time running. (v0.7)
* 11.27.2000 – Added resizing support and flat buttons. (v0.6)
* 11.26.2000 – Added copy data to clipboard and possibility to save data to file as text or HTML. (v0.5)
* 08.03.2000 – Added double-click on host name in list for detailed information. (v0.4)
* 08.02.2000 – fix ICMP error codes handling. Print an error message corresponding to ICP_HOST_UNREACHABLE error code instead of a empty line. (v0.3)
* 08.01.2000 – support for full command-line operations (v0.2)
* 07.28.2000 – first release (v0.1)
Future (2011-2038)
We plan to further develop WinMTR, keep it running on newer platforms and add the requested functionality. Find out how you can help by reading the Development page.
So your thinking is that a person willing to break the law and shoot at these people would have obeyed the gun ban? Seriously? I'd really love to hear the thought process at work here...
Yeah, in a case like that I can see getting pretty ticked off that there wasn't a payout. If the machine says Jackpot! then coming along and saying "oops" is bullshit unless the machine was tinkered with. If you figure out a way to get the machine to payout that doesn't require twiddling it's guts then bully for you - you win. but this guy? This guy and his friends I'm not so sympathetic with.
I would agree were it not for the fact that he apparently had to jump through hoops to get them to tweak the machine "just right" to get his payouts. This wasn't left right left right up down Jackpot! It was him having to get the machines twiddled just right to make them vulnerable. One cannot help but wonder how he knew that these exact settings needed to be set in order to get the payout. If this were just some specific betting pattern or something discovered by trial and error - which I seriously doubt - then I'd be much more upset.
XP did disable some older\ancient programs from the 98 days. These were often programs that accessed hardware at a low level - the CD burner software wouldn't have surprised me. Scanners, printers, and some drivers also wouldn't work. People bitched about Vista not supporting everything too. Microsoft in some cases knew that some programs would render the OS unstable and as a result blocked those drivers. Had it been allowed to run and been unstable he would have said XP was crap. With some people you simply cannot win.
He could have fixed his issue finding updated software.
Mind you, we're talking about incidents that happened what a good TEN years ago? He's still burning about that? Who lost that license key BTW and who's fault was that? I think you meant technically LEGAL BTW ;-)
I've bought 3 computers in the last year sans OS - no Windows. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856173011&cm_re=zotac_ion-_-56-173-011-_-Product I could find more but you get the idea, computers without Windows exist and run just fine.
I have also created documents and spreadsheets and presentations without Office. http://www.openoffice.org/
Please show me evidence that any OEM will drop your warranty if you run another OS on their hardware.
Sorry but you're full of it.
Well, the summary here isn't much help honestly. Better would be to check out the previous story and watch the video presentation from CCC. They explain the issues pretty well I think and it's an interesting set of videos to watch. It's not 100% clear to me that this cannot be fixed by Sony but it does indeed look like a problem if the hacking community engages in an arms race with them like they did with the PSP. As fast as Sony would release "patched" firmware and try to get people to upgrade folks would reverse it and release their own modified stuff. You just had to know not to upgrade to OEM firmware when it came out was all.
We'll see. This new key may unlock some of the loaders to allow them to be hacked now too - it's not completely clear to me. It does look like yet another step forward though :-)
Oh so it's okay with you that playing new games as they come out force you onto newer firmware that removes features? Wow....
I bought a game system with a set of features, one of which was the ability to play games!
Hrm, the original key was good enough to sign firmware. I am betting that any firmware download will also be signed with the original key right? else it wouldn't be recognized by the PS3 to load - follow me? well, they now have the key that allows them to decrypt the new incoming firmware. How do you think that will work out for Sony if they try to move the storage location to something in software? I'm thinking not so good!
That said, they may be able to do as you suggest and be able to remotely figure out and potentially ban hacked consoles - until folks figure out how to spoof that too... this is PSP cat and mouse all over again. Sony will lose I believe. As a PS3 owner I look forward to the new stuff coming and hell I might even buy some more games if they have interesting mods!
Honestly? If you were playing it with a mouse and keyboard you might be kicking ass. I own a PS3, 360, and Wii but I HATE shooters on them because the controls suck compared to a PC. Ever notice that the publishers never let PC clients and console clients compete? There's a reason for that - it makes console players cry :-) Honestly the Wii has controls that work really easily for me but obviously not playing FPS. Not yet tried Kinect but want to $$.
Do check out some of the driving games though. Wow those rock! I have but not yet played GT5 but also have several off-road racing games. Talk about a blast!
Anyway, give it time and you'll adjust...
I do not recall them saying metldr but instead GameLauncher. Am I mistaken in what it's called or is this yet another key? I've not gone back to listen to the video again but I do know exactly what you're talking about - the person who wanted to know why they weren't launching code from DVD. They said that they hadn't gotten the key for XYZ, and weren't interested in piracy. I believe they indicated they had the lower level key they needed instead.
Reading some of the other responses I'm less sure about this. that said, yeah for true Homebrew, using the SDK that Geohot linked to maybe(?), I would think firing from the launcher would indeed be preferred. I understand the desire to run Linux on everything including toaster but running apps ala the Wii HomeBrew might be more fun run from the loader. Certainly launching them from a DVD would be damned nice vs having to build an OS environment for them.
I guess we'll see what folks do with this key. I own an older PS3 that could, until I updated it the other night, still run OtherOS. It could also run PS2 games I believe. Seeing this key released gives me hope for things exactly like you've mentioned - MAME and other emulators. I DO have a few XBMC Linux boxes and I know I could run them there but the hassle of figuring out a good controller is a hassle. Doing these on the PS3 would be ideal I believe.
My biggest fear, seriously, is that releasing the GameLauncher key will enable people to modify game resources for cheating. On the flip side it will ALSO allow for massive modifications of games like there has been on the PC side. Can you imagine being able to have your own tracks in GT5? Or maps in a FPS? How about not being tied to the damned PS3 network? Many good things I believe but also some potential bad ones...
Really? Try playing GT5 with older firmware and let me know how it works out...
No, I don't think so. What was released before wouldn't allow gamecode to be run but in this case he seems to have also released a Hello World app - if the GameLauncher recognizes it and runs then this is completely NOT the same key. The guys releasing code last week refused to touch the GameLauncher code because they wanted to run Linux etc. at a level lower, IF this is what I thik it is it can be used to sign actual code to be launched. If you listen to the 4th movie released from CCC you can hear a question at the end from someone who wants to know why their code wouldn't run from DVD and no GameLauncher key was the answer.
Yeah but are they broken too because of an underlying function that Apple borked or do they actually work? Supposedly the alarm would work today - it didn't. I know someone who has OLD firmware having never updated and theirs worked just fine. Go figure...
Yeah, I tried to use a 3rd party app (FooBar?) to manage the music on my iPhone. It failed and now my phone isn't recognized by iTunes and it wants me to reset - I'm 2firmware releases behind. So, I get to lose a ton of info when I reset just to be able to update. F'ing Apple! At least I can use a file browser to pull pics off.
Oh and being tied to ONE machine to synch also sucks and I hate it. I've seen methods for synching multiple computers and a single library shared somewhere but I don't trust rigging it like that and some place like DropBox isn't going to be big enough for my music. Oh and no way do I allow iTunes to "manage" my music - hells no!
Holy crap, that's a riot! If I had mod points I'd want to find a way to give you all of them. Awesome!
What's interesting is the HUGE number of alarm apps in the iTunes store. tempted to get one to try, think it would have the same bug?
Tons of keypresses? You don't own an iPhone do you? I have 6 alarms on mine, 3-4 to help me get up in the morning with various tones and one for weekends plus another for random things. Adding or changing any of them takes me about 10 seconds. Oh, and NONE of them are working right now! I do have an alarm clock, there's a ton of reasons why I use the phone instead starting with being able to use different tones for different alarms and with the ease of changing them or setting them. I have yet to find an alarm clock with more than 2 different alarms and one or two tones. In short - the iPhone, when it works, makes for an awesome alarm that has no issues with loss of power. Bonus is that I own it for other things.
when will folks figure out this isn't "just a phone" and see that is a small multifunction computer?!
I use mine because power can go out for 6 hours and it will still work just fine, otherwise it's charging. My alarm, even on backup battery, still sounds quite loudly. Does your's even sound on backup battery or just hold time? I can set 4-5 alarms, hit snooze for hours, and use different tones to indicate that yeah dumbass THIS alarm is the one that means business get moving.
You've found an alarm clock that can do all that? If so do please tell us who made it and what model!
Yeah but lets flip it. Lets say the cops only get rewarded for a bust that goes all the way through to prosecution. Think it's bad now when you call them after a vehicle break-in? They won't want to touch petty crime with low return rates at all if we flip it. Like they do anything now....
Want better police? Weed out the bullies, pay them better, educate them, hire more of them, get them off of traffic patrol (!!!), get them out of the cars and among the public. Those are suggestions off the top of my head It would be nice if the police weren't seen as a source of revenue for the county...