Yup - When I graduated from college, I took a job in Rochester, MN for about the same salary as jobs in/around NYC were offering me (no desire to be on the left coast at all). Less than a year after graduation, I own a 4 bedroom, ~1800sq ft home. Very happy - nice easy payments. In fact, it was about the same price per month as my apartment... not bad...
Now I can live well, and eat well. Mmmm... steak...
should have made it clear that I don't have an Athlon board - the point was that registered mode is supported on some boards/chipsets, and not others...
oh, and the registered ECC tests just about as fast as my standard non-ECC sticks...
My slot-1 Abit BH-6 supports the registered ECC SDRAM that I have (256 meg sticks * 2), but I know it didn't work in another board (that supported 256 meg and ECC...)... I can't remember which that was... shoot. I'd bet that any Asus or Abit board would support it.
yes, I should have been clearer... it's somewhat akin to light in a fiber optic... it refracts and much comes back, but there is some reflection at layer boundaries.
My question should have been more of: Across what frequency ranges does the earth's atmosphere pass emf, and which frequencies are 'trapped' within the atmosphere...
I could figure it out, but I figured some ppl would know offhand, and I didn't want to drag out Cheng's _Field and Wave Electromagnetics_ and scrawl out some radiation equations...
Shortwave signals are bounced back off of the earth's upper atmosphere, as are other signal ranges (AM to some extent, I thought that UHF did, too)... Does ham radio fall into this range, where any of the various layers of the atmosphere (ionosphere most notably) will prevent them from reaching the moon, and vice-versa? If you are only worried about communications outside of the atmosphere, that would be neat, but... there doesn't seem to be a lot of call for that yet.
Neat idea though...
Maybe I should ask KC2BUU and KC2BUT (two friends...)
>How do you know the error correction isn't masking single manufacturing errors in the first place?
Modules should be tested in manufacturing before being shipped. This really does catch many things...
>Of all the web servers, what percentage are using ECC memory?
Well, all <I>real</I> servers use it. Not just PCs geared up to serve things, but boxes with other serveresque features (ex: IBM: RS,AS,390,Netfinity Dell: Poweredge, etc..). These are *not* stock PC backplanes (especially the RISC boxen 8^D), and ship with (usually registered) ECC memory. For everyday PCs, it's not such a big deal, since the rates are very low, and the memory isn't sustained for a long period of time. Some AS/400s, OTOH, can have areas of DRAM preserved for several years, and over time, there's far more chance for an error to occur. ECC lets you do systematic reading of the memory to 'scrub' these errors.
The rates are low, and consumer hardware doesn't need to support reporting and monitoring (extra hw/firmware, plus OS support), so 'just fix it' is usually ok...
I hope there aren't too many boards that fake it. You can ignore the ECC bits, but you shouldn't have a BIOS option to enable ECC, then...
Yeah, I've been more dissapointed the past couple of years with the way Gateway has gone... When I got my Cow(P-100) in '95, they setup a partition scheme custom for me, and when they shipped a replacement drive for a lightning strike (got it less than 18 hours after the tech support call!), it was set up the way I previously had it (aside from the extra gig of space I got)... I was very happy. Not only that, but my case and parts made things very expandable. The only problem was that the motherboard was designed to be secured quite a bit more firmly than most other AT boards, and the case had a number of standoffs that were in fairly non-standard places, so many other boards wouldn't fit in there. I was very happy with that box, and it lasted me quite a while (it got upgraded so much - everything but the MB/Proc), and then I sold it to a friend, who uses it as his linux box to this day. Very nice.
Another friend got a P-200 Cow box, and had numerous troubles with it, but the PII-450 Cow seems even more problematic from the install/driver standpoint... I haven't seen their Athlons (except at the store), so I can't say firsthand how those are... It seems, like many things, the more mass-market they've gotten, the less easily things get for power-users.... Oh well, I'll remmeber the golden days of the Cow fondly (486/earlyP days)...
> Consider herpes, which is present in ~50% of the population, by some estimates,
Which estimates are these (and what is the sample from which these statistics are derived)? I've heard estimates as high as 25% before (for the general population of the US - and those were still supposed to be rather high), but nothing that dramatic. Is this a sample from Singapore, or some other area which has much larger percentages of the population infected with various viruses? Just curious what your source was.
As for the AI growing the way you described... I've heard similar ideas, but, as of yet, nothing that suggests that this is a credible project in the next 5-7 years. Nifty idea though...
that's the problem with words, they are so vague...
artificial = not real virtual = not real imitation = not real
they all have more precise definitions, and each 'not real' means something a little different... and in the case of virtual, it has a couple of different meanings...
>You are comparing the fastest G4 to a 2 year old P2?
Yes, but I was doing it for a reason:I was comparing ~equal MHz procs... Something to do with architecture... (this is also more evidence that you can say just about anything you want by quoting the right #s That was re: >This is pretty definitive evidence that the G4's ARE NOT just as fast as x86 processors at twice their clock rates
Now, if we got some 800/900 MHz G4 equivalents, the architecture trend suggests that they would be superior again... of course, that's even less than vaporware at this point, so it doesn't matter.
These are your Int #s >The G4-450 gets 21.4 20.4 >The P3-866 gets 41.7 41.5 >The Athlon-1000 gets 42.9 42.9
The corresponding FP#s are G4-450: 20.4 P3-866: 33.6 33.5 A-1000: 29.4 Alpha 700: 68.1 54.5 (just to prove *it* can still kick some butt)
No, the G4 *doesn't* beat out x86 chips of twice the clock speed. But at equivalent clock speeds, it gets the job done, and with the right I/O structure around it, it can be rather competetive. I've also commented elsewhere about the fact that AMD and Intel have pushed each other rather well, but this doesn't push the PowerPC line in quite the same way. This isn't to say that the PowerPC isn't being looked at for improvement, just that it still belongs to a different market segment (especially the embedded market). Can't put a small heatsink on a PII/!!! without a fan and hope it still works in the morning either...
(note again, I have never owned a Mac, and don't plan on it soon)
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Ok, it's not really Taco...
but a clever imposter.....
CmdrTaco
Funny, when I reloaded the page, it showed up this way (CmdrTaco) instead of just 'CmdrTaco'...
Hmmm...
I would - just for kicks, but I don't have any mod points...
What intrigues me is that his user page doesn't list the comments he's posted......
Yup - When I graduated from college, I took a job in Rochester, MN for about the same salary as jobs in/around NYC were offering me (no desire to be on the left coast at all). Less than a year after graduation, I own a 4 bedroom, ~1800sq ft home. Very happy - nice easy payments. In fact, it was about the same price per month as my apartment... not bad...
Now I can live well, and eat well. Mmmm... steak...
You only need the drivers license on public ground. You can drive at any age on private land (assuming the owner doesn't mind).
Heh--- almost all of the problems shown in "Good Will Hunting" were rather basic discrete math. Anyone with a month or two of class could do them.
Some were easy enough to solve in real-time while watching the movie...
>Feremat's theory [X^2+Y^2=Z^2]
Isn't that [X^3+Y^3=Z^3] (being impossible for integers?
should have made it clear that I don't have an Athlon board - the point was that registered mode is supported on some boards/chipsets, and not others...
oh, and the registered ECC tests just about as fast as my standard non-ECC sticks...
My slot-1 Abit BH-6 supports the registered ECC SDRAM that I have (256 meg sticks * 2), but I know it didn't work in another board (that supported 256 meg and ECC...)... I can't remember which that was... shoot. I'd bet that any Asus or Abit board would support it.
Underrated...
you can figure out these moderation mysteries by clicking on the # of the post... (that little (#13) there)...
Tough, huh?
On the plus side, there's not usually more than 10 good movies a year out of Hollywood anyway...
Nah, that's just cliche compliant ;-)
yes, I should have been clearer... it's somewhat akin to light in a fiber optic... it refracts and much comes back, but there is some reflection at layer boundaries.
My question should have been more of:
Across what frequency ranges does the earth's atmosphere pass emf, and which frequencies are 'trapped' within the atmosphere...
I could figure it out, but I figured some ppl would know offhand, and I didn't want to drag out Cheng's _Field and Wave Electromagnetics_ and scrawl out some radiation equations...
so pardon the question:
Shortwave signals are bounced back off of the earth's upper atmosphere, as are other signal ranges (AM to some extent, I thought that UHF did, too)... Does ham radio fall into this range, where any of the various layers of the atmosphere (ionosphere most notably) will prevent them from reaching the moon, and vice-versa? If you are only worried about communications outside of the atmosphere, that would be neat, but... there doesn't seem to be a lot of call for that yet.
Neat idea though...
Maybe I should ask KC2BUU and KC2BUT (two friends...)
>How do you know the error correction isn't masking single manufacturing errors in the first place?
Modules should be tested in manufacturing before being shipped. This really does catch many things...
>Of all the web servers, what percentage are using ECC memory?
Well, all <I>real</I> servers use it. Not just PCs geared up to serve things, but boxes with other serveresque features (ex: IBM: RS,AS,390,Netfinity Dell: Poweredge, etc..). These are *not* stock PC backplanes (especially the RISC boxen 8^D), and ship with (usually registered) ECC memory. For everyday PCs, it's not such a big deal, since the rates are very low, and the memory isn't sustained for a long period of time. Some AS/400s, OTOH, can have areas of DRAM preserved for several years, and over time, there's far more chance for an error to occur. ECC lets you do systematic reading of the memory to 'scrub' these errors.
The rates are low, and consumer hardware doesn't need to support reporting and monitoring (extra hw/firmware, plus OS support), so 'just fix it' is usually ok...
I hope there aren't too many boards that fake it. You can ignore the ECC bits, but you shouldn't have a BIOS option to enable ECC, then...
Actually, the AS has an enviornment known as PASE http://www.as400.ibm.com/developer/factory/pase/pf aq.html
This lets you run AIX apps on the 400, though AIX itself isn't really runnin on the 400... just a subset of AIX (APIs and such).
This is more likely the way that things will play out for Linux on the 400...
My dad works for Bell Atlantic.... we all thought it was some sort of Viagra derivative....
old men with cell phones........
Itanium sounds a lot worse than Athlon to me... not that Merced was that much better - made me think of that monkey from 'Friends'...
;-)
>2.PowerPC - It has "power" right in the name. How cool is that?
Note that this was a derivative from the POWER processor, which, being an acronym, is pretty cool all in caps...
>4.Z80 - It sounds like an American muscle car or an Italian sports car.
Almost... too bad the Z28s are the 'woosy' Camaros...
Yeah, I've been more dissapointed the past couple of years with the way Gateway has gone... When I got my Cow(P-100) in '95, they setup a partition scheme custom for me, and when they shipped a replacement drive for a lightning strike (got it less than 18 hours after the tech support call!), it was set up the way I previously had it (aside from the extra gig of space I got)... I was very happy. Not only that, but my case and parts made things very expandable. The only problem was that the motherboard was designed to be secured quite a bit more firmly than most other AT boards, and the case had a number of standoffs that were in fairly non-standard places, so many other boards wouldn't fit in there. I was very happy with that box, and it lasted me quite a while (it got upgraded so much - everything but the MB/Proc), and then I sold it to a friend, who uses it as his linux box to this day. Very nice.
Another friend got a P-200 Cow box, and had numerous troubles with it, but the PII-450 Cow seems even more problematic from the install/driver standpoint... I haven't seen their Athlons (except at the store), so I can't say firsthand how those are... It seems, like many things, the more mass-market they've gotten, the less easily things get for power-users.... Oh well, I'll remmeber the golden days of the Cow fondly (486/earlyP days)...
> Consider herpes, which is present in ~50% of the population, by some estimates,
Which estimates are these (and what is the sample from which these statistics are derived)? I've heard estimates as high as 25% before (for the general population of the US - and those were still supposed to be rather high), but nothing that dramatic. Is this a sample from Singapore, or some other area which has much larger percentages of the population infected with various viruses? Just curious what your source was.
As for the AI growing the way you described... I've heard similar ideas, but, as of yet, nothing that suggests that this is a credible project in the next 5-7 years. Nifty idea though...
>"What's an internet?"
"Can you tread packets. HA HA HA HA HA!"
Isn't there a Stooge Bot or something out there? It seemed a little better than most...
that's the problem with words, they are so vague...
artificial = not real
virtual = not real
imitation = not real
they all have more precise definitions, and each 'not real' means something a little different... and in the case of virtual, it has a couple of different meanings...
Darn imprecise words 8^)
It doesn't know this, either...
Where is the Mayo Clinic
Seems like a pretty easy question...
>but the fact is that you can't get a G4 that is clock speed comparable to an x86 chip
Like I said...
>>of course,that's even less than vaporware at this point, so it doesn't matter.
>You are comparing the fastest G4 to a 2 year old P2?
Yes, but I was doing it for a reason:I was comparing ~equal MHz procs... Something to do with architecture... (this is also more evidence that you can say just about anything you want by quoting the right #s
That was re: >This is pretty definitive evidence that the G4's ARE NOT just as fast as x86 processors at twice their clock rates
Now, if we got some 800/900 MHz G4 equivalents, the architecture trend suggests that they would be superior again... of course, that's even less than vaporware at this point, so it doesn't matter.
These are your Int #s
>The G4-450 gets 21.4 20.4
>The P3-866 gets 41.7 41.5
>The Athlon-1000 gets 42.9 42.9
The corresponding FP#s are
G4-450: 20.4
P3-866: 33.6 33.5
A-1000: 29.4
Alpha 700: 68.1 54.5 (just to prove *it* can still kick some butt)
No, the G4 *doesn't* beat out x86 chips of twice the clock speed. But at equivalent clock speeds, it gets the job done, and with the right I/O structure around it, it can be rather competetive. I've also commented elsewhere about the fact that AMD and Intel have pushed each other rather well, but this doesn't push the PowerPC line in quite the same way. This isn't to say that the PowerPC isn't being looked at for improvement, just that it still belongs to a different market segment (especially the embedded market). Can't put a small heatsink on a PII/!!! without a fan and hope it still works in the morning either...
(note again, I have never owned a Mac, and don't plan on it soon)