I should be so lucky as to have 2004-era technology. I'm in the heart of the Silicon Valley, and can't get anything faster than basic 1998-era ADSL. If the HOA would let me put up a fifty foot tower, I could probably point a parabolic Wi-Fi antenna towards the Apple or Google campus and get faster service.
The US likely has plans to invade Canada if necessary (although at least publicly the last one was canceled in the 1930s http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Plan_Red),
It's a hybrid, calling it a microkernel isn't entirely wrong since the microkernel structure is there, it operates as a microkernel with the message passing and protected memory, only it is not invulnerable to faulty device drivers, that's the key part that makes is a hybrid and why it retains a similar speed to pure monolithic kernels.
I.e., it's a microkernel except for the "privileged OS services are provided by user-mode server processes rather than by code running in kernel mode" part, which makes it not much more interestingly a microkernel than, say, any of the monolithic-kernel UN*Xes that, in some cases, send messages to a userland process for some services (e.g., automounter daemons).
things tend to go slow. Real slow. If you want things now, now, now, pay the man/men. It is free, as in someone-else-will-do-it, so you get what you, that's right, didn't pay for.
Fortunately, eventually people found this hobby project worth paying for, although I think it proved its worth before the big money started pouring in.
There are, of course, someotherhobbyprojects that also manage to support a little more hardware than the Hurd does without huge amounts of money poured into them.
Absent Linux, we'd all be warring over which was better -- Macintosh or Windows. Both have UNIX buried in their guts.
With a heck of a lot more buried in the former than in the latter. (At this point, I'm not sure there's much left in the latter; for example, as far as I know, the Internet protocol stack is not BSD-based, even if the command-line FTP client is.)
Unix was a very serious project funded by a monopoly (at the time) called AT&T - specifically AT&T's Bell Labs
Well, they weren't that interested in funding it at the start; to quote Mr. Ritchie:
Actually, it is perfectly obvious in retrospect (and should have been at the time) that we were asking the Labs to spend too much money on too few people with too vague a plan. Moreover, I am quite sure that at that time operating systems were not, for our management, an attractive area in which to support work. They were in the process of extricating themselves not only from an operating system development effort that had failed, but from running the local Computation Center. Thus it may have seemed that buying a machine such as we suggested might lead on the one hand to yet another Multics, or on the other, if we produced something useful, to yet another Comp Center for them to be responsible for.
They may have been willing to let some of their researchers spend some of their company time on personal projects, but it wasn't as if AT&T were starting a major official project to develop an OS. So it's a question of the level of the support. From what Ritchie said, it appears to have been a bit of a skunkworks project at the beginning, although, at some point, AT&T management Took Notice and started putting more money into it (especially after it became an OS supporting many significant applications inside AT&T).
and the C language was literally invented by Kerhnigan and Ritchie just so they could develop it.
The reference doesn't directly address that, although when it says
Thus, in 1971, work began on what was to become the C language [14]. The story of the language developments from BCPL through B to C is told elsewhere [15], and need not be repeated here. Perhaps the most important watershed occurred during 1973, when the operating system kernel was rewritten in C. It was at this point that the system assumed its modern form; the most far-reaching change was the introduction of multi-programming. There were few externally-visible changes, but the internal structure of the system became much more rational and general. The success of this effort convinced us that C was useful as a nearly universal tool for systems programming, instead of just a toy for simple applications.
that seems to indicate that C was used as a language for "simple applications" prior to its use as an implementation language for Unix.
Well, I just habitually allow for the file to acheive maximum size as per the partition.. I don't like having a swap file on a partition that is EVER used for another purpose as well.
I guess you could use the -S flag for that:
-S The fixed filesize [in bytes] to use for the paging files. By default dynamic_pager uses variable sized paging files, using larger sized files as paging demands increase. The -S, -H and -L options disable that default and cause dynamic_pager to use a series of fixed sized external paging files.
If they want international connections that don't go via the U.S.... AND they want to pay for it, for a change, then more power to them.
If they want international connections that don't go via the U.S.... BUT they want the U.S. to keep picking up the tab, they can suck eggs.
As far as I know, the U.S. won't be picking up the tab for the BRICS Cable; it looks as if it's a South African project, and I suspect B, R, I, and C will also either be making investments in the project or paying connection charges or both.
How quickly you seem to forget what the world has seen more wars since Pax Americana than ever before.
But many of the big ones were before 1945.
here's a hint, it was a HELL of a lot more peaceful than it is today.
Maybe, maybe not. There was rather a lot of nasty violence, both in Europe and in the rest of the world, from the mid-to-late 19th century to the mid 20th century (a lot of it comingfrom or taking place in the United States), just as there has been rather a lot of nasty violence, much of it coming from or supported by the US, from the mid 20th century to today.
But, yes, the person to whom you were replying was wrapped so tightly in the US flag that they couldn't see out of it.
On Amazon.de I can choose between the US, British and German editions of many books. On Amazon.co.uk or Amazon.com the choice is more limited.
I suspect the percentage of (and perhaps even the absolute number of) Germans who can read English is greater than the percentage (and perhaps even the absolute number of) Brits and Yanks who can read German. That might have something to do with the "German editions" part of it.
I tend to think that there are lots of people that want to disconnect North America from the rest of the internet and I don't think that we will miss them much either.
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Excuse me, but please get off my Pennisetum Clandestinum, eh!
"Disconnect North America... I don't think that we will miss them much", followed by ", eh!"? Isn't that ironic?
However, as that part of the UN Yearbook 1948-1949 says (see p. 535), "the Declaration only marked a first step since it was not a convention by which States would be bound to carry out and give effect to the fundamental human rights; nor would it provide for enforcement", so I'm not sure what it would mean to "sign up"; I don't think there was a treaty to be signed in that case.
but once you disconnect the USA, in its entirety, from your little country's network then it is not the Internet
Not that this is what Brazil, for example, is proposing. (Some countries might want to disconnect their networks from the rest of the world, including but not limited to the US, but that's another matter.)
So the networking protocols were invented in the US, the hardware was invented in the US, and the most commonly used markup language was created by a British Physicist while subcontracted to work at a Swiss research lab. FTFY
You forgot about the protocol known as the Hypertext Transport Protocol, running atop of one of those US-developed protocols (which were at least inspired by work done in France); that protocol was created by a British physicist working at a European research lab located in Switzerland.
the entire idea of "American Exceptionalism" is the notion that the United States stands alone as a country; Unique in it's respect for freedom and human rights.
Has that notion ever been valid?
The NSA's violation of every honor code existing in TCP/IP
So what parts of RFC 791 and RFC 793 mention an honor code?
The fallout isn't from the revelation, it's from the spying.
Without the revelations, would there have been any fallout from the spying? Perhaps "the most serious diplomatic fallout to date from the spying revealed by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden" would have been a clearer statement of what was intended.
Would that be an OK action if this was not a group of 'left-wing' countries, but 'normal' or 'right-wing' ?
If by "that" you mean Rousseff's speech, are you asserting here that he thinks that speech was not an OK action? That's sure not what the posting to which you're responding seems to be saying, as I read it; he seems pretty upset about, for example:
...when the US and EU countries grounded Evo Morales, President of Bolivia, so they could search his plane for Snowden (a rough equivalent here would be the Chinese stopping and searching Air Force One)?
(Hint: I think he's using "left-wing" in a positive sense here....)
But how does it compare to the Windows model of control-C copy and control-V paste?
It has NOTHING to do with these. Proper applications will make ctrl+c/v work exactly like Windows does, whether or not the user hits the middle mouse button.
You missed the point of the previous two posts. Somebody appeared to be complaining about the inconvenience of doing copy and paste from the context menu ("the windows model of right-click copy, right-click paste is like crossing the street by way of China"), and I pointed out that the inconvenience of copy-and-paste might be reduced somewhat by using keyboard accelerators for copy and paste.
The middle-mouse paste is *DRAG AND DROP*.
No, it's not, because there's no dragging; it just inserts - pastes, drops, whatever - a selection made elsewhere.
Don't call it "middle mouse paste", call it "middle mouse DROP".
If the problem with "paste" is that people think of "paste" as pasting the clipboard, the problem with "drop" is that people might think of it as dropping something you're dragging. If a term other than "paste" is called for here, I'd use "insert", and continue to add "current selection", i.e. "insert current selection".
Linux never was UNIX. It never got certified. If you're really wanting a UNIX OS for free, you're wanting FreeBSD/OpenBSD/PC-BSD
...which haven't been certified, either.
Linux has always been the wild west when it comes to standards.
But, as at least one snarky reply hints, this has nothing to do with "Linux", it has to do with GNOME; GNOME will be as {pick one of "wonderful", "sucky", "not too bad", "mediocre", "better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick", etc.} on FreeBSD/OpenBSD/PC-BSD/etc. as it will be on Linux in this case.
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I should be so lucky as to have 2004-era technology. I'm in the heart of the Silicon Valley, and can't get anything faster than basic 1998-era ADSL. If the HOA would let me put up a fifty foot tower, I could probably point a parabolic Wi-Fi antenna towards the Apple or Google campus and get faster service.
Are you in an area where you could get Fusion from Sonic.net?
The jews like to brag they are stronger than France
Which ones? (Srsly, most broad statements about "the Jews" are very likely to be bogus. There's a saying about that....)
The US likely has plans to invade Canada if necessary (although at least publicly the last one was canceled in the 1930s http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Plan_Red),
And then there's the previous invasion, although I'm not sure whether that counts as Canada the country.
And never has. Apple got a Mach *based* kernel working by having complete hardware control and not having to develop drivers for alternative hardware.
...and by running drivers for network and storage devices, and the network protocol and file system code that uses them, in kernel mode.
It's a hybrid, calling it a microkernel isn't entirely wrong since the microkernel structure is there, it operates as a microkernel with the message passing and protected memory, only it is not invulnerable to faulty device drivers, that's the key part that makes is a hybrid and why it retains a similar speed to pure monolithic kernels.
I.e., it's a microkernel except for the "privileged OS services are provided by user-mode server processes rather than by code running in kernel mode" part, which makes it not much more interestingly a microkernel than, say, any of the monolithic-kernel UN*Xes that, in some cases, send messages to a userland process for some services (e.g., automounter daemons).
things tend to go slow. Real slow. If you want things now, now, now, pay the man/men. It is free, as in someone-else-will-do-it, so you get what you, that's right, didn't pay for.
Fortunately, eventually people found this hobby project worth paying for, although I think it proved its worth before the big money started pouring in.
There are, of course, some other hobby projects that also manage to support a little more hardware than the Hurd does without huge amounts of money poured into them.
Absent Linux, we'd all be warring over which was better -- Macintosh or Windows. Both have UNIX buried in their guts.
With a heck of a lot more buried in the former than in the latter. (At this point, I'm not sure there's much left in the latter; for example, as far as I know, the Internet protocol stack is not BSD-based, even if the command-line FTP client is.)
Unix was a very serious project funded by a monopoly (at the time) called AT&T - specifically AT&T's Bell Labs
Well, they weren't that interested in funding it at the start; to quote Mr. Ritchie:
They may have been willing to let some of their researchers spend some of their company time on personal projects, but it wasn't as if AT&T were starting a major official project to develop an OS. So it's a question of the level of the support. From what Ritchie said, it appears to have been a bit of a skunkworks project at the beginning, although, at some point, AT&T management Took Notice and started putting more money into it (especially after it became an OS supporting many significant applications inside AT&T).
and the C language was literally invented by Kerhnigan and Ritchie just so they could develop it.
The reference doesn't directly address that, although when it says
that seems to indicate that C was used as a language for "simple applications" prior to its use as an implementation language for Unix.
Well, I just habitually allow for the file to acheive maximum size as per the partition.. I don't like having a swap file on a partition that is EVER used for another purpose as well.
I guess you could use the -S flag for that:
If they want international connections that don't go via the U.S. ... AND they want to pay for it, for a change, then more power to them.
If they want international connections that don't go via the U.S. ... BUT they want the U.S. to keep picking up the tab, they can suck eggs.
As far as I know, the U.S. won't be picking up the tab for the BRICS Cable; it looks as if it's a South African project, and I suspect B, R, I, and C will also either be making investments in the project or paying connection charges or both.
Lets look at what the US has done since 1776: (this list is not complete)
Yup.
5. South America: removing presidents and installing our own
6. Middle East: See above
And at least helping out in that process in at least one European country.
7. School of America: training all "rebels" to take back "their" countries
...and training the military and police in other countries to make sure the "wrong" people stay out of power.
How quickly you seem to forget what the world has seen more wars since Pax Americana than ever before.
But many of the big ones were before 1945.
here's a hint, it was a HELL of a lot more peaceful than it is today.
Maybe, maybe not. There was rather a lot of nasty violence, both in Europe and in the rest of the world, from the mid-to-late 19th century to the mid 20th century (a lot of it coming from or taking place in the United States), just as there has been rather a lot of nasty violence, much of it coming from or supported by the US, from the mid 20th century to today.
But, yes, the person to whom you were replying was wrapped so tightly in the US flag that they couldn't see out of it.
On Amazon.de I can choose between the US, British and German editions of many books. On Amazon.co.uk or Amazon.com the choice is more limited.
I suspect the percentage of (and perhaps even the absolute number of) Germans who can read English is greater than the percentage (and perhaps even the absolute number of) Brits and Yanks who can read German. That might have something to do with the "German editions" part of it.
What they really mean is they want international network conections that don't go via the US.
Exactly.
That's not very hard really - just lay a cable to Europe.
Or South Africa. They might now want to have their own (or South America's own) cable to Europe as well.
Their own internet might simply mean "not connected or dependent upon" the current network
I have seen nothing to indicate that Brazil is thinking of not allowing packets to be routed to the rest of the Internet, or even just to US; they are thinking of allowing packets to much of the rest of the world to be routed there without passing through the US, but that's another matter (and that appears to have been an idea originated in South Africa, well prior to the Snowden revelations).
I tend to think that there are lots of people that want to disconnect North America from the rest of the internet and I don't think that we will miss them much either.
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Excuse me, but please get off my Pennisetum Clandestinum, eh!
"Disconnect North America ... I don't think that we will miss them much", followed by ", eh!"? Isn't that ironic?
did the USA actually sign up to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights?
When it was voted on, the US voted yes.
However, as that part of the UN Yearbook 1948-1949 says (see p. 535), "the Declaration only marked a first step since it was not a convention by which States would be bound to carry out and give effect to the fundamental human rights; nor would it provide for enforcement", so I'm not sure what it would mean to "sign up"; I don't think there was a treaty to be signed in that case.
but once you disconnect the USA, in its entirety, from your little country's network then it is not the Internet
Not that this is what Brazil, for example, is proposing. (Some countries might want to disconnect their networks from the rest of the world, including but not limited to the US, but that's another matter.)
So the networking protocols were invented in the US, the hardware was invented in the US, and the most commonly used markup language was created by a British Physicist while subcontracted to work at a Swiss research lab. FTFY
You forgot about the protocol known as the Hypertext Transport Protocol, running atop of one of those US-developed protocols (which were at least inspired by work done in France); that protocol was created by a British physicist working at a European research lab located in Switzerland.
the entire idea of "American Exceptionalism" is the notion that the United States stands alone as a country; Unique in it's respect for freedom and human rights.
Has that notion ever been valid?
The NSA's violation of every honor code existing in TCP/IP
So what parts of RFC 791 and RFC 793 mention an honor code?
The fallout isn't from the revelation, it's from the spying.
Without the revelations, would there have been any fallout from the spying? Perhaps "the most serious diplomatic fallout to date from the spying revealed by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden" would have been a clearer statement of what was intended.
Would that be an OK action if this was not a group of 'left-wing' countries, but 'normal' or 'right-wing' ?
If by "that" you mean Rousseff's speech, are you asserting here that he thinks that speech was not an OK action? That's sure not what the posting to which you're responding seems to be saying, as I read it; he seems pretty upset about, for example:
(Hint: I think he's using "left-wing" in a positive sense here....)
But how does it compare to the Windows model of control-C copy and control-V paste?
It has NOTHING to do with these. Proper applications will make ctrl+c/v work exactly like Windows does, whether or not the user hits the middle mouse button.
You missed the point of the previous two posts. Somebody appeared to be complaining about the inconvenience of doing copy and paste from the context menu ("the windows model of right-click copy, right-click paste is like crossing the street by way of China"), and I pointed out that the inconvenience of copy-and-paste might be reduced somewhat by using keyboard accelerators for copy and paste.
The middle-mouse paste is *DRAG AND DROP*.
No, it's not, because there's no dragging; it just inserts - pastes, drops, whatever - a selection made elsewhere.
Don't call it "middle mouse paste", call it "middle mouse DROP".
If the problem with "paste" is that people think of "paste" as pasting the clipboard, the problem with "drop" is that people might think of it as dropping something you're dragging. If a term other than "paste" is called for here, I'd use "insert", and continue to add "current selection", i.e. "insert current selection".
Either you're a common carrier or you're not. You can't have it both ways until you build a quantum network.
And even then you can only have it both ways until the wave function collapses.
Linux never was UNIX. It never got certified. If you're really wanting a UNIX OS for free, you're wanting FreeBSD/OpenBSD/PC-BSD
...which haven't been certified, either.
Linux has always been the wild west when it comes to standards.
But, as at least one snarky reply hints, this has nothing to do with "Linux", it has to do with GNOME; GNOME will be as {pick one of "wonderful", "sucky", "not too bad", "mediocre", "better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick", etc.} on FreeBSD/OpenBSD/PC-BSD/etc. as it will be on Linux in this case.