the economic data suggests that automation isn't happening on a large scale
And 10 years ago, lthe economic data said that smartphone app sales were not happening at all (since there was no such thing as an app store until 2008). Some people need to re-learn the lessons about "tipping points" or watch how even something as seemingly innocuous as a loud sound can trigger an avalanche that destroys all in its' path.
Instead of hypothesizing, why not actually try it? Android's current "assistive" mode is f*cked. The gesture one will be worse.
It's easy/hard enough when you can see what mode you're in (and what application) to figure out the range of appropriate gestures at the moment. But when you can't? All it takes is one wrong move to open up the wrong application, switch to the wrong screen, etc. Once you're disorientated, with no way of visually verifying what's wrong, your only real action is to power down and restart so you can know where you are starting from, unless you can get voice control.
It's why I'm keeping my old flip phone as a backup. It's simple. It's got real buttons. The input method doesn't change depending on what I'm doing.
And yet Sanders would have wiped his clock, no matter what Trump or the Russians would have done. The Trump presidency lies squarely on the shoulders of Clinton and the DNC.
But won't shill trolls be replaced by AI even sooner?
They already have. The most prolific one on slashdot goes by the nym "Anonymous Coward." There are ongoing bot wars on twitter, facebook, and even wikipedia.
Problem is, HR people work for the company, not the employee, so it's not in their best interest to be fair in administering benefits, and their idea of "keeping everything legal" is covering the company's ass from lawsuits brought by wronged employees. A union can be a great equalizer.
A future in which human workers are replaced by machines is about to become a reality at an insurance firm in Japan, where more than 30 employees are being laid off and replaced with an artificial intelligence system that can calculate payouts to policyholders.
Fukoku Mutual Life Insurance believes it will increase productivity by 30% and see a return on its investment in less than two years. The firm said it would save about 140m yen (£1m) a year after the 200m yen (£1.4m) AI system is installed this month. Maintaining it will cost about 15m yen (£100k) a year.
The move is unlikely to be welcomed, however, by 34 employees who will be made redundant by the end of March.
So, once the initial cost is covered (in 2 years), it will only cost $300 a month per employee replaced. That's like having wage slaves working for $1.50 an hour. There's no way for humans to compete with that.
You must have missed this a week ago. Also, this. Cut-n-paste coders with no real insight will be the first against the wall, along with their bosses, and the hr droids. They will not be missed.
One consequence will be removing the bullsh*t "hour of code" for school kids - something that most of us here recognize as stupid. Another will be killing off the SJWs who are platforming on the evils of the tech world, which in reality are no worse than anywhere else (it's a mess everywhere - and you can be damn sure SJWs aren't going to fix it*).
Training is the most popular initiative to increase workplace diversity, according to a study of 829 tech and non-tech private companies over 31 years. Four in 10 companies offered bias training in 2002. Yet training had “no positive effects in the average workplace,” the study found.
The numbers of women in computing have taken a nose dive for over two decades. Data from the American Association for University Women (2015) and WebCASPAR (2015).
Diversity efforts have been especially futile in the tech sector. The percentage of women among US tech workers has steadily declined over the past two decades, for instance, now standing at 26%.
The field is toxic for both sexes - it's become more and more of a dead end where you'd better have a backup plan when you're perceived as "too old to code", or you're hosed. It's easier for women to leave because the sexism and gender bias give an additional incentive not to "tough it out" - it's one more straw on the proverbial camel's back - but men are also getting their lives turned to sh*t by the crappy bosses who think that "beatings will continue until creativity improves" actually works.
And yet my point remains - "cut-n-paste via google" coders probably have huge gaps in their knowledge, so they will be the first to be replaced by AI, within the next decade. They're also time wasters. And they probably can't figure out 3 different ways to do the same thing, and then pick the optimal one for the situation (because the first solution is rarely the best).
They won't actually know why something does what it does, just that "I found it on the net and it works." Good luck modifying it.
Look at who is saying it, and it's easy to spot the stupidity
Karla Monterroso, VP of programs for Code2040, an organization for black and Latino techies
Created less than a year ago. "Oh, look, let's create jobs for ourselves by exploiting minorities in the name of diversity." By 2040, there won't be any techies, not in coding, not in networking, not in much of anything.
Also, it recycles outdated content from 2015
Our Entrepreneurs in Residence (EIRs) will spend a year launching a company as well as connecting communities of color to their local entrepreneurial ecosystem. This program will be piloted in three cities in 2015: Austin, Chicago, and Durham with partners Capitol Factory, 1871, and American Underground, respectively.
Guess that didn't work out too well or they'd be bragging about it. And what a "diverse" bunch of minorities they cater to - young black women and young latino women. That's it. Men, older women, native American women, Asian women, Arab women, Inuit women, and their descendants are being openly discriminated by this group.
So, "let's encourage diversity by creating another ghetto where people can't mix with others who aren't like them, and collect money doing it (see the "donate" button)."
The CEO's latest tweet doesn't inspire confidence:
this morning i accidentally put half a bagel that was hidden under cheese inside an english muffin and ate it for breakfast, a bread sando
But I guess this is the latest business model for those who can't actually do tech but want to make money off it.
Arrogant prick, meet arrogant bitch. When you write "the entire purpose of a software engineer (i.e. not a flunky programmer) is to do riddles, all day, every day", you contradict yourself - you've just defined a flunky programmer.
It's bullsh*t like this that makes me glad I no longer have to deal with asshole bosses who don't know shit, and don't know they don't know shit.
Think of it - before the Internet, people didn't do "cut-n-paste coding". You actually had to have large quantities of code between your ears and know what you were doing without asking world+dog. Man pages help, but only to describe the functions you're using, not actual implementation, which should always be left as an exercise to the reader, or you never learn.
I've seen interviewers (one "remote work" from the Philippines comes to mind in particular) use this technique to get free work: dangle a job offer, present a thorny, nigh intractable, problem as the "interview process," get applicants to submit various solution approaches and even complete solutions - choose the best, use it yourself - never hire anyone.
And then when that latent bug I left in bites you in the ass?
Oh, you WILL be hiring me then - at MY rate.
BWAA HAA HAA
No - the supply of suckers is well nigh limitless. Look at all the useful fools working unpaid internships.
If it's a small task, it doesn't test sh*t. If you can't screen out people who wouldn't even pass a small task before they get through the door, fire whoever is in charge. They're doing it wrong. Also, fire the person who hired them.
If it goes into a product and you haven't paid them for it or hired them, you've committed fraud. Why not just go f*ck over yet another batch of starry-eyed gullible interns.
And by using something as simple as bubblesort you can have the coding exercise done in 10-15 minutes
Judging by all the "I'll just look it up" answers, you'll be there all day if you ask them to implement a bubble sort on their own. All these "cut-n-paste" coders will be replaced by AI within a decade.
Yet another subscriber to the "many eyes make all bugs shallow" bullshit. If you need to look up simple stuff like how to make a custom string object or do a sort you aren't there yet. No wonder software developers are going to be replaced by AI within a decade or two - AI can probably be taught to cut and paste quicker than you can do it.
More than 50 countries use french - so that's more than 50 countries that would know how to get it right. Also, English speakers would probably like to know the etymology of the words that have been "adopted into" English - and a lot of those words are of French origin. After reading my post, they would know that mayday originated from the french m"aider (help me), and is not just some arbitrary code word. Yours? Not so informative. Same as understanding that "panne" is french for broken. Knowing that, if they ever heard someone say "moteur en panne" they would probably guess that someone was saying their motor was broken. They would also be able to guess that "panne d'electricitè" would mean a power failure. "M'aider, auto en panne" would mean "help me, car not working." All that just from knowing that "panne" actually means something in another language.
My post also made it clear what the pronunciation sounded like, so why not just admit you don't know any french.
Heck, even China requires English if you want to graduate from university. They're not stupid - having a second language to communicate with your side that the other side doesn't understand when you're in the room in negotiations is damn handy.
I'm sure people with visual handicaps are going to really HATE this. The touch screen interface sucks already, and gestures make it worse. Good think I kept my old flip phone.
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the economic data suggests that automation isn't happening on a large scale
And 10 years ago, lthe economic data said that smartphone app sales were not happening at all (since there was no such thing as an app store until 2008). Some people need to re-learn the lessons about "tipping points" or watch how even something as seemingly innocuous as a loud sound can trigger an avalanche that destroys all in its' path.
Next thing you know they're going to require a literacy test to read !!!
Did you read the article before posting that?
Why? The submitter probably didn't.
Instead of hypothesizing, why not actually try it? Android's current "assistive" mode is f*cked. The gesture one will be worse.
It's easy/hard enough when you can see what mode you're in (and what application) to figure out the range of appropriate gestures at the moment. But when you can't? All it takes is one wrong move to open up the wrong application, switch to the wrong screen, etc. Once you're disorientated, with no way of visually verifying what's wrong, your only real action is to power down and restart so you can know where you are starting from, unless you can get voice control.
It's why I'm keeping my old flip phone as a backup. It's simple. It's got real buttons. The input method doesn't change depending on what I'm doing.
And yet Sanders would have wiped his clock, no matter what Trump or the Russians would have done. The Trump presidency lies squarely on the shoulders of Clinton and the DNC.
He specifically asked for help to ban Muslims, and "make it legal." He was well aware that he couldn't legally ban based on religion, so he did it based on country of origin, which is pretty much the same as race in the case of the countries in question.
He's a racist, and he sees Muslims and other non-christians as "the enemy."
But won't shill trolls be replaced by AI even sooner?
They already have. The most prolific one on slashdot goes by the nym "Anonymous Coward." There are ongoing bot wars on twitter, facebook, and even wikipedia.
Problem is, HR people work for the company, not the employee, so it's not in their best interest to be fair in administering benefits, and their idea of "keeping everything legal" is covering the company's ass from lawsuits brought by wronged employees. A union can be a great equalizer.
A future in which human workers are replaced by machines is about to become a reality at an insurance firm in Japan, where more than 30 employees are being laid off and replaced with an artificial intelligence system that can calculate payouts to policyholders.
Fukoku Mutual Life Insurance believes it will increase productivity by 30% and see a return on its investment in less than two years. The firm said it would save about 140m yen (£1m) a year after the 200m yen (£1.4m) AI system is installed this month. Maintaining it will cost about 15m yen (£100k) a year.
The move is unlikely to be welcomed, however, by 34 employees who will be made redundant by the end of March.
So, once the initial cost is covered (in 2 years), it will only cost $300 a month per employee replaced. That's like having wage slaves working for $1.50 an hour. There's no way for humans to compete with that.
Pushing AI much, are you?
You must have missed this a week ago. Also, this. Cut-n-paste coders with no real insight will be the first against the wall, along with their bosses, and the hr droids. They will not be missed.
One consequence will be removing the bullsh*t "hour of code" for school kids - something that most of us here recognize as stupid. Another will be killing off the SJWs who are platforming on the evils of the tech world, which in reality are no worse than anywhere else (it's a mess everywhere - and you can be damn sure SJWs aren't going to fix it*).
*For those who believe otherwise, wake up and look at the facts.
Training is the most popular initiative to increase workplace diversity, according to a study of 829 tech and non-tech private companies over 31 years. Four in 10 companies offered bias training in 2002. Yet training had “no positive effects in the average workplace,” the study found.
The numbers of women in computing have taken a nose dive for over two decades. Data from the American Association for University Women (2015) and WebCASPAR (2015).
Diversity efforts have been especially futile in the tech sector. The percentage of women among US tech workers has steadily declined over the past two decades, for instance, now standing at 26%.
The field is toxic for both sexes - it's become more and more of a dead end where you'd better have a backup plan when you're perceived as "too old to code", or you're hosed. It's easier for women to leave because the sexism and gender bias give an additional incentive not to "tough it out" - it's one more straw on the proverbial camel's back - but men are also getting their lives turned to sh*t by the crappy bosses who think that "beatings will continue until creativity improves" actually works.
And yet my point remains - "cut-n-paste via google" coders probably have huge gaps in their knowledge, so they will be the first to be replaced by AI, within the next decade. They're also time wasters. And they probably can't figure out 3 different ways to do the same thing, and then pick the optimal one for the situation (because the first solution is rarely the best).
They won't actually know why something does what it does, just that "I found it on the net and it works." Good luck modifying it.
If it was at all useful for us to know low-level "algos" in any detail, we would all know them
Which is what separates web monkeys and cut-n-paste poseurs from the real McCoy.
Don't forget the green boards - for the aliens. Undocumented Martians deserve some attention.
Look at who is saying it, and it's easy to spot the stupidity
Karla Monterroso, VP of programs for Code2040, an organization for black and Latino techies
Created less than a year ago. "Oh, look, let's create jobs for ourselves by exploiting minorities in the name of diversity." By 2040, there won't be any techies, not in coding, not in networking, not in much of anything.
Also, it recycles outdated content from 2015
Our Entrepreneurs in Residence (EIRs) will spend a year launching a company as well as connecting communities of color to their local entrepreneurial ecosystem. This program will be piloted in three cities in 2015: Austin, Chicago, and Durham with partners Capitol Factory, 1871, and American Underground, respectively.
Guess that didn't work out too well or they'd be bragging about it. And what a "diverse" bunch of minorities they cater to - young black women and young latino women. That's it. Men, older women, native American women, Asian women, Arab women, Inuit women, and their descendants are being openly discriminated by this group.
So, "let's encourage diversity by creating another ghetto where people can't mix with others who aren't like them, and collect money doing it (see the "donate" button)."
The CEO's latest tweet doesn't inspire confidence:
this morning i accidentally put half a bagel that was hidden under cheese inside an english muffin and ate it for breakfast, a bread sando
But I guess this is the latest business model for those who can't actually do tech but want to make money off it.
Slashdot does not allow the less than greater than on the (int).
You mean like this: (<int>)?
Arrogant prick, meet arrogant bitch. When you write "the entire purpose of a software engineer (i.e. not a flunky programmer) is to do riddles, all day, every day", you contradict yourself - you've just defined a flunky programmer.
It's bullsh*t like this that makes me glad I no longer have to deal with asshole bosses who don't know shit, and don't know they don't know shit.
Think of it - before the Internet, people didn't do "cut-n-paste coding". You actually had to have large quantities of code between your ears and know what you were doing without asking world+dog. Man pages help, but only to describe the functions you're using, not actual implementation, which should always be left as an exercise to the reader, or you never learn.
I've seen interviewers (one "remote work" from the Philippines comes to mind in particular) use this technique to get free work: dangle a job offer, present a thorny, nigh intractable, problem as the "interview process," get applicants to submit various solution approaches and even complete solutions - choose the best, use it yourself - never hire anyone.
And then when that latent bug I left in bites you in the ass?
Oh, you WILL be hiring me then - at MY rate.
BWAA HAA HAA
No - the supply of suckers is well nigh limitless. Look at all the useful fools working unpaid internships.
If it's a small task, it doesn't test sh*t. If you can't screen out people who wouldn't even pass a small task before they get through the door, fire whoever is in charge. They're doing it wrong. Also, fire the person who hired them.
If it goes into a product and you haven't paid them for it or hired them, you've committed fraud. Why not just go f*ck over yet another batch of starry-eyed gullible interns.
And by using something as simple as bubblesort you can have the coding exercise done in 10-15 minutes
Judging by all the "I'll just look it up" answers, you'll be there all day if you ask them to implement a bubble sort on their own. All these "cut-n-paste" coders will be replaced by AI within a decade.
Yet another subscriber to the "many eyes make all bugs shallow" bullshit. If you need to look up simple stuff like how to make a custom string object or do a sort you aren't there yet. No wonder software developers are going to be replaced by AI within a decade or two - AI can probably be taught to cut and paste quicker than you can do it.
I dare you to try the non-visual mode on an android phone. I did. It's useless. Also, " they are so used to detailed touch work" - are you for real?
More than 50 countries use french - so that's more than 50 countries that would know how to get it right. Also, English speakers would probably like to know the etymology of the words that have been "adopted into" English - and a lot of those words are of French origin. After reading my post, they would know that mayday originated from the french m"aider (help me), and is not just some arbitrary code word. Yours? Not so informative. Same as understanding that "panne" is french for broken. Knowing that, if they ever heard someone say "moteur en panne" they would probably guess that someone was saying their motor was broken. They would also be able to guess that "panne d'electricitè" would mean a power failure. "M'aider, auto en panne" would mean "help me, car not working." All that just from knowing that "panne" actually means something in another language.
My post also made it clear what the pronunciation sounded like, so why not just admit you don't know any french.
Heck, even China requires English if you want to graduate from university. They're not stupid - having a second language to communicate with your side that the other side doesn't understand when you're in the room in negotiations is damn handy.
I'm sure people with visual handicaps are going to really HATE this. The touch screen interface sucks already, and gestures make it worse. Good think I kept my old flip phone.