it will stop at getting unimportant information because if it doesn't, id will get into big trouble for doing it, and they know it. id isn't going to get your/etc/passwd file, they would be sued into oblivion if they did. they requested information that is made to help their customers. and that is all they will ever request.
It's really not as bad as it sounds. It tells them which renderer you use (and thus which video card), your operating system, your version of quake. No information that can be used to identify you personally. A picture of the packet can be found at http://x86.strikenet.at/q3/pic/q3.gif
I have absolutely no problem whatsoever with them doing this, but it angers me that they don't tell you that they are.
i really don't see the difference. the source doesn't have to be posted everywhere on the net. it could be closed source development, but the source is released with the final game. i know open source dev is supposed to be done as a community, but if you want people to buy the final game, you would have to keep it closed until final, unless you had all of the developers pay for CVS access... hrm...:P
still, as long as the code is released with the final product, all of the "i'm mr. fixit, everyone else sucks at writing stuff, so lemme fixit" people could fixit.
another topic... "most windoze games crash and windoze crashes like mad" isn't as true any more. i use linux whenever possible, only to play games do i use windows, but windows hasn't crashed in a very very long time. usually i have problems like it doesn't shut down or colors get messed up, but it hasn't crashed. this newfound "stability" arrived along with win98 (which shouldn't have cost $100, or any amount for that matter). using arguments that linux is stable and win9x is buggy/crashey isn't very valid any longer. win95, yes... winnt, maybe (i've not used it)... but frankly, most of the stability issues of win95 were resolved with win98. another one of the common arguments is win9x is slow. at a kernel level, linux compares very favorably to win9x i'm sure. but most people use GUI's... and linux's gui (SPEED, not usability... i can't get shit done without multiple desktops) isn't as fast on the same hardware as windows (although xfree4 should help this a lot with better drivers). i'm saying this because most of the people reading this are gamers, and gamers usually have decent hardware, and most (not all) use a gui. being a quaker, look at the speed comparison of q3test in linux and windows. i (maybe a bad example, but this is how it is) can run linux q3test in low quality and shrink the screen down a little bit and it runs playable (not beautiful or smooth). in windows q3test on the same box, i run 800x600 32bpp (not even supported under linux), high quality shit... it looks and runs amazing. once again, this is a driver problem, and will be fixed some with xfree86's driver improvements and DRI, but with differences this drastic, the drivers and the addition of DRI have a long way to go.
don't misunderstand the purpose of this post. it is not to advocate m$ products or bash linux, but it looks necessary for someone to point out the invalidity of some of the arguments against those products. when you use them against the masses who use win98, they don't see any truth in your bashing of win9x, so why should they believe your advocating of linUx? linux power comes from its POWER that it gives the user. putting win9x on a box is like neutering it. it closes many opportunities with what you can do with your computer (same thing when you neuter your pet). still, many people like this neutered version of a pc because you don't have to worry about some things that you have to when you have a fully capable box. that is how it is, and it is slowly changing, but won't ever be completely changed.
ok, that's enough talking on/. for the next few months for me. go ahead and click that 'off topic', because yes, it sure is. thanks for reading what i have to say.
i had a rage fury for a while... good card in windows... just traded it to a friend for his old pci-tnt and $70us. i bought a tnt2, and it is very worth it... ati seems very un-interested in getting rage128 working in linux, so screw them, i'm an nvidia man from now on out.
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it will stop at getting unimportant information because if it doesn't, id will get into big trouble for doing it, and they know it. id isn't going to get your /etc/passwd file, they would be sued into oblivion if they did. they requested information that is made to help their customers. and that is all they will ever request.
It's really not as bad as it sounds. It tells them which renderer you use (and thus which video card), your operating system, your version of quake. No information that can be used to identify you personally. A picture of the packet can be found at http://x86.strikenet.at/q3/pic/q3.gif
I have absolutely no problem whatsoever with them doing this, but it angers me that they don't tell you that they are.
i admire your self control, as thing is everyone knows what you were going to say anyways :P
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/. for the next few months for me. go ahead and click that 'off topic', because yes, it sure is. thanks for reading what i have to say.
i really don't see the difference. the source doesn't have to be posted everywhere on the net. it could be closed source development, but the source is released with the final game. i know open source dev is supposed to be done as a community, but if you want people to buy the final game, you would have to keep it closed until final, unless you had all of the developers pay for CVS access... hrm...
still, as long as the code is released with the final product, all of the "i'm mr. fixit, everyone else sucks at writing stuff, so lemme fixit" people could fixit.
another topic... "most windoze games crash and windoze crashes like mad" isn't as true any more. i use linux whenever possible, only to play games do i use windows, but windows hasn't crashed in a very very long time. usually i have problems like it doesn't shut down or colors get messed up, but it hasn't crashed. this newfound "stability" arrived along with win98 (which shouldn't have cost $100, or any amount for that matter). using arguments that linux is stable and win9x is buggy/crashey isn't very valid any longer. win95, yes... winnt, maybe (i've not used it)... but frankly, most of the stability issues of win95 were resolved with win98. another one of the common arguments is win9x is slow. at a kernel level, linux compares very favorably to win9x i'm sure. but most people use GUI's... and linux's gui (SPEED, not usability... i can't get shit done without multiple desktops) isn't as fast on the same hardware as windows (although xfree4 should help this a lot with better drivers). i'm saying this because most of the people reading this are gamers, and gamers usually have decent hardware, and most (not all) use a gui. being a quaker, look at the speed comparison of q3test in linux and windows. i (maybe a bad example, but this is how it is) can run linux q3test in low quality and shrink the screen down a little bit and it runs playable (not beautiful or smooth). in windows q3test on the same box, i run 800x600 32bpp (not even supported under linux), high quality shit... it looks and runs amazing. once again, this is a driver problem, and will be fixed some with xfree86's driver improvements and DRI, but with differences this drastic, the drivers and the addition of DRI have a long way to go.
don't misunderstand the purpose of this post. it is not to advocate m$ products or bash linux, but it looks necessary for someone to point out the invalidity of some of the arguments against those products. when you use them against the masses who use win98, they don't see any truth in your bashing of win9x, so why should they believe your advocating of linUx? linux power comes from its POWER that it gives the user. putting win9x on a box is like neutering it. it closes many opportunities with what you can do with your computer (same thing when you neuter your pet). still, many people like this neutered version of a pc because you don't have to worry about some things that you have to when you have a fully capable box. that is how it is, and it is slowly changing, but won't ever be completely changed.
ok, that's enough talking on
-helo
i had a rage fury for a while... good card in windows... just traded it to a friend for his old pci-tnt and $70us. i bought a tnt2, and it is very worth it... ati seems very un-interested in getting rage128 working in linux, so screw them, i'm an nvidia man from now on out.