I'm workign in TV news now, and have worked with many of the majors over the past few years. There is not a universal winner. Skype does remain extremely popular because of it's ubiquity and it's fantastic ability to handle very crappy connections. It's not the best when you have plenty of bandwidth, but it's certainly the best when you don't. CNN takes live shots to air off Skype regularly.
That said, if you are willing to pay, Vidyo is doing some decent stuff. I know of at least 3 'radio shows on tv' that operate over Vidyo, with cameras at the radio studios, and the broadcast control room hundreds if not thousands of miles away. I'm not sure about linux support, but there is a free client for OSX and Windows, so any interviewee can download it and join right up using whatever webcam is available.
I'd recommend not looking for a single solution to rule them all. Instead, try and schedule about 10min at the beginning to see what you can get working - start w/ a high end, like Vidyo, if it's struggling or they can't get ti going, try facetime, still no love, step down to Skype.
Look out for the Mac OS X versions...
The combined markets of linux w/ OS X is exactly what linux needs to boost it's purchasing power in the market...
And of cousre the recording and analysis of personal data by no means stops w/ E/C. This is the true nature of the information age, it is about the power to control the medium of exchnage so as to control the nature of thought. It is the opposite of NewSpeak, it is an attempt to limit the definition of self to only those commersially available options, though the variety of configuation may prove infinate. The problem w/ the information age is not a matter of what infromatio people exchange and choose to make available, it is the inability to control your level of cultural participation, being forced to be measured, and to have these measurements dialectically applied to media instantaniously. It happens in supermarkets now. That's why everybody is offering club cards, so they can watch who purchases what and when, and they can vary the stimuli to achieve higher levels of cultural effeciancy. The change the lcd displays depending on whose bought what recently. 6 year olds now have cultural classes they consider themselves part of or seek to be part of, whereas 10 years ago children the same age would not have even been able to classify others w/ any resonable clarity, let alone themselves. Now these poor kids build their own identities out of commodities, which were of course designed for this perpose via demographics, the posterchild for the information age. Dig?
excuse.... how is apple gaining success here? it's not like they are sueing over any kind of tech issues like patents or copyrights, they're sueing somebody for violating a contract that told them to keep their mouths shut. Apple is still twice as innovative as very nearly every other manufacturer out there, in fact this is theire attempt to keep people from ripping them off as quickly as they are....
should be avoided. Ideally you have 1 support person for each 25 - 40 depending on businees unit / geographic divisions (100 if Macintosh, 200 if Macintosh and it's me running the show), seated in close proximinty so that they know everyone personally. support people should be dedicated to groups as to better idenitfy their needs. screw all forms and so forth and concerntrate on each persons individual needs in order to productivity as high as possible. Many people bitch and complain about not being treated w/ respect, but this is obviously going to be the case if you are as rude as many posting here suggest. When people know and trust you your job is much eaisier. dont lie to users, dont tell them you know things you dont. dont act like they are stupid when you know something they dont. follow through. do this and they will love you. and if they love you they arent rude and they wont burn you to you bosses either.
"a special Photoshop plugin is required to make use of the Velocity Engine.
What does this mean? Quite simply, an application must specifically be written (or re-written) to take advantage of the Velocity Engine." the plugins came to less than 5 megs downloadable, and installed by being dropped in a folder. All you had to do was restart the photoshop app to get a massive speed boost. On windows you have to restart if you change your ip address, and with linux y'all are doing stuff like recompling kernals so I cant see how plugins are unreasonable. As for video, OpenGL is supported on all the ATI cards and I belive the 3dfx ones too, on the mac. it a nice open starnard that at least could be running on lots of cards....
Of course one should "work outside the system". thats the whole point here, and the same point Jon was making above and Stallman earlier this week. WORK OUTSIDE THE SYSTEM. So what if a bunch of hard rockin millionares are getting ripped off? God forbid the are graced with a sub-opulent lifestyle. The greatest thing about napster is that it elminates the record companys from the whole picture. People talk about recouping cost on marketing and promotions, who needs them anyway? I have no problem with every single person or band on the top 40 never making another cent of royalties, let them mae 50k or 100k off of concerts and cd sales, and if their extrodanry ego can't handle it whoop te do! The real problem here isn't why they compiled all sorts of lists of what individual folks had on their computers, but that they did. It sets a precident that says peoples privacy is irrelevent next to commercial factors. Yes it is the ignorance of those users who didn't know they could have thier napster catalogues monitored that lead to their being put on this blacklist, but the problem is that people are making blacklists at all. Act as if the world were the way you wanted it to be, and you will see that world manifest in front of you, it's the law of karma. If metallica wants a bunch of resentful, fearful, parnoid folks for their auduance, well they found a good way to help make that the case.
This is kind of like the voucher plan, which is a great idea. What a lot of net libertians need to realize is tat in a lot of way the way right folks have some good ideas..... Vouchers are a good idea because it means people can START THEIR OWN SCHOOLS, and use gov't $$ via vouchers to pay for them....
You can run Preimere, Final Cut, and After Effects, all of which rock w/ tons of available plugins. For analog stuff, look at the Targa cards.... G4's ship w/ 20 or 27 gig ATA drives, which in my experiance has been fine, if you want more speed add an adaptec card w/ dual UltraWhatever SCSI and Softraid them... For Internet publishing, you cant beat Media Cleaner Pro for compression and so forth. G4's start at about $1600, you can do a good DV system for under 4k, not including software. The Apple stuff is the way to go here.
Folks need to remember that this is the next version of MAC OS, not some unix varient. for the most part the folks who are gonna be installing this major and terrific update are going to find their years of MAC OS experiance and knowlege essentially flushed, which is to say the XML deal is great. It will allow Apple to bulid an simple happy GUI interface to control the zillion dispersed config files in the system, a far cry from the old Preferance system where all config files were located in the system folder. It also would seem that XML is a good choice as it is powerful and becoming widely accepted, over all well suited on several levels to be used a a base language for configs.
what are you talking about? can you say price point? first of a g3 w/ dual mode ethernet and usb is obiously far beyond a mac +. you have to keep in mind this is a computer for your mom or little sister not for you. the whole point is the fact that it isnt a seperate monitor, its like bying a boom box instead of a componant stereo system, which is what most poeple do, because there are less cables and less frustration. givin that 32mb of ram is not enbough, but tons of resellers run offers that include free ram upgrades as large as 128megs.... you all just love to bash apple cuz you know there boxes kick your boxes butt.....
what are you talking about???? usb is usb, a hundred bucks gets you a zip drive, which has for the most part replaced floppies in a lot of situations, included schools and colleges. and the ibook has built in dual mode ethernet.... you by the way have no idea what is up w/ air port as well.... why would you need another usb mac? the air port hub has 10/100 ethernet and a 56k modem, usb has othing to do with it.... all you need is a cross over cable. geez, read the specs before you go flaming a product.... and your really silly if you think 400 bucks is a lot of money for 11mbit wireless lans.....
Im not refering to the client side at all, jus t to the server side. They dont care if you watch movies on your linux box, linux clients aren't very populus out there, they want you to serve QT4 from your linux server. obviously the player isn'r open source, it's the streaming server that is.
"/* 1) If a mac isn't doing what you expect then it gives you NO debugging information to "figure out what's wrong with it" - trust me.. I work on a help desk. How do you ping something from a mac? erm. there's a COMMERCIAL PACKAGE that can do it.. sheesh. So if it says "can't connect to mail host smtp.foo.com" I have no idea if it's a DNS problem or a TCP problem or an IP problem, and I'm trying to work this out through some 'kwit down the phone who bought a mac fooled into thinking it would be easy to use. */ "
this is BS, straight up. your right, you cant tell if it is dns tcp or ip, but they are all in the same godamn control panel so it doesn't matter anyway... geez. at least all the possible problems are in one place that is really easy to use and find..... as for the lack of network tools, Mac TCP Watcher is shareware (like 20 bucks) and it gives you ping, trace route, dns checking, and udp and tcp checking, plus it trax the number of open connection you have had, packet failures and so forth. sorry, no command line.....
For the last time, the open source relese of darwin has little or nothing to do with a desire to proliferate or pose os x server against linix or any other server os really. It is about quicktime. now we all love our respective os's and what not and can go on forever flaming one another abotu our personal prefs and so forth, but the fact is we are all doing it through a website where what os you run don't matter a bit. in the end, if you take a properly internet-centric veiw of all this you can see what all the big ceo's have been saying for years, it's about whose standards are on the web. apple will be a reletivly large niche player for the forseeable future, i work at an ad agency in the creative dept. and i can tell you that these macs aint goin no where in this industry, as in publishing, or anything else where seemless creativity is the goal. apple knows this, it can grow it's consumer base to a cewrtain extent (imacs, etc.) but jobs knows in the end it is quicktime that will make or break apples long term success. so shut up about apple encrouching on linux or the authenticity of thir open source gestures and hurry up and port quicktime streaming server to linux!!
no no no. apple is primary concerned w/ the proliferation of QT as the dominant force in streaming media, the QTR streaming server is part of darwin, and they want to see that ported evrywhere, for free, so that qt will dominate, which is fine cuz in case you didn't know qt rocks.
I work w/ macs exculsively and can telll you ecaxtly y they are doing this... they want folks to port the quicktime streaming server (part of darwin) to every comceivable platform so that quicktime can (and thank god will ) CRUSH RealNetworks and the sucky realplayer hold on streaming media. Everyother part of darwin really isn't new and don't really matter to them chris
Try turning off virtual memeory and rebuilding the desktop once in a while, if you talking about actual application performance, if youyr talking about network stuff, yes appletalk is not as fast as ip, obviously, but it is getting really easy to eliminate appletalk all togather, and ip on a mac is genrally pretty comparable to that of a pc, esp. in things like printing. Besides it's so easy to maintain the macs that i can't belive your having these problems. rebulid your desktops, and run norton every 6wks. then make a comparision, just as long as you not using Word or Excel or another crippled MS product as the benchmarker.
those are some cracked out bullsh*it charges. First off interruption of public communications, come on, is that like interrupting someone, besides the majority of that actual mail systems effected were private systems, like all communications in a capitalist system. as for theft of computer services this has got to be the most selectivly enforced law ever, i mean is any program that does something without your consent stealing computer services, was microsoft steal computer services from me by embedding my history into my word docs w/ out my knowlege and consent? I'd love to charge them for that!
But this is such a broad definition of virii, i mean the only damage it causes is indirect, you might be able to prove that he wanted the mail to spread like wildfire but how do you prove that he both knew and intended for it to crash mail servers??? what is the definition of virus, legally???
how is virus defined, is it based on self replication, is it formally defined at all???
Plus i mean is this guy prosacutable in the uk if he released it in the us?? just because it ended up in the uk does that mean he falls under their juristiction??
Im just curious what laws were broken by this "virus"? I mean at best it is an invasion of privacy insofar as it reads your address books w/ out your permission, but what kind of charge is that. It's not an invasion of a system, it's an unsolicitied email, which isn't illegal. Does self replication somehow make against the law?
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I'm workign in TV news now, and have worked with many of the majors over the past few years. There is not a universal winner.
Skype does remain extremely popular because of it's ubiquity and it's fantastic ability to handle very crappy connections. It's not the best when you have plenty of bandwidth, but it's certainly the best when you don't. CNN takes live shots to air off Skype regularly.
That said, if you are willing to pay, Vidyo is doing some decent stuff. I know of at least 3 'radio shows on tv' that operate over Vidyo, with cameras at the radio studios, and the broadcast control room hundreds if not thousands of miles away. I'm not sure about linux support, but there is a free client for OSX and Windows, so any interviewee can download it and join right up using whatever webcam is available.
I'd recommend not looking for a single solution to rule them all. Instead, try and schedule about 10min at the beginning to see what you can get working - start w/ a high end, like Vidyo, if it's struggling or they can't get ti going, try facetime, still no love, step down to Skype.
That is, frankly, what the pros are doing.
Look out for the Mac OS X versions... The combined markets of linux w/ OS X is exactly what linux needs to boost it's purchasing power in the market...
And of cousre the recording and analysis of personal data by no means stops w/ E/C. This is the true nature of the information age, it is about the power to control the medium of exchnage so as to control the nature of thought. It is the opposite of NewSpeak, it is an attempt to limit the definition of self to only those commersially available options, though the variety of configuation may prove infinate. The problem w/ the information age is not a matter of what infromatio people exchange and choose to make available, it is the inability to control your level of cultural participation, being forced to be measured, and to have these measurements dialectically applied to media instantaniously. It happens in supermarkets now. That's why everybody is offering club cards, so they can watch who purchases what and when, and they can vary the stimuli to achieve higher levels of cultural effeciancy. The change the lcd displays depending on whose bought what recently. 6 year olds now have cultural classes they consider themselves part of or seek to be part of, whereas 10 years ago children the same age would not have even been able to classify others w/ any resonable clarity, let alone themselves. Now these poor kids build their own identities out of commodities, which were of course designed for this perpose via demographics, the posterchild for the information age. Dig?
excuse.... how is apple gaining success here? it's not like they are sueing over any kind of tech issues like patents or copyrights, they're sueing somebody for violating a contract that told them to keep their mouths shut. Apple is still twice as innovative as very nearly every other manufacturer out there, in fact this is theire attempt to keep people from ripping them off as quickly as they are....
Port Sherlock 2.....
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should be avoided. Ideally you have 1 support person for each 25 - 40 depending on businees unit / geographic divisions (100 if Macintosh, 200 if Macintosh and it's me running the show), seated in close proximinty so that they know everyone personally. support people should be dedicated to groups as to better idenitfy their needs. screw all forms and so forth and concerntrate on each persons individual needs in order to productivity as high as possible.
Many people bitch and complain about not being treated w/ respect, but this is obviously going to be the case if you are as rude as many posting here suggest. When people know and trust you your job is much eaisier. dont lie to users, dont tell them you know things you dont. dont act like they are stupid when you know something they dont. follow through. do this and they will love you. and if they love you they arent rude and they wont burn you to you bosses either.
"a special Photoshop plugin is required to make use of the Velocity Engine.
What does this mean? Quite simply, an application must specifically be written (or re-written) to take advantage of the Velocity Engine."
the plugins came to less than 5 megs downloadable, and installed by being dropped in a folder. All you had to do was restart the photoshop app to get a massive speed boost. On windows you have to restart if you change your ip address, and with linux y'all are doing stuff like recompling kernals so I cant see how plugins are unreasonable.
As for video, OpenGL is supported on all the ATI cards and I belive the 3dfx ones too, on the mac. it a nice open starnard that at least could be running on lots of cards....
Of course one should "work outside the system". thats the whole point here, and the same point Jon was making above and Stallman earlier this week.
WORK OUTSIDE THE SYSTEM.
So what if a bunch of hard rockin millionares are getting ripped off?
God forbid the are graced with a sub-opulent lifestyle. The greatest thing about napster is that it elminates the record companys from the whole picture. People talk about recouping cost on marketing and promotions, who needs them anyway?
I have no problem with every single person or band on the top 40 never making another cent of royalties, let them mae 50k or 100k off of concerts and cd sales, and if their extrodanry ego can't handle it whoop te do!
The real problem here isn't why they compiled all sorts of lists of what individual folks had on their computers, but that they did. It sets a precident that says peoples privacy is irrelevent next to commercial factors. Yes it is the ignorance of those users who didn't know they could have thier napster catalogues monitored that lead to their being put on this blacklist, but the problem is that people are making blacklists at all.
Act as if the world were the way you wanted it to be, and you will see that world manifest in front of you, it's the law of karma. If metallica wants a bunch of resentful, fearful, parnoid folks for their auduance, well they found a good way to help make that the case.
This is kind of like the voucher plan, which is a great idea. What a lot of net libertians need to realize is tat in a lot of way the way right folks have some good ideas.....
Vouchers are a good idea because it means people can START THEIR OWN SCHOOLS, and use gov't $$ via vouchers to pay for them....
You can run Preimere, Final Cut, and After Effects, all of which rock w/ tons of available plugins. For analog stuff, look at the Targa cards.... G4's ship w/ 20 or 27 gig ATA drives, which in my experiance has been fine, if you want more speed add an adaptec card w/ dual UltraWhatever SCSI and Softraid them... For Internet publishing, you cant beat Media Cleaner Pro for compression and so forth. G4's start at about $1600, you can do a good DV system for under 4k, not including software. The Apple stuff is the way to go here.
Folks need to remember that this is the next version of MAC OS, not some unix varient. for the most part the folks who are gonna be installing this major and terrific update are going to find their years of MAC OS experiance and knowlege essentially flushed, which is to say the XML deal is great. It will allow Apple to bulid an simple happy GUI interface to control the zillion dispersed config files in the system, a far cry from the old Preferance system where all config files were located in the system folder. It also would seem that XML is a good choice as it is powerful and becoming widely accepted, over all well suited on several levels to be used a a base language for configs.
what are you talking about? can you say price point? first of a g3 w/ dual mode ethernet and usb is obiously far beyond a mac +. you have to keep in mind this is a computer for your mom or little sister not for you. the whole point is the fact that it isnt a seperate monitor, its like bying a boom box instead of a componant stereo system, which is what most poeple do, because there are less cables and less frustration. givin that 32mb of ram is not enbough, but tons of resellers run offers that include free ram upgrades as large as 128megs....
you all just love to bash apple cuz you know there boxes kick your boxes butt.....
what are you talking about????
usb is usb, a hundred bucks gets you a zip drive, which has for the most part replaced floppies in a lot of situations, included schools and colleges. and the ibook has built in dual mode ethernet....
you by the way have no idea what is up w/ air port as well.... why would you need another usb mac? the air port hub has 10/100 ethernet and a 56k modem, usb has othing to do with it.... all you need is a cross over cable. geez, read the specs before you go flaming a product....
and your really silly if you think 400 bucks is a lot of money for 11mbit wireless lans.....
Im not refering to the client side at all, jus t to the server side. They dont care if you watch movies on your linux box, linux clients aren't very populus out there, they want you to serve QT4 from your linux server. obviously the player isn'r open source, it's the streaming server that is.
"/* 1) If a mac isn't doing what you expect then it gives you NO debugging information to "figure out what's wrong with it" - trust me.. I work on a help desk. How do you ping something from a mac? erm. there's a COMMERCIAL PACKAGE that can do it.. sheesh. So if it says "can't connect to mail host smtp.foo.com" I have no idea if it's a DNS problem or a TCP problem or an IP problem, and I'm trying to work this out through some 'kwit down the phone who bought a mac fooled into thinking it would be easy to use. */ "
this is BS, straight up. your right, you cant tell if it is dns tcp or ip, but they are all in the same godamn control panel so it doesn't matter anyway... geez. at least all the possible problems are in one place that is really easy to use and find.....
as for the lack of network tools, Mac TCP Watcher is shareware (like 20 bucks) and it gives you ping, trace route, dns checking, and udp and tcp checking, plus it trax the number of open connection you have had, packet failures and so forth. sorry, no command line.....
For the last time, the open source relese of darwin has little or nothing to do with a desire to proliferate or pose os x server against linix or any other server os really. It is about quicktime. now we all love our respective os's and what not and can go on forever flaming one another abotu our personal prefs and so forth, but the fact is we are all doing it through a website where what os you run don't matter a bit. in the end, if you take a properly internet-centric veiw of all this you can see what all the big ceo's have been saying for years, it's about whose standards are on the web. apple will be a reletivly large niche player for the forseeable future, i work at an ad agency in the creative dept. and i can tell you that these macs aint goin no where in this industry, as in publishing, or anything else where seemless creativity is the goal. apple knows this, it can grow it's consumer base to a cewrtain extent (imacs, etc.) but jobs knows in the end it is quicktime that will make or break apples long term success. so shut up about apple encrouching on linux or the authenticity of thir open source gestures and hurry up and port quicktime streaming server to linux!!
no no no.
apple is primary concerned w/ the proliferation of QT as the dominant force in streaming media, the QTR streaming server is part of darwin, and they want to see that ported evrywhere, for free, so that qt will dominate, which is fine cuz in case you didn't know qt rocks.
I work w/ macs exculsively and can telll you ecaxtly y they are doing this... they want folks to port the quicktime streaming server (part of darwin) to every comceivable platform so that quicktime can (and thank god will ) CRUSH RealNetworks and the sucky realplayer hold on streaming media. Everyother part of darwin really isn't new and don't really matter to them chris
the airport hubs have 2 prts, an dual mode 10/100 ether net and a seperate built in 56k modem.
Try turning off virtual memeory and rebuilding the desktop once in a while, if you talking about actual application performance, if youyr talking about network stuff, yes appletalk is not as fast as ip, obviously, but it is getting really easy to eliminate appletalk all togather, and ip on a mac is genrally pretty comparable to that of a pc, esp. in things like printing.
Besides it's so easy to maintain the macs that i can't belive your having these problems. rebulid your desktops, and run norton every 6wks.
then make a comparision, just as long as you not using Word or Excel or another crippled MS product as the benchmarker.
Im totally down, lets do it....
those are some cracked out bullsh*it charges. First off interruption of public communications, come on, is that like interrupting someone, besides the majority of that actual mail systems effected were private systems, like all communications in a capitalist system. as for theft of computer services this has got to be the most selectivly enforced law ever, i mean is any program that does something without your consent stealing computer services, was microsoft steal computer services from me by embedding my history into my word docs w/ out my knowlege and consent?
I'd love to charge them for that!
But this is such a broad definition of virii, i mean the only damage it causes is indirect, you might be able to prove that he wanted the mail to spread like wildfire but how do you prove that he both knew and intended for it to crash mail servers???
what is the definition of virus, legally???
how is virus defined, is it based on self replication, is it formally defined at all???
Plus i mean is this guy prosacutable in the uk if he released it in the us?? just because it ended up in the uk does that mean he falls under their juristiction??
Im just curious what laws were broken by this "virus"? I mean at best it is an invasion of privacy insofar as it reads your address books w/ out your permission, but what kind of charge is that. It's not an invasion of a system, it's an unsolicitied email, which isn't illegal. Does self replication somehow make against the law?