It's funny - my name, home address, and email are on slashdot and there have been no problems. My name, home and email addresses, and phone number are public on (shudder) Facebook and elsewhere, and again, it's not a big deal.
People seem to forget that before the turn of the century there were these big dead-tree books called "Telephone directories", that had your name, phone number, and address for the whole world to see. When someone goes "OMG they have my address", big deal. Really. There are so many personal details out there (lawsuits, marriages and divorces, permits, etc) that it's silly to lose any sleep over it. The Internet has really dumbed down so many people who are on a hair trigger to go "WAAHHH" about anything and everything without engaging their brains.
If you have nothing to hide...
Sad to see such a comment get up modded on Slashdot, of all places.
I guess it really is as dead as what I thought.
I call BS on this. Politicians go into politics knowing that there is no way that they will ever be able to keep all their skeletons in the closet. You can hide all your personal stuff, but if some of it DOES leak out, just own it. If it's nothing you think you should be ashamed of, say so. That's FAR from "if you have nothing to hide."
The downside is that the only people that can run for office are people who knew they wanted to be politicians when they were kids.
Those are the last people to put in charge of anything important. Remember the student council suckups? Those are the only people living boring enough lives to be politicians.
Not true. Obama admits to having used crack, GWB is known to have an alcohol and drug problem, nobody believes Clinton didn't inhale... Heck, internationally notorious former mayor of Toronto Rob Ford got re-elected to city council despite admitting to crack and alcoholism, and all the videos out there of him losing it time after time. Anyone who looks too good is immediately suspect.
context is everything. Just because you do something that is good, does not mean that people cannot just publicize part of it and make it look bad.
So let them. They're going to do it anyway, and they're just setting themselves up for looking like stupid dishonest manipulative SOBs to anyone who looks into it.
don't be ashamed of anything you do. Kind of hard to exert pressure on someone by revealing their personal stuff if they don't give a sh*t.
That only works up to the point that it's something that nobody cares about either.
Actually, no. As long as you don't care, then you're also not going to care if someone else is getting bent out of something. Case in point - there are plenty of people who voice negative opinions about transsexuals, but it doesn't bother me that what I am upsets them. As far as I'm concerned, they're the ones with the problem. Same thing with anything that some people attach stigma to, such as mental illness. It's not "who gives a damn?" but "who in MY life gives a damn?"
TANSTAAFL, which is another way of saying that sometimes you will have to step up to the plate and deal with such issues no matter how hard you try to keep everything private, so just deal with it already instead of waiting for the other shoe to drop:-)
When you go into politics, you know that sort of stuff comes with the territory. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
As for business leaders, you get videoed kicking a dog, you know there's going to be backlash. So unless you're a moron, don't kick dogs. Or live with the consequences, same as everyone else. It's not rocket science.
"Don't do anything that you wouldn't want to see on the front page of the New York Times."
-- Confucius:-)
It's still good advice. Unfortunately, many people are still ashamed of some aspects of their lives (physical, mental, sexual, etc) that they feel they need to keep in the closet. We're still prudes in many ways, and with the current trend to political correctness, we're becoming worse in some ways.
The problem is, as even Pontius Pilate allegedly said, "What is truth?" Truth and justice are subjective. Case in point - we are currently seeing a cardiologist named Guy Turcotte going through a second trial for killing his two young children (no double jeopardy laws here). A jury originally determined he was not criminally responsible at the time because of his mental state. But no matter what the outcome, even if we assume he was sane at the time, there's got to be something wrong or broken inside with someone who kills their kids. Doing this is so outside the norms that there's got to be something screwed up with their thinking process for them to believe this is a good course of action.
The worst part? If he was insane at the time, returning to sanity and realizing the true import of what he has done is the cruelest punishment possible. How does anyone live with that without it driving them insane?
There's a simple counter-measure - don't be ashamed of anything you do. Kind of hard to exert pressure on someone by revealing their personal stuff if they don't give a sh*t.
Maybe we *should* just ignore it. Along the lines of "don't feed the trolls" rather than giving them an audience. We've become too politically correct, and its time for the pendulum to swing the other way.
Mental illness certainly is a defense, for arguing diminished capacity/extenuating circumstances, and for arguing the inability to distinguish right from wrong at the moment because of their distorted view of reality. Any jury properly instructed by the judge will not view mental illness as stigmatizing. This is not the 20th century - mental illness carries less and less stigma every year,
Now, since you bring up depression...
I freely admit to having both post-traumatic stress and major depressive disorders. I don't feel stigmatized. To the contrary, considering that 1 in 25 people has some sort of mental illness in any particular year, and 20% or more will be mentally ill at some point in their lives, what stigma? All it means is that I'm human and I've been through some terrible things.
Never accomplished anything of note? And this doesn't include a LOT of things,from being in WW2 well before the US to the CANDU nuclear reactor. And as global warming makes more of our north habitable, guess who will be loosing habitable areas in the gulf?
No we are not going to take advice from the mentally ill.
Looking at all the people who support the current republican candidates (and the candidates themselves), a good portion of your population has some sort of psychosis (disconnect from reality). And it's not just us saying it.
Easy - just leave your Christmas lights up from last year, an old Christmas tree in the yard, and some Easter stuff spread around. Your house will look like nobody's alive and you can have all the Halloween goodies to yourself! AND not worried about getting your house or car egged.
If someone is mentally ill to the point where they could not, at some time, tell right from wrong, they are not held criminally responsible, and are committed to a hospital until they are deemed to be a lower risk.
Which means like NEVER.
Maybe it works like that in the USA, where the crazies are running the show, but you might want to take a trip to your neighbor to the north, or look east to Europe.
The militia at the time was defined as white male property owners between 18 and 45, and they were to store their rifles in their attics when not in use. Even going back to that standard would be an improvement.
Also, Canada is larger in area than the US, and people prefer to live here in part because of the lesser gun violence, in part because of universal health care, and in part because we don't let the NRA and right-wing religion into our politics.
You might like to enjoy one of our resorts for citizen's welfare for some time. Please remain calm and wait for our help squad to pick you up.
It's cheaper and usually more effective to give people who are seriously depressed therapy, support, and as a last resort, medication, than it is to throw them in a mental ward. Besides, there are plenty of people who urgently need help, but can't get it because the resources just aren't there. They would love a way to get to the head of the line.
the coddling of people with therapy/drugs/feedback who know damned well what is wrong with them because they are intelligent, and lack only the (mental, figurative) kick in the arse that they can only supply themselves.
Hope you never get PTSD or Major Depressive Disorder. But hey, kick yourself in the arse all you want instead of seeking help. If it's serious enough and goes on long enough, you'll find that you can no longer push the dark clouds back no matter how hard you try.
Slashdot Mirror
It's funny - my name, home address, and email are on slashdot and there have been no problems. My name, home and email addresses, and phone number are public on (shudder) Facebook and elsewhere, and again, it's not a big deal.
People seem to forget that before the turn of the century there were these big dead-tree books called "Telephone directories", that had your name, phone number, and address for the whole world to see. When someone goes "OMG they have my address", big deal. Really. There are so many personal details out there (lawsuits, marriages and divorces, permits, etc) that it's silly to lose any sleep over it. The Internet has really dumbed down so many people who are on a hair trigger to go "WAAHHH" about anything and everything without engaging their brains.
If you have nothing to hide... Sad to see such a comment get up modded on Slashdot, of all places. I guess it really is as dead as what I thought.
I call BS on this. Politicians go into politics knowing that there is no way that they will ever be able to keep all their skeletons in the closet. You can hide all your personal stuff, but if some of it DOES leak out, just own it. If it's nothing you think you should be ashamed of, say so. That's FAR from "if you have nothing to hide."
The downside is that the only people that can run for office are people who knew they wanted to be politicians when they were kids.
Those are the last people to put in charge of anything important. Remember the student council suckups? Those are the only people living boring enough lives to be politicians.
Not true. Obama admits to having used crack, GWB is known to have an alcohol and drug problem, nobody believes Clinton didn't inhale ... Heck, internationally notorious former mayor of Toronto Rob Ford got re-elected to city council despite admitting to crack and alcoholism, and all the videos out there of him losing it time after time. Anyone who looks too good is immediately suspect.
context is everything. Just because you do something that is good, does not mean that people cannot just publicize part of it and make it look bad.
So let them. They're going to do it anyway, and they're just setting themselves up for looking like stupid dishonest manipulative SOBs to anyone who looks into it.
don't be ashamed of anything you do. Kind of hard to exert pressure on someone by revealing their personal stuff if they don't give a sh*t.
That only works up to the point that it's something that nobody cares about either.
Actually, no. As long as you don't care, then you're also not going to care if someone else is getting bent out of something. Case in point - there are plenty of people who voice negative opinions about transsexuals, but it doesn't bother me that what I am upsets them. As far as I'm concerned, they're the ones with the problem. Same thing with anything that some people attach stigma to, such as mental illness. It's not "who gives a damn?" but "who in MY life gives a damn?"
TANSTAAFL, which is another way of saying that sometimes you will have to step up to the plate and deal with such issues no matter how hard you try to keep everything private, so just deal with it already instead of waiting for the other shoe to drop :-)
Awesome idea. People would appreciate the candor.
When you go into politics, you know that sort of stuff comes with the territory. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
As for business leaders, you get videoed kicking a dog, you know there's going to be backlash. So unless you're a moron, don't kick dogs. Or live with the consequences, same as everyone else. It's not rocket science.
Kind of hard to "take advantage of it" if it's old news to everyone.
"Don't do anything that you wouldn't want to see on the front page of the New York Times." :-)
-- Confucius
It's still good advice. Unfortunately, many people are still ashamed of some aspects of their lives (physical, mental, sexual, etc) that they feel they need to keep in the closet. We're still prudes in many ways, and with the current trend to political correctness, we're becoming worse in some ways.
The problem is, as even Pontius Pilate allegedly said, "What is truth?" Truth and justice are subjective. Case in point - we are currently seeing a cardiologist named Guy Turcotte going through a second trial for killing his two young children (no double jeopardy laws here). A jury originally determined he was not criminally responsible at the time because of his mental state. But no matter what the outcome, even if we assume he was sane at the time, there's got to be something wrong or broken inside with someone who kills their kids. Doing this is so outside the norms that there's got to be something screwed up with their thinking process for them to believe this is a good course of action.
The worst part? If he was insane at the time, returning to sanity and realizing the true import of what he has done is the cruelest punishment possible. How does anyone live with that without it driving them insane?
The easter stuff was put out by zombies :-)
There's a simple counter-measure - don't be ashamed of anything you do. Kind of hard to exert pressure on someone by revealing their personal stuff if they don't give a sh*t.
Maybe we *should* just ignore it. Along the lines of "don't feed the trolls" rather than giving them an audience. We've become too politically correct, and its time for the pendulum to swing the other way.
Simpler explanation - power trip. Look at how many SJWs, hyper feminists, etc try to control the discussion by engaging in preemptive framing.
Mental illness certainly is a defense, for arguing diminished capacity/extenuating circumstances, and for arguing the inability to distinguish right from wrong at the moment because of their distorted view of reality. Any jury properly instructed by the judge will not view mental illness as stigmatizing. This is not the 20th century - mental illness carries less and less stigma every year,
Now, since you bring up depression ...
I freely admit to having both post-traumatic stress and major depressive disorders. I don't feel stigmatized. To the contrary, considering that 1 in 25 people has some sort of mental illness in any particular year, and 20% or more will be mentally ill at some point in their lives, what stigma? All it means is that I'm human and I've been through some terrible things.
How is the Hindu reincarnation system, (and the caste system) merciful, truthful, or justified? It's not.
No we are not going to take advice from the mentally ill.
Looking at all the people who support the current republican candidates (and the candidates themselves), a good portion of your population has some sort of psychosis (disconnect from reality). And it's not just us saying it.
Hey don't blame me - it was YOUR constitution that started out as a racist, misogynist document to preserve power only in the hands of old white men.
Easy - just leave your Christmas lights up from last year, an old Christmas tree in the yard, and some Easter stuff spread around. Your house will look like nobody's alive and you can have all the Halloween goodies to yourself! AND not worried about getting your house or car egged.
Buggering up the routing of most of the traffic from China and a few other places to the rest of the world might be a good idea ...
This is moronic. Sure, you can do it - but should you?
If someone is mentally ill to the point where they could not, at some time, tell right from wrong, they are not held criminally responsible, and are committed to a hospital until they are deemed to be a lower risk.
Which means like NEVER.
Maybe it works like that in the USA, where the crazies are running the show, but you might want to take a trip to your neighbor to the north, or look east to Europe.
Also, Canada is larger in area than the US, and people prefer to live here in part because of the lesser gun violence, in part because of universal health care, and in part because we don't let the NRA and right-wing religion into our politics.
You might like to enjoy one of our resorts for citizen's welfare for some time. Please remain calm and wait for our help squad to pick you up.
It's cheaper and usually more effective to give people who are seriously depressed therapy, support, and as a last resort, medication, than it is to throw them in a mental ward. Besides, there are plenty of people who urgently need help, but can't get it because the resources just aren't there. They would love a way to get to the head of the line.
the coddling of people with therapy/drugs/feedback who know damned well what is wrong with them because they are intelligent, and lack only the (mental, figurative) kick in the arse that they can only supply themselves.
Hope you never get PTSD or Major Depressive Disorder. But hey, kick yourself in the arse all you want instead of seeking help. If it's serious enough and goes on long enough, you'll find that you can no longer push the dark clouds back no matter how hard you try.