Should be: "For some reason, Android advocates who trashed Microsoft for the same behavior ignore it when it comes from a multibillion dollar advertising company that happens to push Linux."
Could this be any more biased? Why is Slashdot posting this crap?
The article claims that "Apple fan sites celebrate Apple patents," but all he does is link to one site, Patently Apple. That site exists to track Apple patent applications "in search of future features and secrets," as the site puts it. It's not celebrating patents; it's just reporting on them in hopes of predicting upcoming product plans.
It also repeats the old troll meme about PARC, claiming that "Apple disregards the notion of fair competition, which takes a lot of nerve for a company that built itself on knockoffs (e.g. Xerox PARC)." Overlapping windows and pulldown menus did come from PARC, but Apple is the one who invented the File-Edit-View-Window-Help standard menu layout, the phrase "cut-and-paste," and several other common GUI paradigms that are taken for granted today. Not to mention that many of those Xerox PARC employees went on to work on the Macintosh project at Apple!
If we're throwing around knock-off accusations, Android used to look like this until the iPhone came out, and then Android suddenly started looking and behaving a lot more like iOS, right down to the pinch-zoom gestures that originated with the iPhone. For crying out loud, Samsung outright stole Apple's icon artwork and used it in their stores. TechRights, of course, ignores all this. It's no surprise at all that Apple is going to try to hinder competitors' efforts to ride the coattails of its design work. It went through this before with Windows in the 1980s and only lost its court case against Microsoft because of a previous licensing agreement.
Obnoxious Android fanboyism has reached a fever pitch. Android fanboys are now officially more annoying than Apple fanboys. They've adopted this idea that they are freedom fighters and that their tribe is under threat from evil. It's embarrassing and is a resurrection of the worst elements of the desktop Linux movement from 10 years ago.
Exploring the rest of the site, it calls itself "a progressive site which supports software freedom and advocates digital diversity through standardisation." Most of its stories are anti-Microsoft, pro-Linux, and present a one-sided view of tech news that's intended to rile up its readers (not unlike Slashdot, to be honest). It also claims to be against monopolies but says nothing about Google's monopoly in web advertising nor the fact it's using its monopoly revenues to pump a new market with a free product (Android), just like Microsoft did with Windows and Internet Explorer in the 1990s. For some reason, Android advocates
For crying out loud, Techrights' Twitter account is called @boycottnovell. Boycott Novell is associated with Roy Schestowitz, an infamous Usenet troll who spams the advocacy newsgroups with pro-Linux news links and used to astroturf Slashdot with multiple accounts.
If nerds on Tech Rights and Slashdot want to boycott Apple, go ahead. None of them were using Apple products anyway--they are Linux advocacy sites. Apple wouldn't even notice.
Can we get some actual tech news? Or is Slashdot forever lost to its current role of flamboyant baiting for ad views? Ugh.
If that's the goal, just select one of the following story templates:
- Google And Android Are Awesome - Apple Sucks - Arbitrary Linux News - Something Advocating Piracy - Daily Bitching About Patents - Ask Slashdot: "It's still 1997 in my house and I've never heard of Google so I'm asking this question" - Filler Technology Story That Only Gets 50 Comments
Do you know everything about baseball? How about your car engine? Or professional wrestling?
Non-technical users don't learn about computers because they couldn't care less about how they work. That knowledge wouldn't have any effect in their lives that they'd consider valuable. They have their own interests, like you do.
Well, how should we know what price you're willing to spend? If you're just wanting to know what rack systems are available that can support 10 hard drives and how much they cost, can't you just Google that?
Also, what about location — I could run some cat6 to the garage and move it out of the house, in case noise is an issue.
How could we answer this? We don't know what location is most convenient for you. We don't know how much physical space you have available in your house or your garage. Are your family's file-serving needs so extreme that you can't even rely on wireless networking?
Finally, what about file format, file system, and OS/software? I'm currently running with ext3 and Debian Squeeze. Happy with my audio encoding choice, but not sure about x264 and mkv. I'd also consider different media server software, too. Any comments appreciated.
You're running out of disk space, yet you're encoding audio with a technically inferior format that uses more space for less quality than other formats.
Honestly, based on the rattling off of technical specs, it sounds like this project is more about tinkering and tweaking. There are plenty of pre-built Linux-based media server projects (I'd suggest other operating systems, but I know you'll only accept Linux), but you're not going to accept those solutions because you want to tweak and do it all yourself. For crying out loud, you're running your own family mail server and 8TB file server in an era of Facebook-based communication, web-based email, and cloud storage/streaming services.
I think Slashdot is more pro-Cyanogenmod than pro-Android. Plus hating Apple is fun for some people.
I agree that it's fun for some people, but the problem is that people are getting modded down now if they praise anything Apple does or criticize anything related to Google or Android.
The competition is good for everyone as long as one player isn't dominating and controlling. So, it's really not a big deal for Apple and it may cause some benefits should Apple want back into that game.
You're right, but it's amusing that this submission claims a "major setback" for Apple even though the story is simply that iOS is no longer exclusively used by the DoD. Apple is a consumer electronics company; government use is nice, but it's probably barely even on their radar.
I really wish Slashdot wasn't so partisan and would just report all tech news journalistically. It often has too much of an evangelist slant, which is disappointing because it could harbor one of the most interesting communities in tech reporting if it reported all sides. There are so many partisan news sites now that Slashdot could stand out, but instead it narrows itself into a particular niche and only attracts certain users.
Slashdot is typically very pro-Android; at least, the commenters and moderators are. It makes sense that the editors would post stories that tap into the existing sentiment of their demographic, because Slashdot makes its money from ads, and generating interest also generates page views. Rather than just another Dell business deal, the headline is reworded to make it sound like Android itself is "approved by the Pentagon," and the submission is worded to appear as a victory for open source and a "major setback" for Apple. Slashdot still fetishizes marketshare like it's 1999, when Apple has never treated that as their top priority. Arstechnica's Siracusa worded Steve Jobs's attitude in this way: Apple would rather lose than suck.
This is Slashdot. Everything must be portrayed as a victory for open source and a "major setback" for competitors rather than just another business deal.
If you're advocating for the legalization of an act, you are advocating for the act. Just like if you are advocating for gay marriage, you are a gay marriage advocate, or if you advocate for the legalization of marijuana, you are a marijuana advocate..
He is advocating the legalization of necrophilia. This isn't about some bogus freedom argument. It's about a guy who advocates the legalization of things like child pornography possession (note that you didn't address that part) and how he is therefore a poor spokesperson to get behind.
"Necrophilia would be my second choice for what should be done with my corpse, the first being scientific or medical use. Once my dead body is no longer of any use to me, it may as well be of some use to someone." -- Richard Stallman
And Google seems to be more than capable of actually competing with other companies rather than locking users into their products.
You are the product; advertisers are the users. In the realm of web advertising, Google has a huge monopoly and is being investigated for antitrust abuse.
Piracy is not copyright reform; it's complete rejection of the copyright system. Slashdot is clearly pro-piracy in both the number of pro-piracy articles it publishes (particularly about Pirate Bay--the most recent submission conveniently included a link to a mirror of the site) and the upvoted comments that are posted to those stories.
The problem with dismissing the copyright system is that the GPL is a copyright license that depends on copyright law to have any legal power. Ironically, it's also a EULA for developers--yet Slashdot is also anti-EULA. The point being that Slashdot as a company doesn't care about being consistent; it only cares about riling up its readers and generating page views. And because readers are so riled up, they don't notice how inconsistent their own positions are.
All I'm doing is pointing out that Slashdot clearly has an anti-copyright position when it conveniently aids in the acquisition of things that its readers want--music, movies, and software--but is pro-copyright when it conveniently aids in the acquisition of free software as well as benefits an anti-commercial software position. Slashdot clearly has this position based on the consistent rate of pro-piracy/pro-GPL stories combined with the majority of highly-rated comments that are posted to those stories. This article, as well as your own post and its anti-copyright signature, are clear examples.
Slashdot's job is to cater to a specific kind of tech demographic in order to sell ads related to those topics. You are just a product--the customers are its advertisers. This site will always be posting anti-copyright articles, GPL violation articles, pro-Google articles, pro-Linux articles, Star Wars articles, etc. It's not even on the forefront of tech news--nearly every single link is posted on Hacker News and Reddit days before Slashdot publishes it. The so-called "Slashdot effect" also no longer exists as it once did, as the readership has diminished since the rise of user-voted content submission sites. The point being that most of the people still lingering on this site hold the more extreme viewpoints that Slashdot caters to, or else they would have left along with everyone else years ago. Just try legitimately praising Apple or Microsoft and see what happens to your karma. You used to be able to do that; not anymore.
As for your claim that your positions do not conflict, they most certainly do--you are in favor of the abolition of copyright, yet you are also in favor of a copyright license that requires copyright law to have any legal power. Without copyright, the GPL would have no legal power and would be unenforceable.
I'm sure they're similar to the odds of IE ever losing its marketshare too, no?
Is this seriously all your argument is based on? "Well, this one thing happened once, so it will always happen this way!" The biggest reason IE is losing marketshare because of mobile devices--Windows PC marketshare isn't exactly dropping.
The iPad/iPhone are nice, but they are not magic. They have gotten by so far on a combination of fanbois, expert marketing and a lack of serious competition.
Nobody has claimed they are "magic," and your stupid "fanbois" term is more proof that Android fanboys are officially the most obnoxious, annoying, bitter fanboys on the planet. You don't even have to hide your trolling anymore on Slashdot to get modded up--you're outright claiming that the iPad sucks and that it's nothing more than fanboyism, marketing, and lack of competition that got it where it is.
The thing we must all remember is the real tablet space is only a year and a half old which is far too early to be anointing any once and forever kings.
Tablets literally existed for over a decade prior and gained no foothold until the iPad came along. You don't even have your history straight.
It's cool though. Keep believing in the infallibility of Lord Jobs (PBUH).
Please, put down the crack pipe and step away from the kool-aid. When I'm out in town using my Transformer the first thing people assume is it is a netbook. Then I take it apart and after they pick up their jaws they're asking what is it and where can they get one.
You're just repeating an anecdote, and that's not a valid argument, no matter how many Android fans mod you up.
Whereas not everyone wants it, there sure as hell are a lot of people who do and not just the implied "techno geeks" you're thinking of. Lots of iPad users see it and do wish they had such a dock.
Again, this is a personal anecdote about "lots of iPad users" you claim have seen your Transformer.
You're just going to have to get used to the idea that while the iPad 2/3/whatever is nice, the ass kicking that is about to be handed to Apple outside their core fanboi base is going to be absolutely Epic.
That you wrote this stupid sentence and got modded "+5 Insightful" is proof that Slashdot has been taken over by angry, obnoxious Android fanboys. You're emotional over smartphone operating systems. Please. Go outside.
People said the iPod was going to get its ass kicked for years, and it never happened. The narrative Slashdot has fetishized is that it's Android versus Apple, as if Android is some big company, when it's really Apple vs. Samsung vs. HTC vs. Motorola vs. Acer vs. Asus vs. Coby vs. Sony-Ericsson vs. RIM vs. Archos, etc. Android is just a development platform that multiple manufacturers base their operating systems on. The iPad will remain the #1 selling tablet just like the iPhone is the #1 selling smartphone. It's not Apple versus Android; it's Apple versus all the other individual handset makers.
I can't believe people are non-ironically taking this story at face value. Seriously? Android tablets are now a "Year of the..." meme? Did everybody forget how "Year of Linux on the Desktop" was predicted every year?
As for the "Epic ass kicking," Apple doesn't care about having the most market share. That may be something Microsoft and Google care about, but Apple has always been interested in making industry-leading, high-quality products that make a ton of profit. This is another example of Slashdotters not understanding how business works. Your argument is like claiming McDonald's is better than a five-star restaurant, because after all, McDonald's sells more. To quote Douglas Adams: "10 percent of computer users are Mac users, but remember, we are the top 10 percent."
P.S. Again, I have to voice my astonishment that garbage posts like this get +5 Insightful. It's literally nothing more than a guy claiming that all the iPad users he meets want his Transformer, and that his smartphone operating system is going to kick everybody's ass.
"[P]rostitution, adultery, necrophilia, bestiality, possession of child pornography, and even incest and pedophilia” [...] All of these acts should be legal as long as no one is coerced. They are illegal only because of prejudice and narrow-mindedness."
I repeat--he is advocating necrophilia and even possession of child pornography.
Without standards, code written on one platform wouldn't work on another, which was kind of the point of inventing programming languages in the first place, going back to that first cross-platform COBOL demonstration in late 1960.
This blog post is just too alarmist for me to take seriously. Most of the other entries on his site seems to also follow the same style--random outbursts, with irritating newlines after every sentence.
Microsoft has been steering their developers away from C and C++ for a long time now. Using Visual Studio for pure native projects is a pain. The pre-release Visual Studio contained in the Windows 8 technical preview won't even allow you to write non-Metro applications (or at least they made it so hard that I couldn't find how to do it).
Fortunately, there are alternatives to Visual Studio even on Windows.
Microsoft has completely embraced native code in Windows 8, and you can write C++ Metro applications.
Richard Stallman also believes that necrophilia and voluntary pedophilia should be legal. Maybe not the best spokesperson to get behind.
Should be: "For some reason, Android advocates who trashed Microsoft for the same behavior ignore it when it comes from a multibillion dollar advertising company that happens to push Linux."
Could this be any more biased? Why is Slashdot posting this crap?
The article claims that "Apple fan sites celebrate Apple patents," but all he does is link to one site, Patently Apple. That site exists to track Apple patent applications "in search of future features and secrets," as the site puts it. It's not celebrating patents; it's just reporting on them in hopes of predicting upcoming product plans.
It also repeats the old troll meme about PARC, claiming that "Apple disregards the notion of fair competition, which takes a lot of nerve for a company that built itself on knockoffs (e.g. Xerox PARC)." Overlapping windows and pulldown menus did come from PARC, but Apple is the one who invented the File-Edit-View-Window-Help standard menu layout, the phrase "cut-and-paste," and several other common GUI paradigms that are taken for granted today. Not to mention that many of those Xerox PARC employees went on to work on the Macintosh project at Apple!
If we're throwing around knock-off accusations, Android used to look like this until the iPhone came out, and then Android suddenly started looking and behaving a lot more like iOS, right down to the pinch-zoom gestures that originated with the iPhone. For crying out loud, Samsung outright stole Apple's icon artwork and used it in their stores. TechRights, of course, ignores all this. It's no surprise at all that Apple is going to try to hinder competitors' efforts to ride the coattails of its design work. It went through this before with Windows in the 1980s and only lost its court case against Microsoft because of a previous licensing agreement.
Obnoxious Android fanboyism has reached a fever pitch. Android fanboys are now officially more annoying than Apple fanboys. They've adopted this idea that they are freedom fighters and that their tribe is under threat from evil. It's embarrassing and is a resurrection of the worst elements of the desktop Linux movement from 10 years ago.
Exploring the rest of the site, it calls itself "a progressive site which supports software freedom and advocates digital diversity through standardisation." Most of its stories are anti-Microsoft, pro-Linux, and present a one-sided view of tech news that's intended to rile up its readers (not unlike Slashdot, to be honest). It also claims to be against monopolies but says nothing about Google's monopoly in web advertising nor the fact it's using its monopoly revenues to pump a new market with a free product (Android), just like Microsoft did with Windows and Internet Explorer in the 1990s. For some reason, Android advocates
For crying out loud, Techrights' Twitter account is called @boycottnovell. Boycott Novell is associated with Roy Schestowitz, an infamous Usenet troll who spams the advocacy newsgroups with pro-Linux news links and used to astroturf Slashdot with multiple accounts.
If nerds on Tech Rights and Slashdot want to boycott Apple, go ahead. None of them were using Apple products anyway--they are Linux advocacy sites. Apple wouldn't even notice.
Can we get some actual tech news? Or is Slashdot forever lost to its current role of flamboyant baiting for ad views? Ugh.
If that's the goal, just select one of the following story templates:
- Google And Android Are Awesome
- Apple Sucks
- Arbitrary Linux News
- Something Advocating Piracy
- Daily Bitching About Patents
- Ask Slashdot: "It's still 1997 in my house and I've never heard of Google so I'm asking this question"
- Filler Technology Story That Only Gets 50 Comments
Do you know everything about baseball? How about your car engine? Or professional wrestling?
Non-technical users don't learn about computers because they couldn't care less about how they work. That knowledge wouldn't have any effect in their lives that they'd consider valuable. They have their own interests, like you do.
Well, how should we know what price you're willing to spend? If you're just wanting to know what rack systems are available that can support 10 hard drives and how much they cost, can't you just Google that?
How could we answer this? We don't know what location is most convenient for you. We don't know how much physical space you have available in your house or your garage. Are your family's file-serving needs so extreme that you can't even rely on wireless networking?
You're running out of disk space, yet you're encoding audio with a technically inferior format that uses more space for less quality than other formats.
Honestly, based on the rattling off of technical specs, it sounds like this project is more about tinkering and tweaking. There are plenty of pre-built Linux-based media server projects (I'd suggest other operating systems, but I know you'll only accept Linux), but you're not going to accept those solutions because you want to tweak and do it all yourself. For crying out loud, you're running your own family mail server and 8TB file server in an era of Facebook-based communication, web-based email, and cloud storage/streaming services.
I agree that it's fun for some people, but the problem is that people are getting modded down now if they praise anything Apple does or criticize anything related to Google or Android.
You're right, but it's amusing that this submission claims a "major setback" for Apple even though the story is simply that iOS is no longer exclusively used by the DoD. Apple is a consumer electronics company; government use is nice, but it's probably barely even on their radar.
I really wish Slashdot wasn't so partisan and would just report all tech news journalistically. It often has too much of an evangelist slant, which is disappointing because it could harbor one of the most interesting communities in tech reporting if it reported all sides. There are so many partisan news sites now that Slashdot could stand out, but instead it narrows itself into a particular niche and only attracts certain users.
Slashdot is typically very pro-Android; at least, the commenters and moderators are. It makes sense that the editors would post stories that tap into the existing sentiment of their demographic, because Slashdot makes its money from ads, and generating interest also generates page views. Rather than just another Dell business deal, the headline is reworded to make it sound like Android itself is "approved by the Pentagon," and the submission is worded to appear as a victory for open source and a "major setback" for Apple. Slashdot still fetishizes marketshare like it's 1999, when Apple has never treated that as their top priority. Arstechnica's Siracusa worded Steve Jobs's attitude in this way: Apple would rather lose than suck.
This is Slashdot. Everything must be portrayed as a victory for open source and a "major setback" for competitors rather than just another business deal.
If you're advocating for the legalization of an act, you are advocating for the act. Just like if you are advocating for gay marriage, you are a gay marriage advocate, or if you advocate for the legalization of marijuana, you are a marijuana advocate..
He is advocating the legalization of necrophilia. This isn't about some bogus freedom argument. It's about a guy who advocates the legalization of things like child pornography possession (note that you didn't address that part) and how he is therefore a poor spokesperson to get behind.
"Necrophilia would be my second choice for what should be done with my corpse, the first being scientific or medical use. Once my dead body is no longer of any use to me, it may as well be of some use to someone." -- Richard Stallman
You are the product; advertisers are the users. In the realm of web advertising, Google has a huge monopoly and is being investigated for antitrust abuse.
Piracy is not copyright reform; it's complete rejection of the copyright system. Slashdot is clearly pro-piracy in both the number of pro-piracy articles it publishes (particularly about Pirate Bay--the most recent submission conveniently included a link to a mirror of the site) and the upvoted comments that are posted to those stories.
The problem with dismissing the copyright system is that the GPL is a copyright license that depends on copyright law to have any legal power. Ironically, it's also a EULA for developers--yet Slashdot is also anti-EULA. The point being that Slashdot as a company doesn't care about being consistent; it only cares about riling up its readers and generating page views. And because readers are so riled up, they don't notice how inconsistent their own positions are.
All I'm doing is pointing out that Slashdot clearly has an anti-copyright position when it conveniently aids in the acquisition of things that its readers want--music, movies, and software--but is pro-copyright when it conveniently aids in the acquisition of free software as well as benefits an anti-commercial software position. Slashdot clearly has this position based on the consistent rate of pro-piracy/pro-GPL stories combined with the majority of highly-rated comments that are posted to those stories. This article, as well as your own post and its anti-copyright signature, are clear examples.
Slashdot's job is to cater to a specific kind of tech demographic in order to sell ads related to those topics. You are just a product--the customers are its advertisers. This site will always be posting anti-copyright articles, GPL violation articles, pro-Google articles, pro-Linux articles, Star Wars articles, etc. It's not even on the forefront of tech news--nearly every single link is posted on Hacker News and Reddit days before Slashdot publishes it. The so-called "Slashdot effect" also no longer exists as it once did, as the readership has diminished since the rise of user-voted content submission sites. The point being that most of the people still lingering on this site hold the more extreme viewpoints that Slashdot caters to, or else they would have left along with everyone else years ago. Just try legitimately praising Apple or Microsoft and see what happens to your karma. You used to be able to do that; not anymore.
As for your claim that your positions do not conflict, they most certainly do--you are in favor of the abolition of copyright, yet you are also in favor of a copyright license that requires copyright law to have any legal power. Without copyright, the GPL would have no legal power and would be unenforceable.
I thought Slashdot was against copyright. How confusing.
Is this seriously all your argument is based on? "Well, this one thing happened once, so it will always happen this way!" The biggest reason IE is losing marketshare because of mobile devices--Windows PC marketshare isn't exactly dropping.
Nobody has claimed they are "magic," and your stupid "fanbois" term is more proof that Android fanboys are officially the most obnoxious, annoying, bitter fanboys on the planet. You don't even have to hide your trolling anymore on Slashdot to get modded up--you're outright claiming that the iPad sucks and that it's nothing more than fanboyism, marketing, and lack of competition that got it where it is.
Tablets literally existed for over a decade prior and gained no foothold until the iPad came along. You don't even have your history straight.
Seriously, are you 12 years old?
You're just repeating an anecdote, and that's not a valid argument, no matter how many Android fans mod you up.
Again, this is a personal anecdote about "lots of iPad users" you claim have seen your Transformer.
That you wrote this stupid sentence and got modded "+5 Insightful" is proof that Slashdot has been taken over by angry, obnoxious Android fanboys. You're emotional over smartphone operating systems. Please. Go outside.
People said the iPod was going to get its ass kicked for years, and it never happened. The narrative Slashdot has fetishized is that it's Android versus Apple, as if Android is some big company, when it's really Apple vs. Samsung vs. HTC vs. Motorola vs. Acer vs. Asus vs. Coby vs. Sony-Ericsson vs. RIM vs. Archos, etc. Android is just a development platform that multiple manufacturers base their operating systems on. The iPad will remain the #1 selling tablet just like the iPhone is the #1 selling smartphone. It's not Apple versus Android; it's Apple versus all the other individual handset makers.
I can't believe people are non-ironically taking this story at face value. Seriously? Android tablets are now a "Year of the..." meme? Did everybody forget how "Year of Linux on the Desktop" was predicted every year?
As for the "Epic ass kicking," Apple doesn't care about having the most market share. That may be something Microsoft and Google care about, but Apple has always been interested in making industry-leading, high-quality products that make a ton of profit. This is another example of Slashdotters not understanding how business works. Your argument is like claiming McDonald's is better than a five-star restaurant, because after all, McDonald's sells more. To quote Douglas Adams: "10 percent of computer users are Mac users, but remember, we are the top 10 percent."
P.S. Again, I have to voice my astonishment that garbage posts like this get +5 Insightful. It's literally nothing more than a guy claiming that all the iPad users he meets want his Transformer, and that his smartphone operating system is going to kick everybody's ass.
He also wrote in 2003:
"[P]rostitution, adultery, necrophilia, bestiality, possession of child pornography, and even incest and pedophilia” [...] All of these acts should be legal as long as no one is coerced. They are illegal only because of prejudice and narrow-mindedness."
I repeat--he is advocating necrophilia and even possession of child pornography.
Like I said, RMS advocates having sex with a corpse.
Correct, RMS is considering making it legal to have sex with a 12 year old.
Which part of my post was inaccurate?
Objective-C, of course.
Without standards, code written on one platform wouldn't work on another, which was kind of the point of inventing programming languages in the first place, going back to that first cross-platform COBOL demonstration in late 1960.
Shocked that I even have to explain this.
This blog post is just too alarmist for me to take seriously. Most of the other entries on his site seems to also follow the same style--random outbursts, with irritating newlines after every sentence.
Microsoft has been steering their developers away from C and C++ for a long time now. Using Visual Studio for pure native projects is a pain. The pre-release Visual Studio contained in the Windows 8 technical preview won't even allow you to write non-Metro applications (or at least they made it so hard that I couldn't find how to do it).
Fortunately, there are alternatives to Visual Studio even on Windows.
Microsoft has completely embraced native code in Windows 8, and you can write C++ Metro applications.