Which just brings up another question - IF the parent company has sold over 4,000 of these, why do they need ANY crowd-funding? Bad management causing low return on capital for reinvestment in the business? Marginal profitability leading to inability to secure funding through regular channels, such as bank loans? The need to put up legal and financial barriers between the two businesses so if one goes bust...?
Sales of 4,000 units at $10k a piece is $40 million in gross sales. Sounds like bad management to me if they have to make a spin-off to crowd-beg, rather than re-investing from their own profits. Or is this just a cheap way to get pre-orderes and generate some free hype with no risk capital?
When I see one of these in the firehose and it looks suspicious when I check them out, I down-vote it. But obviously there are plenty of people who disagree. What can I say:-)
They haven't "met the needs" of anybody - the product does NOT exist, and they were just installers for (some portion of) the previous product. They haven't EVER brought a product to market themselves.
The problem with both these positions (yours and the one above yours) is that it ignores one crucial fact - their best channel for recruiting is social media. It's free and has a wide audience.
Cut that off and what are they going to do? Send millions of spam email inviting people to join ISIS as suicide bombers?
Cutting them off forces them to fall back on older recruiting methods that are way more expensive (person - to - person), with a high risk of getting caught, and take a lot longer to produce results.
Well, there's the problem of Facebook sending messages to your circle of friends pretending to be you, recommending or promoting stuff from their advertisers in your name. Fraudulent impersonation is illegal,
You agree under their ToS "you permit a business or other entity to pay us to display your name and/or profile picture with your content or information".
What facebook is now doing (by sending ads that claim to have been sent by YOU) goes far beyond that limited permission. It's also, since they are the ones composing the ads, definitely NOT your content - it's theirs. This is called fraudulent impersonation here in Kanuckistan under section 403 of the criminal code:
403. Identity fraud
403. (1) Everyone commits an offence who fraudulently personates another person, living or dead,
(a) with intent to gain advantage for themselves or another person;
(b) with intent to obtain any property or an interest in any property;
(c) with intent to cause disadvantage to the person being personated or another person; or
(d) with intent to avoid arrest or prosecution or to obstruct, pervert or defeat the course of justice.
Clarification
(2) For the purposes of subsection (1), personating a person includes pretending to be the person or using the person’s identity information — whether by itself or in combination with identity information pertaining to any person — as if it pertains to the person using it.
Punishment
(3) Everyone who commits an offence under subsection (1)
(a) is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term of not more than 10 years; or
(b) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction.
I'd be interested in what problems and treatments you specifically experienced success with. Of course that is personal. I do not mean to be invasive/rude, so I do not at all expect a reply.
Yes, it is personal, but in the interest of debate, here's why I trust my doctors:
Juvenile Diabetes - insulin (otherwise I'd be dead.)
Knee - surgery (otherwise I'd be crippled for life)
Double Pneumonia - xrays that confirmed (even to my untrained eye) that my lungs were pretty full, lots and lots of different (and painful) antibiotic IVs (considering I had been hallucinating for a couple of days before being admitted, and could barely move, I would have died if there had been much more delay)
Unknown Infection - 3 weeks in the hospital, all sorts of MRIs, xrays, blood tests, IVs, other stuff that I don't remember. (Doctor told me either be admitted immediately or go home and probably die - I was REALLY sick, so no complaints, but we'll list this as unknown outcome)
Double hernia - (otherwise I'd be crippled for life)
Flesh eating disease - 6 surgeries, 7 CT scans, temporary colostomy, a ton of antibiotics, lots of other treatment - (otherwise I'd be dead)
Proliferative Diabetic Retinopathy - about 4,000 laser burns on each retina over the course of 3 years to help stop bleeding and delay when I will eventually go blind (otherwise I'd already be completely blind)
Blind in one eye - a vitrectomy (that's where they stick 3 big needles in your eyeball and drain the accumulated blood and clots, as well as removing the membrane growth atop the retina (otherwise, I'd be totally blind in my left eye)
Male-to-Female Transsexualism - too much to list in one little post, but you can find out way more than you wanted to know by searching on the web:-), (otherwise I'd be dead)
Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder and Major Depressive Disorder - medication, complete psychological evaluation, therapy
Obviously I see my endocrinologist 2-3 times a year for blood tests to monitor the HRT and insulin therapy, my retinal ophthalmologist twice a year to monitor and treat my retinas as required, and my psychiatrist either every six months, or as required when things go bad.
So to summarize, I'd be dead, crippled, dead, inknown, crippled, dead, completely blind, blind in one eye, dead, and once more, dead.
(NOTE: this list may not be conclusive)
When my doctors say jump, I jump. They've always been good to explain what they're doing and why, and thanks to them I'm still alive and kicking. I trust them with my life, obviously. Now, your turn:-)
We already have known for more than a year that the smog from China is affecting the entire West Coast. Just search for "smog from china west coast".
So, no federal standards for medicines and foods (FDA), no Clean Water Act and Water Quality Act, no uniform standards for car bumpers or crash safety, etc. Consumer satelite TV and Internet wouldn't exist... or cell phones since frequency allocation is a problem.
Sounds like a lousy place to live. Please go live there as soon as possible.
Restaurants would hate this. Not only does it break the ambiance, but good wait staff know how to follow their regular customer's tempo. If I wanted a cold faceless experience I could get that at any of the fat-food / fast-food chains.
Problems with this story:
1. They haven't even stated how much they want to collect
2. They claim to have done over 4,000 installations of an earlier variant:
"Lumo's founders come from game development, engineering, and interactive interfaces. In 2011, the company started selling an interactive projection display platform (Po-motion.com) that includes a complete creative suite and a remote content management system. This system has been used in over 4000 commercial and museum displays worldwide by clients such as Google, Adidas, Coca-Cola and Air New Zealand."
Notice how misleading that statement is? A different platform, owned by someone else, has sold over 4,000 units. They themselves may have sold a few of them, but this in NO way shows that they have the ability to produce such a system themselves.
3. I smell legal problems for what is clearly a knock-off.
These crowd-funding stories are becoming more of a joke every day.
Why not block portions of Facebook and Twitter, which are used as recruiting tools and communications channels? (Though a block of ALL of Facebook and Twitter would be popular with everyone tired of the "chatter")?
That philosophy is "the government we need to protect civil rights and institute necessary regulations, but not more than that
So what would have happened if it were up to the individual states for Roe v Wade (esp. with the yearly cowardly renewal of the Hyde Amendment) ? And considering the economic benefits we've had from the space race, which was a federal program, which was neither protecting civil rights no necessary regulations, do you really want to give up those advances? Federal exhaust emissions? Minimum Corporate Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards?
Stooping to personal insults doesn't help your argument. Besides, up here in Kanuckistan even our right-wing Conservative party is to the left of the US Democrats.
There are times that a drug looks promising in small trials, but after larger trials, shows no significant benefit. Premature release means a lot of waste AND a lot of people who will have a false sense of security. Then there's DES (Diethylstilbestrol) and Thalidomide...
That's a great reply. Makes me glad that my water supply is from the Gulf of Saint Lawrence (well, except for what may have been dumped in it upstream and not removed by the filtration plant).
That's because they were designed for SimCity4, which has MUCH longer roadways than SimCity5:-)
You know, it started off small, and just grew and grew...
Maybe they just figured that they can leverage their brands on ALL platforms, they'll make more $$$. After all, if a console fails, you've got a lot of money tied up in goods that you'll have to severely discount.
Plus, you need to ship a console at a specific time to make the most bang - the end-of-year holidays - and your competitors are doing the same.
And of course, they don't even have to ship physical media any more.
If you're going to try a hackneyed troll like this, kid, learn to be a little more subtle. You're like a guy running naked through a shopping mall, screaming "I'm a troll, I'm a troll! Please give me some attention! Pleeeeease!!!"
I say that guy. Trust me, he should have kept his clothes on, because when I looked, there was nothing to see there:-)
Slashdot Mirror
Which just brings up another question - IF the parent company has sold over 4,000 of these, why do they need ANY crowd-funding? Bad management causing low return on capital for reinvestment in the business? Marginal profitability leading to inability to secure funding through regular channels, such as bank loans? The need to put up legal and financial barriers between the two businesses so if one goes bust ...?
Sales of 4,000 units at $10k a piece is $40 million in gross sales. Sounds like bad management to me if they have to make a spin-off to crowd-beg, rather than re-investing from their own profits. Or is this just a cheap way to get pre-orderes and generate some free hype with no risk capital?
When I see one of these in the firehose and it looks suspicious when I check them out, I down-vote it. But obviously there are plenty of people who disagree. What can I say :-)
They haven't "met the needs" of anybody - the product does NOT exist, and they were just installers for (some portion of) the previous product. They haven't EVER brought a product to market themselves.
There are cost-sharing programs for "orphan drugs".
The problem with both these positions (yours and the one above yours) is that it ignores one crucial fact - their best channel for recruiting is social media. It's free and has a wide audience.
Cut that off and what are they going to do? Send millions of spam email inviting people to join ISIS as suicide bombers?
Cutting them off forces them to fall back on older recruiting methods that are way more expensive (person - to - person), with a high risk of getting caught, and take a lot longer to produce results.
403. Identity fraud
403. (1) Everyone commits an offence who fraudulently personates another person, living or dead,
(a) with intent to gain advantage for themselves or another person;
(b) with intent to obtain any property or an interest in any property;
(c) with intent to cause disadvantage to the person being personated or another person; or
(d) with intent to avoid arrest or prosecution or to obstruct, pervert or defeat the course of justice.
Clarification
(2) For the purposes of subsection (1), personating a person includes pretending to be the person or using the person’s identity information — whether by itself or in combination with identity information pertaining to any person — as if it pertains to the person using it.
Punishment
(3) Everyone who commits an offence under subsection (1)
(a) is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term of not more than 10 years; or
(b) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction.
I'd be interested in what problems and treatments you specifically experienced success with. Of course that is personal. I do not mean to be invasive/rude, so I do not at all expect a reply.
Yes, it is personal, but in the interest of debate, here's why I trust my doctors:
Obviously I see my endocrinologist 2-3 times a year for blood tests to monitor the HRT and insulin therapy, my retinal ophthalmologist twice a year to monitor and treat my retinas as required, and my psychiatrist either every six months, or as required when things go bad.
So to summarize, I'd be dead, crippled, dead, inknown, crippled, dead, completely blind, blind in one eye, dead, and once more, dead.
(NOTE: this list may not be conclusive)
When my doctors say jump, I jump. They've always been good to explain what they're doing and why, and thanks to them I'm still alive and kicking. I trust them with my life, obviously. Now, your turn :-)
We already have known for more than a year that the smog from China is affecting the entire West Coast. Just search for "smog from china west coast".
So, no federal standards for medicines and foods (FDA), no Clean Water Act and Water Quality Act, no uniform standards for car bumpers or crash safety, etc. Consumer satelite TV and Internet wouldn't exist ... or cell phones since frequency allocation is a problem.
Sounds like a lousy place to live. Please go live there as soon as possible.
Restaurants would hate this. Not only does it break the ambiance, but good wait staff know how to follow their regular customer's tempo. If I wanted a cold faceless experience I could get that at any of the fat-food / fast-food chains.
Problems with this story:
1. They haven't even stated how much they want to collect
2. They claim to have done over 4,000 installations of an earlier variant:
"Lumo's founders come from game development, engineering, and interactive interfaces. In 2011, the company started selling an interactive projection display platform (Po-motion.com) that includes a complete creative suite and a remote content management system. This system has been used in over 4000 commercial and museum displays worldwide by clients such as Google, Adidas, Coca-Cola and Air New Zealand."
Notice how misleading that statement is? A different platform, owned by someone else, has sold over 4,000 units. They themselves may have sold a few of them, but this in NO way shows that they have the ability to produce such a system themselves.
3. I smell legal problems for what is clearly a knock-off.
These crowd-funding stories are becoming more of a joke every day.
Why not block portions of Facebook and Twitter, which are used as recruiting tools and communications channels? (Though a block of ALL of Facebook and Twitter would be popular with everyone tired of the "chatter")?
I'll stick with my medical practitioners, thanks. So far, they're batting 1,000.
That philosophy is "the government we need to protect civil rights and institute necessary regulations, but not more than that
So what would have happened if it were up to the individual states for Roe v Wade (esp. with the yearly cowardly renewal of the Hyde Amendment) ? And considering the economic benefits we've had from the space race, which was a federal program, which was neither protecting civil rights no necessary regulations, do you really want to give up those advances? Federal exhaust emissions? Minimum Corporate Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards?
Your soiled underpants are showing, dude.
Stooping to personal insults doesn't help your argument. Besides, up here in Kanuckistan even our right-wing Conservative party is to the left of the US Democrats.
There are times that a drug looks promising in small trials, but after larger trials, shows no significant benefit. Premature release means a lot of waste AND a lot of people who will have a false sense of security. Then there's DES (Diethylstilbestrol) and Thalidomide ...
n/t
Libertarians get upset about everything. This makes them pretty much everybody who perceives their ox is being gored, or their dogma run over.
That's a great reply. Makes me glad that my water supply is from the Gulf of Saint Lawrence (well, except for what may have been dumped in it upstream and not removed by the filtration plant).
That's because they were designed for SimCity4, which has MUCH longer roadways than SimCity5 :-)
...
You know, it started off small, and just grew and grew
Maybe they just figured that they can leverage their brands on ALL platforms, they'll make more $$$. After all, if a console fails, you've got a lot of money tied up in goods that you'll have to severely discount.
Plus, you need to ship a console at a specific time to make the most bang - the end-of-year holidays - and your competitors are doing the same.
And of course, they don't even have to ship physical media any more.
It's time to shield your RAM or hope you got EEC.
Nah, nothing bad will ha(%^%^$##*
Facebook has way too many fake contests, chain posting asking you to share with everyone, etc.
This will quickly enable all sorts of scams.
But yes, email transfer is fast (for both sides) and cheap. The recipient doesn't have to wait "until the cheque clears."
The original Sim City
was ahead of its time
not another platform shooter
it was so new and so fine
SimCity 2k
added isometric view,
a larger land area
I bought it too
SimCity 3k
had its own little quirks
with landfills and stuff
but I liked how it works
SimCity 4
16 times the size
and graphics so sweet
you won't believe your eyes
Then came SimCity 5
like a zombie in heat
Screwed everything in sight
It was Maxis defeat
The moral is plain
for all to see
give people more, not less
and they'll pay the fee
But get greedy and gouge
for something smaller? goodbye!
Please shove your DLC
up your a** and die.
R.I.P. the REAL SimCities
they were lost long ago,
Grieve for what could have been,
Curse EAs lack of soul!
Burma Shave
If you're going to try a hackneyed troll like this, kid, learn to be a little more subtle. You're like a guy running naked through a shopping mall, screaming "I'm a troll, I'm a troll! Please give me some attention! Pleeeeease!!!"
I say that guy. Trust me, he should have kept his clothes on, because when I looked, there was nothing to see there :-)