My favorite quote from the reddit link you posted: "my tesla range dropped 1% in 10 months, assuming linear battery degradation I'll still be at 90% in ten years!" lol lol lol lol lol. I had a scrambled egg for breakfast 2 hrs ago, so by linear extension I'll eat 730 eggs this year!
also, there needs to be a new meme on slashdot, something similar to [citation needed], when somebody cites youtube and reddit in their post.
You want convenience? How about an MOT every 5 years instead of every year? EVs are incredibly simple, and have very few moving parts. They're as close to a solid state device as you're gonna get. Wouldn't surprise me to see the Teslas going for more than 50 years with very little servicing to speak of (apart from tyre changes, and window wipers).
I don't know what MOT means, but I do know that your $70k tesla will need $40k in new batteries in 5 years or else the range goes to shit. but yes, other than that, I imagine they could run for quite a long time.
efficiency is connected with costs in a loose way. But if we're going to talk about costs then why don't we just talk about costs? I don't know too much about cars, but I know two recent bus projects, where the battery bus fuel cost is $0.30/mi and the fuel cell bus fuel cost is $1.20/mi.
there. was that so hard? facts. we have cut efficiency out because it is a canard.
*so* *what*. Efficiency is meaningless. What means something is cost per mile. The cost of electricity and cost of hydrogen are completely decoupled from how they are made, so this "efficiency" calc has nothing to do with anything. please stop talking about it.
to be fair, the primary source of electricity is also fossil fuel, either nat gas or coal. so your high horse isn't as high as you think it is. yes, h2 has higher ghgs than electricity, but there's no economic cost to that and it's still lower than gasoline.
in terms of range, 80 mi is fine for most of my driving, but occasionally I need a car that can do a day trip from LA to San Diego (200 mi round trip), 90% of which is high speed highway, and I'm not going to sweat any range issues.
. There is one retort to the range claim of FCVs- FCV may have more range than an EV, but the car is also much more expensive. If you took an EV and added a tow box with enough battery packs to make the vehicles have comparable price, then the range comparison would be much different.
h2 is stored at 350 bar or 700 bar. a bit higher than cng at 260 bar (3600psi), but you just spec the tanks appropriately and inspect/replace them appropriately. Any small slow leaks go harmlessly into the air, jut need to watch where you park them. it seems fine to me, you just need precautions. like how you're not supposed to smoke at gas stations.
ty. a very interesting point, something I hadn't known about. The law review article has a relevant example. It gave the scenario of "Tom", a self-employed realtor who was choosing between a $50k Mercedes sedan and $50k mercedes ultra-suv. The loophole provided a $13k incentive for him to choose the SUV. However, your original quote of $25k is misleading, because Tom would also get a tax deduction (albeit a smaller one) for the mercedes sedan.
Efficiency is the most important factor in determining cost per mile. A car that requires four times as much electricity will have approximately four times the cost per mile. It will also cause four times the green-house gas emissions, assuming that the source of the electricity is the same.
don't go full retard! what about the costs of the primary fuel, dumb ass??? if you're comparing electricity to other sources, then it matters. photovoltaics are pretty darn inefficient, but sunlight is free so it's a wash. get it?
are you five? Have you ever even driven a car or owned one? You seem hot have no clue about weighing pros and cons or understanding the challenges new tech must overcome.
who can I tell? You lead with the main argument - EV cars are more efficient in terms of total energy per mile. You know what? nobody gives a crap! the three important things for hydrogen stations are cost per mile, fuel source, and GHGs. nobody cares about mathematical efficiencies.
you know what people do care about? range and convenience time. you know what's not convenient? recharging for four hours every 20 mins!
2. The myth that "you can't make money on open source" is a myth so debunked that you have entire industries built on it, from servers and supercomputers to cellphones and kids' toys.
nobody's making money in cell phones except for apple and sammy. but other than that, it's clear from your short list that nobody's making money from open source software. some people are making money from software that they run using open source software (because it's free).
scotus is on our side, albeit it's a slow moving ship. read the GPS ruling from 2012 (unanimous) and the cell phone ruling from 2014 (unanimous). they'll get to the right conclusion, it just may take them too long.
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At work I use the Closed Document Format, as in, I'm not going to open your doc because it is probably shit and I'm not gonna waste my time. DENIED!
dude, your total bs. i learned in school that linux is for nerds and virgins. MS gave us all free copies of office to use from home.
My favorite quote from the reddit link you posted: "my tesla range dropped 1% in 10 months, assuming linear battery degradation I'll still be at 90% in ten years!" lol lol lol lol lol. I had a scrambled egg for breakfast 2 hrs ago, so by linear extension I'll eat 730 eggs this year!
also, there needs to be a new meme on slashdot, something similar to [citation needed], when somebody cites youtube and reddit in their post.
You want convenience? How about an MOT every 5 years instead of every year? EVs are incredibly simple, and have very few moving parts. They're as close to a solid state device as you're gonna get. Wouldn't surprise me to see the Teslas going for more than 50 years with very little servicing to speak of (apart from tyre changes, and window wipers).
I don't know what MOT means, but I do know that your $70k tesla will need $40k in new batteries in 5 years or else the range goes to shit. but yes, other than that, I imagine they could run for quite a long time.
Well, efficiency informs us on cost.
efficiency is connected with costs in a loose way. But if we're going to talk about costs then why don't we just talk about costs? I don't know too much about cars, but I know two recent bus projects, where the battery bus fuel cost is $0.30/mi and the fuel cell bus fuel cost is $1.20/mi.
there. was that so hard? facts. we have cut efficiency out because it is a canard.
*so* *what*. Efficiency is meaningless. What means something is cost per mile. The cost of electricity and cost of hydrogen are completely decoupled from how they are made, so this "efficiency" calc has nothing to do with anything. please stop talking about it.
It's free as in beer to set up an eBay store, but then you pay pay pay in listing fees, placement fees, payment fees. Don't kid yourself bub.
yes but it's not free as in beer, is it?
yes because I will be in the white house and it will be epic.
goodness I'm tired of this white house. the sooner the better.
You misspelled "magneto". I don't think he uses open source.
to be fair, the primary source of electricity is also fossil fuel, either nat gas or coal. so your high horse isn't as high as you think it is. yes, h2 has higher ghgs than electricity, but there's no economic cost to that and it's still lower than gasoline.
in terms of range, 80 mi is fine for most of my driving, but occasionally I need a car that can do a day trip from LA to San Diego (200 mi round trip), 90% of which is high speed highway, and I'm not going to sweat any range issues.
. There is one retort to the range claim of FCVs- FCV may have more range than an EV, but the car is also much more expensive. If you took an EV and added a tow box with enough battery packs to make the vehicles have comparable price, then the range comparison would be much different.
h2 is stored at 350 bar or 700 bar. a bit higher than cng at 260 bar (3600psi), but you just spec the tanks appropriately and inspect/replace them appropriately. Any small slow leaks go harmlessly into the air, jut need to watch where you park them. it seems fine to me, you just need precautions. like how you're not supposed to smoke at gas stations.
thanks. i read one of the other links provided and it was very informative. have a good day.
ty. a very interesting point, something I hadn't known about. The law review article has a relevant example. It gave the scenario of "Tom", a self-employed realtor who was choosing between a $50k Mercedes sedan and $50k mercedes ultra-suv. The loophole provided a $13k incentive for him to choose the SUV. However, your original quote of $25k is misleading, because Tom would also get a tax deduction (albeit a smaller one) for the mercedes sedan.
i don't see the difference in safety between a hydrogen car and a cng car. Elaborate?
Efficiency is the most important factor in determining cost per mile. A car that requires four times as much electricity will have approximately four times the cost per mile. It will also cause four times the green-house gas emissions, assuming that the source of the electricity is the same.
don't go full retard! what about the costs of the primary fuel, dumb ass??? if you're comparing electricity to other sources, then it matters. photovoltaics are pretty darn inefficient, but sunlight is free so it's a wash. get it?
are you five? Have you ever even driven a car or owned one? You seem hot have no clue about weighing pros and cons or understanding the challenges new tech must overcome.
who can I tell? You lead with the main argument - EV cars are more efficient in terms of total energy per mile. You know what? nobody gives a crap! the three important things for hydrogen stations are cost per mile, fuel source, and GHGs. nobody cares about mathematical efficiencies.
you know what people do care about? range and convenience time. you know what's not convenient? recharging for four hours every 20 mins!
citation needed. link or it didn't happen.
people have been getting carjacked for some time, but it would suck if all tesla cars across the nation were carjacked at 70mPH on the freeway
He just bought a 40' RV
I did not expect your post to end this way! Congrats to his success.
2. The myth that "you can't make money on open source" is a myth so debunked that you have entire industries built on it, from servers and supercomputers to cellphones and kids' toys.
nobody's making money in cell phones except for apple and sammy. but other than that, it's clear from your short list that nobody's making money from open source software. some people are making money from software that they run using open source software (because it's free).
If they care about their customers (HA!) they should put at least half the employees they're letting go into expanded testing and security divisions.
good idea! if they sic a bunch of HR drones on to testing and security issues, the problem will be solved in weeks.
scotus is on our side, albeit it's a slow moving ship. read the GPS ruling from 2012 (unanimous) and the cell phone ruling from 2014 (unanimous). they'll get to the right conclusion, it just may take them too long.
Meh. Start at the top. The NSA thing is clearly a violation of executive authority.