Itanium: er, um, we have a new architecture! I think RedHat has a port to it.
G5: We have a PowerPc system that has been extended to use 64 bits. Your old software will run. Your new software will run faster. We have MacOSx, BSD, and Linux available, natively compiled.
AMD Opteron would be another item. Your old software will run. Your new software will run faster. We have BSD and Linux available, natively compiled.
Did we mention they're cheaper than the Apple parts? ($1,500 per machine, retail when using online configurators from various suppliers.)
There is also something to be said for AMD's HyperTransport bus, with it's ability to minimize latency between interconnects and optimizing I/O, like when the CPU is talking to the network card.
* * *
While the G5 is a lovely machine, it isn't lightyears ahead of everything else like it has been portrayed. And given Apple's (okay, Motorola's & IBM's) much slower timetable in upgrading CPU speeds, it won't stay "faster PC on the planet" for very long.
So, is a digital signature valid for the agreement that authorizes the use of the digital signature?
What about the agreement for that one?
Depends on the State. Many "agreements" are verbal, with witnesses. For long term use, like with a bank or financial institution, the initial agreement is either written or witnessed.
For example, some places have you click an "I Agree" button, but a human verifies that it is you. Well, they check and ID or something. After that, you can sign things remotely.
"the poor" can be exempt. The original income taxes only applied to the upper 10% of the income earners. 90% of the population was exempt through one way or another. Homestead exemptions help low/middle income families with real property tax.
What I think is the government does a decent job in engineering and infrastructure (i.e. - Interstates, dams, etc.) but does a mediocre job compared to private organizations when handling social welfare issues.
How many people starved to death in the U.S. over the last decade? If you don't include intentional deprivation of children by a few warped parents, the answer is ZERO.
Your donation of iBook $$ would be VASTLY better spent if you donated it yourself instead of having the gov't pick your pocket.
Notice I did specify INDIVIDUAL INCOME TAX. The gov't has lots of sources of revenue, including tarriffs, fees and excise & property taxes. Keep in mind, Personal Income Tax wasn't introduced until around 1913 or so. (http://www.tcf.org/Publications/Basics/Tax/Histor y.html)
I'm not saying abolish all services provided by the gov't. Many services are necessary. However, the gov't is extremely wastful and provides tons of "services" that are of questionable benefit.
Others, like Social Security and Medicare, are so poorly designed, they need revamped.
I merely suggest the quickest way to generate extra spending income for the middle class is to eliminate the personal income tax.
What I find interesting is that the author is mostly concerned about finding new ways for the Government to raise money.
No options in there for SPENDING LESS, only taxing more.
Making $60,000 last year, I was in a 33% tax bracket -- not counting Social Security and Medicare withholdings. That means, the government took over $19,800 of the money I made in Income Tax. They also took about $6,000 in Medicare and Social Security. That totals about $26,000. I received aboout $3,000 in a return, so that means the gov't took about $23,000 from me.
Damn, that is close to the $25,000 the author was talking about giving to every American. (hint hint)
A simpler soultion to raising more taxes, ad revenue, etc. would be to STOP TAXING INDIVIDUAL INCOME and provide an opt out for Social Security and Medicare.
While the poor are able too get all their Income Tax refunded to them, it would be better if it wasn't taken out to start with. Instant 20% (or so) raise!
Taxing corporations more would simply mean those corporations would pass the taxes on down and the consumer would end up paying them all anyway.
Software RAID on production servers? I don't think so, thank you all the same...
Sort of my point. That had been using software RAID on the NT side and used this as an opportunity to "do it right". It was a wonderful excuse to tell the manager who didn't fully understand the situation, that hardware RAID on Linux was necessary.
But it wasn't a "hidden cost", as they could have implemented what they currently had -- software RAID -- just as easily with Linux. It was a manager blind spot.
If you're going to be managing a real company you don't rely on software for mirroring. I would much rather rely on a hardware solution than a unforseen bug in mirroring/raid software and lose all your shit.
You get what you pay for sometimes.
A matter of opinion. An "unforseen bug" can just as easily show up in the firmware, which is nothing more than software in a chip.
While RAM & batteries on a controller are nice, I've never heard of just the disk subsystem losing power. A full-system battery backed UPS is necessary for the server to begin with.
Other than off-loading processing cycles when rebuilding an array, I've never been convinced of the benefits of hardware RAID over software. I've used both for over 10 years and never had an issue with either.
"There were a lot of costs I didn't expect-- hidden migration costs," says Cedars-Sinai's Duncan. During the migration from NT to Linux, his staff insisted that because they had been running RAID disk mirroring and striping on NT they should buy SCSI RAID controllers for the Linux servers. "It was like $1,000 per box extra that I hadn't planned on."
That wasn't a hidden cost. Linux could have easily handled RAID disk mirroring and striping without the special controllers.
This was an example of the IT staff knowing they have a much larger than normal project budget and milking it for all it was worth.
I wonder if this had anything to do with the "coordinated DDOS" that SCO was experiencing the last couple of days? The one ESR was referring to and supposedly convinced someone to stop doing.
My point wasn't that the person doing the work needed the list -- management needed it. If it is on your PDA, then you manager isn't gonna know and quite possibly will say "do this, too".
A simple list on either a whiteboard or PDA isn't going to cut it. Most engineers/admins don't have the authority to say "no". He needs to give his manager the documentation so the manager will back him up or run interference.
And actually, I used that strategy in the automotive manufacturing industry as well as local gov't. Things like ISO-9000 and QS-9000 make your idea of a quick list unworkable.
Not that you can't have the PDA list for yourself, just don't expect it to have any effect on management.
You'll need to speak management speak (and that means Powerpoint and Project) to get your point across.
Make a list of all the existing items. Put them into some form of project timeline (Mr Project, MS Project). Show the dependencies, requirements, funding estimates and man-hour estimates.
Make management assign priorities to tasks. I don't mean broad categories like "high" and "low", but actual numerical order. No equal priorities.
Generate a nice GANTT chart that shows you'll finish sometime around 2015, if and only if no new projects crop up.
You need nice pretty charts and graphs with lots of primary colors and some nice page-transition effects to catch the attention of most management types.
Laid off April 30, paid thru June 30. used that money plus unemployment to float me along long enough to start a consultant business and snag just enough clients to survive.
Next month is a big push for growth. We have the clients lined up and almost ready to sign. Just have to get all the last duck in a row.
Not a nibble on all the resumes sent out in April/May/June. Bad time in deed.
Lucent was selling their all-optical DWDM switches (Lambda Series) last year. The LambdaXtreme is a 40 Gbps DWDM unit that uses micro-mirrors (MEMS) for switching. Data is not converted to electricity, but stays as photons the entire route. It is capable of sending data through optical fibers for 1,000 KM *without regeneration* and at 4,000 KM *without regeneration* at reduced (10 Gbps) speeds.
They sold a pair of units (and you have to buy at least 2 or they are useless) to Time-Warner. There is one on the East Coast and one on the West and it forms a major part of their cross-country backbone.
8-10 of the units were sold to Korea (South) for use in wiring up their national rail systems. I also believe NTT DoCoMo (Japan) bought a couple.
This is all last year. Since I'm no longer with that company (layoffs), I no longer get all the product updates. These units were in my product group for install, service and support.
I was a contractor. Obviously you've never been in the film/TV industry. This was a proposed pilot meaning only the most redumentary top-level design information was available. It changed almost daily as the producer tried to convince the studio to bankroll the idea for a trial run. Depending on the studio feedback at each meeting, things were tweaked or completely changed.
In other words, project planning was a non-issue. All the concept art was fine, but that was just the static look, not the animation. Much of this was seat-of-the-pants.
Yes, there is more planning once the project has been funded, but it is a whole different world when pitching pilots.
Of course, all those pirate DVDs that are printed en masse in places like China, New York and LA are going to be put right out of business.
Heaven forbid people pump the video from a DVD component output into a capture card and make a DiVX copy that is smaller, almost as good and without copy protection.
IMHO, DeCSS was litigated not because it allowed copying/viewing of DVDs but because it was a major embarrassment to the industry. Their best and brightest were humbled by a kid from Norway. Oh the shame!
DeCSS was written for, and mainly used for, watching legally purchased DVDs on Linux computers. Was the DVD industry ever able to come up with examples of DeCSS being used to pirate DVDs? There are probably more pirate DVDs stamped in China in one day that were EVER made with DeCSS.
Loss of face. A shame the idiots in charge just didn't commit suicide and get it over with.
Sorry, I asked and was never given a reference to Star Trek until AFTER the bit was done. I was repeatedly told to make it "just like the real thing" and "just like space".
Besides, fixing it simply entailed shrinking the background stars globe a bit and adding a few flying highly specular point polygons.
The original work took about a week. The fix was an hour or so of my work, then a day of rendering.
My point was, some of the people on top actually believe the science and history churned out by Hollywood to be the real deal. I'm not talking about artistic license for storytelling, but actual revisionism of history and science. They honestly don't know the difference.
A few years back I worked as an animator (Lightwave 3D) for a production company pitching a pilot to Universal.
It was a space scene and I was told "make it look real". I did, physics and all.
Then the producer looked at it and asked why the stars didn't move ala Star Trek. I explained that will the ship was moving fast, there are no know little glowing dots in space to zip by and smack the camera. Stars are big and very, very far away.
I believe the GPL only requires that the sources be available on request. I saw the sources (SRPMs) for the ia64 version of 2.1 AW at ftp.redhat.com.
Red Hat doesn't have to make binaries available for download.
However, if you have an RHN account, you can get priority access to most files (200+ Kbps download speed as opposed to 30 Kbps from ftp.redhat.com). Right now I see the following available:
RHL 6.2 Normal, Power Tools and Enterprise Edition RHL 7.0 Normal, Power Tools RHL 7.1 Normal, Power Tools RHL 7.2 Normal, K-12 LTSP RHL 7.3 Normal, K-12 LTSP, Educational Software RHL 8.0 Normal, K-12 LTSP RHL 9 Normal, K-12 LTSP
RHL 9.0.93 Beta Normal RHL Enterprise 3 AS Beta 1 & Updates RHL Enterprise 3 WS Beta 1 & Updates
Most, if not all, seem to be there as.RPM,.SRPM and.ISO images.
By looking at "all channels", I also see versions of most of the above for SPARC, Alpha, ia64, pSeries, zSeries, S/390 and the newer ones for x86_64.
2.1AS for i386 is available at: ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterpr ise/2.1AS/en/os/i386/SRPMS
2.1AS for ia64 is available at: ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterpr ise/2.1AS/en/os/ia64/SRPMS
2.1AW (for ia64) is available at: ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterpr ise/2.1AW/en/os/ia64/SRPMS
However, 2.1ES doesn't seem to have SRPMs online, nor does 2.1WS (i386). Hmmm....you can send a request to RedHat.
But, if you're looking to eval WS then I suggest 3.0 (based off of RHL 9) and not 2.1 (based off of RHL 7.3). Download yourself some beta.isos. If you can't do that, let me know and I'll burn you a set an send them out. I just d/led binary disks 1,2 & 3 off of RHN.
No, the software is all FOSS. You just don't get support for it.
Also, don't go buying one copy, installing 10 and wanting support for 10 on the price of 1. THAT is a no-no.
"The term "Services" as used in this Agreement means, collectively, the Support Services and RHEN, each as defined herein."
On the other hand, if you install 100 copies and later want tech support for just one then you must buy tech support for all 100 before you get help.:-)
I had this discussion with the reviewer via e-mail earlier today. The website (http://www.redhat.com/licenses/rhel_us_2-1.html) mentions that the IBM JDK is delivered with the product. [Read it again Jason, it *does* refer to WS as well as EA and AS.]
However, it seems it wasn't either included or installed with the reviewer's beta. Hopefully, this will be fixed before the actual release.
I'm NOT gonna survive on theater popcorn, hotdogs and mega-jumbo Cokes for 11 hours. I hope they have intermissions between the films so we can hit the mall food court...
Actually, they better care. If it is 100% bullshit, and they know about it, they will probably be looking at an SEC investigation for stock manipulation as well as shareholder lawsuits.
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Itanium: er, um, we have a new architecture! I think RedHat has a port to it.
G5: We have a PowerPc system that has been extended to use 64 bits. Your old software will run. Your new software will run faster. We have MacOSx, BSD, and Linux available, natively compiled.
AMD Opteron would be another item. Your old software will run. Your new software will run faster. We have BSD and Linux available, natively compiled.
Did we mention they're cheaper than the Apple parts? ($1,500 per machine, retail when using online configurators from various suppliers.)
There is also something to be said for AMD's HyperTransport bus, with it's ability to minimize latency between interconnects and optimizing I/O, like when the CPU is talking to the network card.
* * *
While the G5 is a lovely machine, it isn't lightyears ahead of everything else like it has been portrayed. And given Apple's (okay, Motorola's & IBM's) much slower timetable in upgrading CPU speeds, it won't stay "faster PC on the planet" for very long.
So, is a digital signature valid for the agreement that authorizes the use of the digital signature?
What about the agreement for that one?
Depends on the State. Many "agreements" are verbal, with witnesses. For long term use, like with a bank or financial institution, the initial agreement is either written or witnessed.
For example, some places have you click an "I Agree" button, but a human verifies that it is you. Well, they check and ID or something. After that, you can sign things remotely.
Would a signature created with a mouse be legally-binding?
Many of laws now on the books in the U.S. allow a digitial signature to be binding if all parties agree on the digital method used.
So, if you can all agree on wiggling the mouse for a sig, then it can be legally binding.
Please...
"the poor" can be exempt. The original income taxes only applied to the upper 10% of the income earners. 90% of the population was exempt through one way or another. Homestead exemptions help low/middle income families with real property tax.
What I think is the government does a decent job in engineering and infrastructure (i.e. - Interstates, dams, etc.) but does a mediocre job compared to private organizations when handling social welfare issues.
How many people starved to death in the U.S. over the last decade? If you don't include intentional deprivation of children by a few warped parents, the answer is ZERO.
Your donation of iBook $$ would be VASTLY better spent if you donated it yourself instead of having the gov't pick your pocket.
Notice I did specify INDIVIDUAL INCOME TAX. The gov't has lots of sources of revenue, including tarriffs, fees and excise & property taxes. Keep in mind, Personal Income Tax wasn't introduced until around 1913 or so. (http://www.tcf.org/Publications/Basics/Tax/Histor y.html)
I'm not saying abolish all services provided by the gov't. Many services are necessary. However, the gov't is extremely wastful and provides tons of "services" that are of questionable benefit.
Others, like Social Security and Medicare, are so poorly designed, they need revamped.
I merely suggest the quickest way to generate extra spending income for the middle class is to eliminate the personal income tax.
Mea Culpa. I made a mistake.
I didn't distinguish between taxable income and gross income. Taxable income is lower because of exemptions, credits and deductions allowed.
My point is still valid, but the numbers are lower by about 20% across the board.
What I find interesting is that the author is mostly concerned about finding new ways for the Government to raise money.
No options in there for SPENDING LESS, only taxing more.
Making $60,000 last year, I was in a 33% tax bracket -- not counting Social Security and Medicare withholdings. That means, the government took over $19,800 of the money I made in Income Tax. They also took about $6,000 in Medicare and Social Security. That totals about $26,000. I received aboout $3,000 in a return, so that means the gov't took about $23,000 from me.
Damn, that is close to the $25,000 the author was talking about giving to every American. (hint hint)
A simpler soultion to raising more taxes, ad revenue, etc. would be to STOP TAXING INDIVIDUAL INCOME and provide an opt out for Social Security and Medicare.
While the poor are able too get all their Income Tax refunded to them, it would be better if it wasn't taken out to start with. Instant 20% (or so) raise!
Taxing corporations more would simply mean those corporations would pass the taxes on down and the consumer would end up paying them all anyway.
Software RAID on production servers? I don't think so, thank you all the same...
Sort of my point. That had been using software RAID on the NT side and used this as an opportunity to "do it right". It was a wonderful excuse to tell the manager who didn't fully understand the situation, that hardware RAID on Linux was necessary.
But it wasn't a "hidden cost", as they could have implemented what they currently had -- software RAID -- just as easily with Linux. It was a manager blind spot.
If you're going to be managing a real company you don't rely on software for mirroring. I would much rather rely on a hardware solution than a unforseen bug in mirroring/raid software and lose all your shit.
You get what you pay for sometimes.
A matter of opinion. An "unforseen bug" can just as easily show up in the firmware, which is nothing more than software in a chip.
While RAM & batteries on a controller are nice, I've never heard of just the disk subsystem losing power. A full-system battery backed UPS is necessary for the server to begin with.
Other than off-loading processing cycles when rebuilding an array, I've never been convinced of the benefits of hardware RAID over software. I've used both for over 10 years and never had an issue with either.
"There were a lot of costs I didn't expect-- hidden migration costs," says Cedars-Sinai's Duncan. During the migration from NT to Linux, his staff insisted that because they had been running RAID disk mirroring and striping on NT they should buy SCSI RAID controllers for the Linux servers. "It was like $1,000 per box extra that I hadn't planned on."
That wasn't a hidden cost. Linux could have easily handled RAID disk mirroring and striping without the special controllers.
This was an example of the IT staff knowing they have a much larger than normal project budget and milking it for all it was worth.
I wonder if this had anything to do with the "coordinated DDOS" that SCO was experiencing the last couple of days? The one ESR was referring to and supposedly convinced someone to stop doing.
/.
Damn sneaky way to get another SCO story on to
My point wasn't that the person doing the work needed the list -- management needed it. If it is on your PDA, then you manager isn't gonna know and quite possibly will say "do this, too".
A simple list on either a whiteboard or PDA isn't going to cut it. Most engineers/admins don't have the authority to say "no". He needs to give his manager the documentation so the manager will back him up or run interference.
And actually, I used that strategy in the automotive manufacturing industry as well as local gov't. Things like ISO-9000 and QS-9000 make your idea of a quick list unworkable.
Not that you can't have the PDA list for yourself, just don't expect it to have any effect on management.
You'll need to speak management speak (and that means Powerpoint and Project) to get your point across.
Make a list of all the existing items. Put them into some form of project timeline (Mr Project, MS Project). Show the dependencies, requirements, funding estimates and man-hour estimates.
Make management assign priorities to tasks. I don't mean broad categories like "high" and "low", but actual numerical order. No equal priorities.
Generate a nice GANTT chart that shows you'll finish sometime around 2015, if and only if no new projects crop up.
You need nice pretty charts and graphs with lots of primary colors and some nice page-transition effects to catch the attention of most management types.
You must not have worked anywhere near either the LambdaRouter or
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LambdaXtreme as your descriptions of the systems are entirely off base.
LambdaRouter is a MEMS-based "OOO" (!OEO) so-called photonic switch.
LambdaXtreme is a ultra long haul (ULH) class DWDM transmission system.
> They sold a pair of units...
> 8-10 of the units were sold to Korea...
And now it's really obvious you didn't even work in the same zipcode as these two products.
Nice troll.
LambdaRouter was renamed to Wavestar OLS, my mistake. Same product base, different configs.
Korean sale:
http://www.convergedigest.com/DWDM/dwdmart
http://www.lucent.com.au/press/0901/010
Time-Warner:
http://www.lucent.com/press/0101/
1.6 Tbps isn't all that bad.
Laid off April 30, paid thru June 30. used that money plus unemployment to float me along long enough to start a consultant business and snag just enough clients to survive.
Next month is a big push for growth. We have the clients lined up and almost ready to sign. Just have to get all the last duck in a row.
Not a nibble on all the resumes sent out in April/May/June. Bad time in deed.
Lucent was selling their all-optical DWDM switches (Lambda Series) last year. The LambdaXtreme is a 40 Gbps DWDM unit that uses micro-mirrors (MEMS) for switching. Data is not converted to electricity, but stays as photons the entire route. It is capable of sending data through optical fibers for 1,000 KM *without regeneration* and at 4,000 KM *without regeneration* at reduced (10 Gbps) speeds.
They sold a pair of units (and you have to buy at least 2 or they are useless) to Time-Warner. There is one on the East Coast and one on the West and it forms a major part of their cross-country backbone.
8-10 of the units were sold to Korea (South) for use in wiring up their national rail systems. I also believe NTT DoCoMo (Japan) bought a couple.
This is all last year. Since I'm no longer with that company (layoffs), I no longer get all the product updates. These units were in my product group for install, service and support.
Were you an intern or just a hack?
I was a contractor. Obviously you've never been in the film/TV industry. This was a proposed pilot meaning only the most redumentary top-level design information was available. It changed almost daily as the producer tried to convince the studio to bankroll the idea for a trial run. Depending on the studio feedback at each meeting, things were tweaked or completely changed.
In other words, project planning was a non-issue. All the concept art was fine, but that was just the static look, not the animation. Much of this was seat-of-the-pants.
Yes, there is more planning once the project has been funded, but it is a whole different world when pitching pilots.
Of course, all those pirate DVDs that are printed en masse in places like China, New York and LA are going to be put right out of business.
Heaven forbid people pump the video from a DVD component output into a capture card and make a DiVX copy that is smaller, almost as good and without copy protection.
IMHO, DeCSS was litigated not because it allowed copying/viewing of DVDs but because it was a major embarrassment to the industry. Their best and brightest were humbled by a kid from Norway. Oh the shame!
DeCSS was written for, and mainly used for, watching legally purchased DVDs on Linux computers. Was the DVD industry ever able to come up with examples of DeCSS being used to pirate DVDs? There are probably more pirate DVDs stamped in China in one day that were EVER made with DeCSS.
Loss of face. A shame the idiots in charge just didn't commit suicide and get it over with.
Sorry, I asked and was never given a reference to Star Trek until AFTER the bit was done. I was repeatedly told to make it "just like the real thing" and "just like space".
Besides, fixing it simply entailed shrinking the background stars globe a bit and adding a few flying highly specular point polygons.
The original work took about a week. The fix was an hour or so of my work, then a day of rendering.
My point was, some of the people on top actually believe the science and history churned out by Hollywood to be the real deal. I'm not talking about artistic license for storytelling, but actual revisionism of history and science. They honestly don't know the difference.
A few years back I worked as an animator (Lightwave 3D) for a production company pitching a pilot to Universal.
It was a space scene and I was told "make it look real". I did, physics and all.
Then the producer looked at it and asked why the stars didn't move ala Star Trek. I explained that will the ship was moving fast, there are no know little glowing dots in space to zip by and smack the camera. Stars are big and very, very far away.
He said "fix it, and do it right this time!"
Sigh...
I believe the GPL only requires that the sources be available on request. I saw the sources (SRPMs) for the ia64 version of 2.1 AW at ftp.redhat.com.
.RPM, .SRPM and .ISO images.
r ise/2 .1AS/en/os/i386/SRPMS
r ise/2 .1AS/en/os/ia64/SRPMS
r ise/2 .1AW/en/os/ia64/SRPMS
.isos. If you can't do that, let me know and I'll burn you a set an send them out. I just d/led binary disks 1,2 & 3 off of RHN.
Red Hat doesn't have to make binaries available for download.
However, if you have an RHN account, you can get priority access to most files (200+ Kbps download speed as opposed to 30 Kbps from ftp.redhat.com). Right now I see the following available:
RHL 6.2 Normal, Power Tools and Enterprise Edition
RHL 7.0 Normal, Power Tools
RHL 7.1 Normal, Power Tools
RHL 7.2 Normal, K-12 LTSP
RHL 7.3 Normal, K-12 LTSP, Educational Software
RHL 8.0 Normal, K-12 LTSP
RHL 9 Normal, K-12 LTSP
RHL 9.0.93 Beta Normal
RHL Enterprise 3 AS Beta 1 & Updates
RHL Enterprise 3 WS Beta 1 & Updates
Most, if not all, seem to be there as
By looking at "all channels", I also see versions of most of the above for SPARC, Alpha, ia64, pSeries, zSeries, S/390 and the newer ones for x86_64.
2.1AS for i386 is available at:
ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterp
2.1AS for ia64 is available at:
ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterp
2.1AW (for ia64) is available at:
ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterp
However, 2.1ES doesn't seem to have SRPMs online, nor does 2.1WS (i386). Hmmm....you can send a request to RedHat.
But, if you're looking to eval WS then I suggest 3.0 (based off of RHL 9) and not 2.1 (based off of RHL 7.3). Download yourself some beta
No, the software is all FOSS. You just don't get support for it.
:-)
Also, don't go buying one copy, installing 10 and wanting support for 10 on the price of 1. THAT is a no-no.
"The term "Services" as used in this Agreement means, collectively, the Support Services and RHEN, each as defined herein."
On the other hand, if you install 100 copies and later want tech support for just one then you must buy tech support for all 100 before you get help.
I had this discussion with the reviewer via e-mail earlier today. The website (http://www.redhat.com/licenses/rhel_us_2-1.html) mentions that the IBM JDK is delivered with the product. [Read it again Jason, it *does* refer to WS as well as EA and AS.]
However, it seems it wasn't either included or installed with the reviewer's beta. Hopefully, this will be fixed before the actual release.
I'm NOT gonna survive on theater popcorn, hotdogs and mega-jumbo Cokes for 11 hours. I hope they have intermissions between the films so we can hit the mall food court...
Actually, they better care. If it is 100% bullshit, and they know about it, they will probably be looking at an SEC investigation for stock manipulation as well as shareholder lawsuits.