I'm definitely looking forward to going to hell. Don't get me wrong, I'll be buying Doom 3 the day it comes out.
There's just something ballsy about coming out with a Doom 3-level engine that takes place mostly outdoors on a vast tropical island with no visibility limits. I found myself constantly stopping to check out distant hills with my binoculars and hearing things going on clear across the island with the "sound amplifiers." I once heard a helicopter revving up somewhere, which was just great--the engine played a sound event in the event that you're listening. I headed for the trees before it could spot me over the mountains.
I just got tired of the dark, indoor stuff from Quake 1, 2, and even 3. Doom 3 looks to be even MORE confining. I like being able to see things now, not have them shrouded in darkness for fright effect. Wracks my nerves more than anything.
To be fair, how else would you stop the player from swimming out into the ocean? An invisible wall that stops them? Made more sense that you're more "detectable by their radar" on the open sea, and so it's easy for them to send a chopper to kill your ass.
What a weird criticism. You're annoyed that you can't swim forever into a completely blank sea?
I was blown away by Far Cry. It matched the Doom 3 screenshots I saw, but running NOW. In addition, they had the nerve to set the game in an outdoor tropical environment with no visibility limit.
That game seamlessly goes from hunting mercenaries on an island camp in the jungle to entering a cave and suddenly being in a Doom 3-esque claustrophobic environment shooting at genetic mutations.
As far as all the reports and screenshots have shown, Doom 3 is almost entirely shadowy, indoor environments. Blech. Far Cry was a breath of fresh air.
Congrulations on introducing completely unnecessary propaganda into a probably false article nobody has researched to check its validity.
You even got "gutted our liberties with the Patriot Act" and "let us to invade and torture Iraqis" in there. Somehow, this has something to do with them not playing M-rated video games and running governments.
Microsoft didn't create a groupthink that purported that a single OS for everything was best. It's simply what arose from the market, just like how everyone using Intel PCs was what people wanted. It's easier to target one platform, one architecture, and even have the ability for things to interact with each other because they use the same APIs. It's just common sense that things are made cheaper and faster when you're not coding for 10 different things and instead are coding for 1.
When a production FreeBSD release comes out, you can rest assured it's rock-solid. They generally don't put anything out unless it actually works 99% of the time.
There's a reason Linux and its development is seen as sort of a little joke. The attitude of Linux development seems to be, if you don't understand how it works, hack it in anyway, let it out in the wild and see what happens. I still remember the memory manager hell of the 2.4 series. And with 2.6 suddenly came the transition to an incomplete udev system that only recently became workable to the point that distros didn't need ridiculous device tarballs to work around its shortcomings, though I've seen few actually switch over yet.
This is why Linux is such a moving target, and why it doesn't see widespread support from commercial software developers. Despite its use in several mission-critical situations, it is still very much an amateur effort in other areas. BSD doesn't try to be anything more than it is, and what it does, it does very well--and makes sure it works.
If Gentoo's Portage was ported to FreeBSD, I would switch completely and never look back (I prefer Portage to ports).
Yes, because any comment not 100%, raving anti-M$ zealot is "astroturf moderation."
It's not that people are just rational and neutral and don't think of a fucking computer operating system as a religion (talk about the need to get a life), and so mod things as they see them.
This is about SP2 not checking valid product keys.
What do pirated copies of Windows XP have to do with people caring about security and the FOSS movement? What does any of this have to do with the open-source movement?
No, it's about making sure the dominance of Windows doesn't become a crutch for the rest of the Internet because a large percentage of P2P piracy weenies can't patch some security holes.
I hear constantly how Microsoft is supposedly pro-piracy for dominance purposes, yet never an explanation why they added activation to Windows XP, Windows 2003, Office XP, and Office 2003.
And why did SP1 not install on invalid keys?
Clearly, this is simply a turnaround based on the fact that the keygens out there make it impossible to detect an invalid key, and the need to plug certain holes that have been spreading things is more important than making sure the user has paid for what's running. Their own dominance through piracy is becoming a security clutch, and this is their answer.
I'll say it, even at the risk of burning my karma.
Most (I said most--if it doesn't apply to you, disregard) of the posters here are high schoolers and college students who don't work and have absorbed into the hivemind groupthink that dictates that everything Microsoft does is silly and ridiculous, and everything OSS does is cool and cutting-edge. It's "hip" to your IRC buddies to hate Microsoft and use Mandrake. Then you can say, "Windows sucks because a buggy driver crashed it once...by the way, I'll be back in three hours while I set up my sound card in Linux."
VA Linux-owned Slashdot has a certain interest in posting as many negative Microsoft articles as possible, and seeing as how Taco's excuse for calling his "news" site a hobby is supposed to be an explanation for the outright falsehoods and propaganda that gets posted, it's a convenient way to discredit Microsoft no matter what they do.
Outside of Slashdot, the world is very different, but a lot of people have adopted a worldview that is based entirely on Slashdot headlines. Google Zeitgeist shows Linux at 1%, Windows is still around and Longhorn is definitely coming, but if you come to Slashdot, Linux is somehow taking over Mac usage and Longhorn is "vaporware" with no useful technologies whatsoever. Just one example of many (don't get me started on the pro-piracy bullshit...violating copyright holder rights is "justified," while violating the copyright of the GPL is "evil").
I've seen sigs that stated, "You use Linux if you're anti-Microsoft, you use BSD if you're pro-UNIX." It extends to this website, which is not pro-OSS or pro-Linux, but merely anti-"M$." We're still seeing Clippy and BSOD jokes in 2004. It's like this place is firmly stuck in 1998 and absolutely will not let go. Meanwhile, the late 90s free software golden child that Linux was to the press has subsided, and now people have moved on, expecting actual results and not just cute ideologies that look good in a Wired article. I merely bring all this up because I believe it has an effect on the attitudes of the Slashdot editors and most of Slashdot's devoted readers.
Less and less do I even bother reading the comments of stories anymore...I'm about ready to just skip them entirely. So much uninformed opinion, outright false memes that never stop spreading ("640K is enough for anybody" is just one example) and bullshit that I could start a manure farm...
...and it automatically pops up and won't stop popping up until you tell it how you want updates to be handled.
Now, if the users decides to turn off automatic updates--or even just letting Windows tell you there are new updates--that's not Microsoft's fault.
A lot of the Slashdot articles about worms and holes involves flaws that were already patched at least a month ago. My corporate network and home computer have never, ever been hit with a worm, virus, or trojan. Guess what? I just let Automatic Updates install anything critical. That easy.
Right, Windows 98 copied some unnamed "Amiga prototype" and an Acorn Archimedes.
The Start menu and taskbar are distinctly Windows-alike, as are their Linux implementations. You're putting your head in the sand if you think the reason KDE and GNOME have cloned them isn't because of how popular they became with the high-selling Windows 95. And you're especially deluded if you think the idea for web/filesystem integration isn't coming from Windows 98.
At the least, can't we rip off some saner GUIs, such as MacOS? As long as we're stealing ideas here and pretending it's fine...
You can't tell someone their opinion doesn't matter because they don't contribute code, then ignore that your own opinion is subject to the same requirements. Well, you could, but it would make you look like a hypocrite.
Are you saying it's bad to combat P2P piracy? Slashdotters shouldn't care, right--after all, they don't illegally pirate. Right?
I've been buying from the iTunes store since it came out. There is no valid reason whatsoever to pirate an artists' works on Kazaa and eMule. Slashdotters have yet to legally or morally justify ripping off an artist's stuff.
So Firefox doesn't use Avalon or WinFS yet. Not surprising considering they are not in use except in Microsoft development shops.
Have you been living under a rock? Longhorn betas come out all the time. The WinHEC build is used by major development companies like Adobe and Macromedia to test-run the new technologies with their apps.
I've never seen so much whining and bitching over some guy at Microsoft daring suggest Firefox, an OSS app that 99% of you haven't even contributed code to yourself, support some Windows features for its Windows port! You guys sound ridiculous.
Firefox IS slow, bloated, and buggy. It takes too long to startup, eats memory like a pig, and actually implements all its own widgets. Bloatware, anyone? Apparently it's supposed to be faster than Mozilla, but I see no difference whatsoever. But that's why I switched to Opera once the 7.5 betas started coming out...
"Microsoft steals other people's ideas!" So says the Linux user typing his post in an integrated file/net browser, using a start menu, taskbar, the same print dialogs, a "Control Center," Minimize/Maximize/Close buttons, etc., etc., etc....
The power of all the volunteers in the world, and what do we do? We make a UNIX clone. Then we make a Windows clone on top of it. Nice.
A couple of years after Longhorn comes out, and GNOME/KDE decide to implement their.NET/WinFS/Avalon clones, I'll be grinnin'.
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I'm definitely looking forward to going to hell. Don't get me wrong, I'll be buying Doom 3 the day it comes out.
There's just something ballsy about coming out with a Doom 3-level engine that takes place mostly outdoors on a vast tropical island with no visibility limits. I found myself constantly stopping to check out distant hills with my binoculars and hearing things going on clear across the island with the "sound amplifiers." I once heard a helicopter revving up somewhere, which was just great--the engine played a sound event in the event that you're listening. I headed for the trees before it could spot me over the mountains.
I just got tired of the dark, indoor stuff from Quake 1, 2, and even 3. Doom 3 looks to be even MORE confining. I like being able to see things now, not have them shrouded in darkness for fright effect. Wracks my nerves more than anything.
To be fair, how else would you stop the player from swimming out into the ocean? An invisible wall that stops them? Made more sense that you're more "detectable by their radar" on the open sea, and so it's easy for them to send a chopper to kill your ass.
What a weird criticism. You're annoyed that you can't swim forever into a completely blank sea?
After all, Apache sites never go down when Slashdot links them.
if Worldcraft (or hammer) is going to work on both as well?
John Carmack has stated on several occasions that the editor will be integrated into the engine. You'll be able to play it as you create it.
No idea about Half-Life 2. I actually know very, very little about the Source engine, despite the incomplete code leak so long ago.
I guess you've never seen or played Far Cry.
I was blown away by Far Cry. It matched the Doom 3 screenshots I saw, but running NOW. In addition, they had the nerve to set the game in an outdoor tropical environment with no visibility limit.
That game seamlessly goes from hunting mercenaries on an island camp in the jungle to entering a cave and suddenly being in a Doom 3-esque claustrophobic environment shooting at genetic mutations.
As far as all the reports and screenshots have shown, Doom 3 is almost entirely shadowy, indoor environments. Blech. Far Cry was a breath of fresh air.
Congrulations on introducing completely unnecessary propaganda into a probably false article nobody has researched to check its validity.
You even got "gutted our liberties with the Patriot Act" and "let us to invade and torture Iraqis" in there. Somehow, this has something to do with them not playing M-rated video games and running governments.
Do Some Freaking Reasearch.
They did. That's why it was tossed out. This is how the process works. They check out tips. There's a process for this.
Lemme ask you a question--did you "do some freaking research" to see if this story was actually true?
Microsoft didn't create a groupthink that purported that a single OS for everything was best. It's simply what arose from the market, just like how everyone using Intel PCs was what people wanted. It's easier to target one platform, one architecture, and even have the ability for things to interact with each other because they use the same APIs. It's just common sense that things are made cheaper and faster when you're not coding for 10 different things and instead are coding for 1.
When a production FreeBSD release comes out, you can rest assured it's rock-solid. They generally don't put anything out unless it actually works 99% of the time.
There's a reason Linux and its development is seen as sort of a little joke. The attitude of Linux development seems to be, if you don't understand how it works, hack it in anyway, let it out in the wild and see what happens. I still remember the memory manager hell of the 2.4 series. And with 2.6 suddenly came the transition to an incomplete udev system that only recently became workable to the point that distros didn't need ridiculous device tarballs to work around its shortcomings, though I've seen few actually switch over yet.
This is why Linux is such a moving target, and why it doesn't see widespread support from commercial software developers. Despite its use in several mission-critical situations, it is still very much an amateur effort in other areas. BSD doesn't try to be anything more than it is, and what it does, it does very well--and makes sure it works.
If Gentoo's Portage was ported to FreeBSD, I would switch completely and never look back (I prefer Portage to ports).
When you get right down to it, your argument boils down to "YOU'RE NOT PAYING THE ARTIFICIAL RENT I HAVE IMPOSED UPON YOU! THEIF! THEIF!"
By your logic, the GPL doesn't exist. It's just an "artificial construct we've created!"
Yes, because any comment not 100%, raving anti-M$ zealot is "astroturf moderation."
It's not that people are just rational and neutral and don't think of a fucking computer operating system as a religion (talk about the need to get a life), and so mod things as they see them.
This is about SP2 not checking valid product keys.
What do pirated copies of Windows XP have to do with people caring about security and the FOSS movement? What does any of this have to do with the open-source movement?
Typical Slashbot spin...
No, it's about making sure the dominance of Windows doesn't become a crutch for the rest of the Internet because a large percentage of P2P piracy weenies can't patch some security holes.
Has MS ever lost from piracy?
I hear constantly how Microsoft is supposedly pro-piracy for dominance purposes, yet never an explanation why they added activation to Windows XP, Windows 2003, Office XP, and Office 2003.
And why did SP1 not install on invalid keys?
Clearly, this is simply a turnaround based on the fact that the keygens out there make it impossible to detect an invalid key, and the need to plug certain holes that have been spreading things is more important than making sure the user has paid for what's running. Their own dominance through piracy is becoming a security clutch, and this is their answer.
I'll say it, even at the risk of burning my karma.
Most (I said most--if it doesn't apply to you, disregard) of the posters here are high schoolers and college students who don't work and have absorbed into the hivemind groupthink that dictates that everything Microsoft does is silly and ridiculous, and everything OSS does is cool and cutting-edge. It's "hip" to your IRC buddies to hate Microsoft and use Mandrake. Then you can say, "Windows sucks because a buggy driver crashed it once...by the way, I'll be back in three hours while I set up my sound card in Linux."
VA Linux-owned Slashdot has a certain interest in posting as many negative Microsoft articles as possible, and seeing as how Taco's excuse for calling his "news" site a hobby is supposed to be an explanation for the outright falsehoods and propaganda that gets posted, it's a convenient way to discredit Microsoft no matter what they do.
Outside of Slashdot, the world is very different, but a lot of people have adopted a worldview that is based entirely on Slashdot headlines. Google Zeitgeist shows Linux at 1%, Windows is still around and Longhorn is definitely coming, but if you come to Slashdot, Linux is somehow taking over Mac usage and Longhorn is "vaporware" with no useful technologies whatsoever. Just one example of many (don't get me started on the pro-piracy bullshit...violating copyright holder rights is "justified," while violating the copyright of the GPL is "evil").
I've seen sigs that stated, "You use Linux if you're anti-Microsoft, you use BSD if you're pro-UNIX." It extends to this website, which is not pro-OSS or pro-Linux, but merely anti-"M$." We're still seeing Clippy and BSOD jokes in 2004. It's like this place is firmly stuck in 1998 and absolutely will not let go. Meanwhile, the late 90s free software golden child that Linux was to the press has subsided, and now people have moved on, expecting actual results and not just cute ideologies that look good in a Wired article. I merely bring all this up because I believe it has an effect on the attitudes of the Slashdot editors and most of Slashdot's devoted readers.
Less and less do I even bother reading the comments of stories anymore...I'm about ready to just skip them entirely. So much uninformed opinion, outright false memes that never stop spreading ("640K is enough for anybody" is just one example) and bullshit that I could start a manure farm...
...and it automatically pops up and won't stop popping up until you tell it how you want updates to be handled.
Now, if the users decides to turn off automatic updates--or even just letting Windows tell you there are new updates--that's not Microsoft's fault.
A lot of the Slashdot articles about worms and holes involves flaws that were already patched at least a month ago. My corporate network and home computer have never, ever been hit with a worm, virus, or trojan. Guess what? I just let Automatic Updates install anything critical. That easy.
Right, Windows 98 copied some unnamed "Amiga prototype" and an Acorn Archimedes.
The Start menu and taskbar are distinctly Windows-alike, as are their Linux implementations. You're putting your head in the sand if you think the reason KDE and GNOME have cloned them isn't because of how popular they became with the high-selling Windows 95. And you're especially deluded if you think the idea for web/filesystem integration isn't coming from Windows 98.
At the least, can't we rip off some saner GUIs, such as MacOS? As long as we're stealing ideas here and pretending it's fine...
And you "might of" taken some English classes. ;)
You can't tell someone their opinion doesn't matter because they don't contribute code, then ignore that your own opinion is subject to the same requirements. Well, you could, but it would make you look like a hypocrite.
And you are just as bad yourself by claiming that all readers of Slashdot have a fanatical hate towards Microsoft.
Cite where I said "all readers of Slashdot have a fanatical hate towards Microsoft."
Oh, that's right, I didn't. Next.
Are you saying it's bad to combat P2P piracy? Slashdotters shouldn't care, right--after all, they don't illegally pirate. Right?
I've been buying from the iTunes store since it came out. There is no valid reason whatsoever to pirate an artists' works on Kazaa and eMule. Slashdotters have yet to legally or morally justify ripping off an artist's stuff.
So Firefox doesn't use Avalon or WinFS yet. Not surprising considering they are not in use except in Microsoft development shops.
Have you been living under a rock? Longhorn betas come out all the time. The WinHEC build is used by major development companies like Adobe and Macromedia to test-run the new technologies with their apps.
I've never seen so much whining and bitching over some guy at Microsoft daring suggest Firefox, an OSS app that 99% of you haven't even contributed code to yourself, support some Windows features for its Windows port! You guys sound ridiculous.
Firefox IS slow, bloated, and buggy. It takes too long to startup, eats memory like a pig, and actually implements all its own widgets. Bloatware, anyone? Apparently it's supposed to be faster than Mozilla, but I see no difference whatsoever. But that's why I switched to Opera once the 7.5 betas started coming out...
"Microsoft steals other people's ideas!" So says the Linux user typing his post in an integrated file/net browser, using a start menu, taskbar, the same print dialogs, a "Control Center," Minimize/Maximize/Close buttons, etc., etc., etc....
.NET/WinFS/Avalon clones, I'll be grinnin'.
The power of all the volunteers in the world, and what do we do? We make a UNIX clone. Then we make a Windows clone on top of it. Nice.
A couple of years after Longhorn comes out, and GNOME/KDE decide to implement their
Can anyone explain to me why a web browser would care about filesystems?
Good question--care to ask the KDE team?