Canadian law allows for a a judge to order retrial on appeal by either party. That's what is happening in the Guy Turcotte case even as we speak. And if you weren't sane at the time of the offense, you are free to go. The caveat in both countries is for those who become unfit for trial after, not during, their crimes. Once they are again fit, they will usually be tried.
If you're not ready to fight for your rights and freedoms, you deserve neither.
Translation: "Fuck everyone less fortunate than me".
No. It's the less fortunate who too often are the only ones with the guts to fight for their rights, as opposed to the well-off sheeple. People who are well off and content don't want to change their situation, so the initial push for all social progress comes from those who aren't so privileged. Simple fact of life.
Note that the "If you're not ready to fight for your rights and freedoms, you deserve neither" also applies to the fat contented cows of society as well, who simply can't imagine that anyone would dare take away *their* freedoms, because they're privileged. Moo!
1. Release everything
2. Determine which bits are "a problem"
3. Fight for your right to privacy.
Of course, as a political candidate, you'll then be branded as flip flopping on the issue.
No.
1 Release everything
2 If after this, people won't vote for you, that is their free and informed choice.
There is no "right to win" a political office despite what the Bushes seem to think, just a right to run for it. People have a right to a free and informed vote, despite political wankers believing that once you can fake sincerity, you've got it made.
It's all going to come out in the end. If you want to represent the people you're asking to vote for you, shouldn't you actually BE representative of them instead of putting up a false image? If you're not, then maybe the job would be better suited to someone who is.
...most people won't be stupid enough to fall for it.
You're talking about people who believe Mars will look as big as the moon one night of year, who believe Obama isn't a US citizen, who believe aliens are kidnapping probes and shoving them up people's asses, who believe Elvis is still alive, who believe anyone other than humans built the pyramids, etc. And all of them look like Algonquin round table material compared to you if you actually believe what you just said.
Christ you're a fucking idiot.
Or maybe I'm not American so most of the people around me really aren't that stupid. The US is only 5% of the planet's population, hardly what I would call "most people."
I'll make it simple - I don't care what "society as a whole" thinks of me. I'm long done with that crap.:-) As well, if you can't be honest about who and what you are, then you don't merit being a politician in the first place, even if it seems that putting up a false front is part of the whole deal.
So we should allow prudes to dictate the manner in which we express ourselves?
No.
Fuck that.
Where have I said that I have a problem offending prudes? My mere existence offends many fundies who feel what I am is wrong and shameful. Their problem, not mine. As far as I care, if they want to take out a full-page ad denouncing me for being a transsexual, my take would be "well, god bless their cold, evil little hearts":-) They're the ones looking like fools and wasting their resources.
Because the legal Idiots at CBS say they don't have and can't get the rights to a show that was canceled by the executive Idiots at Fox?
So instead of the legal idiots, let CBS use the money people. If there's enough money on the table, Fox will either license the rights for a hefty fee, or see that there's more of a demand than they thought and revive it themselves. Fox's News Corp overlords don't like to leave free money on the table any more than anyone else does.
There's a simple counter-measure - don't be ashamed of anything you do. Kind of hard to exert pressure on someone by revealing their personal stuff if they don't give a sh*t.
The whole point behind pressure isn't because an individual cares about what they've done, it's because of what *society* cares about what they've done.
And WHERE have I said that I give a sh*t what society thinks of me? If an employer wants to fire me because my political views are unpopular with a majority of the population, great. It will end up being a paid vacation plus damages because here it's illegal to fire someone for such a reason.
hold unpopular political views
get fired
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As for Brandon Eich, if we fired everyone who was an assh*le in someone else's view, we'd all be out of a job. Political correctness should NOT stifle free speech that isn't motivated by hate. And even a certain amount of hate speech should be tolerated, if only to give a platform for those who hold a contrary view. If they can't stand the heat when people give them flack, that's their problem, not mine. If he couldn't stand the heat about his anti-gay-marriage donation, it just goes to show that freedom of stupid speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences.
If we can only get along with people who believe all the same things we do, we suck, and need to, shall we say, "grow a pair" (in the metaphorical sense only) before political correctness causes more damage:-)
Why do I care about how people I don't know behave? And for those I know, they already pretty much know all about me, so again, why do I care when it doesn't make a difference to my life?
Besides, if someone doesn't like me for who and what I am, I'd rather know it so I can choose more intelligent company:-)
Castle is getting really hackneyed and long in the tooth. Besides, we can have other stories set in the same universe, same as was done with star trek.
It doesn't "prove the point" that it's what society thinks as a whole. It's hard to argue with the facts when the facts include a court judgment 100% in your favor. Anyone who still wants to believe in unsupported rumor-mongering is an idiot or worse, and if you're worried about what idiots and fools think of you, you have some serious self-esteem issues.
We just saw in Canada again that negative campaigns hurt the one pushing the negativity. Just like we've seen in the US that the republican base doesn't care how much true negative stuff is out there - it won't affect their vote. As for the rest, the republican Benghazi tactics kind of backfired, and everyone is sick and tired of "because EMAIL".
Why would I care? I'm very happy to be able to "give a sh*t" the normal way again, after having had a colostomy for a year and a half. "Brown-bagging it" was an educational experience, and one that makes me sympathetic to those in similar situations, but let's be honest - everyone craps one way or another.
Besides, people can see too many assholes on the Internet already, don't you think?:-)
If you've already put the facts out there, before anyone else makes the allegations, most people won't be stupid enough to fall for it. Those that do would have voted republican / conservative anyway, so no increased losses either way.
Where the heck have I ever indicated that I can control what the public thinks? Find me one example where I've said that, or kindly f*ck off with your trolling:-)
Whatever drugs you're on must be good. There's still a wide gulf between saying "I dont think there's anything wrong with it" vs everybody else thinking there's something wrong with it. The fact you cannot see that, says a lot.
And there's a big difference between "everybody else thinking there's something wrong with it" and a few busybodies getting their underpants all in a knot. The fact that you cannot see that says a lot:-)
Quit being such a worry-wart. Anyone of any consequences who puts stock in unsupported accusations on the Internet needs to be demoted.
Come off it - any employer (or anyone else) who would give any credence to "God told me this" is already too far gone for rational people to want to be around.
I've been stalked both online and in real life. I've had PLENTY of false accusations thrown at me, and had to deal with some of the more serious ones through the court system. Sure, it could do temporary damage for those who don't know you, but so what? And a crushing victory in court more than makes up for it, and makes it that much harder for anyone to take the next round of BS seriously.
Part of our civic duty is to realize that some of us, for whatever reason, are going to be unjustly treated, and that we are going to have to ensure that justice and freedom don't die by standing up against injustice. That makes you a nail, and unfortunately, too many people will want to take out their hammer because $WHATEVER. Just through a random distribution, a few of us will end up having to do this much much more often than many others. It's not a curse - it's just math. When it happens often enough, people just roll their eyes and say "Here we go again. What nut did you offend this time?"
Stop trying to use logic against this person. They live in some magical fantasy land where nobody is ever persecuted for things they have no personal issue against.
Really? So all those protests for other people's rights over the decades (including defending the rights of those who actively spoke out against me because of what I am) and all those court appearances never really happened? No, I think you're the one living in some sort of magical fantasy land. Get yourself punched in the face by cops and thrown in jail a few times for protests and then we can talk.
So instead pf presenting a "cleverly crafted public image" (which is basically a con job), they could have just been themselves. Problem solved.
As for the anti-alcohol and church groups, the majority think they're dogmatic idiots. Have the endorsement of either of these two groups would be the kiss of death here. Then again, Canadians do not tolerate religious interference in the political process. You might want to try it some time.
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Canadian law allows for a a judge to order retrial on appeal by either party. That's what is happening in the Guy Turcotte case even as we speak. And if you weren't sane at the time of the offense, you are free to go. The caveat in both countries is for those who become unfit for trial after, not during, their crimes. Once they are again fit, they will usually be tried.
Translation: "Fuck everyone less fortunate than me".
No. It's the less fortunate who too often are the only ones with the guts to fight for their rights, as opposed to the well-off sheeple. People who are well off and content don't want to change their situation, so the initial push for all social progress comes from those who aren't so privileged. Simple fact of life.
Note that the "If you're not ready to fight for your rights and freedoms, you deserve neither" also applies to the fat contented cows of society as well, who simply can't imagine that anyone would dare take away *their* freedoms, because they're privileged. Moo!
So your proposal is:
1. Release everything 2. Determine which bits are "a problem" 3. Fight for your right to privacy.
Of course, as a political candidate, you'll then be branded as flip flopping on the issue.
No.
1 Release everything
2 If after this, people won't vote for you, that is their free and informed choice.
There is no "right to win" a political office despite what the Bushes seem to think, just a right to run for it. People have a right to a free and informed vote, despite political wankers believing that once you can fake sincerity, you've got it made.
It's all going to come out in the end. If you want to represent the people you're asking to vote for you, shouldn't you actually BE representative of them instead of putting up a false image? If you're not, then maybe the job would be better suited to someone who is.
...most people won't be stupid enough to fall for it.
You're talking about people who believe Mars will look as big as the moon one night of year, who believe Obama isn't a US citizen, who believe aliens are kidnapping probes and shoving them up people's asses, who believe Elvis is still alive, who believe anyone other than humans built the pyramids, etc. And all of them look like Algonquin round table material compared to you if you actually believe what you just said. Christ you're a fucking idiot.
Or maybe I'm not American so most of the people around me really aren't that stupid. The US is only 5% of the planet's population, hardly what I would call "most people."
I'll make it simple - I don't care what "society as a whole" thinks of me. I'm long done with that crap. :-) As well, if you can't be honest about who and what you are, then you don't merit being a politician in the first place, even if it seems that putting up a false front is part of the whole deal.
So we should allow prudes to dictate the manner in which we express ourselves?
No.
Fuck that.
Where have I said that I have a problem offending prudes? My mere existence offends many fundies who feel what I am is wrong and shameful. Their problem, not mine. As far as I care, if they want to take out a full-page ad denouncing me for being a transsexual, my take would be "well, god bless their cold, evil little hearts" :-) They're the ones looking like fools and wasting their resources.
Because the legal Idiots at CBS say they don't have and can't get the rights to a show that was canceled by the executive Idiots at Fox?
So instead of the legal idiots, let CBS use the money people. If there's enough money on the table, Fox will either license the rights for a hefty fee, or see that there's more of a demand than they thought and revive it themselves. Fox's News Corp overlords don't like to leave free money on the table any more than anyone else does.
There's a simple counter-measure - don't be ashamed of anything you do. Kind of hard to exert pressure on someone by revealing their personal stuff if they don't give a sh*t.
The whole point behind pressure isn't because an individual cares about what they've done, it's because of what *society* cares about what they've done.
And WHERE have I said that I give a sh*t what society thinks of me? If an employer wants to fire me because my political views are unpopular with a majority of the population, great. It will end up being a paid vacation plus damages because here it's illegal to fire someone for such a reason.
As for Brandon Eich, if we fired everyone who was an assh*le in someone else's view, we'd all be out of a job. Political correctness should NOT stifle free speech that isn't motivated by hate. And even a certain amount of hate speech should be tolerated, if only to give a platform for those who hold a contrary view. If they can't stand the heat when people give them flack, that's their problem, not mine. If he couldn't stand the heat about his anti-gay-marriage donation, it just goes to show that freedom of stupid speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences.
If we can only get along with people who believe all the same things we do, we suck, and need to, shall we say, "grow a pair" (in the metaphorical sense only) before political correctness causes more damage :-)
Why do I care about how people I don't know behave? And for those I know, they already pretty much know all about me, so again, why do I care when it doesn't make a difference to my life?
Besides, if someone doesn't like me for who and what I am, I'd rather know it so I can choose more intelligent company :-)
Castle is getting really hackneyed and long in the tooth. Besides, we can have other stories set in the same universe, same as was done with star trek.
It doesn't "prove the point" that it's what society thinks as a whole. It's hard to argue with the facts when the facts include a court judgment 100% in your favor. Anyone who still wants to believe in unsupported rumor-mongering is an idiot or worse, and if you're worried about what idiots and fools think of you, you have some serious self-esteem issues.
We just saw in Canada again that negative campaigns hurt the one pushing the negativity. Just like we've seen in the US that the republican base doesn't care how much true negative stuff is out there - it won't affect their vote. As for the rest, the republican Benghazi tactics kind of backfired, and everyone is sick and tired of "because EMAIL".
Why would I care? I'm very happy to be able to "give a sh*t" the normal way again, after having had a colostomy for a year and a half. "Brown-bagging it" was an educational experience, and one that makes me sympathetic to those in similar situations, but let's be honest - everyone craps one way or another.
Besides, people can see too many assholes on the Internet already, don't you think? :-)
If you've already put the facts out there, before anyone else makes the allegations, most people won't be stupid enough to fall for it. Those that do would have voted republican / conservative anyway, so no increased losses either way.
Where the heck have I ever indicated that I can control what the public thinks? Find me one example where I've said that, or kindly f*ck off with your trolling :-)
Whatever drugs you're on must be good. There's still a wide gulf between saying "I dont think there's anything wrong with it" vs everybody else thinking there's something wrong with it. The fact you cannot see that, says a lot.
And there's a big difference between "everybody else thinking there's something wrong with it" and a few busybodies getting their underpants all in a knot. The fact that you cannot see that says a lot :-)
Quit being such a worry-wart. Anyone of any consequences who puts stock in unsupported accusations on the Internet needs to be demoted.
Come off it - any employer (or anyone else) who would give any credence to "God told me this" is already too far gone for rational people to want to be around.
I've been stalked both online and in real life. I've had PLENTY of false accusations thrown at me, and had to deal with some of the more serious ones through the court system. Sure, it could do temporary damage for those who don't know you, but so what? And a crushing victory in court more than makes up for it, and makes it that much harder for anyone to take the next round of BS seriously.
Part of our civic duty is to realize that some of us, for whatever reason, are going to be unjustly treated, and that we are going to have to ensure that justice and freedom don't die by standing up against injustice. That makes you a nail, and unfortunately, too many people will want to take out their hammer because $WHATEVER. Just through a random distribution, a few of us will end up having to do this much much more often than many others. It's not a curse - it's just math. When it happens often enough, people just roll their eyes and say "Here we go again. What nut did you offend this time?"
Stop trying to use logic against this person. They live in some magical fantasy land where nobody is ever persecuted for things they have no personal issue against.
Really? So all those protests for other people's rights over the decades (including defending the rights of those who actively spoke out against me because of what I am) and all those court appearances never really happened? No, I think you're the one living in some sort of magical fantasy land. Get yourself punched in the face by cops and thrown in jail a few times for protests and then we can talk.
So instead pf presenting a "cleverly crafted public image" (which is basically a con job), they could have just been themselves. Problem solved.
As for the anti-alcohol and church groups, the majority think they're dogmatic idiots. Have the endorsement of either of these two groups would be the kiss of death here. Then again, Canadians do not tolerate religious interference in the political process. You might want to try it some time.
Good thing no teachers have ever been fired due to things they've done in their private lives that have no affect on their teaching. Oh wait.
If they shouldn't have been fired, then they should have fought it. They might lose, but it will make it easier to fight the next time.
Or to proactively denounce lies ...
If it becomes a problem later, then fight for your rights. If you're not ready to fight for your rights and freedoms, you deserve neither.
Why not skip YASTS (Yet another star treck series) and bring back Firefly?
It can't get any worse than Enterprise.
Then again, I thought it couldn't get any worse than Voyager, so I could be wrong.
Rule #1 of sequels: It can always get worse.
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