The thing to understand here is that if you are making use of someone else's property, you should expect to abide by the conditions imposed on its use.
The whole point is that the music is your property, and they are depriving you of your rights. You should be able to treat electronic property in the same way you can a book. Sell, lend but not copy.
This technology should be made illegal as it steals these rights from you.
We spend so much time reading dispositions, lawsuits, trials, anti-trust crap....
Considering the number of page views they get from us debating legal stuff we are probably ignorant about, can't they at least afford legal council for us?
No, Linux is not really useful for normal people. But if Office2000 was available for Linux I think you would be suprised how many people would be running it.
Why could Linux be useful for normal people? Because it doesn't take much to build a useful GUI. Note my checklist above. What percentage of Windows users would know what to do with the system properties diloge? How many have installed a new driver? How many have installed Windows? Not many. The actual GUI functionality that most users use is _very_ limited. Click on an icon, hit the window close button and navigate the filesystem with the open/close dialog. I belive our HCI profs would agree here.
Re. system configuration: My comments were in regards to a forward looking article. I don't suggest that users configure their computers in any significan fasion. Yes I, and our HCI profs, agree with you.
I'm running Debian, and doing all sorts of things _without_using_ bash (clear enough?). The author also has bash, but doesn't propagate the notion Mac/OS X has a "command line interface."
I have to disagree. Remember when the state of the art linux desktop consisted of fvwm, xterms, and a few really ugly X apps? Um, perhaps you and the author of the article should look up from your Apple computers, because things have changed.
Sure Apple has easier sys config, but that isn't out of reach for Linux a few years down the road. Obiously users just won't ever build their own kernel. And what the hell was the author talking about the command line for?!? I don't see any command line?
Hell while I'm ranting, windows confuses the hell out of my dad. "How do they keep installing that software on my desktop?", "Click, make a box around them, let go, left click on one of the icons... sorry select what? let me get a pen!" I don't expect that he will do well doing anything complex with any GUI. Sorry Apple.
The "average user" just needs "launch buttons", a web browser, a sane/simple window manager and productivity apps. We have to work on the last one, or well, Corel will do it for us.
Flash has a limited write lifespan. Journalling requires writing to the journal before every modification to the fs. Flash being very slow for writes makes this a major performance hit. . fsck doesn't need to make very many writes at all when fixing an insane drive. Recovery requires lots of reads, but the flash reads are fast and the drive is very small. This performance hit is nothing compared to doubling the already slow flash writes. . There are filesystems that do not leave the fs in an insane state by making only one modification at a time, and do not have this kind of overhead for regular use. The only case where the journal would give stability with better performance is deleting massive directory trees...
Some of us have ideals. And the world is better off for it.
So a few people get a little excited. I havn't seen anyone with a real stake and matches. Who made you Mr. Enlightened, or are you just trolling?
I think Caldera is just bitter because they can't make enough money off the GPL. There a coperation, can't blame 'em. But I don't see a need to give up my psudo-communist free stuff just to fatten their purse. And that resolve hardens when I consider what liscence to publish the results of my hard work under.
Remember, most of the new Linux users will spend their whole life running as their personal userid - and a virus will not need root access to their email, compromise their information and files and so on
Sorry, but a virus needs to be executed! And the package management system and therefore the installed programs will not be running as root.
To be effective a Linux viris needs a root exploit.
I like your attitude, but there is some irony in your use of a help wanted add to make your point.
Many people on Open Source malling lists are very intellegent, but you cannot refuse entry to those who you don't want to "hire." They will post hastily and sometimes beligerently. And in time they will get a better feel for the medium. Hopefully.
Sorry/. but it does depend on the number of participants. Less people helps the participants work out how to relate, and the trolls, well... arn't there.
As Corel Linux started as a recent fork of the Debian Project, Corel's relationship with Debian is highly indicative of the corporate world's ability to coexist with the Linux Community.
How would you describe the (sometimes tense) relationship your company has with that project? What is the future of that relationship?
And specifically, what is Corel doing to return the gains that the Debian community has provided your company?
[really, their worst mistake was building their corporate headquarters using that shiney gold reflective glass to cover the outside. The sun reflects off it and blinds you as you drive by it on the highway going east at sundown!]
Given Ottawa's freeways it really is dangerous. I think I'll add that the next time I feel the need to write Corel about their lack of understanding of GNU/Linux. Sigh.
It is a microkernel: Most of the components that are in the Linux kernel are seperate processes. This way components like the block filesystem support can be terminated and restarted without say interrupting the networking. And if the new block filesytem support segfaults - another version can be started. This is similar to support being developed with the HURD. In a way this is cheating; the actual micro kernel is not upgraded, because there is no need to. All it does is start and stop processes, and pass messages.
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This technology should be made illegal as it steals these rights from you.
Right, so when I buffer overflow your server, I don't have to worry about privlages, I can just happily delete everything on your system.
Wait, your trolling... ha ha ha. Nevermind. Duh.
We spend so much time reading dispositions, lawsuits, trials, anti-trust crap....
Considering the number of page views they get from us debating legal stuff we are probably ignorant about, can't they at least afford legal council for us?
No, Linux is not really useful for normal people. But if Office2000 was available for Linux I think you would be suprised how many people would be running it.
Why could Linux be useful for normal people? Because it doesn't take much to build a useful GUI. Note my checklist above. What percentage of Windows users would know what to do with the system properties diloge? How many have installed a new driver? How many have installed Windows? Not many. The actual GUI functionality that most users use is _very_ limited. Click on an icon, hit the window close button and navigate the filesystem with the open/close dialog. I belive our HCI profs would agree here.
Re. system configuration: My comments were in regards to a forward looking article. I don't suggest that users configure their computers in any significan fasion. Yes I, and our HCI profs, agree with you.
I'm running Debian, and doing all sorts of things _without_using_ bash (clear enough?). The author also has bash, but doesn't propagate the notion Mac/OS X has a "command line interface."
I have to disagree. Remember when the state of the art linux desktop consisted of fvwm, xterms, and a few really ugly X apps? Um, perhaps you and the author of the article should look up from your Apple computers, because things have changed.
Sure Apple has easier sys config, but that isn't out of reach for Linux a few years down the road. Obiously users just won't ever build their own kernel. And what the hell was the author talking about the command line for?!? I don't see any command line?
Hell while I'm ranting, windows confuses the hell out of my dad. "How do they keep installing that software on my desktop?", "Click, make a box around them, let go, left click on one of the icons... sorry select what? let me get a pen!" I don't expect that he will do well doing anything complex with any GUI. Sorry Apple.
The "average user" just needs "launch buttons", a web browser, a sane/simple window manager and productivity apps. We have to work on the last one, or well, Corel will do it for us.
Does the builtin web server have a cgi for credit cards? I wouldn't be surprised.
Flash has a limited write lifespan. Journalling requires writing to the journal before every modification to the fs. Flash being very slow for writes makes this a major performance hit.
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fsck doesn't need to make very many writes at all when fixing an insane drive. Recovery requires lots of reads, but the flash reads are fast and the drive is very small. This performance hit is nothing compared to doubling the already slow flash writes.
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There are filesystems that do not leave the fs in an insane state by making only one modification at a time, and do not have this kind of overhead for regular use. The only case where the journal would give stability with better performance is deleting massive directory trees...
Some of us have ideals. And the world is better off for it.
So a few people get a little excited. I havn't seen anyone with a real stake and matches. Who made you Mr. Enlightened, or are you just trolling?
I think Caldera is just bitter because they can't make enough money off the GPL. There a coperation, can't blame 'em. But I don't see a need to give up my psudo-communist free stuff just to fatten their purse. And that resolve hardens when I consider what liscence to publish the results of my hard work under.
Sorry, but a virus needs to be executed! And the package management system and therefore the installed programs will not be running as root.
To be effective a Linux viris needs a root exploit.
I like your attitude, but there is some irony in your use of a help wanted add to make your point.
/. but it does depend on the number of participants. Less people helps the participants work out how to relate, and the trolls, well... arn't there.
Many people on Open Source malling lists are very intellegent, but you cannot refuse entry to those who you don't want to "hire." They will post hastily and sometimes beligerently. And in time they will get a better feel for the medium. Hopefully.
Sorry
As Corel Linux started as a recent fork of the Debian Project, Corel's relationship with Debian is highly indicative of the corporate world's ability to coexist with the Linux Community.
How would you describe the (sometimes tense) relationship your company has with that project? What is the future of that relationship?
And specifically, what is Corel doing to return the gains that the Debian community has provided your company?
It is a microkernel: Most of the components that are in the Linux kernel are seperate processes. This way components like the block filesystem support can be terminated and restarted without say interrupting the networking. And if the new block filesytem support segfaults - another version can be started. This is similar to support being developed with the HURD. In a way this is cheating; the actual micro kernel is not upgraded, because there is no need to. All it does is start and stop processes, and pass messages.