I feel that my samsung T100 ring tones are certainly at least midi quality.
Though what I want is an open phone platform so I could say for instance run my own program instead of a ring-tone. Then I could have old amiga mods for ring tones! Phones' need more power damn it.
Unfortunatly We're just getting more control-freekiness like the orange spv.
NOTE TO ORANGE: It's a fucking phone, it's primary purpose in to PHONE PEOPLE. you will not make much revenue selling programs to people and then the one's who would want to do it themselfs certainly don;t want your shite and therefore would not dent your proposed revenue streams. SINGED APPS ARE BAD, YOU KILLED OF YOUR REVENUE STREAM.
Which i bought from australia (region 4) when it came out there (1 or 2 months before uk release) and it actually cost cheaper than the uk version did in most places when it came out;-)
> Any for the record... I use Debian, and am running 2.4.19. And I'm pretty sure that even the "main" distribution of Debian now comes with a 2.4 kernel.
Debian 3 install 2.2 by default but has the OPTION of 2.4 afaik.
Which is near enough for most people, I mena if you are using debian then you should be up to selecting a few options;-)
Now I know that I place myseelf in the "geeky minority" when I say this but the gta3 on the ps2 really sucks as. Why? because the frame rate was really bad. Sorry but the machine is no more up to running gta3 than a spectum 48k is up to running sim city (yes there was a speccy 48k version, let's ztry and forget that!)
now i must go, writing is too much effort beczause i hzave spilt beer on my keyboazrd zand the zz key no longer functions, or azt lezast functions t razndom even when i azm not pressing it. i loose more keyboards that way;-) ahh well maybe it will work in the morning after drying out, it is after all a real keyboard! not one of thoses wussy crap things they try to pass off nowadazys.
oops, sory about the babble.
azs i wazs saying, developers on the ps2 mazke for to azbbitious gazmes thazt the hzardwazre caznnot cope with. (aznd now you see the writing without editing;-) )
Nice point. I'm still and the pretty much running win 2k exclusivly (on my main machine) point myself.
I would like to run linux but I havn't found the right distro yet. Actually I think suse is the right distro but there are no iso downloads and install over net is un-viable on dial up (not that iso's are easy but i have the option of getting my mate to d/l them on bb) etc etc. tried a damn lot, all seem either too hard or too easy if you knwo what I mean! Especially mandrake, now there's an os for your gran to run!!!!
If I do make the switch permanently I would use winex and the other available tools (vmware) to make the transition a little easier! I think however they are a bad thing in the long term, as they are PRODUCT and PRODUCT is not designed to wean you of itself, it would be contrdictive.
1. windows has never cost me a cent, and it was worth every penny. Fuck microsoft, windows is freeware as far as most people ESPECIALLY students are concerned.
2. FUCK Microsoft and FUCK there eula, I never paid for anything, thus I am not subject to their bullshit. (see warez makes sence with windows!)
I think what it really boils down to it is that it you don't want to run windows to run the windows games then your not really a gamer and companies won't care about you anyway. IE you are too casual a gamer. You are not a market. YOU SUCK;-)
here in the UK a "bandage" is a cotton thing you use to "bandage" things up and make slings and things (well you used to, there are more specific things these days!)
where as a plaster is not a bandage, it's a plaster and NEVER a bandage. Though I guess you probably call plasters bandages for some reason (inbreeding?;-) )
> Companies come out with competing DRM technologies. The industry will become clogged with this stuff, because they all think they're going to get rich if they make _their_ DRM the industry standard.
that's because they probably WILL.
> Consumers say, "Screw that, I don't want disabled junk."
Are not the type of consumers they are after, they more go after the same FAT LARD ASSSED MOTHERFUCKERS that can't survive 5 minutes withough going to McDonalds or BK, or more than likely BOTH. (sorry for the emphasis and stereotyping but, hey it helps and believe me i've met people liek that!)
The consumers (they want) don't know what they want they want what there told they want.
In essence we're all fucked and I persoannly blame americans, because thats all there usefull for.
As a european (UK) the one thing i resent about 75% of my spam is that is intended for americans and even therefore is untterly useless to me (though as spam I would ignore it even if it could be used by me)
Put plainly and in (British) English;-) Hello spammers, see my e-mail addres?.CO.UK do you understand that bit?
Not that I think it will do any difference if it is passed anyway, the US will just pass a law allowing it to ignore international law as it usually does.
2. So you can do it, SO FUCKING WHAT! It needs to be part of standard distros' scripts otherwise the common man is not helped. (just because you can do it, doesn't mean someone else can)
3. Force the vendors? Believe it or not you are not entitled to FORCE anyone to do anything. Yes we need standards, though they can't be forced. They need to be accepted. (you should never go for a job in pr)
4. I'll try hard not to invalidate my point 2. Once you can do things it's easy, what we need is intuative operations (and not intuative used as a pr tool as it often is!)
5. You don;t seem to understand the prtoblem atall. Erasing is NOT the problem, well not unless we have THICK AS PIGSHIT programmers, it's more a we do it but can't do it all in 1 frame so it looks shit, smoothnesss is presented by drawing to a off screen buffer and putting onto the screen when it's ready. this may be slow on slow machines but it never flickers.
6. If programmers knew how to deal with the real world, they'd stop programming and go out into it. I fail to see how this sloves the problem;-)
7. Don;t bne paranoid, they are after you.
8. Again, passing the blame will get you nowhere, except posibly higher up the corperate ladder.
9. HELLO! Gte a clue, soft wrapping it a good thing, it enables me to read my email formated to my screen resolution and not at your, etc.
10. Yes but that needs SETTING UP, as does X. WE need better autodetection, I mean I don't want to have to tell X what resolutions i would like to change bettween before i do. Plus i think he more wanted a nice control panel style changer, that ONLY let's you do valid resolutions automatically.
I'll agree that yes most dvd renters don't thionk about ripping them. But I'd think that amongst the more technically inclined it is more common.
There is software (for windows) that is pretty much "1 click ripping", ie you put in a dvd click rip and you get some isos on your hard drive, though or course the quality of the 1 click rippers is poorer than one you have to configure they do exist and don't require much more than basic computer knowledge to use.
As to downloading, I totally disagree. It is very simple to get moviez, even on dial up!!! ALl you need is a good news server with a retention long enough for you to download. Though yes a lot of people find nntp hard to get to grips with so yes many will just give up, plus on dial up, it really takes time. say 1 to 2 days per cd's worth! It just depends how determined you are.
> IMHO, there is very little difference between mp3 and CD quality. Yes, there are differences, and audiophiles will point this out every time. But the fact is, most users don't care.
It really depends on what you encode at doesn't it. 128 is NO WHERE near good quality (though if you've got shit speakers it's good enough!)
I encode all my mp3's at 128-320 VBR maximum quality using lame ("-b 128 -m s -h -V 0 -B 320" specifically) This is ok nowadays as harddrives are bigger, the files are roughly twice as big as a 128 cbr mp3.
> Now DVD's vs DIVX. Not only can the quality suck (artifacts all the time), but the sound can be totally out of sync, which is really really annoying. Plus, unlike mp3 CD's which can be played in just about any new CD player, DIVX does not play in standalone DVD players without hacking the hardware.
Again, PLEASE REMEBER THAT THE QUALITY DEPENDS THE CHOSEN ENCODING PARAMETERS and that most people compromise a lot on quality to bring the size down.
And yes DIVX isn;t supported on (most) DVD players but what about SVCD? that's good and the quality is sufficiantly better than the other option of VCD, which hey isn't too bad and if all you want to do is rip the film VCD is around the same quality as VHS. (some plus point on vhs, some negative but overall about as good as)
Film "PIRACY" is just as rife on the net as music "PIRACY", a few are put off by the increased size but belive me even dial up users can download a movie given a decent news server with a retention of a least a week.
However maybe the execs in the movie business are a little saner! I mean in the music industry they probably count someone thinking about buying an album and then not as a sale lost to "PIRACY". Maybe the movie execs realise that not even pirated copy is a lost sale (in fact not even 50% of them are lost sales, probably higher)
OTOH maybe people prefer to buy films as they are more of a FIXED place commodity, that is you watch them on your tv, where as CDs cripple music buy tying them down to using them in a place where a player is.
What I mean is music is more using on a computer than a movie. I mean you can't WORK and watch a film, whereas you can work and listen to music (though your boss might dissagree)
After being contacted by church eldars to help improve the church's image to the yonung, mr lucas has decided to rewrite the bible.
He was unable to be contacted for comment but his press office released this, "Mr Lucas thinks that Jar-Jar will fir it perfectally, you'll never belive who he fathers!"
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> not-even-midi-quality song for a ring tone
I feel that my samsung T100 ring tones are certainly at least midi quality.
Though what I want is an open phone platform so I could say for instance run my own program instead of a ring-tone. Then I could have old amiga mods for ring tones! Phones' need more power damn it.
Unfortunatly We're just getting more control-freekiness like the orange spv.
NOTE TO ORANGE:
It's a fucking phone, it's primary purpose in to PHONE PEOPLE. you will not make much revenue selling programs to people and then the one's who would want to do it themselfs certainly don;t want your shite and therefore would not dent your proposed revenue streams. SINGED APPS ARE BAD, YOU KILLED OF YOUR REVENUE STREAM.
bah.
Region 2,4 version actually.
;-)
Which i bought from australia (region 4) when it came out there (1 or 2 months before uk release) and it actually cost cheaper than the uk version did in most places when it came out
> Any for the record... I use Debian, and am running 2.4.19. And I'm pretty sure that even the "main" distribution of Debian now comes with a 2.4 kernel.
;-)
Debian 3 install 2.2 by default but has the OPTION of 2.4 afaik.
Which is near enough for most people, I mena if you are using debian then you should be up to selecting a few options
The PS2 is good for games?
;-) ahh well maybe it will work in the morning after drying out, it is after all a real keyboard! not one of thoses wussy crap things they try to pass off nowadazys.
;-) )
DID any of you play GTA3 on a ps2?
Gah talk about not up to the job!
Now I know that I place myseelf in the "geeky minority" when I say this but the gta3 on the ps2 really sucks as. Why? because the frame rate was really bad. Sorry but the machine is no more up to running gta3 than a spectum 48k is up to running sim city (yes there was a speccy 48k version, let's ztry and forget that!)
now i must go, writing is too much effort beczause i hzave spilt beer on my keyboazrd zand the zz key no longer functions, or azt lezast functions t razndom even when i azm not pressing it. i loose more keyboards that way
oops, sory about the babble.
azs i wazs saying, developers on the ps2 mazke for to azbbitious gazmes thazt the hzardwazre caznnot cope with. (aznd now you see the writing without editing
The existence of alt.binaries.warez.ibm-pc.linux seems to hint at a need
ONLY 12GBP??????
;-).
You've not been down the high street in a while then I take it
You played Tomb Raider 2 - 5 ?
;-)
I'd have though the only violent act you;d be likely to commit after that would be suicide.
Unwanted (used) cdr's make usefull makeshift throwing stars.
That is recycling enough
Nice point. I'm still and the pretty much running win 2k exclusivly (on my main machine) point myself.
I would like to run linux but I havn't found the right distro yet. Actually I think suse is the right distro but there are no iso downloads and install over net is un-viable on dial up (not that iso's are easy but i have the option of getting my mate to d/l them on bb) etc etc. tried a damn lot, all seem either too hard or too easy if you knwo what I mean! Especially mandrake, now there's an os for your gran to run!!!!
If I do make the switch permanently I would use winex and the other available tools (vmware) to make the transition a little easier! I think however they are a bad thing in the long term, as they are PRODUCT and PRODUCT is not designed to wean you of itself, it would be contrdictive.
and to counter your reasons:
;-)
1. windows has never cost me a cent, and it was worth every penny. Fuck microsoft, windows is freeware as far as most people ESPECIALLY students are concerned.
2. FUCK Microsoft and FUCK there eula, I never paid for anything, thus I am not subject to their bullshit. (see warez makes sence with windows!)
I think what it really boils down to it is that it you don't want to run windows to run the windows games then your not really a gamer and companies won't care about you anyway. IE you are too casual a gamer. You are not a market. YOU SUCK
you know what?
;-)
that just makes you sound like a lazy sod rather than make any valid point.
i bet you's support the re-introduction of slavery too if it meant you didn;t have to walk down the shops
>Isn't that what I said?
;-) )
Maybe to the US audience.
here in the UK a "bandage" is a cotton thing you use to "bandage" things up and make slings and things (well you used to, there are more specific things these days!)
where as a plaster is not a bandage, it's a plaster and NEVER a bandage. Though I guess you probably call plasters bandages for some reason (inbreeding?
Damn the subtelties of language!
Next you'll be calling a cormorant a shag.
> Companies come out with competing DRM technologies. The industry will become clogged with this stuff, because they all think they're going to get rich if they make _their_ DRM the industry standard.
that's because they probably WILL.
> Consumers say, "Screw that, I don't want disabled junk."
Are not the type of consumers they are after, they more go after the same FAT LARD ASSSED MOTHERFUCKERS that can't survive 5 minutes withough going to McDonalds or BK, or more than likely BOTH. (sorry for the emphasis and stereotyping but, hey it helps and believe me i've met people liek that!)
The consumers (they want) don't know what they want they want what there told they want.
In essence we're all fucked and I persoannly blame americans, because thats all there usefull for.
> on the subject of names, isnt it kinda offensive they use the term "open"?
;-)
But it sounds freindly and vaguly usefull, sortof like "COPY PROTECTION" which sounds like it does some dort of protection for the user not THEM.
Personally I'd call it "fluffy buuny scheme" that would help make it come to pass better
I really hope this does get passed.
;-) .CO.UK do you understand that bit?
As a european (UK) the one thing i resent about 75% of my spam is that is intended for americans and even therefore is untterly useless to me (though as spam I would ignore it even if it could be used by me)
Put plainly and in (British) English
Hello spammers, see my e-mail addres?
Not that I think it will do any difference if it is passed anyway, the US will just pass a law allowing it to ignore international law as it usually does.
Ahh well, back to the kill filter.
Carrot007.
1. Agreed.
;-)
2. So you can do it, SO FUCKING WHAT! It needs to be part of standard distros' scripts otherwise the common man is not helped. (just because you can do it, doesn't mean someone else can)
3. Force the vendors? Believe it or not you are not entitled to FORCE anyone to do anything. Yes we need standards, though they can't be forced. They need to be accepted. (you should never go for a job in pr)
4. I'll try hard not to invalidate my point 2. Once you can do things it's easy, what we need is intuative operations (and not intuative used as a pr tool as it often is!)
5. You don;t seem to understand the prtoblem atall. Erasing is NOT the problem, well not unless we have THICK AS PIGSHIT programmers, it's more a we do it but can't do it all in 1 frame so it looks shit, smoothnesss is presented by drawing to a off screen buffer and putting onto the screen when it's ready. this may be slow on slow machines but it never flickers.
6. If programmers knew how to deal with the real world, they'd stop programming and go out into it. I fail to see how this sloves the problem
7. Don;t bne paranoid, they are after you.
8. Again, passing the blame will get you nowhere, except posibly higher up the corperate ladder.
9. HELLO! Gte a clue, soft wrapping it a good thing, it enables me to read my email formated to my screen resolution and not at your, etc.
10. Yes but that needs SETTING UP, as does X. WE need better autodetection, I mean I don't want to have to tell X what resolutions i would like to change bettween before i do. Plus i think he more wanted a nice control panel style changer, that ONLY let's you do valid resolutions automatically.
I havn't recieved a e-mail virus in about a year.
Boo Hoo
Carrot007.
I'll agree that yes most dvd renters don't thionk about ripping them. But I'd think that amongst the more technically inclined it is more common.
There is software (for windows) that is pretty much "1 click ripping", ie you put in a dvd click rip and you get some isos on your hard drive, though or course the quality of the 1 click rippers is poorer than one you have to configure they do exist and don't require much more than basic computer knowledge to use.
As to downloading, I totally disagree. It is very simple to get moviez, even on dial up!!! ALl you need is a good news server with a retention long enough for you to download. Though yes a lot of people find nntp hard to get to grips with so yes many will just give up, plus on dial up, it really takes time. say 1 to 2 days per cd's worth! It just depends how determined you are.
Carrot007.
> IMHO, there is very little difference between mp3 and CD quality. Yes, there are differences, and audiophiles will point this out every time. But the fact is, most users don't care.
It really depends on what you encode at doesn't it.
128 is NO WHERE near good quality (though if you've got shit speakers it's good enough!)
I encode all my mp3's at 128-320 VBR maximum quality using lame ("-b 128 -m s -h -V 0 -B 320" specifically) This is ok nowadays as harddrives are bigger, the files are roughly twice as big as a 128 cbr mp3.
> Now DVD's vs DIVX. Not only can the quality suck (artifacts all the time), but the sound can be totally out of sync, which is really really annoying. Plus, unlike mp3 CD's which can be played in just about any new CD player, DIVX does not play in standalone DVD players without hacking the hardware.
Again, PLEASE REMEBER THAT THE QUALITY DEPENDS THE CHOSEN ENCODING PARAMETERS and that most people compromise a lot on quality to bring the size down.
And yes DIVX isn;t supported on (most) DVD players but what about SVCD? that's good and the quality is sufficiantly better than the other option of VCD, which hey isn't too bad and if all you want to do is rip the film VCD is around the same quality as VHS. (some plus point on vhs, some negative but overall about as good as)
Carrot007.
> Wouldn't the fact that movies can be rented make a huge difference in pirating?
;-)
YES! It would probably increase it.
1. Rent DVD
2. Rip to SVCD
3. Repeat...
And given the fact that it costs about a 1/3 of the price to rent as it does to buy (UK) really encourages the people that can to do it.
Though of course if it's a really good film with usefull DVD extras there is more insentive to buy it.
Also some people might rip it first and then buy it later IF they have any spare cash. IF
Carrot007.
Film "PIRACY" is just as rife on the net as music "PIRACY", a few are put off by the increased size but belive me even dial up users can download a movie given a decent news server with a retention of a least a week.
However maybe the execs in the movie business are a little saner! I mean in the music industry they probably count someone thinking about buying an album and then not as a sale lost to "PIRACY". Maybe the movie execs realise that not even pirated copy is a lost sale (in fact not even 50% of them are lost sales, probably higher)
OTOH maybe people prefer to buy films as they are more of a FIXED place commodity, that is you watch them on your tv, where as CDs cripple music buy tying them down to using them in a place where a player is.
What I mean is music is more using on a computer than a movie. I mean you can't WORK and watch a film, whereas you can work and listen to music (though your boss might dissagree)
Carrot007.
Well beyond the fact thats I own over 200 albums and ripped them all. (Not to mention the 150 or so CD singles I ripped)
Quite simple really, at university after moving into a house my entire cd colelction was stolen!
That was over 200 albums then so It's not like I've not bought albums again (including a rare few re-purchases).
Though I do resent having to RE-BUY everything again.
And some of them can't be bought any more, how do I replace them?
Does the music industry care? (NO)
So why should I care.
Carrot007.
nah let's not get into that one ;-)
After being contacted by church eldars to help improve the church's image to the yonung, mr lucas has decided to rewrite the bible.
He was unable to be contacted for comment but his press office released this, "Mr Lucas thinks that Jar-Jar will fir it perfectally, you'll never belive who he fathers!"
----.
Bwah ha haaaaa.
which is why more oftern than not 16bit is really 15bit 5,5,5 + 1 bit for alpha, is it not?