You wouldn't run your servers without redundancy and backup, right? Well guess what, you have a BIG hole in you redundancy and backup plan, right in the critical path! _YOU_
OK, I know it cliche, but what if you got hit by a bus on the way to work tomorrow?
Folks, I was a young programmer when I got hit with a Gall Bladder problem. I had to have surgery, and was out for well over a week (and it could have been longer). What would your boss do then?
Your right, if you ask too much, they MAY plan to move the cable, but...
There is a fairly famous story about one of the MAJOR Western RRs (UP if I remember right) that had a probelm like this. SOMEONE figured out where the railroad HAD to go before the land was bought, and bought a small parcel of land (like a few dozen acres), and put in a "Railroad", consisteing of 2 lengths of rail, on ties (aka, 39 feet of track), and built ONE railroad car on it.
The person who did that got VERY rich, as the railroad could NOT claim eminent domain, as there was an existing railroad there! They HAD to pay up!
I really think that the most important OOP benefits of OOP in order are:
1)Information Hiding
and
2) Polymorphism
For instance, were I work, we have standardized on certain method names. Want an object to populate itself from the database? Call it's GetData method. Want it to save itself? Call PutData. We've also standardized that each object tells IT'S children to populate/save THEMSELVES. Want to save your whole data tree? Tell the root node "PutData", and your whole tree will walk itself and save.
No object has to know how to save it's children, it just says to the child "Save Yourself".
We get programmers up to speed on new projects QUICKLY, because the know the basic methods of all our classes.
Can you do this in a procedural language? Of course you can, but it's easier in an OOPL.
Re:I largely disagree with what he's saying...
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As some once said
when someone says "It's for the Children", watch your rights and your wallet, because one or the other is under attack.
With the straw men he setup, I really surprised he didn't add "And subversive RIGHT WING gun groups use the net to exchange information"
Right now, gun ownership seems to be a short step behind pedophilia on America's most hated
Well, I'd say that a mass market novel has more reach than any one web site, so we should start with novels, right?
How many people believe what they read in novels? (Think Tom Clancy) How about TV (Star Trek). They reach many more people than even the most popular web sites, and a lot of people believe in them.
Perhaps the answer is for use to teach people to THINK. Maybe going back to teaching the Trivium? Heck, most people wouldn't know logic or retoric if it hit them on the head.
with build being and ever increasing number (sort of like the Microsoft build numbers) Major changes with major new releases/functionality, Minor is for fixes and small feature changes
As a railfan, I still think it won't pay. Sea shipping is TOO cheap, and is MORE than fast enough! Remember, the reason container cargo gets transshipped across the US ("The Land Ships") is that the trip down to Panama and back north takes TIME, and you can only use Panamax ships.
Vancouver or Okland to Tokyo is a 10 day trip, which is about what they get Tokyo to Dunkerque with a US Tranship
I know that we had two minor failures on live systems where I work. No big deal.
The BIG news is/was that we kept some of the old systems (Non Y2K) up for the roll over, just to see what would happen - We would have been in BIG trouble - a lot of the systems that were replaced crashed big time
I carry a multitool, but it's a LAST resort kinda thing. I built a tool kit. I dug up an old, empty Jensen Tool case ( http://www.jensentools.com )and stocked it with the tools I wanted.
5 in 1 screwdriver
GOOD needle nose pliers
good pair of diagnal cutters (mid sized)
a pair of flush cutters
a small soldering iron, solder, a jar of flux
desolder braid
flashlight
a couple of cylume sticks
an excelite nut driver set
a BUNCH of misc stainless hardware in both Imperial and Metric sizes
Regular pair of "plumbers" pliers
small cheap multimeter
a KNIFE
some tie wraps
electrical tape
I normally carry a "Pocket Ref" or I'd add that too.
Yeh, it's to big to carry all the time (it's about 8x11x2) but it fits im my bottom left desk drawer. If I need a tool and I'm at my desk, or a reasonable distance, I'll grab the case. Multitools are overrated
That said, the most important tool I carry, EVERYWHERE, is a SHARP knife
Actually, they CAN'T release it under GPL! Huh? It's worse (better?) than that - It's public domain! We PAID for it.
There are other government groups that talk about this. There is a Linux probram called EMC (Enhanced Machine Controler) that has been let out by the government, and there was a whole discussion of the GPL issue, and they said "We can't GPL it, we MUST Public domain it"
Yes, it's great to be smug about how much money you're making, but did you ever stop to consider that you're really not worth that?
Actually, he is worth that - for now. As you said, the market force rules, and market force, for now, makes him worth more than a teacher.
I always get a kick out of the "Should a garbage man earn more than a teacher" question. The answer is, if we can hire a GOOD teacher for less money than a garbage man - yes they should!
Broaden your skill base.
Now, to be honest, I'm one of those guys who never got his college degree. After 3 years, I hated what I was studying. I went out and took some electronics training, and left. I've gone back to school, and have enough credits to have a degree if I took the courses they wanted me to take. People at work are always shocked when I tell them I never finished my degree.
Sigh, when I get time, I might go get a degree in something. Right now, I'm too busy learning stuff!
Way back when, 3 or 4 years ago, I was a member of a couple of virtual communites that really existed!
I'm going to use the past tense, because the forums on Compuserve are as good as dead
Where were they? Compuserve. Compuserve had some real advantages over everything I've seen on the net so far.
1)A Forum consisted of sections. These sections were usually dedicated to a sub topic of the main forum. Off topic threads could be MOVED, but, if a message was addressed to you in ANY section, you were notified when you entered. There were one or more sysops (admins - sort of), who kept the forum on topic. It was like visting their home - they set the rules. Some forums were anything goes, some were heavly censored. Almost every forum had a "Pub" type section where off topic stuff went
2)Because everyone was logging into the same set of servers, there was no delay in messages, so threading software worked really well
3)Because this was before the internet explosion, the active membership was usually kinda low - like 20-75 people. It was possible to get to know everyone there, particularly in the pub
4)Because there was controlled access (Remember, you were paying Compuserve every month), it was possible to "lock out" or ban people who caused problems. It was rare. In the 15+ years I had a CIS account, I only saw it done 2-3 times. If a person started spamming the system, Compuserve could kick them off, and it was HARD to get back on - Remember, you have to give them a credit card
5)Because this was before the Internet boom, it was really a self selecting group. Everyone was cutting edge with computers. How many people had modems back in 1980? And were willing to send email/do BBS stuff? - and pay a fairly large amount of cash to do it?
I have friends who I talk to all the time (just got off the phone with one) that I gained from Compuserve. I miss it. The closest thing I've seen on the net are some of the SMALL mailing lists, and believe it or not....
Slashdot, particularly back when it was somewhat smaller. I just wish there was a way to find out if there were messages to YOU (Not just replies)
OK, They have been selling one meter images for a couple of years, and now have the OK to sell half meter. New sat? Or has the old one been capabile of 1/2 meter all along, and we've been getting downgraded pics?
It's POSSIBLE that other countries have higher resolution stuff, BUT it can ONLY be one of a hand full. Remember, the club that can launch a satelite to orbit is kinda small.
Let's see:
Nasa and other US based companies (the one that launches of the 747)
RE GE and making "stuff" - The spun most of that off last year, back into a company called Westinghouse
Sigh
Re:A solution? Yes. To the wrong problem.
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What you are discussing, in monitoring that A talks to B is called "traffic analysis", and encryption does nothing to get around this - HOWEVER, there ARE ways around traffic analysis. Some examples?
1)Blind drops - Things like the anon news groups - Let's say that you want to send a message to Mary. Mary KNOWS to check the drop, say, every other day for a message with the subject:
98hy45hj9ljh (which is changed every time inside the encrypted message)
Mary downloads the message (and probably a BUNCH of others - EVERY message in the drop works ) Now all they have is that you posted a message out to the drop. It'd be really hard to figure out everyone who downloaded that message from every usenet server in the world.
Another way to make traffic analysis harder is to post "Noise". You send out email to a random n% of you mailing list (and probably some to people who have NO idea who you are). Most of these emails don't contain anything but random noise Your contacts are doing the same. Now you want to send an email - You put your real email into the cue, and the next time that person comes up in the n%, you put your message in, instead of the mail. Now you could also force the message to be in the next batch, BUT if you do this often, you start to end up with a non random pattern that can be cracked
Another way around this is a DC net - I wish someone would finally get one of these working
Yep,
The have the right! Ever READ the license agreement you signed? Buy ONE thing from them (or down load one thing etc) and they can come in and look. It's rare, but they do
All the vote reports come in from an outfit called VNS - At first they reported bad data to the networks, leading to a Gore Call in Florida. It was pulled back (ABC First). The question then came down to - did the data that VNS was reporting include the absentee ballots or not (we were not sure). Before we got an answer, Fox made the call. We had (Internally) been saying "If it includes the absentee ballots, it's over"
Slashdot Mirror
No,
Light IN a vacuum moves at a MAXIMUM of C - It CAN and does move slower, especally in other mediums.
I also agree with Clif.
You wouldn't run your servers without redundancy and backup, right? Well guess what, you have a BIG hole in you redundancy and backup plan, right in the critical path! _YOU_
OK, I know it cliche, but what if you got hit by a bus on the way to work tomorrow?
Folks, I was a young programmer when I got hit with a Gall Bladder problem. I had to have surgery, and was out for well over a week (and it could have been longer). What would your boss do then?
Time to get a backup, and TAKE your vacation!
Your right, if you ask too much, they MAY plan to move the cable, but...
There is a fairly famous story about one of the MAJOR Western RRs (UP if I remember right) that had a probelm like this. SOMEONE figured out where the railroad HAD to go before the land was bought, and bought a small parcel of land (like a few dozen acres), and put in a "Railroad", consisteing of 2 lengths of rail, on ties (aka, 39 feet of track), and built ONE railroad car on it.
The person who did that got VERY rich, as the railroad could NOT claim eminent domain, as there was an existing railroad there! They HAD to pay up!
I really think that the most important OOP benefits of OOP in order are:
1)Information Hiding
and
2) Polymorphism
For instance, were I work, we have standardized on certain method names. Want an object to populate itself from the database? Call it's GetData method. Want it to save itself? Call PutData. We've also standardized that each object tells IT'S children to populate/save THEMSELVES. Want to save your whole data tree? Tell the root node "PutData", and your whole tree will walk itself and save.
No object has to know how to save it's children, it just says to the child "Save Yourself".
We get programmers up to speed on new projects QUICKLY, because the know the basic methods of all our classes.
Can you do this in a procedural language? Of course you can, but it's easier in an OOPL.
As some once said
when someone says "It's for the Children", watch your rights and your wallet, because one or the other is under attack.
With the straw men he setup, I really surprised he didn't add "And subversive RIGHT WING gun groups use the net to exchange information"
Right now, gun ownership seems to be a short step behind pedophilia on America's most hated
Below is a letter I sent to Salon
Well, I'd say that a mass market novel has more reach than any one web site, so we should start with novels, right?
How many people believe what they read in novels? (Think Tom Clancy) How about TV (Star Trek). They reach many more people than even the most popular web sites, and a lot of people believe in them.
Perhaps the answer is for use to teach people to THINK. Maybe going back to teaching the Trivium? Heck, most people wouldn't know logic or retoric if it hit them on the head.
At work, we've gone to:
Major.Minor.Build
with build being and ever increasing number (sort of like the Microsoft build numbers) Major changes with major new releases/functionality, Minor is for fixes and small feature changes
As a railfan, I still think it won't pay. Sea shipping is TOO cheap, and is MORE than fast enough! Remember, the reason container cargo gets transshipped across the US ("The Land Ships") is that the trip down to Panama and back north takes TIME, and you can only use Panamax ships.
Vancouver or Okland to Tokyo is a 10 day trip, which is about what they get Tokyo to Dunkerque with a US Tranship
Not worth the money
I know that we had two minor failures on live systems where I work. No big deal.
The BIG news is/was that we kept some of the old systems (Non Y2K) up for the roll over, just to see what would happen - We would have been in BIG trouble - a lot of the systems that were replaced crashed big time
I carry a multitool, but it's a LAST resort kinda thing. I built a tool kit. I dug up an old, empty Jensen Tool case ( http://www.jensentools.com )and stocked it with the tools I wanted.
5 in 1 screwdriver
GOOD needle nose pliers
good pair of diagnal cutters (mid sized)
a pair of flush cutters
a small soldering iron, solder, a jar of flux
desolder braid
flashlight
a couple of cylume sticks
an excelite nut driver set
a BUNCH of misc stainless hardware in both Imperial and Metric sizes
Regular pair of "plumbers" pliers
small cheap multimeter
a KNIFE
some tie wraps
electrical tape
I normally carry a "Pocket Ref" or I'd add that too.
Yeh, it's to big to carry all the time (it's about 8x11x2) but it fits im my bottom left desk drawer. If I need a tool and I'm at my desk, or a reasonable distance, I'll grab the case. Multitools are overrated
That said, the most important tool I carry, EVERYWHERE, is a SHARP knife
You are, of course, right. Only the government employees part of the work is public domain.
Sigh
Charlie
Actually, they CAN'T release it under GPL! Huh? It's worse (better?) than that - It's public domain! We PAID for it.
There are other government groups that talk about this. There is a Linux probram called EMC (Enhanced Machine Controler) that has been let out by the government, and there was a whole discussion of the GPL issue, and they said "We can't GPL it, we MUST Public domain it"
Go to www.linuxcnc.org for more details!
Yes, it's great to be smug about how much money you're making, but did you ever stop to consider that you're really not worth that?
Actually, he is worth that - for now. As you said, the market force rules, and market force, for now, makes him worth more than a teacher.
I always get a kick out of the "Should a garbage man earn more than a teacher" question. The answer is, if we can hire a GOOD teacher for less money than a garbage man - yes they should! Broaden your skill base. Now, to be honest, I'm one of those guys who never got his college degree. After 3 years, I hated what I was studying. I went out and took some electronics training, and left. I've gone back to school, and have enough credits to have a degree if I took the courses they wanted me to take. People at work are always shocked when I tell them I never finished my degree. Sigh, when I get time, I might go get a degree in something. Right now, I'm too busy learning stuff!
Way back when, 3 or 4 years ago, I was a member of a couple of virtual communites that really existed!
I'm going to use the past tense, because the forums on Compuserve are as good as dead
Where were they? Compuserve. Compuserve had some real advantages over everything I've seen on the net so far.
1)A Forum consisted of sections. These sections were usually dedicated to a sub topic of the main forum. Off topic threads could be MOVED, but, if a message was addressed to you in ANY section, you were notified when you entered. There were one or more sysops (admins - sort of), who kept the forum on topic. It was like visting their home - they set the rules. Some forums were anything goes, some were heavly censored. Almost every forum had a "Pub" type section where off topic stuff went
2)Because everyone was logging into the same set of servers, there was no delay in messages, so threading software worked really well
3)Because this was before the internet explosion, the active membership was usually kinda low - like 20-75 people. It was possible to get to know everyone there, particularly in the pub
4)Because there was controlled access (Remember, you were paying Compuserve every month), it was possible to "lock out" or ban people who caused problems. It was rare. In the 15+ years I had a CIS account, I only saw it done 2-3 times. If a person started spamming the system, Compuserve could kick them off, and it was HARD to get back on - Remember, you have to give them a credit card
5)Because this was before the Internet boom, it was really a self selecting group. Everyone was cutting edge with computers. How many people had modems back in 1980? And were willing to send email/do BBS stuff? - and pay a fairly large amount of cash to do it?
I have friends who I talk to all the time (just got off the phone with one) that I gained from Compuserve. I miss it. The closest thing I've seen on the net are some of the SMALL mailing lists, and believe it or not....
Slashdot, particularly back when it was somewhat smaller. I just wish there was a way to find out if there were messages to YOU (Not just replies)
OK, They have been selling one meter images for a couple of years, and now have the OK to sell half meter. New sat? Or has the old one been capabile of 1/2 meter all along, and we've been getting downgraded pics?
It's POSSIBLE that other countries have higher resolution stuff, BUT it can ONLY be one of a hand full. Remember, the club that can launch a satelite to orbit is kinda small.
Let's see:
Nasa and other US based companies (the one that launches of the 747)
France
Russia
China
Japan
Did I leave anyone out?
Several hours? Mostly dial up? Yeah, right! I've got mail trickling in 2 to 4 DAYS late, and I'm a DSL customer
RE GE and making "stuff" - The spun most of that off last year, back into a company called Westinghouse
Sigh
What you are discussing, in monitoring that A talks to B is called "traffic analysis", and encryption does nothing to get around this - HOWEVER, there ARE ways around traffic analysis. Some examples?
1)Blind drops - Things like the anon news groups - Let's say that you want to send a message to Mary. Mary KNOWS to check the drop, say, every other day for a message with the subject:
98hy45hj9ljh (which is changed every time inside the encrypted message)
Mary downloads the message (and probably a BUNCH of others - EVERY message in the drop works ) Now all they have is that you posted a message out to the drop. It'd be really hard to figure out everyone who downloaded that message from every usenet server in the world.
Another way to make traffic analysis harder is to post "Noise". You send out email to a random n% of you mailing list (and probably some to people who have NO idea who you are). Most of these emails don't contain anything but random noise Your contacts are doing the same. Now you want to send an email - You put your real email into the cue, and the next time that person comes up in the n%, you put your message in, instead of the mail. Now you could also force the message to be in the next batch, BUT if you do this often, you start to end up with a non random pattern that can be cracked
Another way around this is a DC net - I wish someone would finally get one of these working
Doesn't anyone else find it funny that there are computer ads during Dune? (a culture that does not allow computers )
Does anyone here but me find it funny that SUN had all those ads during the Miniseries?
Yep,
The have the right! Ever READ the license agreement you signed? Buy ONE thing from them (or down load one thing etc) and they can come in and look. It's rare, but they do
Can we charge them for the USE of our computer? Say, $10/day/bit?
Send them a bill?
And you have just committed something like 3 or 4 felonies for your company. Nice move. You now get to be the girlfriend of a guy named Bubba
All the vote reports come in from an outfit called VNS - At first they reported bad data to the networks, leading to a Gore Call in Florida. It was pulled back (ABC First). The question then came down to - did the data that VNS was reporting include the absentee ballots or not (we were not sure). Before we got an answer, Fox made the call. We had (Internally) been saying "If it includes the absentee ballots, it's over"
Good night all, from the election desk