Before anyone else gets the wrong idea, you should really watch this video, which explains why Twitch has become so big: Why we watch
It was a response to a really biased report on this by the BBC.
This is more than just "a bunch of nerds watching people play games".
I think the gamer market will keep the desktop model alive and well for a while. Most serious PC gamers want to build their own machine. Though the "one mobile device to do all" approach will certainly be a big thing eventually.
I'm using archlinux with Awesome WM, a tiling window manager. The width of my screen allows me to have a tall window on the left, where the main file I'm working on is, while keeping two terminal windows open on the right for various uses. The width of my screen is being fully used.:) Also, none of the things you said invalidate what I wrote. Are there still some things you need desktops to do? Yup. Unless you've found a good way to develop software on a tablet... Or play games at high resolution and 120 fps. Or do video processing. Or write novels. Or make spreadsheets. You get the point. People need to do these things, so they need desktops. If anything, you're basically making an argument for why the year of the linux desktop is close: Microsoft no longer respects the desktop, but it is still very important to linux.
I disagree. Fridges haven't really been getting any better for a while, but no one claims that industry is dead. You'll have to buy new desktops because like everything else, they'll eventually stop working. And I wouldn't be so quick to say extra power will never be needed. The average computer has been fully capable of doing all tasks the average user needs to get done for a quite a few years now, but they keep getting stronger anyway. That's because you can find new things to do with that power. And of course, work computers or gaming computers can absolutely make use of extra power. Finally, companies can still work to make computers more silent or power efficient. I think there's still room. What we'ere seeing is a diversification of ways to interact with technology, which inevitably means a reduction of market share for the older products, but as long as these products are still needed, the industry will be in good shape.
I'm not sure why people are looking for a cause. It's obvious why Linux isn't number one: momentum. Windows managed to grab a dominating share of the market first, and it's going to take a lot to change that. This is true in any industry. Linux will only be #1 on desktop if the others really screw things up. Most people don't choose an OS based on their merits, they just buy a computer and use the OS it came with cause it works. There won't be a "year of the linux desktop". There might be, however, a year of the "OK this time Microsoft has really dropped the ball".
I'm always puzzled to see these kinds of posts. Do you do your work on a tablet? "Desktop is dead!" is a lame cliche the media came up with that everyone can parrot to show how "knowledgeable" they are about the industry, when a simple inspection of the facts shows desktops aren't going away any time soon. I'm writing this from a desktop, with a confortable mechanical keyboard, a good mouse and a widescreen monitor, cause that's what you need if you want to get shit done.
That Schrier guys actually posts on NeoGAF, a gaming forum, and he complains that people won't let him live this down, even though he later apologized. The "apology" was basically one line of "ok, I shouldn't have called the artist a hormonal teenager, but..." and then he just talks about how right he is. Personally I'm glad to see people lose credibility in the long term for their clickbaiting. Games are starting to be important enough that people discuss them as art and talk about their social impact, we don't need people destroying the discussion by shouting their poorly-reasoned opinions to get more clicks.
It's honestly really nice. Usually these kinds of discussions are dominated by people loudly making appeals to emotion, but here, it's mostly reasonable comments that are visible. I'd say it also has a lot to do with the kind of people who visit this site.
The fact that they are openly celebrating this is quite disgusting and removes any credibility they might have had.
Yeah, put me in the camp of people who aren't going to cry if people stop visiting this site.
Your post makes me sad. I have been adding --ignore skype to my package manager update commands since version 4.3 requires you to have pulseaudio. I game on my machine and pulseaudio causes issues in multiple games, so I'm not about to install that. Especially since pulseaudio is such a pain when it comes to starting on its own. I'll stick with ALSA. I guess that means I'm going to have to uninstall skype. Will use the tablet until I can convince people to use another solution...
So basically, damn you Microsoft for trying to force me to use pulseaudio! ALSA was doing a perfect job, not sure why they dropped support.
Yes, I should have added "proprietary" in there. Although we should still be vigilant even with open source, it's very realistic I think that they might be trying to subtly add vulnerabilities to open source software.
Good point. How can anyone trust hardware and software coming from the states? Although when it comes to software, I'm sure that the NSA's people will be quite busy with trying to find security holes into whatever the Chinese decide to go with.
Up to now, they've been banning proprietary products for the benefit of more open ones. I know that we like to show China as a country with isolationist tendencies, but I'm not sure the glove fits on this one. I don't think choosing not to get screwed by Microsoft or Apple is such a bad thing.
The wiki for Archlinux is pretty much the best source of information on the web for linux, as far as I'm concerned. It's valuable even if you're not running Archlinux, with detailed guides for configuration of many FOSS programs.
Do I really have to explain to you that the word freeloader is pejorative?
Also, don't do that "quote piece by piece" thing. It prevents you from seeing the big picture and basically pigeonholes you into nitpicking. Every question you asked is answered in the comment I already made, if you take it as a whole. There's a reason this is frowned upon in forums.
You weren't kidding. I just downloaded gedit just to see. There's one option button. You can basically open files, save files, print them, hilight syntax, find and replace and see document statistics. That's certainly... spartan.
The problem is your claim that vim is the lowest common denominator.
You could certainly argue, if you wanted, that vim is too obtuse for the majority of users, that its learning curve is so steep as to render it useless for most of them. But you can't deny that vim is powerful. Someone who masters vim will get the job done faster, by virtue of almost every command being just one keystroke away. The speed gained from being able to format large sections of text in just a few keystrokes is very noticeable.
There will always be room for options that are harder to master but rewarding once mastery is achieved. vim is that option. I don't see what's wrong with that.
I honestly don't think they have any duty to give back any more than they're doing now. Do you donate 100$ everytime you install linux on a computer? Cause that's what it would have cost you otherwise. I know for sure that almost no one does.
It's nice if they decide to give back but they have no responsability to do so. The whole concept of "freeloaders" is laughable to be honest. I thought one of the primary visions behind FLOSS was that information should be free? I guess if you view open source as merely a means to an end, you might think such a thing as a freeloader could exist, but I completely disagree with that vision.
The very first line of the summary says they're making available their own custom distro. So they're obviously not free loaders. FFS, I know that most people don't RTFA, but at least RTFS before bitching.
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Before anyone else gets the wrong idea, you should really watch this video, which explains why Twitch has become so big: Why we watch It was a response to a really biased report on this by the BBC. This is more than just "a bunch of nerds watching people play games".
I think the gamer market will keep the desktop model alive and well for a while. Most serious PC gamers want to build their own machine. Though the "one mobile device to do all" approach will certainly be a big thing eventually.
I'm using archlinux with Awesome WM, a tiling window manager. The width of my screen allows me to have a tall window on the left, where the main file I'm working on is, while keeping two terminal windows open on the right for various uses. The width of my screen is being fully used. :) Also, none of the things you said invalidate what I wrote. Are there still some things you need desktops to do? Yup. Unless you've found a good way to develop software on a tablet... Or play games at high resolution and 120 fps. Or do video processing. Or write novels. Or make spreadsheets. You get the point. People need to do these things, so they need desktops. If anything, you're basically making an argument for why the year of the linux desktop is close: Microsoft no longer respects the desktop, but it is still very important to linux.
I disagree. Fridges haven't really been getting any better for a while, but no one claims that industry is dead. You'll have to buy new desktops because like everything else, they'll eventually stop working. And I wouldn't be so quick to say extra power will never be needed. The average computer has been fully capable of doing all tasks the average user needs to get done for a quite a few years now, but they keep getting stronger anyway. That's because you can find new things to do with that power. And of course, work computers or gaming computers can absolutely make use of extra power. Finally, companies can still work to make computers more silent or power efficient. I think there's still room. What we'ere seeing is a diversification of ways to interact with technology, which inevitably means a reduction of market share for the older products, but as long as these products are still needed, the industry will be in good shape.
I am getting shit done! Correcting people who are wrong on the internet is a noble and worthy endeavour. :p
I'm not sure why people are looking for a cause. It's obvious why Linux isn't number one: momentum. Windows managed to grab a dominating share of the market first, and it's going to take a lot to change that. This is true in any industry. Linux will only be #1 on desktop if the others really screw things up. Most people don't choose an OS based on their merits, they just buy a computer and use the OS it came with cause it works. There won't be a "year of the linux desktop". There might be, however, a year of the "OK this time Microsoft has really dropped the ball".
I'm always puzzled to see these kinds of posts. Do you do your work on a tablet? "Desktop is dead!" is a lame cliche the media came up with that everyone can parrot to show how "knowledgeable" they are about the industry, when a simple inspection of the facts shows desktops aren't going away any time soon. I'm writing this from a desktop, with a confortable mechanical keyboard, a good mouse and a widescreen monitor, cause that's what you need if you want to get shit done.
The problem is that most people selected would probably lack the expertise required to deal with matters of law.
That Schrier guys actually posts on NeoGAF, a gaming forum, and he complains that people won't let him live this down, even though he later apologized. The "apology" was basically one line of "ok, I shouldn't have called the artist a hormonal teenager, but..." and then he just talks about how right he is. Personally I'm glad to see people lose credibility in the long term for their clickbaiting. Games are starting to be important enough that people discuss them as art and talk about their social impact, we don't need people destroying the discussion by shouting their poorly-reasoned opinions to get more clicks.
It's honestly really nice. Usually these kinds of discussions are dominated by people loudly making appeals to emotion, but here, it's mostly reasonable comments that are visible. I'd say it also has a lot to do with the kind of people who visit this site.
Even if it weren't, you know what it means, so clearly this non-word is doing its job.
The fact that they are openly celebrating this is quite disgusting and removes any credibility they might have had. Yeah, put me in the camp of people who aren't going to cry if people stop visiting this site.
So, does Betteridge's law of headlines apply here?
Yup, the NSA is insane or stupid if they think people will trust this.
Your post makes me sad. I have been adding --ignore skype to my package manager update commands since version 4.3 requires you to have pulseaudio. I game on my machine and pulseaudio causes issues in multiple games, so I'm not about to install that. Especially since pulseaudio is such a pain when it comes to starting on its own. I'll stick with ALSA. I guess that means I'm going to have to uninstall skype. Will use the tablet until I can convince people to use another solution... So basically, damn you Microsoft for trying to force me to use pulseaudio! ALSA was doing a perfect job, not sure why they dropped support.
Yes, I should have added "proprietary" in there. Although we should still be vigilant even with open source, it's very realistic I think that they might be trying to subtly add vulnerabilities to open source software.
Good point. How can anyone trust hardware and software coming from the states? Although when it comes to software, I'm sure that the NSA's people will be quite busy with trying to find security holes into whatever the Chinese decide to go with.
Up to now, they've been banning proprietary products for the benefit of more open ones. I know that we like to show China as a country with isolationist tendencies, but I'm not sure the glove fits on this one. I don't think choosing not to get screwed by Microsoft or Apple is such a bad thing.
The wiki for Archlinux is pretty much the best source of information on the web for linux, as far as I'm concerned. It's valuable even if you're not running Archlinux, with detailed guides for configuration of many FOSS programs.
Do I really have to explain to you that the word freeloader is pejorative? Also, don't do that "quote piece by piece" thing. It prevents you from seeing the big picture and basically pigeonholes you into nitpicking. Every question you asked is answered in the comment I already made, if you take it as a whole. There's a reason this is frowned upon in forums.
You weren't kidding. I just downloaded gedit just to see. There's one option button. You can basically open files, save files, print them, hilight syntax, find and replace and see document statistics. That's certainly... spartan.
The problem is your claim that vim is the lowest common denominator. You could certainly argue, if you wanted, that vim is too obtuse for the majority of users, that its learning curve is so steep as to render it useless for most of them. But you can't deny that vim is powerful. Someone who masters vim will get the job done faster, by virtue of almost every command being just one keystroke away. The speed gained from being able to format large sections of text in just a few keystrokes is very noticeable. There will always be room for options that are harder to master but rewarding once mastery is achieved. vim is that option. I don't see what's wrong with that.
I honestly don't think they have any duty to give back any more than they're doing now. Do you donate 100$ everytime you install linux on a computer? Cause that's what it would have cost you otherwise. I know for sure that almost no one does. It's nice if they decide to give back but they have no responsability to do so. The whole concept of "freeloaders" is laughable to be honest. I thought one of the primary visions behind FLOSS was that information should be free? I guess if you view open source as merely a means to an end, you might think such a thing as a freeloader could exist, but I completely disagree with that vision.
The very first line of the summary says they're making available their own custom distro. So they're obviously not free loaders. FFS, I know that most people don't RTFA, but at least RTFS before bitching.
I actually find some of Linus' tirades to be pretty hilarious. He supposedly only does this to hardened veterans, so it's not that bad.