If you go to the MS web site, you can download WSH all by its lonesome. Which I've done. The first thing I do at any computer I have to use for a long period of time is to uninstall IE so I can reclaime mucho disk space to make room for items I consider a necessity, like WSH and ActivePerl, gvim, NTEmacs.
What I'd really like to find is a way to run my employer's software token in a *Nix environment so that I don't have to use Windows to dial up to the office. Regrettably, they use a hardware firewall device whose software clients only come in one flavor. Short of buying another computer and using my windows box for a proxy server, I have no way of connecting a more pleasant OS to the network where I work.
I purchased OpenLinux 2.2 because I wanted the installation support and I noticed 2 things.
1. There is a lot of flakiness in OL 2.2, for example it doesn't really install everything that it says it has installed, their version of kde has started to act very flaky on me, after running for about two weeks with no problems, now my network daemons don't shut down properly and I have to hard reboot. COAS, the admin utility has many short comings, the biggest being that it only works about half the time.
2. Caldera's support sucks. It took them close to three weeks to get me back the information I got from usenet in 7 hours, and I suspect that the only reason I got an answer them is because THEY read it on usenet.
If Caldera did buy DR-DOS just to sue, it is beyond me why they are so intent on improving the product.
They may not be adding a tremendous number of bells and whistles, but implementation of their tcp/ip stack and browser took a bit of work.
I do think that the suit against MS added to the value of the DR-DOS intellectual property, but I doubt it was the only reason Caldera bought DR from Novel.
What is a shame is that they sold off Concurrent DOS. That could have been fun....
I would define an 'unfriendly button' in OS/2 as one of the myriad of buttons you can press that lock up the input queue rendering your keyboard and mouse useless until you reboot. Of course, it doesn't lock up the whole OS, so if you're running something in the backround, it will continue to run.
And on a side note, for all those that claim OS/2 is a knock off of Mac OS need to study their history of GUIs. The WPS in OS/2 incorporates far more from Motif and X than MacOS or Windows. Not that their isn't some traffic between Apple and IBM in intellectual property, but for the most part IBM ignores Apple products (except perhaps for good old dead AUX or porting AIX to some of Apple's servers).
It seems to me that this report does not take the effects of competition into account. Write now (at least for MS) office suites are a cash cow. If they no longer held a monopoly, they would have to price their office suite more competitively.
Right now, windows isv's price their office suites to be price competetive with MS Office. MS pretty much gets to pick the price they want to charge. If MS had to price Office competively, then Corel and Lotus (if they haven't completely dropped SmartSuite by then) would follow suit. The end result is that consumers would be paying lower costs, most likely more deal's like Corel's WP for Linux where its free for personal use, but businesses have to pay.
Besides, all that would need to happen is for MS to follow their standard win32 api, and porting between different versions of windows is easy, right? MUHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I predict that if MS was broken up with multiple baby Bills providing multiple versions of Windows, ISV's will start supporting real standards like CORBA instead of OLE and DCOM and with the help of toolkits that abstract the GUI like wxWindows, will have minimal increase of costs for pretty extensive cross-platform development.
1) VA may be thinking of coming out with a competitor to the Cobalt Qube. Think Netwinder except perhaps Intel-powered (considering VA's connections with Intel).
Unless something has radically changed, the Netwinders are Intel based, running on the StrongArm chip, which Intel got as part of its massive settlement with Digital before Digital was bought by Compaq.
From what I know about the way the post-Soviet Russian government has been working, this pretty effectively lowers any chance that the E7 will get released, and if it does get released I think it will be unlikely the Ebrus sees enough profit to stay in business long enough to design a sucessor chip.
Of course I could always be wrong
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I'm not too fond of Rexx or COBOL, but do you happen to know which Eiffel implementation can compile to Java bytecodes? That might be interesting.
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If you go to the MS web site, you can download WSH all by its lonesome. Which I've done. The first thing I do at any computer I have to use for a long period of time is to uninstall IE so I can reclaime mucho disk space to make room for items I consider a necessity, like WSH and ActivePerl, gvim, NTEmacs.
What I'd really like to find is a way to run my employer's software token in a *Nix environment so that I don't have to use Windows to dial up to the office. Regrettably, they use a hardware firewall device whose software clients only come in one flavor. Short of buying another computer and using my windows box for a proxy server, I have no way of connecting a more pleasant OS to the network where I work.
I purchased OpenLinux 2.2 because I wanted the installation support and I noticed 2 things.
1. There is a lot of flakiness in OL 2.2, for example it doesn't really install everything that it says it has installed, their version of kde has started to act very flaky on me, after running for about two weeks with no problems, now my network daemons don't shut down properly and I have to hard reboot. COAS, the admin utility has many short comings, the biggest being that it only works about half the time.
2. Caldera's support sucks. It took them close to three weeks to get me back the information I got from usenet in 7 hours, and I suspect that the only reason I got an answer them is because THEY read it on usenet.
I'm thinking about heading over to SuSE.
If Caldera did buy DR-DOS just to sue, it is beyond me why they are so intent on improving the product.
They may not be adding a tremendous number of bells and whistles, but implementation of their tcp/ip stack and browser took a bit of work.
I do think that the suit against MS added to the value of the DR-DOS intellectual property, but I doubt it was the only reason Caldera bought DR from Novel.
What is a shame is that they sold off Concurrent DOS. That could have been fun....
Get teams of programmers for the distributed client. And then see which programmers come up with the best chess program.
The besides a Mac team vs. a Linux team, you could have Gnome vs. KDE teams or vi vs. emacs teams, etc.
I would define an 'unfriendly button' in OS/2 as one of the myriad of buttons you can press that lock up the input queue rendering your keyboard and mouse useless until you reboot. Of course, it doesn't lock up the whole OS, so if you're running something in the backround, it will continue to run.
And on a side note, for all those that claim OS/2 is a knock off of Mac OS need to study their history of GUIs. The WPS in OS/2 incorporates far more from Motif and X than MacOS or Windows. Not that their isn't some traffic between Apple and IBM in intellectual property, but for the most part IBM ignores Apple products (except perhaps for good old dead AUX or porting AIX to some of Apple's servers).
It seems to me that this report does not take the effects of competition into account. Write now (at least for MS) office suites are a cash cow. If they no longer held a monopoly, they would have to price their office suite more competitively.
Right now, windows isv's price their office suites to be price competetive with MS Office. MS pretty much gets to pick the price they want to charge. If MS had to price Office competively, then Corel and Lotus (if they haven't completely dropped SmartSuite by then) would follow suit. The end result is that consumers would be paying lower costs, most likely more deal's like Corel's WP for Linux where its free for personal use, but businesses have to pay.
Besides, all that would need to happen is for MS to follow their standard win32 api, and porting between different versions of windows is easy, right? MUHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I predict that if MS was broken up with multiple baby Bills providing multiple versions of Windows, ISV's will start supporting real standards like CORBA instead of OLE and DCOM and with the help of toolkits that abstract the GUI like wxWindows, will have minimal increase of costs for pretty extensive cross-platform development.
1. You said "non-nice-people suck"
2. Its not nice to say somebody sucks.
3. You are non-nice.
.:
4. You suck.
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-lm
1) VA may be thinking of coming out with a competitor to the Cobalt Qube. Think Netwinder except perhaps Intel-powered (considering VA's connections with Intel).
Unless something has radically changed, the Netwinders are Intel based, running on the StrongArm chip, which Intel got as part of its massive settlement with Digital before Digital was bought by Compaq.
From what I know about the way the post-Soviet Russian government has been working, this pretty effectively lowers any chance that the E7 will get released, and if it does get released I think it will be unlikely the Ebrus sees enough profit to stay in business long enough to design a sucessor chip.
Of course I could always be wrong
I'm not too fond of Rexx or COBOL, but do you happen to know which Eiffel implementation can compile to Java bytecodes? That might be interesting.