> But how come they can't buy it at the same time it gets shown in the US?
Not that i agree with it but this is because they want to see how popular the show is first (even some big budget programmes flop) the more popular it is the more they can then sell it for etc etc.
Though on something like enterprise this is pretty much irrelevent isn't it?
If that is the case, and I see no rason why is is not then surely it only applies to backward compatable 32-bit code and not the 64-bit chip specific 32-bit code.
am i the only person here who sees x86 compatability in 64-bit chips a MAJOR BAD POINT. hell the chip should never have gone 32-bit, it's a complete pile of poo.
I know this is probably not the reason they made the patch but it validates it for me. (i'm not american btw, and would probably hate to be;-) )
Flight SIMULATOR 2000. just that a simulator, i see the patch as a modernising patch, like a scenery update. to how it is now. do you really want them to FORCE UPGRADES to new products for realism?
> 2. No commercials, previews, ad-banners, or other such nonsense is included
indeed in pay-per-view the adverts belong on the "preview" (advertising) channel.
> 3. The data stream is 100%. No bullshit blurring, bitrate reduction, or other nonsense like DirectTV uses. If I gotta pay, I want unreduced 1080p (not 1080i), with full 5.1 sound.
couldn't agree more, we shouldn;t have to put up with the crap.
> 4. A guarantee that there will be no dropouts, glitches, etc.
this is completely unreasonable. you couldn't guarantee this sort of thing. problems happen.
however the box could notice that a dropout occured and thus give you access to a re-view for free.
5. I can make a non-duplicatable archive copy using a durable media like DVD.
ahh but this contradicts the price in point 1. either it's gonna be cheap and you have to pay each time to watch it (i mean do youreally need to hoard a lot of stuff you don't need? (like so many people out there!!)) or it's gonna cost more and let you keep a copy.
> 6. No monthly service charges. If you want me to pay per episode, I'll only pay for what I want to watch, not for all the hundreds of hours of useless tripe.
this is entirely dependant on what they provide for the "service charge" no service charge would usually equate to mimimum usage requirement. they can't just let you subscribe and do nothing. it would make them bankrupt.
7. No time slotting. If I subscribe to a series, I expect it to be deposited for viewing or archive on a weekly basis, to be viewed when I have time and the inclination.
This would be nice and hopefully in the future. Though "deposited weelky" certainly sounds like time slotting for me;-) though i know what you mean.
> you look at it from their viewpoint, you will see that the best they can do is to not lose money from the proposition
I'd think the best they could hope for would be to raise publicity for themselfs and clear the path for a very succesfull sequal. if they don;t see this them they are plain thick.
> Giving old products away to the general public has certain specific and often harmful tax consequences
Yes but giving the source away is not giving the product away is it? Is quake 2 now free? Is quake now free? is doom now free? evn is wolfenstien 3d now free? the answer to all is a resounding no. the code itself does not make a complete game.
> code reuse
let's face it there is a. probably better code already out there, have you seen some of the freely available code?. and b. irrespective the games industry is probably the worst violator of the gpl out there, i know i worked there for a time.
thus giving your code away gives your competitors nothing they don't already have available 99% of the time.
I have a 1ghz athlon (yeah i know, but i can't be bothered upgrading it suffices fine, memory seems more of a problem to me, that's why i have 640mb)
Anway shortly after buying the motherboard and cpu the fan failed (it was free with the motherboard and cpu, you certainly get what you pay for;-) ) basically my machine kept locking up randomly especially after intensive cpu work, it took me about a week to realise what was going wrong (the fan still worked but further invertigation showed it was spinning right slow)
and the athlon would continue to work fine to temperatures of about 90 deg C, much higher and the system crashed (and as i say for a week all i did was reboot and put up with it)
the cpu still works fine today (with a 1.4ghz rated fan just in case!) and iss back down to reasonable ~45 deg C max (ish) temperatures.
also if ytou want to go back further i used to run my intel 166 mmx at 266 for about a year, which gave great result until the fan died (standard pentium 233 fan) at which pioint it took the funny business of whenever it entered 32-bit mode that it would kill hard drive partitions (and i mean if you needed stuff back you had to endure 48off hours of scandisk) but it did still work fine and no problems if i put it down to the old 166 proper speed. so i then went out and part ex'd it for a amd 400;-)
I think the point is that everything you are likely to want is out there on the net.
Although I do agree a physical transference medium is a reasonable requirement of any USEABLE os, and then preferably a common one.
floppys suck and personally nowadays i think the quality of them has gone serverely downhill. (anyone else think this way) I remember using disks all the time without errors, nowadays i usually only get to use a disk once before it starts playing up. BAN THE FLOPPY. (But not before we have an alternative, cd-r(w) is the best alternative atm)
Totaly agree with you, however you are missing one vitually impotant point.
The authers seldem have the rights to the software.
That myu friend lies with some big autonamous corparationm, for which the reasons of not letting go have been said here many times already (so I won't bore you with em again)
Only reason i posted this is to say my bit abou companies ripping the real lovers of games off. the coders.
I did a bit of game programming commercially for a bit. It sucked, I quit. too much politics and bullshit. So maybe I'm a sad hippy of something but I'd rather just do it for the fun myself.
Yes lot's of shit shovelware comes out. but what about the poor coders, do you think they really want to be programming that shit? they just do it cause one day they might, just might be given the chance to do something good, something they want.
Here's another tit-bit from inside the games companys. all programmers (\I won; even mention the rest of the design crew, but do include then) use warez games, they download em and play em.
Yes they purchace stuff that is good.
It's the games companies that suck and don;t you forget it.
There is currently much (digital) music piracy, this is due to outdated concepts such as cds, as a large band don't you think you should jump in at the forefront at explore way of selling digital music?
Still you've gotta remember the old amiga is dead and there's nothing you can do.
What the new amiga are doing however is very interesting and could prove very cool! (that is if they succede)
Anyway what slashdot didn't mention is that this on top of linux thing is only a stopgap to get developers developing! Hardware is irrelevent, but they will support some anyway!
Slashdot Mirror
that's because thats what we like.
mmmmm. soylent green.
> But how come they can't buy it at the same time it gets shown in the US?
Not that i agree with it but this is because they want to see how popular the show is first (even some big budget programmes flop) the more popular it is the more they can then sell it for etc etc.
Though on something like enterprise this is pretty much irrelevent isn't it?
Damn the corperate crap.
Carrot007.
Likewise there is no legitimate use for Windows.
;-)
Yet it stil exists
Carrt007.
If that is the case, and I see no rason why is is not then surely it only applies to backward compatable 32-bit code and not the 64-bit chip specific 32-bit code.
am i the only person here who sees x86 compatability in 64-bit chips a MAJOR BAD POINT. hell the chip should never have gone 32-bit, it's a complete pile of poo.
Carrot007.
The correct address for the MESS project is www.mess.org
X.mame.net is justy the 'nix port's addy. much more info is at the real page.
and mess really is goo, check it out!
carot007
The correct address for the MESS project is www.mess.org
X.mame.net is justy the 'nix port's addy. much more info is at the real page.
and mess really is goo, check it out!
caroot007
I know this is probably not the reason they made the patch but it validates it for me. (i'm not american btw, and would probably hate to be ;-) )
Flight SIMULATOR 2000. just that a simulator, i see the patch as a modernising patch, like a scenery update. to how it is now. do you really want them to FORCE UPGRADES to new products for realism?
carrot007.
read it again.
A truly smart person probably wouldn't belive that terrorist action would accomplish their goals.
and again
A TRULY smart person probably wouldn't belive that terrorist action would accomplish their goals.
then remeber the age old saying that a little knowledge can be a bad thing.
Carrot007.
First let's take a look at your points.
;-) though i know what you mean.
> 1. Price per 1 hour episode is no more than $1
seems reasonable.
> 2. No commercials, previews, ad-banners, or other such nonsense is included
indeed in pay-per-view the adverts belong on the "preview" (advertising) channel.
> 3. The data stream is 100%. No bullshit blurring, bitrate reduction, or other nonsense like DirectTV uses. If I gotta pay, I want unreduced 1080p (not 1080i), with full 5.1 sound.
couldn't agree more, we shouldn;t have to put up with the crap.
> 4. A guarantee that there will be no dropouts, glitches, etc.
this is completely unreasonable. you couldn't guarantee this sort of thing. problems happen.
however the box could notice that a dropout occured and thus give you access to a re-view for free.
5. I can make a non-duplicatable archive copy using a durable media like DVD.
ahh but this contradicts the price in point 1. either it's gonna be cheap and you have to pay each time to watch it (i mean do youreally need to hoard a lot of stuff you don't need? (like so many people out there!!)) or it's gonna cost more and let you keep a copy.
> 6. No monthly service charges. If you want me to pay per episode, I'll only pay for what I want to watch, not for all the hundreds of hours of useless tripe.
this is entirely dependant on what they provide for the "service charge" no service charge would usually equate to mimimum usage requirement. they can't just let you subscribe and do nothing. it would make them bankrupt.
7. No time slotting. If I subscribe to a series, I expect it to be deposited for viewing or archive on a weekly basis, to be viewed when I have time and the inclination.
This would be nice and hopefully in the future. Though "deposited weelky" certainly sounds like time slotting for me
Carrot007.
> Really? What if I were to give you a virus or trojan? Wouldn't you want legal recourse?
Only if you had voiolated my right to refuse said item. in which case you wouldn't have given me it now would you?
I mean if you can not see "gpl" or "bsd" when people say "public domain" what is the world coming to?
and the only reason that any licence is needed for some software is that the judicial process is mostly thick when it comes to computer stuff.
I mean if forinstance i wrote some code and put it out with a note to the effect:
THIS SOFTWARE IS GUARANTEED TO BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING AND IS JUST THE BEST AND NOTHING COULD BE BETTER AND IT WILL EVEN IRON YOUR SHIRT.
Do you really think it would stand for anything.
When people can sue you for giving them stuff there is something wrong with the world.
> you look at it from their viewpoint, you will see that the best they can do is to not lose money from the proposition
I'd think the best they could hope for would be to raise publicity for themselfs and clear the path for a very succesfull sequal. if they don;t see this them they are plain thick.
> Giving old products away to the general public has certain specific and often harmful tax consequences
Yes but giving the source away is not giving the product away is it? Is quake 2 now free? Is quake now free? is doom now free? evn is wolfenstien 3d now free? the answer to all is a resounding no. the code itself does not make a complete game.
> code reuse
let's face it there is a. probably better code already out there, have you seen some of the freely available code?. and b. irrespective the games industry is probably the worst violator of the gpl out there, i know i worked there for a time.
thus giving your code away gives your competitors nothing they don't already have available 99% of the time.
They may say it's impletmented in "Hardware" but it's more likely to be an updatable software effort, do you really think they'd make it that easy?
Carrot007
is this a figment of my imagination then?
http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/
Carrot007.
I have a 1ghz athlon (yeah i know, but i can't be bothered upgrading it suffices fine, memory seems more of a problem to me, that's why i have 640mb)
;-) ) basically my machine kept locking up randomly especially after intensive cpu work, it took me about a week to realise what was going wrong (the fan still worked but further invertigation showed it was spinning right slow)
;-)
Anway shortly after buying the motherboard and cpu the fan failed (it was free with the motherboard and cpu, you certainly get what you pay for
and the athlon would continue to work fine to temperatures of about 90 deg C, much higher and the system crashed (and as i say for a week all i did was reboot and put up with it)
the cpu still works fine today (with a 1.4ghz rated fan just in case!) and iss back down to reasonable ~45 deg C max (ish) temperatures.
also if ytou want to go back further i used to run my intel 166 mmx at 266 for about a year, which gave great result until the fan died (standard pentium 233 fan) at which pioint it took the funny business of whenever it entered 32-bit mode that it would kill hard drive partitions (and i mean if you needed stuff back you had to endure 48off hours of scandisk) but it did still work fine and no problems if i put it down to the old 166 proper speed. so i then went out and part ex'd it for a amd 400
right must go now GBA doom is calling me!!!!!
I think the point is that everything you are likely to want is out there on the net.
Although I do agree a physical transference medium is a reasonable requirement of any USEABLE os, and then preferably a common one.
floppys suck and personally nowadays i think the quality of them has gone serverely downhill. (anyone else think this way) I remember using disks all the time without errors, nowadays i usually only get to use a disk once before it starts playing up. BAN THE FLOPPY. (But not before we have an alternative, cd-r(w) is the best alternative atm)
Totaly agree with you, however you are missing one vitually impotant point.
The authers seldem have the rights to the software.
That myu friend lies with some big autonamous corparationm, for which the reasons of not letting go have been said here many times already (so I won't bore you with em again)
Only reason i posted this is to say my bit abou companies ripping the real lovers of games off. the coders.
I did a bit of game programming commercially for a bit. It sucked, I quit. too much politics and bullshit. So maybe I'm a sad hippy of something but I'd rather just do it for the fun myself.
Yes lot's of shit shovelware comes out. but what about the poor coders, do you think they really want to be programming that shit? they just do it cause one day they might, just might be given the chance to do something good, something they want.
Here's another tit-bit from inside the games companys. all programmers (\I won; even mention the rest of the design crew, but do include then) use warez games, they download em and play em.
Yes they purchace stuff that is good.
It's the games companies that suck and don;t you forget it.
ahh, i'm tired now, hope i didn;t miss owt!
k.
better but let's face it dvd style casing is still bigger than needed.
kyle.
There is currently much (digital) music piracy, this is due to outdated concepts such as cds, as a large band don't you think you should jump in at the forefront at explore way of selling digital music?
Sounds like you got stung by amiga in the past ;-)
Still you've gotta remember the old amiga is dead and there's nothing you can do.
What the new amiga are doing however is very interesting and could prove very cool!
(that is if they succede)
Anyway what slashdot didn't mention is that this on top of linux thing is only a stopgap to get developers developing! Hardware is irrelevent, but they will support some anyway!
K.
Well maybe variations on it! like repeating it or capitalising a bit or adding a number if the account cries otherwise
Unsafe. Yeah.
Any problems yet. No.
Bwah ha haaaaaa.