From their 'review': The most foul of the foul words was clearly spoken *by the children* at least 131 times and many other times in a muffled or garbled way. The three/four letter word vocabulary was used at least 119 times. God's name in vain was used 11 times without the four letter expletive and 6 times with it."
How many times did they have to see it to count?!?!?! They were probably laughing too loud to count accurately...
I'm a little concerned that we may be all latching onto the idea that they kids who did this did this because they were geeks. In truth we don't know why they did it. It can't be that simple. It just can't be.
The counselors in schools are stereotyping people in the desperate attempt to keep this from happening again, and we ("the geeks") are attaching to this instance in an effort to show how difficult it is for kids (people?) have it in school (or work?) if they're a little different. In effect, we are stereotyping ourselves.
No issue this complex could have a simple root. If it was violence in games/tv/cartoons/whatever, then believe me, I would be on a killing rampage. If it was just a poor family structure, then there would be millions of people on similar sprees that came from broken homes, disfunctional (I hate that word) families, etc.
Also, there are comments demanding that these things be sent to CNN, MSNBC, and etc. We need to be careful there as well, because I don't think we want to send the message that 'geeks are different' because of the way we've been treated, and should be treated specially. What we SHOULD want these networks to do is distribute this so that people who are in the same position in their schools know they aren't alone, and that, since they're not alone, they are 'ok'. The 'geeks' that can't see these notes need to know that there are others out there who have experienced the same taunting, stereotyping, and the like, and have persevered.
The kids that committed this act did it out of hatred, spite, and self-loathing. No one will know what did or didn't contribute to it, and by eliminiating all factors that COULD have contributed to it is not the answer.
These kids gave in to the opinion that they were worthless, and that committing this act, with no plan of surviving, was the only way to show what they felt, from both anger, and self-loathing. What they needed to know is that if the other kids in school did tease/taunt/ridicule these kids into doing it, that is not the answer. Nothing is so hopeless that it should drive you commit this act.
If enough people tell you you're worthless, then you'll start to believe it, and your own estimate of self-worth is better than anyone elses..
Could all the media focus on Linux is just a cleaver ploy to undermine the justice departments case that Windows has a monopoly on the OS market? Also that, once the case has been finished, all this attention will dissappear?
It's interesting to see what Mr. Gates DOESN'T know, but, one point, I think, is valid. From a systems management, it is much easier to manage a Linux box over a NT box. But how about network management. None of the big network monitoring vendors (HP Openview, Netview 6000, centralized backup and restore scheduling like ADSM, and etc.) don't support Linux, and it's almost a MUST HAVE deploying Linux in a large environment (300+ application servers)
Maybe as IBM, HP, and the like start supporting Linux, this will change!
Thankfully, I've never worked on a MAC, but doesn't it suffer the same problems as NT (ok, ONE of the problems)? You can only admin the thing from the console? What good is that?
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From their 'review':
The most foul of the foul words was clearly spoken *by the children* at least 131 times and
many other times in a muffled or garbled way. The three/four letter word vocabulary was used at least 119 times. God's name in vain was used 11 times without the four letter expletive and 6 times with it."
How many times did they have to see it to count?!?!?! They were probably laughing too loud to count accurately...
I'm a little concerned that we may be all latching onto the idea that they kids who did this did this because they were geeks. In truth we don't know why they did it. It can't be that simple. It just can't be.
The counselors in schools are stereotyping people in the desperate attempt to keep this from happening again, and we ("the geeks") are attaching to this instance in an effort to show how difficult it is for kids (people?) have it in school (or work?) if they're a little different. In effect, we are stereotyping ourselves.
No issue this complex could have a simple root. If it was violence in games/tv/cartoons/whatever, then believe me, I would be on a killing rampage. If it was just a poor family structure, then there would be millions of people on similar sprees that came from broken homes, disfunctional (I hate that word) families, etc.
Also, there are comments demanding that these things be sent to CNN, MSNBC, and etc. We need to be careful there as well, because I don't think we want to send the message that 'geeks are different' because of the way we've been treated, and should be treated specially. What we SHOULD want these networks to do is distribute this so that people who are in the same position in their schools know they aren't alone, and that, since they're not alone, they are 'ok'. The 'geeks' that can't see these notes need to know that there are others out there who have experienced the same taunting, stereotyping, and the like, and have persevered.
The kids that committed this act did it out of hatred, spite, and self-loathing. No one will know what did or didn't contribute to it, and by eliminiating all factors that COULD have contributed to it is not the answer.
These kids gave in to the opinion that they were worthless, and that committing this act, with no plan of surviving, was the only way to show what they felt, from both anger, and self-loathing. What they needed to know is that if the other kids in school did tease/taunt/ridicule these kids into doing it, that is not the answer. Nothing is so hopeless that it should drive you commit this act.
If enough people tell you you're worthless, then you'll start to believe it, and your own estimate of self-worth is better than anyone elses..
www.novell.com: /.'d?
Could all the media focus on Linux is just a cleaver ploy to undermine the justice departments case that Windows has a monopoly on the OS market? Also that, once the case has been finished, all this attention will dissappear?
;)
You be the judge...
why not just put that development effort into ADDED the 'missing' stuff to Linux?
:o(
Oh yeah.. they'd have to sell it...
Of course I do. It'll make 'em WORSE, but it'll change 'em...! (Notice that Allchin has all windows development!)
It's interesting to see what Mr. Gates DOESN'T know, but, one point, I think, is valid. From a systems management, it is much easier to manage a Linux box over a NT box. But how about network management. None of the big network monitoring vendors (HP Openview, Netview 6000, centralized backup and restore scheduling like ADSM, and etc.) don't support Linux, and it's almost a MUST HAVE deploying Linux in a large environment (300+ application servers)
Maybe as IBM, HP, and the like start supporting Linux, this will change!
Thankfully, I've never worked on a MAC, but doesn't it suffer the same problems as NT (ok, ONE of the problems)? You can only admin the thing from the console? What good is that?
I took them 2 hours to recover from a DOS finger attack?!?!
I took them 2 hours to recover from a DOS finger attack?!?! killall -9.... :)
Hopefully, they'll start with QUALITY!!!!!
I bet they're only printing it because MS said that Linux was a 'threat' in the DOJ trial.. Anyone REALLY think that MS thinks is a threat?