promptly know that the software they use has been improved and fixed-
you should really check out freshmeat then. it's purpose is to let people know when software is updated. i even think fm will email you a digest so you dont even have to go there.
i suppose there are people who do not know about freshmeat and that is why they use slashdot for this purpose.
so for those not familar with it, freshmeat can be found at: www.freshmeat.net
using/. to find out about new software is sort of like using a jackhammer to put a nail in a piece of wood.
how does sircam affect every email user? shouldnt you say it affects every outlook user who has scripting enabled and is ignorant enough to open attachments they are not expecting?
personally i think a root exploit that is broadcast to everyone on your subnet is worse. especially if your subnet is on @home.
i got hit 17 times during the hayday (july 19th). i was hit once last night around 7. i've been hit 5 times since 11:40 (its 12:18 right now). since it grows exponentially it's similar to cancer. it starts off slowly and you dont notice it once its big enough to notice it you're almost dead. this is going to be a fun few days.
it was an "out there" idea in the 30's because of the technological requirements. right now it's not that "out there" because the gap between what we currently have and what we want to achieve isn't nearly as large as it would have been in the 30's.
it's kinda good that it covers redhat 6.2. all the desktops here run 7.1 but our servers are still running 6.2.
why? because while 7.1 is fairly nice and it supports alot more required by workstation users it's stability is still questionable in my mind. 6.2 has most of the bugs worked out and i would imagine more people are useing it on servers than 7.1. so your book is still valid for those who want to setup a stable fileserver/nis/firewall/etc using redhat.
while i appreciate your enilghtened viewpoint, you should also realize that the quality of a distro is irrelevent if they cannot pay the bills. i'm sorry you had a bad expirence with mandrake. i personally cannot comment on it-i tried mandrake out once a couple years ago. for every distro there is at least one person who has had a good expirence and one person who hasn't.
there are alot of people on slashdot that bash other distros. i personally think the only people who have an opinion that matters is someone who creates a distro. a person who creates and maintains a distro has an understanding of what that process is like and can make an informed decision on what is and is not utter CRAP. so mandrake didnt work out for you, thats nice. i really dont think they want people like yourself as a customer. personally i would prefer customers with level heads and a little reason.
actually right after the ipo might be a good time for acquisitions. if suse has alot of tools that can be adapted to enhance mandrake it might be a good idea. after the ipo mandrake should have alot of capital and will need something to invest in.
it's not so much hero worship, but exposure. dont you know noone reads these days:). however almost everyone has a cdplayer, and most people reading/. know what to do with an mp3.
the alternative tentacles label carries alot of spoken word stuff from noam chomsky. they even have some sample mp3's you can download to see what he has to say.
When the Slackware Linux project was cut loose from its parent company in April many devoted users wondered if the project would continue. Patrick Volkerding vowed it would. Despite the upheaval that accompanied what amounted to corporate abandonment, Volkerding and the team made good on that promise. On June 28, 2001, Slackware Linux Release 8.0 was made available.
It is a very current distribution in terms of most of the component versions. Both kernels 2.4.5 and 2.2.19, glibc 2.2.3, KDE 2.1.2, Gnome 1.4, XFree86 4.1.0, and Samba 2.2 are among the major items.
Two retail packaged versions will soon be available; one with and the other without the companion book, Slackware Essentials, for $39.99 and $49.99, respectively. The downloadable version on which this review is based comprises three CD's in ISO format.
The first is a bootable install CD. For those whose systems are incapable of booting to a CD-ROM device, floppy bootdisk images and utilities are included. The second CD contains extra packages including additional window managers, ham radio packages such as the excellent F6FBB packet radio BBS, a mirror of the Slackware online book, Linux HOW-TO's, FAQ's, and Zipslack which allows installation of a small installation of Slackware on a DOS partition or Zip disk. The third CD contains the sources.
For puposes of this review I installed Slackware 8.0 on a freshly wiped hard drive. The hardware configuration can be viewed here.
The setup utility is text based, which seems like an anachronism in these days of fancy graphical installers. Potential users should not be put off because the utility is very easy to use and walks you through each step.
The install disk includes fdisk and the excellent menu driven cfdisk for drive partitioning. If the drive is not already partitioned, the setup utility exits to a command prompt where the partitioning software must be run. Once complete, typing setup at the prompt puts you back into the setup utility where you select the partitions, select the mount points, and format them.
Setup asks for the source from which the packages will be installed, which seems a little strange since the installation was booted from the CD.
Once the source is selected setup then asks for the type of installation and groups of packages. Selecting the default installation types (such as "full") will install kernel 2.2.19 as the default kernel. If you intend to use kernel 2.4.5 or have a SCSI based system there are special considerations which are only vaguely touched upon in the documentation. If that's what you want go here for a little help.
Once setup is finished installing packages it will ask if you want to configure LILO, a modem, basic networking (it correctly identified and installed the module for my Realtek 8139 based NIC), and finally prompt the user to press Ctrl-Alt-Delete to restart the system.
Slackware 8.0 does not use a graphical login manager. Login is done through the console, though users may manually configure a graphical login manager should they desire. After login entering startx at the prompt will invoke the GUI. The default is KDE which was fine with me since I like KDE. This is easily changed (go here for how) for those who prefer something else.
It did not install the driver modules for my soundcard requiring me to manually edit one configuration file. (Go here to read what worked for me.)
I consider my user experience level with Linux to be somewhere shy of intermediate. But I remember installing Slackware Linux several years ago from floppy disks whose images took several hours to download over the blazing fast 14.4kbps connection I was using at the time. I did it on encouragement from a friend who suggested it would be easy. At the time it wasn't. It took me over two weeks before I got everything to work right. How things have changed.
but have you considered some of the firewall boxes made by linksys and netgear? the linksys boxes cost between 140 and 200 (USD). the 200$ one has wireless capability.
i've setup ipmasq and messed around with the trinityos firewall script. i've also played with the premade linksys firewall. if you need some service that the prebuilt boxes cannot provide i can understand. if you are wanting to use linux just to "use" linux i really think you should look into something prepackaged. they are inexpensive with respect to money and time.
I can't imagine that they didn't think as hard about security as Apache or Linux for example.
i'm not bashing microsoft here, but the windows3.1/95/98/nt/etc os's originated from dos which is a single user operating system. there were no concerns made with respect to security when dos was originally placed on the market. because of the application base dos had the various windowsxxx's that have come along had to be backwards compatable with dos programs. as a result you have this pseudomultiuser platform that implements security as an afterthought. see for example this article about windows xp.
on the other hand linux is based on unix, which microsoft trashes for being 30 year old technology, but this technology has had 30 years to iron out alot of the security issues. unix was also designed with multiple users in mind which affects everything from file access to memory allocation.
so in essance linux, via unix, has had alot more thought put into security than microsoft. as a result of linux being open alot of the security issues can be addressed by its users. because microsoft is closed the poor iis administrators have to sitback while their boxen are DOS'ed and wait for a patch to arrive. its sad really.
hey i'm not too good at math but:
700*8/(10*60) = 9.33 megabits/sec.
if you are getting 9.3mb/sec you could setup a nice web hosting/colocation business in your house. you should really consider this as an additional source of income. a t1 is 1.5mb/s so you are effectively getting 6 t1's through you cable modem. i'm plugged into internet 2 here at school and i cannot even get that kinda speed!
funny when i read your post i thought you ment that google took information from an objective database selected by an objecctive algorithm. so, there is one person out there on the net that agrees with you-at least on this issue.
explosives, or other relatively sophisticated weaponry.
what is so sophisticated about diesel fuel and fertilizer? really there are alot of explosives that are cheap and easy to make. a simple google search will provied instructions on how to construct such devices. you can even purchase the books online if you cannot make it down the library.
really though if someone wants you dead there isnt much you can do to stop them especially if you are not aware of their desire. banning guns treats the symptom and not the problem. the only solution that involves banning stuff is to ban everything. the only way to stop people from violating the rights of others is to strap everyone to a bed at birth and not allow them to come into contact with others.
first where did you get the numbers? second do you have the numbers for the number of people knifed to death? jumped off bridgets?
this comes back to the statistics thing again. you are trying to make inferences based on two numbers. these two numbers dont even come close to fully describing the situation in either country. by this i mean: in the us a gun may be the tool of choice for suicide. in the uk and else where it might be drugs, or sliting ones wrist. if the people are going to kill themselves either way the method doesnt really matter. this is true for any type of violent crime. thats why i dont think you can make inferential stantments based on the statistics you have put forward.
the next piece of reasoning might be wasted on people who are not from the us. the constitution is written in such a manner that makes this country pseudodemocratic. the constitution states that we have certain rights and legislation is reserved for those issues that are not explicitly mentioned. since the right to bare arms is explicitly mentioned, that removes it from the realm (or should remove it from) of legislation.
there is a mechanism in place to remove this right.
it is possible to amend the constitution, but i doubt the democrats will be able to pull enough republicans over to the cause on this issue. amending the constitution was made diffacult intentionally to preserve the rights we do have.
The fact is you are far less likely to be killed during a crime in Britain then in the
USA. Are you safer in the USA or in Britain? Which one has guns?
some day you will take a statistics class and realize that you cannot make causical assumptions from statistical data.
if the only thing that happened in the us and britan was crime, and the only difference between the crimes was one person used a gun you might have a case.
take for example drunk driving. this claims many lives each year. i dont think you will argue that we have alot more land mass here in the us and as a result more people own cars. also on average we drive farther each day. so because you are more likely be killed during a crime in the us are you safer in britan? which one has more cars?
The next time someone breaks into my house they are highly unlikely to be carrying a gun, because I live in a society that isn't obsessed with them.
thats fine. if someone were to break into my house they would be greatly slowed down by a bullet weather or not they had a gun. see how this works? as an example look at south africa. in the last couple years they passed laws banning guns. now the only people who have guns are the criminals.
you really dont understand the colonies comment? you do realize that at one point in time britan controlled the us colonies and abused them to the point where they had to remove the british. here in the us we refer to that as the revolutionary war. to prevent the citizens from being rolled over by the government, the right to bear arms was written into our constitution. that is why i find it humorous when a person from britan comments on how we have an irrational desire to have the right to bear arms.
The problems with laws ALLOWING guns is you end up with one of the highest gun shot deaths per capita. Britain has something like 1/1000 of the PER CAPITA death by gunshots compared to the USA. Why? Because people don't have guns. What is it you can't understand about that?
vague numbers, do you have any references?
do you really think that if someone wants to kill alot of people not having a gun will stop them? honestly if i wanted to kill alot of people i could make explosives from common chemicals that would make the worst school shooting to date look harmless.
There are plenty of guns available for target shooting only purposes, but
these don't seem to be the type of gun people want to own. Odd.
yeah the next time somone breaks into your house ask them if they will hold a target for you. also keep in mind, in the US the right to bare arms is intrinsically link to the distrust of governemnt. the government is less likely to try to opress an armed populace.
i remember after one of those school shootings somone on cnn was interviewing a person from britan. the lady said she couldnt understand why americans think we need guns. i guess she forgot all about the colonies. after the series of school stabbings in japan they are going to have to ban knives.
the problem with laws banning things like guns and root kits is there are already laws banning their abuse. we already have legislation for murder and computer crimes. passing more laws is a silly thing to do. people who murder obviously dont have anything aginst breaking the law. the same with people who go around rooting boxen.
think about that when you see someone driving that SUV.
i do think about that whenever i see someone driving an suv. personally i ride a bike or take a bus. recent events with the ford explorer and the jeep grand cherokee have made me question the exsistance of a god. could he be striking down the yuppies? i hope so:)
at first gnome was created because basically kde wasnt free as in speech. now that they are both free why should kde try to match gnome when they are creating things like mono. hell if it's open kde can use mono.. i know you're probably thinking... that would make sense. it's just a thought.
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promptly know that the software they use has been improved and fixed-
/. to find out about new software is sort of like using a jackhammer to put a nail in a piece of wood.
you should really check out freshmeat then. it's purpose is to let people know when software is updated. i even think fm will email you a digest so you dont even have to go there.
i suppose there are people who do not know about freshmeat and that is why they use slashdot for this purpose.
so for those not familar with it, freshmeat can be found at: www.freshmeat.net
using
SirCam spreads in an attached EXE
so would this be an elf binary? if not i doubt it will run on my computer.
how does sircam affect every email user? shouldnt you say it affects every outlook user who has scripting enabled and is ignorant enough to open attachments they are not expecting?
personally i think a root exploit that is broadcast to everyone on your subnet is worse. especially if your subnet is on @home.
i got hit 17 times during the hayday (july 19th). i was hit once last night around 7. i've been hit 5 times since 11:40 (its 12:18 right now). since it grows exponentially it's similar to cancer. it starts off slowly and you dont notice it once its big enough to notice it you're almost dead. this is going to be a fun few days.
this woman claims that it was.
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garrote is a _method_ not a past tense verb.
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it was an "out there" idea in the 30's because of the technological requirements. right now it's not that "out there" because the gap between what we currently have and what we want to achieve isn't nearly as large as it would have been in the 30's.
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it's kinda good that it covers redhat 6.2. all the desktops here run 7.1 but our servers are still running 6.2.
why? because while 7.1 is fairly nice and it supports alot more required by workstation users it's stability is still questionable in my mind. 6.2 has most of the bugs worked out and i would imagine more people are useing it on servers than 7.1. so your book is still valid for those who want to setup a stable fileserver/nis/firewall/etc using redhat.
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while i appreciate your enilghtened viewpoint, you should also realize that the quality of a distro is irrelevent if they cannot pay the bills. i'm sorry you had a bad expirence with mandrake. i personally cannot comment on it-i tried mandrake out once a couple years ago. for every distro there is at least one person who has had a good expirence and one person who hasn't.
there are alot of people on slashdot that bash other distros. i personally think the only people who have an opinion that matters is someone who creates a distro. a person who creates and maintains a distro has an understanding of what that process is like and can make an informed decision on what is and is not utter CRAP. so mandrake didnt work out for you, thats nice. i really dont think they want people like yourself as a customer. personally i would prefer customers with level heads and a little reason.
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actually right after the ipo might be a good time for acquisitions. if suse has alot of tools that can be adapted to enhance mandrake it might be a good idea. after the ipo mandrake should have alot of capital and will need something to invest in.
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it's not so much hero worship, but exposure. dont you know noone reads these days :). however almost everyone has a cdplayer, and most people reading /. know what to do with an mp3.
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the alternative tentacles label carries alot of spoken word stuff from noam chomsky. they even have some sample mp3's you can download to see what he has to say.
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that was the text from the review. i didnt mean to misrepresent it as my own. i havent used slackware since '95.
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When the Slackware Linux project was cut loose from its parent company in April many devoted users wondered if the project would continue. Patrick Volkerding vowed it would. Despite the upheaval that accompanied what amounted to corporate abandonment, Volkerding and the team made good on that promise. On June 28, 2001, Slackware Linux Release 8.0 was made available. It is a very current distribution in terms of most of the component versions. Both kernels 2.4.5 and 2.2.19, glibc 2.2.3, KDE 2.1.2, Gnome 1.4, XFree86 4.1.0, and Samba 2.2 are among the major items. Two retail packaged versions will soon be available; one with and the other without the companion book, Slackware Essentials, for $39.99 and $49.99, respectively. The downloadable version on which this review is based comprises three CD's in ISO format.
The first is a bootable install CD. For those whose systems are incapable of booting to a CD-ROM device, floppy bootdisk images and utilities are included. The second CD contains extra packages including additional window managers, ham radio packages such as the excellent F6FBB packet radio BBS, a mirror of the Slackware online book, Linux HOW-TO's, FAQ's, and Zipslack which allows installation of a small installation of Slackware on a DOS partition or Zip disk. The third CD contains the sources.
For puposes of this review I installed Slackware 8.0 on a freshly wiped hard drive. The hardware configuration can be viewed here.
The setup utility is text based, which seems like an anachronism in these days of fancy graphical installers. Potential users should not be put off because the utility is very easy to use and walks you through each step. The install disk includes fdisk and the excellent menu driven cfdisk for drive partitioning. If the drive is not already partitioned, the setup utility exits to a command prompt where the partitioning software must be run. Once complete, typing setup at the prompt puts you back into the setup utility where you select the partitions, select the mount points, and format them.
Setup asks for the source from which the packages will be installed, which seems a little strange since the installation was booted from the CD.
Once the source is selected setup then asks for the type of installation and groups of packages. Selecting the default installation types (such as "full") will install kernel 2.2.19 as the default kernel. If you intend to use kernel 2.4.5 or have a SCSI based system there are special considerations which are only vaguely touched upon in the documentation. If that's what you want go here for a little help.
Once setup is finished installing packages it will ask if you want to configure LILO, a modem, basic networking (it correctly identified and installed the module for my Realtek 8139 based NIC), and finally prompt the user to press Ctrl-Alt-Delete to restart the system.
Slackware 8.0 does not use a graphical login manager. Login is done through the console, though users may manually configure a graphical login manager should they desire. After login entering startx at the prompt will invoke the GUI. The default is KDE which was fine with me since I like KDE. This is easily changed (go here for how) for those who prefer something else.
It did not install the driver modules for my soundcard requiring me to manually edit one configuration file. (Go here to read what worked for me.)
I consider my user experience level with Linux to be somewhere shy of intermediate. But I remember installing Slackware Linux several years ago from floppy disks whose images took several hours to download over the blazing fast 14.4kbps connection I was using at the time. I did it on encouragement from a friend who suggested it would be easy. At the time it wasn't. It took me over two weeks before I got everything to work right. How things have changed.
but have you considered some of the firewall boxes made by linksys and netgear? the linksys boxes cost between 140 and 200 (USD). the 200$ one has wireless capability.
i've setup ipmasq and messed around with the trinityos firewall script. i've also played with the premade linksys firewall. if you need some service that the prebuilt boxes cannot provide i can understand. if you are wanting to use linux just to "use" linux i really think you should look into something prepackaged. they are inexpensive with respect to money and time.
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I can't imagine that they didn't think as hard about security as Apache or Linux for example.
i'm not bashing microsoft here, but the windows3.1/95/98/nt/etc os's originated from dos which is a single user operating system. there were no concerns made with respect to security when dos was originally placed on the market. because of the application base dos had the various windowsxxx's that have come along had to be backwards compatable with dos programs. as a result you have this pseudomultiuser platform that implements security as an afterthought. see for example this article about windows xp.
on the other hand linux is based on unix, which microsoft trashes for being 30 year old technology, but this technology has had 30 years to iron out alot of the security issues. unix was also designed with multiple users in mind which affects everything from file access to memory allocation.
so in essance linux, via unix, has had alot more thought put into security than microsoft. as a result of linux being open alot of the security issues can be addressed by its users. because microsoft is closed the poor iis administrators have to sitback while their boxen are DOS'ed and wait for a patch to arrive. its sad really.
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hey i'm not too good at math but:
700*8/(10*60) = 9.33 megabits/sec.
if you are getting 9.3mb/sec you could setup a nice web hosting/colocation business in your house. you should really consider this as an additional source of income. a t1 is 1.5mb/s so you are effectively getting 6 t1's through you cable modem. i'm plugged into internet 2 here at school and i cannot even get that kinda speed!
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funny when i read your post i thought you ment that google took information from an objective database selected by an objecctive algorithm. so, there is one person out there on the net that agrees with you-at least on this issue.
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explosives, or other relatively sophisticated weaponry.
what is so sophisticated about diesel fuel and fertilizer? really there are alot of explosives that are cheap and easy to make. a simple google search will provied instructions on how to construct such devices. you can even purchase the books online if you cannot make it down the library.
really though if someone wants you dead there isnt much you can do to stop them especially if you are not aware of their desire. banning guns treats the symptom and not the problem. the only solution that involves banning stuff is to ban everything. the only way to stop people from violating the rights of others is to strap everyone to a bed at birth and not allow them to come into contact with others.
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first where did you get the numbers? second do you have the numbers for the number of people knifed to death? jumped off bridgets?
this comes back to the statistics thing again. you are trying to make inferences based on two numbers. these two numbers dont even come close to fully describing the situation in either country. by this i mean: in the us a gun may be the tool of choice for suicide. in the uk and else where it might be drugs, or sliting ones wrist. if the people are going to kill themselves either way the method doesnt really matter. this is true for any type of violent crime. thats why i dont think you can make inferential stantments based on the statistics you have put forward.
the next piece of reasoning might be wasted on people who are not from the us. the constitution is written in such a manner that makes this country pseudodemocratic. the constitution states that we have certain rights and legislation is reserved for those issues that are not explicitly mentioned. since the right to bare arms is explicitly mentioned, that removes it from the realm (or should remove it from) of legislation.
there is a mechanism in place to remove this right. it is possible to amend the constitution, but i doubt the democrats will be able to pull enough republicans over to the cause on this issue. amending the constitution was made diffacult intentionally to preserve the rights we do have.
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The fact is you are far less likely to be killed during a crime in Britain then in the USA. Are you safer in the USA or in Britain? Which one has guns?
some day you will take a statistics class and realize that you cannot make causical assumptions from statistical data. if the only thing that happened in the us and britan was crime, and the only difference between the crimes was one person used a gun you might have a case.
take for example drunk driving. this claims many lives each year. i dont think you will argue that we have alot more land mass here in the us and as a result more people own cars. also on average we drive farther each day. so because you are more likely be killed during a crime in the us are you safer in britan? which one has more cars?
conclusion.. we must now ban all cars.
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The next time someone breaks into my house they are highly unlikely to be carrying a gun, because I live in a society that isn't obsessed with them.
thats fine. if someone were to break into my house they would be greatly slowed down by a bullet weather or not they had a gun. see how this works? as an example look at south africa. in the last couple years they passed laws banning guns. now the only people who have guns are the criminals.
you really dont understand the colonies comment? you do realize that at one point in time britan controlled the us colonies and abused them to the point where they had to remove the british. here in the us we refer to that as the revolutionary war. to prevent the citizens from being rolled over by the government, the right to bear arms was written into our constitution. that is why i find it humorous when a person from britan comments on how we have an irrational desire to have the right to bear arms.
The problems with laws ALLOWING guns is you end up with one of the highest gun shot deaths per capita. Britain has something like 1/1000 of the PER CAPITA death by gunshots compared to the USA. Why? Because people don't have guns. What is it you can't understand about that?
vague numbers, do you have any references?
do you really think that if someone wants to kill alot of people not having a gun will stop them? honestly if i wanted to kill alot of people i could make explosives from common chemicals that would make the worst school shooting to date look harmless.
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There are plenty of guns available for target shooting only purposes, but these don't seem to be the type of gun people want to own. Odd.
yeah the next time somone breaks into your house ask them if they will hold a target for you. also keep in mind, in the US the right to bare arms is intrinsically link to the distrust of governemnt. the government is less likely to try to opress an armed populace.
i remember after one of those school shootings somone on cnn was interviewing a person from britan. the lady said she couldnt understand why americans think we need guns. i guess she forgot all about the colonies. after the series of school stabbings in japan they are going to have to ban knives.
the problem with laws banning things like guns and root kits is there are already laws banning their abuse. we already have legislation for murder and computer crimes. passing more laws is a silly thing to do. people who murder obviously dont have anything aginst breaking the law. the same with people who go around rooting boxen.
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think about that when you see someone driving that SUV.
:)
i do think about that whenever i see someone driving an suv. personally i ride a bike or take a bus. recent events with the ford explorer and the jeep grand cherokee have made me question the exsistance of a god. could he be striking down the yuppies? i hope so
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at first gnome was created because basically kde wasnt free as in speech. now that they are both free why should kde try to match gnome when they are creating things like mono. hell if it's open kde can use mono.. i know you're probably thinking... that would make sense. it's just a thought.
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