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The Trilogy as One
jmays writes "New Line is re-releasing 'The Fellowship of the Ring' and 'The Two Towers' except this time, in their respective extended versions. When? Once each week for the two weeks prior to the opening of 'The Return of the King.'"
I felt that the extended edition of fellowship was a lot better than the studio version. It will be fun to see it in the theaters.
I'm less excited about Two Towers since I found the movie to be a disappointment. I'll still go check it out though. (who am i kidding, i'll still probably buy the dvd Tolkien whore that I am).
I don't know about the Dec 16th all day marathon though. Something about going to a movie at 3pm and leaving after midnight. Besides, my GF has enough trouble staying awake in a 1.5 hour long movie.
"I can not bring myself to believe that if knowledge presents danger, the solution is ignorance" - Isaac Asimov
Perhaps more exciting than the extended edition re-releases is the promise of marathon showings December 16th.
FOTR @ 1500
TTT @ 1900
ROTK @ 2300
Not only can you to see the entire story at once, but beat all the other line-standing fans by 1 whole hour!
That must count for some serious geek points in the grand scheme of things.
Call your favorite theater today and request that they carry this special engagement. If they won't, drive to a big city, this ought to be worth it!
I know that I'm probably going to get flamed by the /. faithful but I really
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did not enjoy the first LOTR film and decided to not bother with the rest of
the trilogy. I couldn't imagine the tedium of sitting through an extended
version.
The problem with them was that they were quite simply boring. Although the
filmmakers had done this incredible technical job of putting the world of
Middle Earth on the screen it felt horribly sterile. Of course it's often
the case that a film doesn't work as well as the way you imagined the book,
but in the case of LOTR the film seemed to have little merit. It was a
long road movie without the depth of the Middle Earth world and relationships
between the characters and the different type of characters lost in the
filming.
Not trying to troll, just that the film had all the look of Middle Earth
without any of the feeling. A bit like Matrix Reloaded: all shiny but
hollow at the same time.
John.
(Of course there was the incomparable Liv Tyler
so it wasn't a totally wasted 3 hours
Anyone has clue to what scenes will be added to the extend version of TTT?
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Great, 30 more minutes of them running through the woods. On two DVDs with millions of features i'll never even consider watching.
-n
When are they planning to show RotK in it's extended version?
Before any king can return, New Line Cinema will re-release of the first two "Lord of the Rings" pics worldwide, this time with additional scenes and footage added.
Just two weeks before the Dec. 17 release of "The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King" -- the final installment of the Peter Jackson-helmed epic trilogy -- the first two "Ring" entries will be unspooling worldwide.
In memoranda sent to exhibitors on Wednesday, New Line laid out a game plan to promote the third film by refreshing filmgoers' memories with "The Fellowship of the Ring" and "The Two Towers."
Plan calls for putting the films on 100-150 screens in top 10 U.S. markets. Many other U.S. cities will have one cinema participating in the special extended edition screenings. Running times for the extended editions are 208 minutes for "Fellowship of the Ring" and 214 minutes for "The Two Towers."
Advanced ticket sales are scheduled to begin in late September or early October on exhibitor Web sites and movie ticketing sites like Fandango, MovieFone and Movietickets.com.
"The release of the third film affords us a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to give audiences a compelling new theatrical experience of Peter Jackson's sprawling vision for this trilogy," said Rolf Mittweg, prexy and chief operating officer for worldwide distribution and marketing.
The cost, one New Line insider estimated, will be between $10 million and $15 million. Due to the extended length of the new prints, the move is being cast as a promotional tool rather than a moneymaker.
"It is important to note," the memo says, "that these events are produced as a marketing/publicity stunt and not as a revenue generating opportunity" and that media support will be limited largely to the Internet and participating theaters.
Starting the week of Dec. 5, the extended DVD cut of "Fellowship of the Ring" will be released in some 100 or so theaters in the U.S. and in 20 theaters in Canada.
Then, the week of Dec. 12, sequel "Two Towers" will unspool, just a month after having preemed on DVD, leading up to a worldwide Dec. 16 daylong marathon, during which all three films will be shown back-to-back. Exhib guidelines call for a 3 p.m. showing of "Fellowship" followed by a 7 p.m. screening of "Two Towers" and then an 11 p.m. screening of "Return of the King," which will carry over into Dec. 17 -- the day of its global release.
Overseas, it's not yet clear whether all exhibs will be showing the new footage-added prints of the previous "Rings" pics. According to one New Line insider, the decision is being left to exhibs, which will make their requests known to New Line in the next few weeks.
Italy and Japan will not immediately be included in the foreign promotional blitz. Italo comedies dominate that country around the holidays, and corporate sibling Warner Bros. will be carpeting Japan with the next "Harry Potter" pic. Triad of "Rings" pics will instead screen in January in Italy and February in Japan.
"King" is produced by Barrie M. Osborne, Fran Walsh and Jackson, with a screenplay by Walsh & Philippa Boyens and Jackson, based on the book by J.R.R. Tolkien.
Call me a pawn of 'the man', but I will be there in the theaters for both of them. The military-entertainment complex will thank me, but my bladder won't.
Three and half hours... Why don't they have intermissions anymore?
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Just to be clear, these are being released in the theaters. Not on VHS / DVD, which was my immediate thought.
so when will it be safe to actually buy it? I was going to hold out for the final-super-duper-all-the-bells-and-whistles-mind- blowingly-awesome-final edition with all 3 movies with their respective bonus features.
however, my old roommate, a huge PJ fan,(his pet name for peter jackson), told me that PJ doesn't drag out releasing the special editions and that I wouldn't have to worry about this.
looks like my roommate was wrong. I feel like that guy in the progressive auto insurance commercial talking with a plumber as his house fills with water and worried that he might pay too much. I don't want to buy the movies twice, and I want the best version I can get. Is that so hard to ask for? Just release it ALL at once.... please?
-John
"The definition of insanity is continuing to do the same thing and hoping for different results"
Reminds me of an old Foxtrot cartoon....
The sister asks her kid brother and his friend where they are going. They say they're going to watch 3 Star Wars movies. She says, "All three? back-to-back?" They reply, "No, all three...three times in a row."
If they could get away with charging more for a longer movie, the theaters might be more willing to play extended versions.
Or maybe bring back the intermission candy runs.
Um... No, they weren't. Not by a long shot. Of course, I'm a fan.
"I'm not impatient. I just hate waiting." - My Dad
My only... my precious...
"The Trilogy as One"
So where's the third DVD movie in a two movie DVD release? D'OH! Oh wait, it hasn't come out yet...
boneheads...
I'm not a prophet or a stone-age man,
I'm just a mortal with potential of a super man.
Because this time, we really wanted a dozen walkers in the background and thousands of Ewoks scurrying around in the foreground!
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Ah yes, milk the moneycow till it drops dead. I'm sure Peter Jackson is not George Lucas, and the guilty party here is the New Line execs, but I hope it won't over-expose people to LotR. The title of the /. article had me expecting that they were going to release a 10 hour film, but I guess that would be too long, and the movies would make less profit. Instead they can make a 3 movie marathon and have everybody pay 3 times as much!
Will Warner Bros. be doing the same for the Matrix Trilogy?
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Holy shit I had dreamed about something like this happening.
Months ago I had said to my friends "Since I can't do it in theaters, I'm gonna get all the extended DVDs when they come out and watch them in a row.". Now I CAN do it in theaters. Hurray.
I am a filthy pirate.
Yeah, the restaurant and the end of middle earth! That's a great book! I love Tolkien's trilogy in four parts!
I've heard Tolkien originally wanted the three series into one large book. The title of this submission "The Trilogy as One" got me thinking. I wonder if they'll splice all three movies together when the next generation DVD comes out. Then you could take it all in as JRR intended. Sure, it'd be a marathon... but I think lots of geeks would dig it.
I won't be going to the extended editions in the cinema.
graspee
I saw on TechTV that this trilogy will include features about the fourth book. Anybody catch the name?
You mean The Revenge Of Sauron ? No, Peter Jackson clearly stated only the first three books would be part of his movie trilogy.
theefer
The SUPER ULTRA EDITION of the entire trilogy in a 10-DVD set - coming Jan. 2004. $100
The SUPER MEGA ULTRA PLATINUM EDITION of the entire edition, PLUS the cartoon movie, in a 20-DVD set - coming March 2004. $200
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Man that theatre is going to smell bad. Dec 16th = Smelly LOTR day.
My Ass hurts.
I saw both movies, because I see at least 80% of movies that come out purley out of boredom.
Yet I must admit that I was quite excieted about LOTR, only to be disapointed.
Maybe I expected too much, maybe I allowed myself to be a victim of the hype. Maybe it'd be better had I gone in expecting nothing like I did with Fight Club and come out feeling that I had just seen the best movie of the year if not the decade without expecting it.
I am not saying that LOTR is bad, it certainly deserves an A+ for effort, for acting, for the effects and for the enviroment and atmosphere they managed to create.
Yet with all that LOTR just feels hollow, something is missing. It just feels too much like an action flick. There was supposed to be something of an epic scale in LOTR, a great strugle, yet I don't think the movie is able to get that across.
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I'm going to take a wild guess and say that New Line is going to release the ultra mega super insane LOTR pack about a year after LOTR:ROTK comes out. I am waiting until then to buy the dvd. This dvd will contain all the full length movies and a huge stack of extras. They might even throw in a big full color map or something like that. It will probably be unbearable expensive, too.
Help I'm a rock.
As soon as "The Return of the King" fades to the rental market and the entire trilogy is released in extended, one-disk, full-length viewing format, I'll be there with credit card in hand! Until then, BFD.
I'm NOT gonna survive on theater popcorn, hotdogs and mega-jumbo Cokes for 11 hours. I hope they have intermissions between the films so we can hit the mall food court...
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Will old Tom Bombadil be in the extended versions?
"The Lord of The Rings: Episode I: The Phantom Hobbit"
Living in fly over country, I have to ask, how many hundreds of miles will I have to drive to see this?
...that portrayed faramir correctly. I can forgive all the other stuff they messed up in the two towers but the whole faramir business and taking the poor hobbit back to gondor just drives me crazy...kind of like Jar Jar did when I saw EP 1.
Alas I'll still buy the videos.
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Double-dipped video releases & now a return to theatres? This is turning into a George Lucas-style merchandising campaign.
This would make George Lucas proud.
They are ruining our right to privacy and have bought off corrupt politicians and death to all the capitalist dogs who.. Oh quick, another special edition release of LOTR! WHERES MAH CHECKBOOK.
Who buys a movie they've seen anyways, that's something I've never understood.
I don't need no instructions to know how to rock!!!!
Revenge of Sauron was a real dropoff in the quality of Tolkien's work. But he picked up again for awhile with the LotR/Narnia crossover.
I am a filthy pirate.
"Peter Jackson clearly stated only the first three books would be part of his movie trilogy."
Unfortunately George Lucas will take it upon himself to do it. Phear.
Trolling is a art,
Reuters 7:40pm: A number of individuals have filed suit against New Line cinemas after their bladders exploded due to a marathon session of watching all 3 LOTR movies, a particular predilection for Coke and salt-topped foods, and a distaste for hanging their weenie out in cinema urinals which were cleaned sometime last decade.
So where's the third DVD movie in a two movie DVD release? D'OH! Oh wait, it hasn't come out yet...
*hem, hem*
The article is, in fact, referring to "theatrical release." The idea is that, in the same month, the extended versions of the first two movies will be available in limited theaters, so that one might properly prep for the release of the third movie (also in theaters).
The Lord of the Rings by Jack "Rockin'-Robin" Tolkein
Part II
At that very moment, some wood elves were making an important discovery. Gollum had vanished!
Could it be that he found the ring from Isildur who fell into a swamp and floated down the stream? Gandalf frowned.
"Uruk-hai!" shouted Aragorn. "Gazundheit" said Gimli. "Orcs!" shouted Aragorn, and four hundred and twenty thousand orcs thundered down on the tiny camp. The Man Who Would Be King rolled on the ground, grappling with the murderous beasts. A left and a right. A left. Another left and a right. An uppercut to the jaw. The fight was over. And so the little Hobbits were saved.
Frodo sat by himself looking over the wastes of Mordor. He had learned a little about volcanic rock formation, but more importantly, he had learned something about life.
The parts that you felt were missing were the parts that they restored for the extended cut. It's a much fuller, richer movie with more fleshed out characters and deeper relationships. The extra footage isn't more of the mindless battle scenes you have in mind.
New Line Cinema, being a subsidiary of Time-Warner, falls under the MPAA umbrella. Now, since we all hate the business practices of the MPAA, we are obviously NOT going to be seeing these movies, right?
That's what I thought. Either put up or shut up.
looks like i know exactly when to have my next virus drop its payload...
This is getting closer to my type of movie marathon, though I must agree that theatres should be reminded of that `intermission' word. There are only two things that worry me:
1) Will my connections be able to get me into the marathon the day before it starts when they are testing the setup?
2) Who's going to join me when some theatre gets enough guts to run the weekend James Bond movie marathon?
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So, will we get to see the extended edition of RotK?
;)
What I really want is all three extended editions on IMAX. Each section would be about 1.75 hours long, with a 15 minute break between each, and in six sections. Maybe even a lunch in the middle.
I don't think I'd want to watch the movies all in one day, but I like the idea of seeing the extended editions in theatres.
My quess is that PJ is doing this because there are some things in FotR (and possibly TT) which are only mentioned in the Extended edition and are necessary to know for RotK. He mentions it in the commentary to FotR.
Of course, anyone nerding out like this has already read the book....
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... LOTR Party?
*snicker*
Dude, forget the hobbits and the pizza and I'll come.
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How DARE you express such an opinion! I flame thee, sir! Feel my flame! I liked the movies and will not tolerate your going on a PUBLIC forum and having the UNMITIGATED GALL to state a difference in taste! Flame! Take that! And that!
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Complete concurrance. I can't make it through the books. I've tried three times, and I always get bored/apathetic/annoyed after they leave the mushroom farmer guy for another 100 pages of trail walking.
The first movie felt very true to the books. Long, dull, lots of walking and hiding. To paraphrase John Goodman in Barton Fink, my butt was sore after the first 45 minutes.
The second movie (to which I was drug by my wife) was actually quite good, IMHO. I'd highly recommend it to anyone. The Gollum/Smegiel (sp?) sequences have to be seen to be believed.
ceci n'est pas un sig.
Extended performances are not infrequent in the world of opera, Gotterdammerung the Wagener Ring Cycle runs about 18 hours total, this is usually over four days, but one of the operas runs six hours. There is a Phillip Glass opera (Einstein?) that usually ran over 3-4 days that had a marathon full day run. Some of the naysayers should consider LoTR as a slightly different kind of art form.
I totally agree - The Two Towers was an absolute disappointment. If I ever make tons of cash, I'll 1) help as many underprivileged as I can and 2) make a manly LOTR movie trilogy that is TOTALLY faithful to books (sans the tunes, maybe ;) ).
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They never should have made the movies. If they wanted to bring it to the screen, they should have done it in a series format. 1hr * 52wks * 3yrs would have given plenty of time to do the books justice...
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If only record companies new how to run their business like this and get fans (suckers?) to buy the same (but slightly different version) of something over and over again. I know that was the thought with singles and remixes but maybe they should use what ended up on the editing room floor instead and have the artist talk 2 hours about how much meaning is in their songs. Thank god I have netflix!
Sorry guys, I'm not falling for it.
Like most everyone, I liked the LOTR a great deal (borrowed it from a friend that rented it), but that doesn't mean I am going to pay out the nose to see it 5 times each time they release one of the 100 different versions.
Frankly, I don't give a damn about the extended version, deleted scenes, commentary where they sit around talking about nothing for hours, trailers, etc. I go, I rent the movie, and if I like it, I buy a DVD when it's finally down to $10, and then I'm done. I don't care if they re-release it, or play it in slow-mo, or anything else like that.
Frankly, by going to all the re-releases, and buying the DVDs 2 or 3 times to get extra footage, all you are doing is to encourage them to cut lots of content out of the original movie, and add it later to rake you over the coals. Forget it. I buy the movie, I watch it, and I keep it. They can release it from different angles, and with all the extra footage they want, but don't expect me to spend an extra cent on it.
In fact, I've stopped going to theatres because 9 times out of 10, the new movies are crap, and $100 to see one good 90minute movie is absolutely ridiculous, especially when you have people talking, babies crying, cell-phones ringing, overpriced snacks, etc. The more money they try to seperate me from, the tighter I hold on to it, and the less fun the movies are.
Right now, I'm looking into spending $1,000 for a wide-screen HDTV projector that I can hook-up to my computer, then invite friends over every couple of weeks to watch a new movie on DVD. Who gives a damn if you have to wait a few months? Not like seeing it that much earlier is going to make your life better for those few months.
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One book -> Three movies.
If you've ever seen a book adaptation of a movie, you'll note that they tend to be terribly short. It would take three movies to get one good-sized book.
Then you turn three books into three movies, even three really long movies, you lose a lot of stuff.
Or, done in the reverese, if Star Wars were originally done as a book/trilogy, Ep. 1-3 would have been Volume I and Ep. 4-6 would have been Volume II. Each of the two movie "trilogies" has the plot flow of ONE novel, not three separate novels.
I'm not quite sure why movie studios don't do the one to three adaptation, as it gives you 8 guaranteed profitable sequels instead of 2.
paintball
Back when there were intermissions my grandfather would leave my grandmother alone halfway through Charlton Heston movies to go fishing.
I'm sure theaters wouldn't mind an opportunity to sell more snacks. Then again, there are so many jackasses now that most people would stampede in and out, everyone would lose their good seats, and people might get PO'd or hurt in the hubub.
I remember there was talk about how they initially left out some scenes in the FOTR theatrical release because it would have given them an "R" rating. One has to wonder if the extended-edition DVD release of the FOTR (which still had a PG-13 rating) still cut out the violent scenes from all releases, or if the MPAA changed their mind, or if they will include the violent scenes in the re-release and give it an "R" rating?
My only question is, are the movies in the marathon going to be the Extended Editions, at least the first two?
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... that 9 months from December, we'll see a sharp decline in the number of babies born.
"Derp de derp."
I'm so glad I didn't buy any of the DVD's for the LOTR trilogy, just because I feel really bad for all the fans who have a "sucky" version or have spent tons of cash on all the different versions of the dvd's. Because of this i'm just gonna wait till the summer after ROTK to buy whatever becomes the "almost-most-fulfilling-3-dvd-set-of-themoment" then at least i'll have all 3 and of only paid one price instead of owning 6 versions of each of the first movies AND the trilogy as a set.
Ave Molech Setting
Please call me when they have released the "Truly Final Director's Cut of the Entire Trilogy with No More Special Editions in the Pipeline to Bleed You Dry With, We Promise - Special Edition - Widescreen" DVDs.
Once they do, I will wait 9 months and THEN buy it.
Of course, I am just bitter because I bought a lousy Fullscreen edition of Fellowship by accident. Lousy, no good, pan-and-scan.
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Hmmm, $1000 HDTV / $10 avg movie cost. If you only go to see the ones that look interesting, that's a few years worth of movie going, probably longer than the projector (crappy @ only $1K) will last.
"Right now, I'm looking into spending $1,000 for a wide-screen HDTV projector that I can hook-up to my computer, then invite friends over every couple of weeks to watch a new movie on DVD. Who gives a damn if you have to wait a few months? Not like seeing it that much earlier is going to make your life better for those few months."
The way things are going, the MPAA will soon have it made illegal to show the movie to anyone not in the household that bought it!
You can see them all.
WhatMeWorry!
First movie out:
Release DVD
Release DVD directors cut with extra stuff
Second movie out:
Relase DVD
Release DVD directors cut with extra stuff
Release box set with both movies.
Release box set with both movies directors cut and extra stuff
Third Movie Out:
Relase DVD
Release DVD directors cut with extra stuff
Release box set with all movies.
Release box set with all movies directors cut and extra stuff
Then of course you could insert "release pan and scan version of the movie" and "release pan and scan version of directors cut with extra stuff" in all of the about to double the releases. And then of course there will be the cartoon series for the weekend mornings, and different cd versions of soundtracks from all the movies.
AND then there is mercendising, mercendising....where the real money from the movie is made...
(I am currently waiting for the flamethrower myself)
I very much enjoyed the movie adaptions. I went into them with serious reservations in mind, based on every other experience I've had with book-turned-movie, and was impressed with their effort.
It's difficult to compare what's on the screen to the canvas of the mind; a fertile imagination brings the story to life, and makes an adaption that's uniquely yours. I read those book multiple times as a young man, often going back to read them again while contemplating a portion I didn't understand. I can still recall some passages word-for-word... such is the power of these works in a young mind with a vivid imagination.
Every adaption somebody else makes, and filters through their own mind, is going to come up short in yours, if only from unmet expectations about how it SHOULD be.
I'd say give it another chance, particularly if you loved the books... appreciate the differences between someone else's rendition of that world, and your own. You'll always have your own rich, individual version; experiencing someone else's might enrich it further...
Just a thought.
Even if a man chops off your hand with a sword, you still have two nice, sharp bones to stick in his eyes.
Watching LOTR for 11 hours straight is cool, but you can't have that much fun every day (unless you have a bad case of anteriorgrade amnesia). When all three movies are released, I want to reedit them to fit LOTR trilogy in a more comfortable 1.5 hours. :-)
:)
That might be a ">funny challenge, to compress the movie 10+ times, keeping the story intact and syncing the soundtrack.
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I can one-up you on that. I don't even have a DVD player. Just a 26" CRT TV with no extra sound system or speakers. Ha!
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There's somebody out there who HASN'T read the books??? I figure it would take over 30 hours to tell the whole story, so you're always going to be missing something if you haven't read the books.
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the RIAA and MPAA? A short memory span, have we not? I, for, one will d'load and watch it, or not at all
times back in school when local bars would have "bladder bust" nights... free beer until somebody either used the bathroom, or left the bar.
The medical students were world champions at it... no hopping around on one leg, no peeing in a cup under the table... I didn't realize until some time later that they were all wearing condom-catheters and leg bags.
Tricksey medical ssstudentssss....
Even if a man chops off your hand with a sword, you still have two nice, sharp bones to stick in his eyes.
Can you tell me how many CD-R's im going to need, umm.. i mean are going to be in the unofficial SVCD release?? ;)
Wow, how long have you been saving that link for an opportunity to get a +5 funny?
It's nothing but crumpled porno and Ayn Rand.
Actually ...
Sauron Defeated (book 9 of the history of middle earth) contains drafts of JRR Tolkien's planned
"Epilogue" to LotR. "The Peoples of Middle-earth", Vol 12 of HoMe, contains drafts of a planned sequel, "The New Shadow".
So there actually sort of was a book 4.
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I'm NOT gonna survive on theater popcorn, hotdogs and mega-jumbo Cokes for 11 hours. I hope they have intermissions between the films so we can hit the mall food court...
How NOT to smuggle food into the movies...
**Starts to fuck self**
If you watch the cast commentary on the extended edition of Fellowship, at some point near the end of the first disc Ian McKellen starts rambling on about the relationship between Frodo and Sam. I have no idea what he was talking about but it had something to do with him being homosexual and trying to convince Peter Jackson to do something. Maybe someone can find out what the hell he was talking about.
- See each movie multiple times in theatres.
- See the re-releases in theatres.
- See the IMAX Ultimate LOTR Marathon theatrical release.
- Buy each movie DVD on first issue.
- Buy the Extended Edition DVD on first issue.
- Buy the Extended Edition DVD collector's 3-pack (with bonus material).
- Buy the Super Extended Edition with more bonus extras DVD 5-pack.
- Buy the "Superbit" 3-pack (with better image quality).
- Buy it all again on HD-DVD.
New Line will make plenty of money!Reading Slashdot is ruining my spelling and grammar.
For all the griping about the RIAA/MPAA, you people can't wait to hand them your money. Consider yourselves beaten - Point, Match!
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There's also the elven poem on the audio tapes, which fits into LOTR.
But does this extra material appear in the movies? Extended or no?
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
I will join in the merry weed.
We can combine this with the monthly meeting of the I'll-never-get-laid club, and free up the laser tag warehouse...
Cripes, I wish I had my "longsword +2, +4 vs. trollkin". Anyways...
BSODs are the result of a poorly written (file-)tree getting too out-of-balance to recover. Not much you can do about it, except avoid the circumstances that cause it-- which is NOT the way you should have to handle problems. They should have written it right in the first place.
but will we ever be able to see the ROTK Extended Edition in theaters?
Has the Slashdot hive mind forgotten?
Jack Valenti blah blah MPAA blah blah evil blah blah DRM blah blah Orwellian world of terror blah blah...
OK, that's out of the way, you can go about your business.
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5. Did you remember the straw?
Or Wear a diaperAnd lightwave renders on and on and on.....
And it rendered on, until the end of its days.
I do understand and share your feelings about 90 minute films being a waste and deleted scenes/extras on most DVDs not being worth it. I definitely feel cheated when I walk out of a short and overhyped movie, especially when I can tell it's that short because the director couldn't find any more material that qualified as "good".
With that said, there is a HUGE difference with the LOTR DVDs. You're starting with a 3 hour movie in which Peter Jackson made cuts he DIDN'T want to make. Then, they didn't just provide the unfinished deleted scenes on a menu on a separate disc, they integrated those scenes back into the original film along with newly recorded soundtrack material. And they did it so well that the Fellowship movie actually feels different (and more complete). The extras are also impressive in the amount of detail shown about the production process. Most extras are interviews filmed after the fact. These were an integrated part of the production which is why they are actually worth watching. I'm expecting just as polished a job for the Two Towers. If anything, the success of these movies and the DVDs should prove to other studios that we recognize and want quality.
As for raking us over the coals, yes many DVD re-releases do just that (how many versions of T2 exist now?). However, New Line has been very upfront about their plans for the LOTR DVDs. They announced early on that there would be two releases for each movie: one with the theatrical release and minimal extras, and one with an extended version of the film and many different extras. That last part is important. Having bought both Fellowship DVDs I can honestly say in the many hours of extras there is almost no overlap (less than 15 minutes at a guess) between the extras on the two releases. New Line and Peter Jackson have also announced (before either release of Fellowship) that there would be NO super-mega-deluxe editions of the movies. Once all the movies are out, they'll certainly package them together but they'll package them as they are.
Various conspiracy theorists won't believe such announcements, and given the history of the movie industry, I can understand why. But I do believe Peter Jackson if for no other reason than they put so MUCH into the extras that I have no idea what they could be saving.
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Indeed, it's a about the price of one person going to see 100 movies.
It's also the price of 50 gallons of gasoline, but so what? Getting a projector, I have MUCH MUCH more than I could get by going to see 100 movies. First of all, no matter how much I would want to, I can't go spend $10 and see any movie I want in a theatre, unless it's one of the 10 or so that is currently in theatres. It's also a much better experience, as I mentioned, and the price is really nominal if shared between just a few people.
3 year warranty. I would watch FAR more than 100 movies on it in 3 years, and probably have multiple people watching them as well, and watching movies I can't see in theatres, further increasing the value of a projector.
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In fact, I've stopped going to theatres because 9 times out of 10, the new movies are crap, and $100 to see one good 90minute movie is absolutely ridiculous, especially when you have people talking, babies crying, cell-phones ringing, overpriced snacks, etc. The more money they try to seperate me from, the tighter I hold on to it, and the less fun the movies are.
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It's a borderline issue at best. Frankly, I don't care much about the legality of it, since it's not really possible for them to do anything about it...
That's why private P2P networks are getting popular. No matter the legality of the actions, it's impossible for the MPAA to prove what is going on (without getting one of the trusted members to be a snitch).
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>Frankly, by going to all the re-releases, and
>buying the DVDs 2 or 3 times to get extra footage,
>all you are doing is to encourage them to cut lots
>of content out of the original movie, and add it
>later to rake you over the coals.
Quick disclaimer is that while I work for a movie studio, I'm not in movie production. However, in dealing with the DVD marketing guys I can tell you that for successful movies, there does not seem to be a push to come out with lots of different editions. In the case of the Lord of the Rings movies, Peter Jackson wanted to make a four hour movie but knew mass audiences wouldn't sit through it, so he created a single, extended edition for himself and for the fans. Unless there is a _huge_ push from the fans, there aren't going to be any more editions from the filmmakers (yes, marketing will probably create a three-set, but no new movie footage, just new packaging). And I can practically guarantee you that Peter Jackson isn't sitting on cut film, waiting for the "super duper edition".
Just as an example, the upcoming Terminator 3 DVD is meant to be _the_ definitive edition. If fans want a three-set there might be something added later on, but the studio isn't holding anything back, and there definitely isn't cut film being held aside specifically for another edition. While pitching the new DVD to distributors it was made abundantly clear that this is going to be _the_ Terminator 3 DVD, and only if fans want it, and if a deal between Universal and Warner can be worked out, would there be any further work on a three-set.
Summary: if fans demand more, there will be more, but filmmakers don't sit on content solely to make money on DVDs. The movie in the theatre is the best movie that directors can make for a mass audience.
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..is the extended edition.
IMO, The Fellowship was right on the mark. When I saw the normal version, I thought it was extremely well done. True, Jackson meddled with many things, but quite frankly - a film's audience isn't going to want to see some crochety old lawn gnome (*coughBombadilcough*) appear for one scene and then never be heard about save for one line by Gandalf at the end of the trilogy.
The extended edition, of course, added so much more. It's how The Fellowship should've been filmed in the first place - and damn the length!
I had high hopes for The Two Towers. Until I saw Aragorn fall off a cliff, Legolas shieldboarding down stairs, heard Gimli's incessant short jokes that got tiring after the first one.. I think, however, the worst part was the total assassination of Faramir's character by Jackson.
(HINT: For those of you who haven't read the books, Faramir != Boromir. K THX BYEBYE.)
I can only hope that the extended edition brings the entire Osgiliath scene to better light. As it stands now, the scene actually seems juxtaposed - dialogue simply does not match up correctly. I'm hoping this is indeed a case of, "Wull, we had to make cuts.. And.."
If so, they could've chosen a better place to make cuts - like Legolas' ninja antics, or Liv Tyler's (I will not call that character Arwen) constant whining.
I wasn't going for elitism. Just pointing out how the MPAA is successfully raping the public through crap like this, time and time again.
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I agree that the theatrical version was a bit lacking. Many things were missing, others were just glossed over (Lorien comes to mind). I would even go so far as to say that yes, it was boring. I, for one, will never watch the original theatrical version of Fellowship ever again.
The extended edition, OTOH, has pretty much everthing the original release was missing. The story is much more fleshed out and real, instead of just glossed over. The characters have more depth. It's amazing what a few extra seconds here and there did for it. (in many cases that's all it amounted to)
My mom, (not a fantasy fan by any stretch of the imagination) fell asleep while watching FotR in the theater. She didn't like it. But when I got the extended edition and saw how much better it was, I convinced her to give it a try. She agrees with me that the extended edition is a far better movie, and she actually enjoyed it!
So John, do yourself a favor and give the extended edition a try. If you still don't like it, then that's your perogative, but at least you gave it a shot.
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No, I've just stopped going to the theatres... Problem solved.
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Unless of course there's not going to be an Extended ROTK, in which case disregard my previous paragraph.
But then again there's got to be an EE ROTK, since there's got to be those 2 DVD's come December 2004. Man, that's going to be like over four hours of movie.
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without getting one of the trusted members to be a snitch
I don't think that is hard at all to do because nothing has to be done in person. Try infiltrating a militant idealogical group. That would be hard.
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I thought that we were against the MPAA because of how they treat their customers?
I'll buy tickets for both part 1 and part 2 of the Return of the King in advance! Please. PLEASE!
I would hate for RotK to feel rushed. Well, at least make it so long we need an intermission in it. Say a five hour movie?
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That way, you can wear your costume for the duration of all 3 movies without changing... Snah
New Line, of course, and Kimberly Clark (manufacturer of Depends undergarments)
I too am excited with Fox releasing the return of the King of the Hill.
Hank, Dale, Bobby; all legends in the annals of great storytelling. The part where Boomhauer runs over the hobbits in his classic Camaro had me rolling on the floor.
New Line have said they're not going to release such an edition. The extended editions are it. IMO, they're treating us well, announcing all editions in advance and making sure that the theatrical and extended edition DVD's don't overlap at all. Oh yeah, and next time, RTFB!
Granted, the book was richer than the movie in content, but the visuals were incredible. Plus, if you get a chance to watch the World Series of Poker on ESPN, you can imagine Scotty Nguyen in the role of Gollum. Just throw the championship bracelet on the table and wait for him to screech "The Precious! MUST HAVE THE PRECIOUSSS!"
(I know, that will be lost on most of this audience, but if you've seen it, you'll know what I mean.)
If the Star Wars people put even one hundredth of the thought and effort into "Phantom Menace" and "Attack of the Clones"...
I don't even have a CRT TV. No TV at all. No CRT. Just the DVD player in my computer and the flat panel monitor.
Television is just too depressing. The concept that you have to schedule a certain amount of time each week, at a specific time, to watch something generated for the purpose of catching your eyeball and exposing it to advertising is just, well, depressing.
Besides, I think there's something about the refresh rate that dulls the brain.
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Now we can all own 3 copies of the
first movie and two of the second.
By the time the third is released,
we will all be able to own 3, 3 and 1.
Give them another year and it will be
3, 3 and 3. I can have a set next to
all my DVD players, so I never have
to carry it around.
I thought that we were all against the MPAA because of their tactics?
...then invite friends over every couple of weeks to watch a new movie on DVD. The way things are going, the MPAA will soon have it made illegal to show the movie to anyone not in the household that bought it!
That already is illegal. Or, at least, prohibited in the license under which you agreed to enjoy the movie. Watch the FBI warning carefully - licensed for private home use only. Public performance is prohibited, whether or not you charge, which is what you are doing. I remember reading an article a while back about how the MPAA was going to try cracking down on movie clubs like those, in big cities, but I don't remember where it was.
this might work too...
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Not as long as I've been saving this one.
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Mix the following ingredients:
* Extended versions of all 3 LOTR movies
* 10 full-size bags of cheetos
* 10 cases of coca cola
* Home-made medeival armor
* After-movie D&D setup in the basement
Mixing and chanting "Ni" will summon the terrible god of geekdom to scour the world for social acceptance.
I wish they would go ahead and film that scene and the burrow downs and put them in the DVD special editions.
Just for the truly geeky among us.
How many out there will start at noon or 1:00 PM by watching the animated The Hobbit flick before heading to the theaters? Thinking we might want to see if we can get our folks at work let us watch it on the projection screen there for a day of "theater-quality" Tolkien back-to-back! Then instead of 11 straight hours you'd have around 13 straight hours!!
9 months from December, we'll see a sharp decline in the number of babies born.
/. crowd has much influence over the number of babies being conceived.
That won't be much of a concern. Somehow I doubt the
Well, I know where I'll be spending over a lot of time this late-fall/early winter...
I know what you mean.
When I saw the theatrical release of Fellowship I thought it was a bit flat.
In fact I thought that the Middle Earth of Fellowship was not beautiful enough, that it was too dark and stark, certainly not green enough. I blame it on Jackson living in Wellington which is a bit like that - whereas I grew up in Christchurch and my vision of Middle Earth was based on my childhood memories of the very places they filmed the movie.The South Island was for me Middle Earth! But the movie I think lost a lot of that feeling for me.
The extended DVD was a revelation therefore. Not only did all the characters gain depth and breadth but so did Middle Earth. I went from not feeling too special about the movie, not wanting to see it again, and being bemused by my sister's enthusiasm, to rapture at how the extended version worked so much better.
So try the Extended Version... I'll probably wait for the Extended Two Towers as well rather than get the DVD release next week. And I agree with the poster who said Towers seemed fake and artificial - but it was still a good movie.
I hope Hong Kong gets the extended Movies on screen - but I'm not holding my breath.
That's good, of course, but can you name a reason why they had to sell two different editions to do that? If it's an hour of extra video, it could be stored as an extra track on the DVD, and selected from a menu. There is just no reason to sell the short version, then wait awhile, and tell everyone there is a longer version they should also buy.
Again, can you name any reason it is necesarry for them to sell two different versions (other than trying to squeeze every dollar they could, out of consumers)?
Well, there is always the possibility that they are being sincere, but a few years later they will pull a George Lucas/Steven Sepilberg and decide that they want to add-in more special effects, digitally change something in the movie, or record entirely new scenes.
Even better... LOTR prequals, 30 years later when LOTR has become a classic, the director has no talent left, and has to cash-in on crappy renditions of his old cash-cow.
This has quickly turned into a Star Wars rant... Back to the point, their activites really do concern me, and make me weary of even spending a few dollars to rent the movies. In the end I probably will buy them, but I'll probably stay away for a few years after their popularity has died down, just to make sure I'm not in for any surprises. Then again, maybe the DVDs will disapear from store shelves by then, and I'll have forgetten about it.
What it all comes down to, is a lot of questionable behaviors, that makes many people distrustful of the movie industry as a whole. It's really the same thing that caused the fall of the American auto industry, and numerous other industry problems both recent and in the distant past.
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:-D :-D I like to turn *ALL* negatives. into *positives*! :-D :-D Let's think of the *positive* possibilities this presents! ! !!! ! (Ren is wearing the happy helmet)
[Super-Scary-Enthusiastic mode OFF (before I break something)]
But seriously, this needn't be so bad. All it means is: we have a reasonable excuse to buy the full (extended) DVD set when it comes out and...
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The second release, the "Extended" versions was for fans of the books/films.
The reason they broke it up like that was because the video market demands a release on a faster cycle than PJ and New Line could release the Extended version, so they put out the theatrical verion.
It's not any kind of trickery, they came right out and said this before the first one was released. "If you just want to add to your DVD collection, get the first one, if you are a LOTR fan, get the second one."
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oh great... and I just got the original release of TTT from BitTorrent burned onto CD's. Now your telling me I have to go and redownload the whole thing? Thanks alot... :)
I can hardly wait for the "Return of the King". I can't wait to see how it ends! I sure hope Sauron doesn't take over all of Middle Earth! That would be bad! I bet it will have a happy ending though where the guy gets the girl. Except the main character doesn't have a girl so maybe he will come out of the closet and it will end with Sam giving Frodo a hairy foot massage or something.
My only question is will the ROTK be an extended edition in its initial state or will we have to wait another year before I can finally sit down in a cinema and watch the entire extended trilogy in one sitting? As it is, I had been waiting for the opportunity to see the entire trilogy in a cinema (and wondered when and if any cinema would do it) in a day. I had never really hoped that I would get to see the extended editions in the cinema so this is excellent news, I just hope that they get the ROTK out in an extended edition for the cinemas also. I'm sure that every (reasonably large) city going would have a cinema which would take on showing the full series daily in extended form for a few weeks (and it wouldn't matter whether they did it on ROTK release or a month or two after so those prints can travel). This could be one of those "cultural" experiences which shapes the future of cinematography! I remember going to see SW:ESB and SW:ROTJ for the first times in the cinema back to back with my dad and that was one of the greatest days of my childhood (I was about 9)! Pity he didn't feel up to doing the full 3 movie trilogy!
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Who would have thought they would try to milk the older episodes by re-releasing them as extended? Who could have imagined that they would use fist two episodes to promote the third?? I'm speechless.
3. Bane was found unconscious at the scene where several other ships had previously been destroyed. Bane was unconscious long before Neo and the Nebuchadnezzar's crew was picked up. This is made obvious by the crew's discussion about him later. He's been onboard for a while, and they hint that only he knows what really happened at the "massacre", but he's too ... unconscious to share what he knows.
I know I'm going to be flamed for this, but I don't care....*grins*
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This a great idea! Now I can NOT CARE about seeing the first two movies back to back, just in time to NOT CARE about seeing the third movie!
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You could just go read "Bored of the Rings". And given "Meet the Feebles" I think Peter Jackson is exactly the right person to bring it to the screen.