Sure, but you can't get a gaming PC with a nice case, quiet fans, a modern graphics card, a wireless controller, a Blu-Ray player, and Windows for $400. That's part of the reason why everyone doesn't "just buy a PC". People should buy a PC if they like the PC trade-offs versus the consoles. If they prefer the console trade-offs, they should buy a console.
Personally, I want to just put in a game and play it. I don't want to tweak settings.
If I didn't already have far more than enough games, I might also be tempted to buy a gaming PC.
- too expensive - it's no fun using keyboard and mouse on the sofa - PCs have noisy fans and ugly cases - you can't play Sony's exclusive games - you also can't play other console-only games like Red Dead - installing drivers and OS updates sucks - PCs need to be replaced with a new model every 3-4 years. Game console cycles last 5-7 years. - windows 8
So we should buy a super expensive product (that doesn't even actually exist) to replace a cheap readily available product. Because we'll save a few dollars a year in electricity.
Why? Are we buying our way into environmentalist heaven?
And your cunning plan is to give a centralized government control of (more or less) everything. Because no wealthy person could ever find a way to exploit that.
Yes, slashdotters are all about supporting government abuses. If you think statements like that are a basis for "thinking and rationality," no wonder you can't grasp what's going on here.
And yet, Slashdotters continue to support government abuses and continue to vote for and support increased power for government and increased government control of everyone's life.
This is unfortunately correct. But when those evil Libertarians prey on your prejudices and get elected, the endgame in their master plan is... to leave you alone.
And I obviously have no problem with that. But does it really have to completely preclude any thinking or rationality?
Why do Slashdotters keep supporting government abuses? When will they decide that their love of free stuff and their prejudice against the greedy corporatists and the hated religionists doesn't justify the toll of government-caused death and destruction? Can we stop it sometime? Please?
We must fight these mad wealthy bogeymen! That's why everyone needs to write me a $5000 check right now! No time to think about it! They'll eat you children and steal your reproductive organs if you wait one more second. Write a check before it's too late!
Do these evil wealthy madmen have a particular skin color you don't like? Or are they part of one of the bad religions? Or is this particular prejudice based on something else?
Because who needs thinking and reasoning and reading and understanding? You want to bash someone for "libertarian-style flamebait" and it's bashin time!!!
No one can be trusted to fix anything for himself. Therefore we should give someone vast government power. Because giving someone vast government power somehow magically turns him into a saint. You couldn't trust him before. Now he has lots and lots of power over you. Now we can trust him. Nothing can possibly go wrong. We are wise. See how we care about fixing problems?
Meanwhile, a socialist revolution would be (for now) deeply suspicious of any prosecution that looked like it could be oppressing the workers for the benefit of big capital.
But, since a vast majority of socialists are basically fools who can be convinced of anything that confirms their personal prejudices, they'll continue to empower the government and continue to be surprised when "big capital" uses this power against them over and over and over again. The resulting anger just reinforces the prejudices, making them even easier to fool.
Or we could finally learn that concentrating power in the hands of government overlords isn't helping.
And the "ridiculous extreme" is just that. It has the support of very, very few people.
So why bring it up? Are you arguing that the government needs to be able to kill an unlimited number of people whenever it wants because otherwise we can't have a fire department to put out fires? Or can we be more thoughtful than that?
The government needs (in my opinion) enough power to fix things, but not enough to screw things up.
Enough power to "fix" things is always going to be a lot more than enough power to screw things up.
There's always something that needs to be "fixed" when someone wants more power. He'll always tell you you can trust him too. Sometimes you can. You can't trust all of his successors.
Cases like the Aaron Swartz prosecution are a direct result of the huge, intrusive, abusive government we have. Unfortunately most Slashdotters seem to support this government and want to make it even larger and more involved in everyone's daily lives. Will Slashdot learn anything from Aaron Swartz's death? Or are we still just a few more government programs away from living in a utopia -- this time for sure?
The phrase "documented ties to" sounds like guilt by association. How about making a specific allegation?
If this was the only instance of anti-Huawei FUD, you would have a point. But I've been seeing it for years, related to cellphone base stations and all manner of networking equipment for civilian applications. The Heritage Foundation wrote a scare report years ago ( http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2008/02/trojan-dragon-chinas-cyber-threat ) for some reason.
This effort is being led by someone, for a specific reason. I'm just wondering Who? and Why?
This FUD is just weird. Why is there a FUD campaign being waged against Huawei? And who is behind it? And what's Slashdot's motive for getting involved?
(Maybe Huawei is doing exactly what the FUDsters fear, BTW. I have no idea. I just think the FUD campaign is curious.)
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Sure, but you can't get a gaming PC with a nice case, quiet fans, a modern graphics card, a wireless controller, a Blu-Ray player, and Windows for $400. That's part of the reason why everyone doesn't "just buy a PC". People should buy a PC if they like the PC trade-offs versus the consoles. If they prefer the console trade-offs, they should buy a console.
Personally, I want to just put in a game and play it. I don't want to tweak settings.
If I didn't already have far more than enough games, I might also be tempted to buy a gaming PC.
Because
- too expensive
- it's no fun using keyboard and mouse on the sofa
- PCs have noisy fans and ugly cases
- you can't play Sony's exclusive games
- you also can't play other console-only games like Red Dead
- installing drivers and OS updates sucks
- PCs need to be replaced with a new model every 3-4 years. Game console cycles last 5-7 years.
- windows 8
So we should buy a super expensive product (that doesn't even actually exist) to replace a cheap readily available product. Because we'll save a few dollars a year in electricity.
Why? Are we buying our way into environmentalist heaven?
Also flavor. Why does this food have flavor? I can get the same nutrition from this flavorless nutrient paste! Fie on your spices and seasonings! Fie!
Because you're stupid and you'll willingly trade money without receiving a benefit in return.
Not like us. We are The Good People. We are The Smart People. We are here to Help!
And your cunning plan is to give a centralized government control of (more or less) everything. Because no wealthy person could ever find a way to exploit that.
Yes, slashdotters are all about supporting government abuses. If you think statements like that are a basis for "thinking and rationality," no wonder you can't grasp what's going on here.
And yet, Slashdotters continue to support government abuses and continue to vote for and support increased power for government and increased government control of everyone's life.
The other "-isms" claimed the same thing.
No. They don't.
Not without his government, no.
And that has been my whole point all along: less government power, more individual autonomy.
This is unfortunately correct. But when those evil Libertarians prey on your prejudices and get elected, the endgame in their master plan is ... to leave you alone.
And I obviously have no problem with that. But does it really have to completely preclude any thinking or rationality?
Why do Slashdotters keep supporting government abuses? When will they decide that their love of free stuff and their prejudice against the greedy corporatists and the hated religionists doesn't justify the toll of government-caused death and destruction? Can we stop it sometime? Please?
When power is in the hands of individuals, it isn't concentrated.
We must fight these mad wealthy bogeymen! That's why everyone needs to write me a $5000 check right now! No time to think about it! They'll eat you children and steal your reproductive organs if you wait one more second. Write a check before it's too late!
Do these evil wealthy madmen have a particular skin color you don't like? Or are they part of one of the bad religions? Or is this particular prejudice based on something else?
Because who needs thinking and reasoning and reading and understanding? You want to bash someone for "libertarian-style flamebait" and it's bashin time!!!
You argument is an old one:
No one can be trusted to fix anything for himself. Therefore we should give someone vast government power. Because giving someone vast government power somehow magically turns him into a saint. You couldn't trust him before. Now he has lots and lots of power over you. Now we can trust him. Nothing can possibly go wrong. We are wise. See how we care about fixing problems?
Meanwhile, a socialist revolution would be (for now) deeply suspicious of any prosecution that looked like it could be oppressing the workers for the benefit of big capital.
But, since a vast majority of socialists are basically fools who can be convinced of anything that confirms their personal prejudices, they'll continue to empower the government and continue to be surprised when "big capital" uses this power against them over and over and over again. The resulting anger just reinforces the prejudices, making them even easier to fool.
Or we could finally learn that concentrating power in the hands of government overlords isn't helping.
They should fix it themselves. It's one of the richest areas of the country. They need poor people in Michigan to pay for their repairs?
For instance, you should check out any post that has to do with gun control, s/w piracy or net neutrality.
So creating a new neutrality police to harass and prosecute neutrality criminals is less intrusive government now?
And the "ridiculous extreme" is just that. It has the support of very, very few people.
So why bring it up? Are you arguing that the government needs to be able to kill an unlimited number of people whenever it wants because otherwise we can't have a fire department to put out fires? Or can we be more thoughtful than that?
Maybe some of us can learn something this time.
The government needs (in my opinion) enough power to fix things, but not enough to screw things up.
Enough power to "fix" things is always going to be a lot more than enough power to screw things up.
There's always something that needs to be "fixed" when someone wants more power. He'll always tell you you can trust him too. Sometimes you can. You can't trust all of his successors.
A better answer: fix it yourself.
Libertarian Logic: I have chronic pain in my knee. Time to get out the bone saw and cut off my leg!
The government probably killed another basically good person during the time it took you to write that. Congrats.
On the other hand, he probably wasn't a geek and probably didn't invent anything cool when he was a kid. So who cares, right?
Glenn Reynolds just posted his essay Due Process when Everything is a Crime relating in part to the Aaron Swartz case.
Cases like the Aaron Swartz prosecution are a direct result of the huge, intrusive, abusive government we have. Unfortunately most Slashdotters seem to support this government and want to make it even larger and more involved in everyone's daily lives. Will Slashdot learn anything from Aaron Swartz's death? Or are we still just a few more government programs away from living in a utopia -- this time for sure?
The phrase "documented ties to" sounds like guilt by association. How about making a specific allegation?
If this was the only instance of anti-Huawei FUD, you would have a point. But I've been seeing it for years, related to cellphone base stations and all manner of networking equipment for civilian applications. The Heritage Foundation wrote a scare report years ago ( http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2008/02/trojan-dragon-chinas-cyber-threat ) for some reason.
This effort is being led by someone, for a specific reason. I'm just wondering Who? and Why?
This FUD is just weird. Why is there a FUD campaign being waged against Huawei? And who is behind it? And what's Slashdot's motive for getting involved?
(Maybe Huawei is doing exactly what the FUDsters fear, BTW. I have no idea. I just think the FUD campaign is curious.)