Good thing we have such awesome government schools. Without the top notch critical thinking skills these havens of learning provide, our population might be susceptible to these shallow disinformation campaigns.
But who hasn't marveled at the near genius of the average government school student? Achievement, discernment, and wisdom is the true hallmark of a government school education.
If you actually look at something like the IPCC report, you'll see that the predictions are of ranges with confidence levels.
They predict different temperature outcomes every report.
You'll also notice that it's virtually certain that bad things will happen.
By running the results of one questionable model into other, even more questionable models.
You're claiming that going on the best available information is tantamount to taking it on faith. I'd say it requires more blind faith to deny the science.
I disagree with both of those characterizations. There's no metric for "best available information". And I don't "deny the science", it just appears to be exaggerated and dramatized, sometimes wildly. This is a phenomenon that's been discussed: scientific papers (in any field) with dramatic results get published and noticed, papers with boring results don't, despite the fact that the boring results are less likely to be proven wrong.
The actual facts are that cities aren't under ocean water and the the weather is not very interesting. Most things in the world are a lot better than they were 50 years ago.
...the fate of the planet that we all live on is the thing we're talking about...
It will be ok. Always is. It doesn't need you to save it. Sorry. You're still important to your friends and family even though you're not the hero savior of the planet.
Apparently 97% climate scientists saying that humans are causing climate change
No 97% agree on any specific temperature or timeframe. I "believe" in it. I don't believe the dramatic predictions and all the storytelling.
A lot of the most dramatic predictions have already been proven wrong when the time came and the thing they predicted didn't happen.
Don't you have a car? What do you buy to make it go, who sells it to you and which side of the "debate" are they on?
Gasoline makes a car go. What's your point? It's not a philosophy. I don't buy it because I believe in someone's worldview, I buy it because it beats walking.
The groupthink is so strong that you guys can't even make coherent arguments.
Others choose not to, based on faith, or because they have studied the models in detail ?
It's "a leap of faith" not an accident of faith.
Not believing people who are trying to sell you something is a basic survival skill. It doesn't require belief in some sort of alternative.
In other words, it can be just "no". It doesn't have to be "no, because I have faith the future will be specifically X instead of the specific Y future you have predicted".
Yes, exactly. It might work better for AI because AI is an emerging field and everyone doesn't have a whole book of preconceptions on what qualifies you for working on it.
Read up on AI. Build some AI stuff. Write a resume that says you built some AI stuff and that you're otherwise good at programming and computer tasks. Apply for jobs. Be willing to go where the jobs are and do the work needed. Be able to explain why someone should hire you for AI stuff. Repeat until hired.
That's the outline of a plan for you. Someone can probably refine it. Works for non-AI stuff too.
Lots of other tech stocks also got hit after big runups this year. Unless there's a war, it should just be a pause though.
We have low unemployment and rising wages. Cloud computing is still ramping up. Semiconductor companies can look forward to VR and AR, autonomous driving, 5G, AI, industrial automation, defense projects, video gaming, and IoT for above-GDP growth opportunities over the next 2-5 years and beyond. Network buildouts in the US for 5G, in China for better connectivity outside major cities, and eventually in India will be the future story for communication equipment makers.
Things are still running along nicely, but even the strongest runners need to take a rest sometimes.
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So religion is bad and nothing else matters at all?
Good thing we have such awesome government schools. Without the top notch critical thinking skills these havens of learning provide, our population might be susceptible to these shallow disinformation campaigns.
But who hasn't marveled at the near genius of the average government school student? Achievement, discernment, and wisdom is the true hallmark of a government school education.
Fake news doesn't have a chance.
If you actually look at something like the IPCC report, you'll see that the predictions are of ranges with confidence levels.
They predict different temperature outcomes every report.
You'll also notice that it's virtually certain that bad things will happen.
By running the results of one questionable model into other, even more questionable models.
You're claiming that going on the best available information is tantamount to taking it on faith. I'd say it requires more blind faith to deny the science.
I disagree with both of those characterizations. There's no metric for "best available information". And I don't "deny the science", it just appears to be exaggerated and dramatized, sometimes wildly. This is a phenomenon that's been discussed: scientific papers (in any field) with dramatic results get published and noticed, papers with boring results don't, despite the fact that the boring results are less likely to be proven wrong.
The actual facts are that cities aren't under ocean water and the the weather is not very interesting. Most things in the world are a lot better than they were 50 years ago.
Exaggeration factor.
Guess which one of those statements most of us here think is true about you.
Am I excommunicated from the science bandwagon? I sure hope not.
That's not how climate models work.
...the fate of the planet that we all live on is the thing we're talking about...
It will be ok. Always is. It doesn't need you to save it. Sorry. You're still important to your friends and family even though you're not the hero savior of the planet.
Apparently 97% climate scientists saying that humans are causing climate change
No 97% agree on any specific temperature or timeframe. I "believe" in it. I don't believe the dramatic predictions and all the storytelling.
A lot of the most dramatic predictions have already been proven wrong when the time came and the thing they predicted didn't happen.
This sort of thinking means that anything that you can't understand must be dismissed
Predictions of the distant future are like that. There should be a super high bar for believing them. Because they tend to be wrong.
Anyone who has spent their lives studying something highly complicated is disallowed
No, you go ahead and believe their predictions if you want.
Especially when you don't have the skills to debunk their work.
No need to "debunk" predictions of the future. They either come true or not.
And *especially* when the fate of humanity is at stake.
The only thing less believable than a prediction of the distant future is a dramatic prediction of the distant future.
I don't believe you can fit 10,000 people and an elephant in your bedroom no matter what your computer model say .
You don't have to conclusively disprove something in order to not believe it.
Don't you have a car? What do you buy to make it go, who sells it to you and which side of the "debate" are they on?
Gasoline makes a car go. What's your point? It's not a philosophy. I don't buy it because I believe in someone's worldview, I buy it because it beats walking.
The groupthink is so strong that you guys can't even make coherent arguments.
No. I don't know if you guys are trolling or what. If you're not, your silly exaggerations are counterproductive.
You could just look at the temperature trend for the last 50 years.
And then what? Because if the answer isn't "buy into a specific predicted future scenario", then why am I looking?
There are plenty of people trying to sell the idea that AGW isn't happening.
But they don't ask or demand any money from me. Nor are they telling me I must live my life according to their faith's proscriptions.
And even with that, I don't really believe them either.
It's breathtaking ignorance
I'm ignorant of exactly how climate models work. So are you.
... know better than every other ...
I'm bad at groupthink.
...the entire scientific field.
And not super interested in appeals to authority.
You're welcome to believe whatever stories you want though.
Are you asking me? Either way, I don't care about your silly, jokey nonsense.
Others choose not to, based on faith, or because they have studied the models in detail ?
It's "a leap of faith" not an accident of faith.
Not believing people who are trying to sell you something is a basic survival skill. It doesn't require belief in some sort of alternative.
In other words, it can be just "no". It doesn't have to be "no, because I have faith the future will be specifically X instead of the specific Y future you have predicted".
Yes, exactly. It might work better for AI because AI is an emerging field and everyone doesn't have a whole book of preconceptions on what qualifies you for working on it.
Read up on AI.
Build some AI stuff.
Write a resume that says you built some AI stuff and that you're otherwise good at programming and computer tasks.
Apply for jobs. Be willing to go where the jobs are and do the work needed.
Be able to explain why someone should hire you for AI stuff.
Repeat until hired.
That's the outline of a plan for you. Someone can probably refine it. Works for non-AI stuff too.
I just don't understand how an otherwise developed nation still has trouble with the very simple fact of climate change.
Please explain in detail how climate models work and why we can be certain their predictions will come true.
In fact, you don't know. You're taking it on faith. Others choose not to.
No, just an ordinary religion.
I honestly have no idea why anyone was ever in favor of the Paris agreement.
It's a religion.
Versus what? Fewer electronic products in the future? Video games and internet media lose out to puppet shows and radio dramas?
Lots of other tech stocks also got hit after big runups this year. Unless there's a war, it should just be a pause though.
We have low unemployment and rising wages. Cloud computing is still ramping up. Semiconductor companies can look forward to VR and AR, autonomous driving, 5G, AI, industrial automation, defense projects, video gaming, and IoT for above-GDP growth opportunities over the next 2-5 years and beyond. Network buildouts in the US for 5G, in China for better connectivity outside major cities, and eventually in India will be the future story for communication equipment makers.
Things are still running along nicely, but even the strongest runners need to take a rest sometimes.